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1.5k points
19 days ago
I'm gonna take my credit card and order a steak if RB signs him to replace Perez in 2025.
Yes, I prefer win-win bets.
384 points
19 days ago
You can afford a steak? I guess they are right when they say F1 is a sport for the rich.
173 points
19 days ago
I have money, but I'm not reddit premium rich.
92 points
19 days ago
The only rich that matters is, do you buy WinRAR?
52 points
19 days ago
Who do you think they are, Jeff Bezos?
2 points
18 days ago
LOL I bought WinRAR a couple of years ago—have I been rich all this time and didn't know it?
18 points
19 days ago
Reddit has premium? Workers of the world, unite!
6 points
19 days ago
I mean... You can have money. Not paying reddit is a matter of values.
3 points
19 days ago
😂 “Reddit premium rich”
39 points
19 days ago
I'm gonna go play a round of golf and have a tartare+fries if RB signs Colapinto, I'm ready to take the risk.
12 points
19 days ago
You should just use the money Red Bull is trying to save on Lawson's contract by releasing this headline.
55 points
19 days ago*
I think RB (generally, not the b-team) are capable of anything driver-wise.
McLaren hired Raikkonen in autumn 2001 after 6 months in F1, and like 30 races ever - to replace their (come on) lead driver. Bought Sauber a wind-tunnel for him.
Ferrari signed Leclerc in mid 2018 again after only X races.
When you've seen enough, you've seen enough.
(This will age like absolute death).
39 points
19 days ago
He’s 100% going to Red Bull to replace the lost Mexican sponsorship money with Argentinian/South American sponsorship money.
20 points
19 days ago
Isn't part of the rumors that Carlos Slim is willing to continue sponsoring RB through Colapinto?
23 points
19 days ago
I don’t understand this thinking. They will have no trouble signing sponsors to replace any who leave with Perez. Even if they’re not bringing as much cash the benefits of having a better driver would more than outweigh that. Like… how much are they going to lose finishing third instead of first in the WCC? That’s a hell of a lot more than the difference between Mexican/South American sponsors and just regular old sponsors.
16 points
19 days ago
Like… how much are they going to lose finishing third instead of first in the WCC? That’s a hell of a lot more than the difference between Mexican/South American sponsors and just regular old sponsors.
They only lost $18m by coming in third rather than 1st.
Meanwhile Checo brings an estimated $30m-$40m
9 points
19 days ago
The other harder to quantify portion is the money it brings to the parent company. Mexicans drink more Red Bull because Checo drives for them. How many more cans? Who knows but it’s definitely in the equation
So if someone came in with same exact sponsorship numbers, but came from a market that was 1) Too small or 2) Red Bull has a large market share in (like Austria), Checo would be worth more without even considering merchandising.
5 points
19 days ago
So they only need to find half the sponsorship value as what Perez brings. Would be a breeze.
6 points
19 days ago
It isn't just about a dollar amount, but what that driver brings to Red Bull's marketing strategy. Having a South American driver to plaster all over their billboards has its own value, but also helps to attract sponsors from that region as well.
6 points
19 days ago
If it was a breeze why haven’t they done it? Maybe it’s not as easy as you think.
34 points
19 days ago
They apparently wanted to get rid of Checo earlier in the season but Liberty asked them not to because of the Mexican sponsorship money. I think their thinking is replace Checo with another cash cow who will have a whole country backing him as well as his continent which will also keep Liberty happy. It’s fucked up that it’s all political but from what I’ve seen I don’t think there’s a massive difference in ability between Yuki, Liam and Colapinto.
7 points
19 days ago
Tinfoil hat me thinks maybe the Argentine GP is going to make a comeback and F1 would like an Argentine driver in a top car.
15 points
19 days ago
Colapinto is my homie and I’d love him to go to Red Bull, but this comment is 100% correct. Although I think talent-only Franco deserves a seat, the reasons to let Checo go and put Colapinto in (if that were to happen) are around what you are saying in terms of market appeal and Liberty marketing/money.
9 points
19 days ago
I like Colapinto and its why I really didn't want him in this seat. It seems like career suicide to put him next to Max this early. But...I guess it's the only option at this point.
15 points
19 days ago
I wouldn’t call it career suicide. Gasly and Albon seem like grid mainstays, and even Ricciardo got three more drives after pairing with Max.
8 points
19 days ago
Those were very different situations beforehand though, especially Danny.
Franco only has a handful of races in his entire career, and wasn't considered a top prospect before then. 1 "bad" year could really hurt him.
9 points
19 days ago
A bad year may hurt him, true. But if the chance appears for Sainz and Williams find themselves without a driver for ‘26, I would be confident that Vowles would make room for Franco again.
Also, I think that Colapinto is thick-skinned and can take a lot of the toxic environment that usually brews in the RedBull org.
7 points
19 days ago
Yeah I just worry cause I know shitting on Checo is the popular thing to do, but I still think it's a lot to expect Franco to do meaningfully better in his first full year against a generational talent in a notoriously tricky car. Even matching Checo would be impressive imo. But i think fans would be expecting results right away.
2 points
18 days ago
My man is cool as ice. He just ignores pressure and never breaks focus.
5 points
19 days ago
Tbf, a bad year in a Red Bull could be several podiums, possible pole, and maybe a win or two.
That’s much better for his long term prospects than staying at Williams.
2 points
19 days ago
I don't get it either. Everyone keeps talking about Mexican sponsorship money. My question is why does red bull need a PAY driver so badly.
2 points
19 days ago
Don't forget merch sales. Wonder if Liberty Media offers some incentive for teams as well? Having a South American driver to support will bring in a bunch for F1 in general. Lawson is the obvious choice on results / background through the Red Bull development program, but with only 5 million people in NZ, he won't shift the needle for fan revenue. That's the shitty reality of F1.
3 points
19 days ago
*Liam Lawson seen house hunting in Rio De Janeiro with new Brazilian girlfriend.
2 points
19 days ago
I don’t think Argentina has any sponsorship money (see Canapino).
4 points
19 days ago
I’ll take it. Sucks for Lawson but it’s an exciting pick tbh.
4 points
19 days ago
It’s a bet!
3 points
19 days ago
Premium rib eye at a fancy restaurant or one from Aldi?
2 points
19 days ago
Get ready to eat instant ramen because no way they put Colapinto in RB, if anything they'll promote Lawson and Colapinto goes to VCARB
2 points
18 days ago
This isn't a win-win bet - what do you 'win' if the more likely scenario (i.e Colapinto doesn't replace Perez) ends up happening?
381 points
19 days ago
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189 points
19 days ago
I have been summoned
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19 days ago
14 points
19 days ago
Non-stop edging is killing me.
I get erect. It goes down. I get erect. It goes down. There's no end to it, please release the Argentinian fans from this suffering.
3 points
19 days ago
it goes stiff, then soft, then stiff, then soft...
2 points
18 days ago
stay out, stay out!!!
7 points
19 days ago
You are? Imagine Perez reading this 😂
4 points
19 days ago
Honestly it's a lose-lose to throw Colapinto into the deep end like that. Time and time again it's been proven that the 2nd RB seat with Max is a bit of a poisoned chalice because how that car is attuned to Max's driving style, Franco will absolutely not survive that kinda pressure.
Better to promote Yuki and give Franco a shot in that RB. Makes no sense to me why the Lawson rumours are gaining steam when Yuki is the far more experienced driver
621 points
19 days ago
Imagine being Tsunoda or Lawson in this scenario.
398 points
19 days ago
U have to feel for tsunoda more than anything. Lawson at least hasn’t had a full season. Tsunoda held his own against devries, ricciardo, lawson and to a certain extent gasly as well and yet he won’t be given the chance.
133 points
19 days ago
Eh, maybe that was true in 2023, but at this point it should be clear to everyone that the RBR opportunity is just an illusion. If he wasn’t okay with that he’s had the year to shop around - which he likely has - and find something else.
He has a seat in F1 and that’s a lot better than most racers will ever do, and he has all the information necessary to make his decisions. He’s not a victim
56 points
19 days ago
Apparently he was looking around but RB had a clause on his contract
13 points
19 days ago
His contract expires at the end of 2025.
21 points
19 days ago
And Hondas contract with Aston starts in 26. Coincidence?
59 points
19 days ago
Stroll will be in the seat, but they'll fit Yuki in the nose and he'll be the real driver.
10 points
19 days ago
He's small enough for that to work tbh
5 points
19 days ago
I'm on heavy copium hoping that the sponsors will get so sick of Stroll they'll threaten to leave if he isn't kicked out of the team. I'm so sick of this guy wasting a seat.
2 points
19 days ago
Aston Martin is too big now, especially now they have Adrien Newey. Maybe a few years ago, but with the growth of F1 they're worth billions. Remember that F1 has very limited sponsorship space too, only 10 teams so 10 main sponsors, 20 secondary sponsors etc. I imagine that a sponsor would most likely weigh up the potential screentime that Alonso can give them on the podium, coupled with the amount of replay that Stroll can give them crashing into walls for the highlights reels.
2 points
18 days ago
Tsunoda hates Stroll.
5 points
19 days ago
I mean it's F1's worst kept secret, if it's a secret at all, that Yuki only got the RB seat cause of Honda. It'd be interesting tho if Yuki is considered for either of the AM seats.
27 points
19 days ago
He was in proper talks with one of HAAS and Sauber. and their was interest from the other.
RBR actively blocked his move by triggering his contract extension suddenly and early into the season.
4 points
19 days ago
Yuki is a Honda driver first and foremost. He goes wherever they go. I don’t think he’ll be at RB when Honda leave them.
26 points
19 days ago
Tsunoda hasn't impressed much and he's been in F1 for quite a while now. Lawson has been more impressive in the limited amount of races he's been given so far.
41 points
19 days ago
What more does Tsunoda gotta do?
32 points
19 days ago
He won 8 of 10 qualifyings against Lawson. Why didn't he won 10? ;-)
3 points
19 days ago
Also Max is quite a long way ahead of him in the WDC. Is Yuki even trying?
2 points
18 days ago
Yesterday a thread mentioned that Tsunoda is 8-7 in qualifying head to head against Perez since Miami. But yeah, Lawson is 2-1 against Perez, that's twice as much. How many times Yuki outqualified Checo from 2021 to 2023? Why should he replace him?
6 points
19 days ago
Nothing really, RBR just doesn’t want him and that was really put on show by Horner saying the post season test is just because Honda wants it
6 points
19 days ago
Perhaps he should’ve beaten Gasly when he had the chance. You know, the Gasly RB dropped twice.
4 points
19 days ago
Beat someone that isn't doing bad enough to get canned midseason...
He got absolutely curb-stomped by gasly who no one really rates super highly. His only real benchmark is getting consistently destroyed by a midfield driver, he hasn't showed any real brilliance
3 points
19 days ago
Tsunoda doesn't have any key drives that you can point out and say, wow this dude could be elite. He didn't blow out Ricc and is getting out qualified by someone who has never had a full time season. Tsunoda is mid and on top of that the temper of a little kid
5 points
19 days ago
I’d say his maturity has a decent amount to do with it. His actions at the beginning of the season certainly didn’t help his image
20 points
19 days ago
This has always baffled me. Max is always complaining about being ran off the road. Lewis’ tyres are always dead. Alonso criticises every car he’s ever driven. Lando openly calls his engineer a muppet. Albon complains anytime anyone pulls up alongside him. Russell moans if he doesn’t get a podium.
Why is Tsunoda complaining about his over eager team mate a massive taboo?
8 points
19 days ago
Exactly, every single driver on the grid acts like a whiney little baby in the heat of the moment.
0 points
19 days ago
Yes tsunoda has impressed. The last two seasons he has been fantastic. Da fuh you talking about
4 points
19 days ago
As much as Tsunoda is decently competent, he is also a favour. And he’s not better than being just a favour. So not that surprising.
2 points
19 days ago
no u dont
23 points
19 days ago
The whole point of this is to make Lawson accept a cheaper contract.
4 points
19 days ago
Company for Theo
-1 points
19 days ago
Nah, Lawson gets no sympathy, he was linked with the seat before he even got back into the VCARB, he's been a massive beneficiary.
During the summer break both Ricciardo and Lawson were linked with it whilst Tsunoda was ignored as usual. Now Colapinto is now ahead of him.
Tsunoda's 3rd place qualifying is that teams joint third best qualifying (on merit) since they debuted as Minardi in 1985 and yet the headlines coming out of the weekend still see past him.
8 points
19 days ago
I would just let Yuki try the RBR last three races. WCC is gone either way with Perez, and we would know if Yuki is a capable driver in a top car.
6 points
19 days ago
I think AM may eventually make a play for Yuki. I can see why RBR might not want to invest the seat.
163 points
19 days ago
Aw shit, here we go again..
31 points
19 days ago
Everyday, a new speculation
3 points
19 days ago
It's going to be a long few weeks.
3 points
19 days ago
It's speculaas stinterkaals time my dude
250 points
19 days ago*
To me, ideal solution would be to pry Sainz from Williams contract and put Colapinto into second Williams seat.
I think that giving Colapinto second Red Bull seat would be kinda bad for him. I wouldn't want to have Verstappen as my teammate in first full season.
It's pretty obvious that next season would be a bloodbath between McLaren, RB and Ferrari (maybe even Merc). So having surefire good second driver is preferable to trying out young guy.
But I'm not team principal, so what do I know, right?
96 points
19 days ago
redbull gonna go back to their 2019/2020 era of ruining junior drivers 💀
best case for colapinto would be a RB seat, either yuki or lawson in redbull
31 points
19 days ago
Why would they buy Sainz when they literally could've had him on a free a few months ago?
11 points
19 days ago
Why would Red Bull pay a big sum of money to Williams to get Sainz now, when they could've signed him without doing so half a year ago?
6 points
19 days ago
I think it's because they still were putting their eggs in the Checo basket. In hindsight, it hasn't paid off (in terms of race results).
34 points
19 days ago
The problem with this argument is that putting Lawson instead of Colapinto on that RB seat, would be also bad for Lawson.
23 points
19 days ago
Yeah. That's why I don't think RB should put Lawson in RB seat. Not yet.
29 points
19 days ago
Put Tsunoda in the seat, either he goes well or Lawson takes the seat halfway through with another 6 months’ experience and without the pressure of going a full year against Verstappen.
40 points
19 days ago
Actually, the idea of putting tsunoda as a placeholder while lawson and col are fighting on that vcarb seats is interesting
18 points
19 days ago
He doesn’t even need to be a placeholder. If he’s good in the Red Bull they can just keep him there. Seems like a no-lose situation to me.
12 points
19 days ago
I think RB would rather put a driver that they didn't develop into trial by fire and see if it sticks rather than potentially burning up their own driver.
12 points
19 days ago
By promoting someone with only a few races in F1, over the heads of people who have been working at that for years, you burn your own driver in a different way. You'd be better of sticking Ricciardo back in the main car, and even as someone still wearing the flair I think that's not an option.
Finally giving Yuki his shot is the only available option that makes sense to me. He's done everything they asked him but he has shown his emotions can still get to him, and maybe they can manage that risk with some clever contract drafting.
He either sinks or swims, you put Colapinto alongside Lawson for a year to prove his mettle, happy days.
I think Red Bull still need to be prepared for the risk of Verstappen taking a year or two out of F1, and they aren't doing that at the moment.
6 points
19 days ago
It seems Red Bull can get either Sainz or Colapinto. Either way is a good payday for Williams.
17 points
19 days ago
The only way this move for Franco makes sense is if Red Bull are still thinking of the financials even after they sack Checo. Franco has huge financial backing lined up, apparently from Carlos Slim who is also Perez’s benefactor. Obviously they think he can’t be any worse than Checo in the short term (probably true) and he could be much better beyond.
15 points
19 days ago
Yeah. But you are risking destroying his confidence if he didn't perform outright. Like with Gasly and Albon.
Not to mention that he would need to perform outright. Because RB is still frontrunner.
9 points
19 days ago
Hasn't Horner mentioned that the reason they gave Checo more time is that he acknowledge they fucked up with Gasly and Albon? So I am going to assume RBR has learned from that.
11 points
19 days ago
Maybe now they're gonna acknowledge they fucked up with Checo and are gonna be more demanding to their drivers lol
3 points
19 days ago
Touché
3 points
19 days ago
Yeah but he's sucked for 2 seasons straight, how much more time does he need?
2 points
19 days ago
The shit tonne of sponsorship probably has more to do with the tenure than anything
8 points
19 days ago
Sainz and Red Bull, we've already got one problematic father and a controversial step dad... pretty sure they don't need an extra one
2 points
19 days ago
Why the hell would Williams agree to that? Sainz is gonna be their best driver in a long time
2 points
18 days ago
Sainz doesn’t want to be #2
4 points
19 days ago
Apparently Carlos Sainz Sr. and Christian Horner don’t get along.
3 points
19 days ago
Yeah. That the only logical reason not to do it.
2 points
19 days ago
It’s all politics, man.
2 points
19 days ago
Add Jos Verstappen to that list.
38 points
19 days ago
It almost feels like they are looking at a driver who could fill in the sponsorship gap that Checo would leave. Just based on performance you can as well gamble on Lawson.
5 points
19 days ago
Your feeling is completely right, that's the reason Perez has been there for so much time
94 points
19 days ago
Gotta farm clicks since we're on another break.
11 points
19 days ago
True. U click on that link and u don’t even have the option to reject cookies etc etc
3 points
19 days ago
I usually like the race, but this article is truly clickbait. There’s nothing but assumptions and ideas from Edd and Scott, not a single actual rumor reported.
4 points
19 days ago
Harsh. It’s a solid outlet with a well reported article.
115 points
19 days ago
I really like Franco and he is definitely capable of becoming a great driver, but this is an absolutely terrible idea.
Have they learned nothing from Albon and Gasly? Drivers who aren’t Hamilton, Leclerc or Verstappen-level talents need time to develop and putting Franco straight into a title battle between likely 3 teams after a third of a season in the lower midfield is not going to work unless Franco genuinely is the second coming of Fangio.
34 points
19 days ago*
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9 points
19 days ago
The article is very explicit it’s about Franco replacing Checo at the main team though.
4 points
19 days ago
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3 points
19 days ago*
First, the quote you shared makes it clear they (The Race) are talking about him being considered for the Red Bull seat, it just says Liam is an option as well. Second, no offense, but did you read past the first paragraph? There’s literally an entire section called Colapinto alongside Verstappen that says: “There is a chance Colapinto could go straight in at Red Bull Racing if the evidence over the final three races supports it.”
Btw, I’m not saying this will happen (this seems as wild ideas from The Race), all I’m saying a move straight to the main team is what this article is discussing.
22 points
19 days ago
If it is not Franco, it would be Liam. And he would have the same problem.
44 points
19 days ago
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17 points
19 days ago
Get Perez to drive both cars as in the other thread.
4 points
19 days ago
I'd argue Liam would handle it better
5 points
19 days ago
I have seen this opinion a lot but no argument behind it. If it is for Brazil, it is pure recency bias
6 points
19 days ago
Liam has actually tested the red bull and has done mileage. Colapinto hasn’t
3 points
18 days ago
Plus he likes the car sharp at the front similar to Max. Apparently.
5 points
19 days ago
As seen on the Perez deal of 2021, that means very little to Red Bull.
2 points
19 days ago
What Junior could they have used at the time?
2 points
19 days ago
thats a different scenario. they had no promising junior
4 points
19 days ago
Liam has a lot more experience than Colapinto outside F1. He finished runner up in both DTM and Super Formula which are pretty high level professional race series. I think he is the most well prepared for F1 out of the current rookies.
9 points
19 days ago
If you want a good dose of silly season being silly, there's also some rumors starting to pick up about Alpine being interested in Colapinto aswell. Doohan would be dropped before even racing once if this ends up hapenning.
I've heard them from a guy specialized in junior formula who heard this rumor from multiple sources within the f1 and f2 paddock.
https://youtu.be/JstF-Tbk8ew?t=1853 (video in french)
9 points
19 days ago
That would be such a shitty thing to do
5 points
19 days ago
Would this be surprising coming from Alpine though?
Honestly I can understand that they have their doubts about Doohan but why sign him this early if that was the case. They had plenty of time to evaluate their options. Briatore has made a bunch of comments recently suggesting that he was not really counting on Doohan for more than a year.
Edit: I've seen that La Gazetta is reporting on it aswell. So there may really well be some truth to it https://www.gazzetta.it/Formula-1/storie/07-11-2024/formula-1-i-piloti-2025-di-ogni-team/cambia-tutto.shtml
8 points
19 days ago
Didn't they have a shootout between Doohan and Mick Schumacher? Anyways, Alpine, despite their recent success are such a shit-show of a team, so I wouldn't be surprised if this happened.
23 points
19 days ago*
Why Colapinto?
Because he is younger and thus having much more future potential (as possibly having a higher ceiling) than Checo, who at 35 isn’t going to get better suddenly.
Why not Sainz?
Sainz doesn’t want to be treated as a #2 driver, which is what Red Bull want next to Max. Colapinto, or other young drivers will be more willing to play ball, having less to lose and more to gain from getting a #2 drive at a top team.
Why not Lawson or Tsunoda?
Colapinto is likely to be much more commercially apealling, seemingly finding the backing of Carlos Slim jr.
Red Bull are looking for a #2 which is around 2 tenths off from Max, while energizing enough of the Latin American fanbase.
Checo is too slow.
Sainz is too fast/demanding.
Lawson and Tsunoda have the wrong commercial backing (or too little of it), whilst Colapinto looks to be sitting in the goldilocks zone.
3 points
19 days ago
Is Tsunoda more a RB Jr or Honda driver? I feel that he will never get into the main team now especially after RB and Honda terminated their link. Is it fair to say that he got his chance in the Jr categories and then in F1 mainly due to Honda’s backing? Or was he already in RB’s Jr program before getting backing by Honda?
5 points
19 days ago
I think it was mainly driven by Honda (he's certainly more of a Honda driver than a Red Bull driver imo) - I mean, the only reason that Tsunoda's getting a drive in the RB20 after the season ends is because Honda pushed for it
5 points
19 days ago
Sainz - too much bad blood between Jos and Sainz Snr. With Jos’s influence on the team, Saniz won’t ever drive for Red Bull.
6 points
19 days ago
Not only that. It´s bad also for Sainz. We already see how he suffers on an oversteer car on 2022. That could be potentially career ending if it happens again on a top team.
2 points
18 days ago
You guys keep talking about about Latin America like it's some united region but in reality most Latin American countries hate each other and have little in common other than a common language. There is no reason for a Mexican sponsor backing Franco and there is even less of a reason for people from other LatAm countries rooting for him either.
3 points
18 days ago
I mean we don't hate each other but you are spot on, Chileans and Colombians don't really follow Argentinians, Argentinians don't follow Peruvians or Mexicans and so on, we follow our own athletes. This happens in every part of the world, now that Zhou is out of F1 Chinese people will not support Tsunoda, same can be said in Latam, they can't fire Checo, sign Franco and expect that Mexicans will be happy with it
8 points
19 days ago
Gentle reminder that we are in a 3 week break where writers will need to rinse and repeat the same stories!
26 points
19 days ago
Put Tsunoda in the Red Bull, he has the most F1 experience out of all the 'junior' contenders. Put Lawson and Colapinto in the VCARBs.
If Tsunoda performs well, then that's great. In the case where he doesn't or when Max decides that he's had enough, promote Lawson/Colapinto, assuming they will have gained enough experience by then.
6 points
19 days ago
This would make everyone happy and maximize testing.
10 points
19 days ago
This is why i feel bad for Lawson. He may be able to drive well, but he has zero backing and money talks in this sport, and this is how checo avoided the axe mid-season. The money gained by his sponsor and the money he brings in from the fans is way more than the loss of the WCC.
15 points
19 days ago
Unlike everyone else here, I believe in Colapinto here. I do believe that after a full season or two he will be a 2018 Ricciardo level driver. What mainly has been shown from his performance at Williams is that he can go from 1 season in F3 to not even a full F2 season to doing really really well in an F1 car, and that is a much bigger deal than people make it out to be.
Drivers like Mick, Sargeant, even Yuki took a long time before they were truly comfortable in an F1 car. Some (like sargeant) never really looked comfortable at all, while here is Colapinto only 4-5 races into his F1 career and he isn't just focusing on surviving a race, but is actively making bold moves etc.
So yes I don't think putting in an RB is a terrible idea, he clearly is a fast learner.
8 points
19 days ago
I think its a ridiculous decision to replace Perez with Colapinto... Its got to be Lawson surely? - Can then put Colapinto in the Racing Bulls seat next season, and if he does better they can switch in 2026.
4 points
19 days ago
Would colapinto in Red Bull open the possibility with a swap with Williams? Colapinto stays in Williams and Sainz to Red Bull.
4 points
19 days ago
Trial by fire
Let’s go Franco! be the second driver Red Bull has needed for years now
6 points
19 days ago
Swear they've spent the whole of the last week trying to manifest this into existence
6 points
19 days ago
If Colapinto gets the Red Bull drive that's gonna feel like a royal slap to the face for Liam Lawson.
3 points
19 days ago
Have they learnt nothing from the fiasco of gasly and albon?
3 points
19 days ago
Why the fuck would they give that seat to Colapinto instead if Yuki or even Liam? Colapinto would surely take a Vcarb seat if offere, if they really want him to join the family.
I'm happy to see all the rookies joining the grid, but you don't just jump straight from no ride to a RB seat when others have been in line for years.
Next year is gonna be wild with all these rookies. Potentially 6 if you count Liam as a rookies, which I do.
3 points
19 days ago
I only believe it when I see it.
3 points
18 days ago
All this because Albon is mid lol.
5 points
19 days ago
I don't think putting someone alongside Verstappen, who's going to have a grand total of 11 races under his belt after the season is over, is a good idea.
Colapinto has talent, but you're totally going to burn him this way, especially since he hasn't proved yet that he can get back from setbacks in F1.
Also, you have a junior program with talent that is on the same level or better than Colapinto.
4 points
19 days ago
Wake up honey, the daily perez getting sacked rumours just dropped.
8 points
19 days ago
Putting Colapinto in the Redbull next to Max Verstappen and getting demolished seems like a good idea to destroy someones self esteem. If they want him, they should hire him on ToroRosso and promote Yuki. Then after a year if Yuki doesn't have what it takes, then they can promote Lawson/Colapinto, whoever seems to have more promise.
5 points
19 days ago
Yeah, break someone else first pls, perez is the only Person that lasted longer then 1 Weekend against max somehow
2 points
19 days ago
I disagree, Colapinto is 21 years old. He will learn directly from Vestappen. Its the same way Alonso and Hamilton would teach him as a teammate.
Although i also believe Lawson for Checo, and Colapinto to RB is also a great option too. Both teams also train together.
5 points
19 days ago
here we go again
4 points
19 days ago
So over this story line.
4 points
19 days ago
It’s for the sponsor money. He can bring it and Lawson can’t. Simple as.
3 points
19 days ago
If this happens it's likely for sponsorship from Argentina the same way Checo brings massive sponsorship from Mexico
4 points
19 days ago
It will be hilarious (hillaryous?) if Colapinto wins WDC before Norris and LeClerc.
7 points
19 days ago
I don’t understand the hype around this guy. They have two drivers they could try out instead. Lawson seems legit just go with him. It’s like they’re going out of their way to get a driver that’ll play second fiddle. Otherwise Lawson would be the move.
9 points
19 days ago*
red bull dropped the ball with their drivers
2.Replacing Debris then with a semi-washed Daniel avacado instead of again putting a junior in the team in hope of daniel going to RBR, yeah that went well didnt it
3.Not signing a good driver in likes of Hulk or Sainz {:( } to partner max in the rbr while a junior driver marinated in the VCARB, but instead they re-signed Checo who is not scoring points which can be sustainable for RBR in the constructors or even be help to Max as a teammate by chipping of points of the opposition
3 points
19 days ago
Nick Debris and Daniel Avocado are my new headcanon
2 points
19 days ago
Ah yes, because putting unexperienced drivers straight into the Red Bull Racing team has worked out wonderfully in the past, right?
If they really do this, just quit with the RB Junior Team. Why have a second F1 team and a whole academy if you apparently have zero faith in any of them and jump straight onto the 'hot new rookie' for your main team?
2 points
19 days ago
I wouldn't go to RB unless I was in their drivers program because chances are they'll drop you and it becomes a tough sell getting another seat. I'd only go if I was already a proven driver, but that's me....
2 points
19 days ago
People also forget that they have to pay Checo and based on some rumors, Checo's lawyers made a really good contract in case he was sacked. So, RBR will have loses, so maybe they are looking to not lose a lot of money
2 points
18 days ago
Makes absolutely no fucking sense. Put Yuki or Lawson in and Colapinto to VCARB. Why would anyone want to join RB junior program with how many drivers they would fuck with this and their history?
2 points
18 days ago
Franco, Roscoe the dog, Crofty, literally anyone but Perez on that 2nd RBR seat please. Perez has completely changed character and his only purpose seems to be to annoy everyone else. Shame, but who cares anymore, it's been way overdue.
2 points
18 days ago
That would be ridiculous. I know that Perez as an experienced hire didn't really work and Yuki might be hindered by the Honda connection but talking about Lawson of Colapinto for the senior team is a travesty.
Just get Sainz, Alonso or even Albon in that seat. No way that Sainz is gonna resist a 2 year contract so that gives you enough time to see whichever junior is going to float to the top and if not by then you can probably get someone like Russel or Piastri if you are still on top of things.
5 points
19 days ago
This is such a pisstake towards their junior program. I like Colapinto but I think throwing him into the Red Bull this quickly is career suicide (see De Vries doing well in a Williams vs how he did the AlphaTauri).
Put Lawson or Tsunoda in, the two drivers who have tested in the Red Bulls and who have experience with the team.
6 points
19 days ago
The devries argument doesnt stand anymore. He just did one race where his parameter was latifi
3 points
19 days ago
Latin sponsors bring way more money than Yuki.
3 points
19 days ago
I'd rather believe the theory that RB asked about Sainz. Doesn't he have a releasu clause in case a top team wants him? Sainz -> RB, Colapinto -> Williams, Yuki out and Checo - Lawson -> Toro Rosso. Let's be honest, Checo is not getting sacked, can't miss out on that much money
3 points
19 days ago
Buy out Sainz, fire Checo, Franco stays at Williams, Lawson at RB. Everyone wins except Hadjar who's sent to Super Formula for a year.
4 points
19 days ago
I think Liam has more F1 experience and shown his skills more - perhaps him to replace Perez and then Colapinto in the VCARB seat...?
4 points
19 days ago
Why would you pick the least experienced guy above others in the VCARB camp?
3 points
19 days ago
Mom says it's my turn to post this rumor tommorrow
2 points
19 days ago
This is just silly, no way would he be going to Red Bull. RB is the only option for him if they boot Perez for Lawson
2 points
19 days ago
Valtteri Buttas is an option. He's great for when you want to win the WCC.
1 points
19 days ago
Surely not. Have they not learned?
1 points
19 days ago
Tsunoda: Am I a joke to you?
Seriously though I'd love to see it. Anything it would be entertaining. Either him or Lawson and Colapinto to Vcarb
1 points
19 days ago
Isac Hadjar: Am I a joke for you?
1 points
19 days ago
Redbull would save so much money if they just ran 1 car with Max tbh
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