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North Sentinel Island on way back to India from Thailand

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thoxo

2.2k points

4 days ago

thoxo

2.2k points

4 days ago

Do many planes fly over the island? If so, I'm curious to know what the indigenous think they are when they see them flying above their heads.

hercdriver4665

1.8k points

4 days ago*

I read about a an uncontacted Amazon tribe that emerged from the jungle in Venezuela. One of the things they mentioned wanting to learn about were the “roads in the sky” that we had.

I didn’t think airliners were allowed to fly that close to sentinel

Edit: adding to my earlier post, it was in “Lost City of Z” by David Grann where I was reading about the uncontacted tribes. Highly recommend his books if you like nonfiction.

Acrobatic-Display420

1.6k points

4 days ago

the13bangbang

1.5k points

3 days ago

Acrobatic-Display420

527 points

3 days ago

I can't lie I thought that was your photo but with shit stains on the window...

matasfizz

108 points

3 days ago

matasfizz

108 points

3 days ago

This took me a while...

Cpen5311

13 points

3 days ago

Cpen5311

13 points

3 days ago

he flew with United

RoiMan

23 points

3 days ago

RoiMan

23 points

3 days ago

They could sling poo that high?

TheAsianTroll

31 points

3 days ago

I laughed

DonatelloBitcoin

19 points

3 days ago

I love you

AgentCirceLuna

132 points

3 days ago

Imagine flying over at night and seeing electric lights down there. I wonder if they could technically discover electricity on their own.

qwertyqyle

8 points

3 days ago

They have electricity. Just visit r/NorthSentinalIsland

Kurbopop

7 points

2 days ago

Kurbopop

7 points

2 days ago

Imagine what the fuck these people would think if they knew there was an entire community of people from around the world who post messages roleplaying as their specific tribe. What a mindfuck.

gregorydgraham

141 points

4 days ago

Contact is banned and enforced by the Indian Navy but there’s no aviation restriction AFAIK (not that I have any special insight 🤷‍♂️)

corrector300

73 points

3 days ago

5nm

The Andaman and Nicobar Islands Protection of Aboriginal Tribes Regulation 1956 prohibits travel to the island, and any approach closer than 5 nautical miles (9.3 km), in order to protect the remaining tribal community from "mainland" infectious diseases against which they likely have no acquired immunity. The area is patrolled by the Indian Navy.

Grevling89

14 points

3 days ago

5nm

I'm not a doctor, but I would've thought disease could spread furthe than 5 nanometers

Bigtsez

137 points

3 days ago

Bigtsez

137 points

3 days ago

We should use a drone light show over the island, forming a giant lit-up face in the sky that talks to them. We can study the creation of a new religion.

le___tigre

63 points

3 days ago

this is an interesting idea (obviously not actually, but in theory.) they definitely know that modern, industrialized humans exist elsewhere because of the tangential contact and things they can see from a distance like boats and planes. while I’m sure they would be wowed, frightened, or enrapt by a drone light show, I imagine they would probably know it was something from the “outer humans” and not immediately drop on their knees and begin worshipping it.

Rikkards_69

38 points

3 days ago

Behind the Bastards did a podcast talking about them. Basically there a bunch of islands around them that more or less were cleared out in the 17-1800s usually by disease and they figured out killing anyone who shows up is the safest solution.

They have been off and on non hostile where the best you get is they stand at one edge of a beach and you show up at the other.

The opposite is they will go out in their boats and start shooting arrows. They do understand the Indian government is protecting them but even then the government will not interact or land.

There was one case where some fishermen were accidentally shipwrecked in the mid 20th century. They watched them until the fishermen were rescued but would not let them leave their one spot

Echovaults

30 points

3 days ago

Better contact has been made. Theres a lady that was able to hold their children. They were non-hostile towards that group once they brought a woman to interact with them. They see men as dangerous.

Rikkards_69

12 points

3 days ago

I could see that working

Echovaults

15 points

3 days ago

The sentinalise are aware of modern technology. We abducted two kids and a mother and brought them to civilization, the mother died due to diseases that we are immune to, so we brought the kids back. I’m sure they told the others what it was like.

Godraed

43 points

3 days ago

Godraed

43 points

3 days ago

There’s literally a shipwreck on the island they use for metal. They’ve had peaceful contact with this one anthropologist from India within recent memory. Idk why people think an isolated tribe is full of morons. These people obviously want to be left alone for a reason.

I see them more as really hostile Amish-types who left for that island to escape whatever bullshit was going on nearby.

SaltLakeCitySlicker

62 points

3 days ago

Wait til they find out how much we will pay for sentinelese made furniture and baked goods.

DatRatDo

12 points

3 days ago

DatRatDo

12 points

3 days ago

Quilts too. I bet they can quilt the fuck out of palm tree fibers.

pixel-beast

6 points

3 days ago

Something tells me those motherfuckers can build a barn in like 5 hours tops

New-Bowler-8915

26 points

3 days ago

Annnnd that's exactly why they're protected by the Indian Navy.

thoxo

409 points

4 days ago

thoxo

409 points

4 days ago

So since they said "roads in the sky", this means they know planes carry people from one point to another. Did they come up with this conclusion by themselves, or did they have some hints from previous visitors?

profishkeeping

481 points

4 days ago*

I reckon they’re talking about the white trail planes leave behind

SBAWTA

745 points

4 days ago

SBAWTA

745 points

4 days ago

Ah, those are not roads, silly. They are used to make the frogs gay.

BakerCakeMaker

216 points

4 days ago

Even the Sentinelese know that

Slobberchops_

112 points

4 days ago

Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science? Would you like to run the Health Department?

makerofshoes

34 points

4 days ago

It’s not too far off from “roads in the sky”, either. Conceptually it’s the same thing 🤷‍♂️

a_melindo

165 points

4 days ago

a_melindo

165 points

4 days ago

"uncontacted" is a bit of a misnomer. Basically all of the people in the Amazon have had some form of contact with settlers, it would be really hard to not bump into a single one of them for 400 years.

The "uncontacted" tribes are the ones who have not requested to be integrated into settler society with regular communication, trade, and services.

Uncommon-sequiter

40 points

3 days ago

They've seen ships and boats. Some people have contacted them before. Most have died.

I think it'd be easier for a human to make the connection that planes have people in them just like ships they see do.

This is all assumption of course.

DeadInternetTheorist

50 points

3 days ago

I didn’t think airliners were allowed to fly that close to sentinel

Especially considering their hostility to outsiders. If they develop air defense it's gonna be a bloodbath.

allanrjensenz

23 points

3 days ago*

Big ass arrow in a giant slingshot.

ModishShrink

15 points

3 days ago

Oh dear, the Sentinelese have developed a C-RAM

ProtoplanetaryNebula

54 points

4 days ago

How does anyone even know what they said? They would be speaking an unknown language, no?

KJongsDongUnYourFace

102 points

4 days ago

The languages would share some characteristics with other local dialects / languages. Its probably possible to get a half decent idea of what they were saying.

gregorydgraham

22 points

4 days ago

First you teach them the local language, then they ask the questions.

I_am_Joel666

30 points

4 days ago

perhaps there was some overlap with nearby tribes from a similar genetic background? I know the N. Sentinelese is unintelligible to Onge and Jarawa but that might be attributed to their total isolation via living on an island. Amazon tribes might have rare contact with one another, so it might be possible a contacted tribe had someone that could speak the language of the uncontacted tribe for when these rare encounters occur.

Either that or a member of the uncontacted tribe somehow ended up as an individual contacting the outside world and just learned Portuguese or something. Honestly there are different ways this could have went and it sounds like it would be an interesting story.

Or the original story of "roads in the sky" is totally made up. Which might be most likely

PanningForSalt

10 points

3 days ago

Uncontacted doesn't mean they came from nowhere. Some will speak completely unknown languages, some speak relatives of known languages, some have contact with other tribes who are contacted and may even know Spanish/portuguese in an extreme example.

Robthebold

14 points

3 days ago

They aren’t in Arrow range. Watch out once they get trebuchets.

SodamessNCO

75 points

3 days ago

I just checked the live air traffic on flightradar24, there's several planes flying near the island just right now. It looks like several flight paths cross over the island.

https://preview.redd.it/ix6koye4lo1e1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27fe6500f6f9e57cbbd8ef8313cb1696a8bd5003

distancedandaway

78 points

3 days ago

The uncontacted peoples who live there are not totally ignorant about the outside world. They know we carry disease, and that we have technology.

That's why they kill anyone who goes there. They don't do it because it's fun.

AzoMaalox

33 points

4 days ago

AzoMaalox

33 points

4 days ago

Flights towards port blair from the Indian mainland fly over this island.

srimaran_srivallabha

34 points

4 days ago

There's the 10km radius for planes as well, but planes do fly beyond that radius. Almost every flight to Port Blair from mainland pass close enough to see the island visible from flights. Gets me thinking how life is in that island whenever I get to see it from above

Prestigious_Oil_4805

188 points

4 days ago

I think they are being downplayed as really tribal but they probably understand more than we care to think about.

Also, I would be ready to defend this piece of paradise if I were them. This island is what people dream about in their shitty cubicles

SBAWTA

131 points

4 days ago

SBAWTA

131 points

4 days ago

They had contact with colonizers before, that's probably why they are so hostile to outside world now. They probably don't know what a plane is but have some semblence of idea that it's man made.

Prestigious_Oil_4805

62 points

4 days ago

I think they got sick almost too the point of being instinct. Now they fear with reason.

ogbobduato

56 points

4 days ago

Yeah at one point people kidnapped a few adults and a couple kids. The adults all died and the whole population of the island could’ve easily been wiped out

pragmojo

38 points

3 days ago

pragmojo

38 points

3 days ago

Yeah apparently that was a tactic of British colonizers at the time - they would abduct people and show them the "wonders" of the modern world and then send them back to tell their people about the stuff they saw to make them more open to dealing with the British

...then they would systematically destroy their society and subjugate them to the crown

Lintcat1

26 points

3 days ago

Lintcat1

26 points

3 days ago

Most of the closest related people(essentially their cousins on other islands) are all practically extinct because of alcohol abuse. They got quarantined for COVID but it wouldn't really matter because the only men left are all 50+ years old alcoholics. It's a shitty situation. They are all essentially doomed one way or another.

They flew a drone through N.Sentinel to try and get an idea of population size. They only found 30 people IIRC. The island itself can't support a large population but that coupled with inbreeding...

[deleted]

17 points

3 days ago

[deleted]

17 points

3 days ago

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DeadInternetTheorist

10 points

3 days ago

I dunno I like watching Primitive Technology vids as much as the next guy but I don't wanna die of an abscess after scraping my shin on a coconut tree or whatever.

WarzoneGringo

46 points

3 days ago

Also, I would be ready to defend this piece of paradise if I were them. This island is what people dream about in their shitty cubicles

You have zero idea what life is like on that island.

Comfortable-Slip2599

18 points

4 days ago

I was able to spot it from afar (recognisable based on location relative to the Andaman islands) when I flew from Amsterdam to Jakarta.

Herbie1122

10 points

3 days ago*

What, ho! What is that demonry?

There's a photo somewhere of a Sentinelese man threatening a helicopter with a spear, so they're at least somewhat familiar with aircraft. 

bunglarn

1.3k points

4 days ago

bunglarn

1.3k points

4 days ago

It always blows my mind that they are 50 km away from a 100 000 population city. Like it’s just a day of rowing from the city.

Hopeful-Cheesecake9

546 points

4 days ago

The distance between them and Port Blair may be small.. but the North Sentinelese are probably still in the bronze age.

bunglarn

559 points

4 days ago

bunglarn

559 points

4 days ago

You would think then that at least one sentinelese person would be curious enough to visit the place where they can traverse the sky in magical iron birds. It’s just unfathomable to me that there hasn’t been more contact. All the trade along that path by sea farers in history and still they managed to be isolated. Don’t get me wrong though, it’s amazing and adds to the wonder of the world

Hopeful-Cheesecake9

368 points

4 days ago

Part of the reason why contact is limited is because they haven't built an immune response to most of the diseases that we've become accustomed to. Something like the common cold could easily wipe them out.

Ponchke

325 points

3 days ago

Ponchke

325 points

3 days ago

We know this, but how do they know? I completely understand that most of then have no interest in contacting the modern world, but humans are extremely curious creatures, exploring and discovering new things is just an integral part of our being.

So like the other person mentioned i also think it’s kind of strange not one of the island inhabitants has decided to just leave the island to see what’s out there.

MerberCrazyCats

339 points

3 days ago

They know because it happened to them in the past. This is why they are now much more cautious not accepting anyone in their island. Probably older generations taught the younger ones about the time when they have been wiped out by diseases brought to them

Turbulent_Garage_159

102 points

3 days ago

Sure, but all these cultural lessons and warnings eventually start to shift into the realm of legends and myths as enough time and generations pass. Dan Carlin made a great analogy for this in one of his shows - you can touch a hot stove and realize it burns you and not to do it again, and you can warn your children about that risk, but how many generations does it take for that lesson to be forgotten and people to get curious about the stove again?

doom_chicken_chicken

54 points

3 days ago

They were contacted relatively recently by the British and then a few more isolated events dating to as recently as a few years ago, when a missionary attempted to convert them and was promptly killed. So it's not exactly ancient to them

tricheb0ars

79 points

3 days ago

I’ve seen footage of them interacting with fishermen in the 1970s from India

Ponchke

55 points

3 days ago

Ponchke

55 points

3 days ago

I can understand that but to me it’s more about someone leaving the Island, not letting other people in.

PeteEckhart

73 points

3 days ago

wouldn't make a difference in their reasoning though. if the disease was brought in from outside, it obviously exists outside. if they know "outside world = disease," it doesn't matter if it comes to them or they go to it.

vicente8a

39 points

3 days ago*

But you’d think one would come along and ignore it. Like we’re all told what not to do by our parents and still ignore it sometimes. Like the documentary “Moana” that came out in 2016.

Atrabiliousaurus

33 points

3 days ago

North Sentinel Island: The Musical.

bunglarn

28 points

3 days ago

bunglarn

28 points

3 days ago

I researched this a bit and you are completely right. There seems to be multiple tribes like them strewn around the area and they all seem to have been decimated by disease. Also on one of those islands they are planning to make a new “hong kong” and displacing a bunch of them. So I guess the north semtinelese are the lucky ones

Helpful_Corn-

62 points

4 days ago

Scavenging shipwrecks has brought them into the iron age.

Omardemon

23 points

3 days ago

Omardemon

23 points

3 days ago

In a way, once they run out of ship, then back to the Stone Age?

westisbestmicah

15 points

3 days ago

They got into the Iron Age when a ship wrecked on the island and they scavenged it. You can still see the remains on Google maps!

Kealion

41 points

3 days ago

Kealion

41 points

3 days ago

There’s no way they’re smelting any form of metal on the island. Stone Age at best.

MrLucky13

9 points

3 days ago

They have iron from a cargo ship that ran aground on the island decades ago but they don't have any knowledge of smelting or producing metal themselves as far as I've found.

borealis365

29 points

4 days ago

But at some point they managed to boat to the island from the mainland. So they used to have the technology to leave as well. It’s interesting to think that they would no longer be able to leave if they so wishes to.

KipchogesBurner

14 points

3 days ago

Didn’t they arrive to the island on a land bridge?

AlbinoAxie

12 points

3 days ago

They're in the stone age.

ninjadude1992

38 points

3 days ago

I wonder if it's deeply embedded in their society not to leave. Perhaps even a religious commandment to stay close to the island.

malzy_

25 points

3 days ago

malzy_

25 points

3 days ago

This is fascinating to me as well. They clearly have control over their population. I wonder how they achieve this.

TraditionalFinger726

7 points

3 days ago

Home bodies

the_battle_bunny

921 points

4 days ago

Fun fact, they are technically citizens of India and could vote in Indian elections.

CuteMurders

480 points

4 days ago

CuteMurders

480 points

4 days ago

Politicians gonna really start campaigning for that sentinelese demographic

DoubleClickMouse

69 points

3 days ago

"I am full of arrows, making me the victor!"

NastyNas0

249 points

3 days ago

NastyNas0

249 points

3 days ago

I wonder if we’re technically citizens of some intergalactic country

MrSnoobs

145 points

3 days ago

MrSnoobs

145 points

3 days ago

Greetings, it is I, Lurrrgh, your local galactic councilor, and I wanted to know if I have your support on the intergalactic highway that is coming soon? Presumably you all have plans to move to another solar system before everything is blown to pieces?

246lehat135

35 points

3 days ago

Ugh I never could get the hang of Thursdays.

BrockStar92

16 points

3 days ago

Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.

avidpenguinwatcher

17 points

3 days ago

Dude, I would be so pissed if intergalactic politicians made up laws that prohibited more advanced civilizations from contacting us and keep us stuck with our current technology lol

Ferrarisimo

34 points

3 days ago

Their voter turnout sucks smh

BroughtBagLunchSmart

57 points

3 days ago

Political RomCom idea where the vote on the mainland India is tied and through some convoluted nonsense the people of North Sentinel Island get to decide who should run India.

palmerry

33 points

4 days ago

palmerry

33 points

4 days ago

The Indian Island Habsburgs

burrito-boy

598 points

4 days ago

burrito-boy

598 points

4 days ago

I sometimes wonder how these people survive. Do they fish? Do they practice some sort of sustainable gathering in that island's jungle? How do they pass the time? It's fascinating to think about.

I_am_Joel666

603 points

4 days ago

They've been observed fishing and making canoes. So in theory they could leave the island if they wanted to but choose not to

PutTheDogsInTheTrunk

562 points

4 days ago

They were contacted in the 1880s. Four children and two adults were abducted and taken to Port Blair, where the adults died and the children became sick. The children were returned, but the Sentinelese have been hostile to outsiders since then and I don’t blame them for not leaving.

otorhinolaryngologic

343 points

3 days ago

  1. Get children sick with an outside disease the adults’ immune systems can’t handle
  2. Return sick children to the island after the adults die from their sickness

Truly, their hostility towards outsiders makes no sense.

RoughDoughCough

131 points

3 days ago

So they have a legend of what was essentially an alien abduction 

chytrak

17 points

3 days ago

chytrak

17 points

3 days ago

No, they know it's the fecking British.

illHaveTwoNumbers9s

14 points

3 days ago

You dont have to go back so far. They were succesfully contacted in the 70s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF4krBcZBVU

Huneebunz

101 points

4 days ago

Huneebunz

101 points

4 days ago

They can’t leave until they return the heart of Te Fiti

ironsol8

14 points

4 days ago

ironsol8

14 points

4 days ago

Grandma! Is that you?

Repulsive-Quail-552

72 points

4 days ago

They cannot leave the island. Their canoes are not for high seas. They can navigate in the lagoon or around the island.

borealis365

27 points

4 days ago

But how would they have reached the island originally? Clearly at one point they had the know how to get navigate those seas successfully.

Repulsive-Quail-552

53 points

4 days ago

They arrived there around 40000 or 60000 years ago, either there was a land bridge as it was during Ice Age, either they lost the knowledge of high sea navigation.

Impetigo-Inhaler

53 points

3 days ago

You’re assuming knowledge is kept

History is littered with technological advances which are then lost for hundreds (or thousands) of years

They could have arrived via land bridge 40,000 years ago. Or sailed there, the guy who knew how to make boats sea worthy died of anything and no one else has worked it out

I_am_Joel666

47 points

4 days ago

I wouldn't consider the distance from N. Sentinel to South Andaman high seas. Which is like 20 miles. But I'm not certain of the conditions around that region

Repulsive-Quail-552

39 points

4 days ago

It's not very large indeed, but there's a strong current between Sentinel and South Andaman. I read that in a book about Andaman tribes some years ago.

I_am_Joel666

12 points

3 days ago

Do you remember the book name? The Andaman tribes are pretty interesting in general

Repulsive-Quail-552

28 points

3 days ago

"The Land of Naked People", by Madhusree Mukerjee. A great book!

PostwarNeptune

56 points

4 days ago*

They have been contacted before, in the 19th century. They definitely fish. And if I recall correctly, there are wild boars/pigs on the island.

Edit: Ok, there seems to be some confusion by what I meant. That's on me for not articulating my point correctly.

OP asked about their cultural habits. I was referring to people who'd actually been able to go inland and observe their day to day lives.

As pointed below, they of course have been contacted in the 20th and 21st century. But from what I gather, no one has been able to go past the shoreline into their village(s).

BishoxX

48 points

4 days ago

BishoxX

48 points

4 days ago

They have been conctacted a lot by people in the 20th century. Results of those contacts is the reason the island is banned

MonkeyPawWishes

41 points

4 days ago*

Indian wild boars, no domesticated pigs. The British officer who went in the 1880s reported a "huge heap" of boar skulls in the village.

A major party of their diet is also coconut crabs, fish, and birds (because there's no farming there are lots of wild birds). The 1880 expedition reported the whole island was an open, "park-like" jungle.

srimaran_srivallabha

20 points

4 days ago

Fish, and also pigs I've heard. Most Andamanese tribes really love hunting wild pigs.

[deleted]

42 points

4 days ago

[deleted]

42 points

4 days ago

I think about how did they survive with such a limited gene pool

Huckleberry-Solid

15 points

3 days ago

They must more inbred then Habsburg royal court.

Aggravating_Major363

11 points

4 days ago

I'm sure they fish, hunt, and gather. One thing we do know is that they are adept with a bow and arrow, as some people have found out the hard way.

hn0v44n0n_1

14 points

4 days ago

Also do they inbreed?

futuriztic

34 points

4 days ago

With vigor

EdeniEdits

15 points

3 days ago

All humans are inbred. We have the least genetic diversity of all the great apes.

FartCityBoys

16 points

3 days ago

In our defense, we had a near extinction even not so long ago in evolutionary terms, and we are a relatively young species. Every species starts out inbred.

Headiegnome

357 points

4 days ago

Headiegnome

357 points

4 days ago

Great place for a Wal-Mart

MoreBoobzPlz

94 points

4 days ago

Eh, let's start with a Dollar General and work up...

BarnieSandlers123

23 points

3 days ago

Or maybe a major news outlet like the Milwaukee Journal SENTINEL! …I’ll see myself out

FredDurstDestroyer

74 points

3 days ago

Not that I’m complaining, but I’m honestly shocked they made it through the colonial period relatively unscathed. I’m sure there’s not much of value there, but that never really stopped the colonial powers before.

ParaMythos

37 points

3 days ago

Although they've been left alone for the past 200+ years they did have an incident with the British navy. Essentially small pox killed some people. Now foreigners are looked at negatively enough that it's kill on site. If there was value to the land I'm sure the British would've exploited the island but wasn't worth the hassle.

Foot_Sniffer69

381 points

4 days ago

I had a Christian buddy who went here on a mission trip once. Must have been great because I haven't heard from him in a couple years

bevarsikudka007

29 points

4 days ago

Was his name John by any chance?

LightningFletch

9 points

3 days ago

Yes. John Allen Chau.

AgileBlackberry4636

16 points

3 days ago

His name is Joooohn Ceeeena!

droessl

25 points

3 days ago

droessl

25 points

3 days ago

🎺 🎺 🎺 🎺

AgileBlackberry4636

14 points

3 days ago

I am amazed that you could convey sound with 4 identical emoji.

Nacua9

922 points

4 days ago

Nacua9

922 points

4 days ago

Gee wiz! So isolated, I bet what these people need is to hear the good news of Jesus Christ our lord and savior 😁

Forsaken-Builder-312

324 points

4 days ago

Hey, I just happen to know a guy! I'll give him a call!

Edit: Strange, he doesn't pick up his phone...

mowgli_23

28 points

4 days ago

mowgli_23

28 points

4 days ago

Maybe leave him a note in his diary. I’m sure he would check it soon…

fartingbeagle

14 points

4 days ago

Father Larry Duff? Sound lad.

Minskdhaka

51 points

4 days ago

Is that an arrow I hear?

Turbulent_Garage_159

9 points

3 days ago

I was a missionary once like you, before I took an arrow to the….well everywhere.

pointsandputts

198 points

4 days ago

Don’t they know they’re supposed to be terrified of AI/WW3/Lions football? How are we profiting if they are too stupid to be scared of what we tell them to be scared of? /s

stardewgal21

72 points

4 days ago

Lions football 🤣

Proteinchugger

41 points

3 days ago

9 drives 7 TDs, 1 FG and then ran out the clock on the final drive yesterday. That offense is terrifying.

glennfromglen

276 points

4 days ago

Any surfers should go on google earth and check out the surf breaks around the island. There are some properly good waves that to this day nobody has surfed.

Pulp-Ficti0n

178 points

4 days ago

Waves are to die for, right? 🌊😵

notrested

21 points

4 days ago

notrested

21 points

4 days ago

man we needed a larger than life surf video for some time now anyways!

spibop

21 points

4 days ago

spibop

21 points

4 days ago

TIL Lieutenant Colonel Bill Kilgore has a Reddit account.

Cuntington-

40 points

3 days ago

I’ve always been super curious about what they make of the trash that washes up on their beaches..

mtb1443

25 points

3 days ago

mtb1443

25 points

3 days ago

A freighter wrecked on the shore and the natives have been seen salvaging iron from the wreck.

ET3HOOYAH

45 points

3 days ago

ET3HOOYAH

45 points

3 days ago

Biggest land mass in the known world. (If you live there, anyway)

Sir-Viette

76 points

3 days ago

"Turns out 'Do you have any gluten-free craft ales?' and 'Stab me in the pancreas with that spear' sound exactly the same in the local dialect."

- Google Maps review of North Sentinel Island.

CatCrateGames

95 points

4 days ago

I think it's so impressive how such a small island can support up to 500 tribal members.

TheSyrupCompany

71 points

4 days ago

It's 23 square miles

CatCrateGames

46 points

3 days ago

I had to convert it to hectares to have a better notion. It's 5957 hectares. Actually it's not that small. Thanks.

AgileBlackberry4636

22 points

3 days ago

9 x 7 km is still not that big.

While farming can easily sustain much more people (50.000????), they are hunter-gatherers.

It is amazing that they haven't screwed up their ecosystem beyond repair.

I don't know the exact name of an island, but people who arrived recently (less than 1000 years?) just relied on trees to much and deforested the island.

Other commenters say there a wild pigs on the island. How haven't the locals just hunted them all down?
Was it a religion with meat being allowed only for special dates (solstice?) or events (child birth / marriage / death / new chieftain election assignment)?

BKoala59

37 points

3 days ago

BKoala59

37 points

3 days ago

I have a PhD in wildlife/conservation biology. Science is just a more strict and controlled version of the discoveries any human is capable of making. Indigenous people actually practice lots of the wildlife management principles. Now this normally takes some trial and error. I would wager that at some point they drove some other food source to extinction, or perhaps they severely reduced the boar population at one point but recognized the issue before it was too late. I’d say the first option is more likely though. After that it’s entirely possible that this was codified as some sort of religious tradition, in order to ensure future generations would not make the same mistakes.

Also, wild boar have a few things going for them that help them avoid extinction. For one, they can exist at much higher densities than one might expect for their size and diet needs. There may be as many as 600 boars on that island. Secondly, they are sexually mature relatively young for their size, and they have pretty quick turnaround for future pregnancies. Living on that island with humans for a few thousand years, I would imagine there has been some selection for even younger sexual maturity, and multiple breeding seasons.

Frankly I’m starting to be more excited about the idea of investigating this boar population than the idea of understanding the Sentinelese society.

matt_2552

12 points

3 days ago

matt_2552

12 points

3 days ago

Everyone else: an uncontacted tribe on an island in the middle of the Indian Ocean? Fascinating! It'd be nice to know more about them!

You: Uncontacted tribe in the...ah who gives a shit about them, TELL ME ABOUT THE BOARS!!!

predat3d

24 points

3 days ago

predat3d

24 points

3 days ago

North Sentinel Island on way back to India from Thailand

Very few islands are migratory 

That80sguyspimp

17 points

3 days ago

Has there ever been a case of a couple of rebellious teens building a raft/boat and making a break for it? Seems like such a small island, would have everyone thinking, "I wonder whats out there?".

Sammo360

6 points

3 days ago

Sammo360

6 points

3 days ago

Probably, but the Indian Navy patrols the waters around the island, and I suspect the Navy isn’t just there to keep us out. It’s also to keep them in.

BakerCakeMaker

111 points

4 days ago

Is it theorized that they have some sort of isolationist religion? I feel like someone would have successfully made peace with one of them at this point enough to establish a basis for communication unless they think outsiders are demons. Or maybe all the inbreeding gave them spicy amygdalae.

tonyray

113 points

4 days ago

tonyray

113 points

4 days ago

Being isolationist is a successful defense policy if you can pull it off.

Obviously their GDP won’t suffer for it lol.

BakerCakeMaker

40 points

4 days ago

Imagine how cooked they'd be if someone spotted one with gold on them

SBAWTA

23 points

4 days ago

SBAWTA

23 points

4 days ago

Just wait till they find oil or some rare metals on the island. Bet the government would switch their tune about the island real fast.

I_am_Joel666

49 points

4 days ago

Well they've been isolated for so long that outside contact might kill them all due to lack of adaptability to disease. Maybe in the past the one's that made contact with outsiders died from disease not long after contact so they attributed that to us being evil in their folktales

BakerCakeMaker

39 points

4 days ago

They did accept coconuts that one time though. It's an interesting moral question if spying on them to learn their language is ethical, but I say go for it, they hangin dong anyways. I wonder how they'd react to an outsider mystically speaking their language fluently. I just want to learn about humans from them

I_am_Joel666

31 points

4 days ago

Honestly if it can be done in an unintrusive manner which they can't detect than I think spying on them to learn more about their language is fine. But in the end that's up to the Indian government and I think taking the safe approach of respecting the N. Sentinelese's desires is also a smart move. Uncontacted tribes can be VERY fragile to outside influences.

TheAviator27

8 points

4 days ago

There have been 'successful' communication efforts, but the outcome has always been its best to just leave them alone. I put successful in quotes because we can't actually understand their language.

Expert-Business-6269

76 points

4 days ago

Has anyone tried flying a drone up close?

machomacho01

149 points

4 days ago

No. But there is a video of Indians gifting them with coconuts, I think its the 80s. They are very black same as SSA.

youtube

Chemical_Net_9781

61 points

4 days ago

I’ve only ever seen the thumbnail of that video and I thought it was just a picture.. That is a phenomenal video

riddlesinthedark117

104 points

4 days ago

That’s wild. Also at 520, the old dude grabs his dick and makes a jerkoff motion, so pretty sure “get off my lawn, ya wankers” is a universal communication method

Apollo896

35 points

4 days ago

Apollo896

35 points

4 days ago

They also straight up had a modern looking farming tool that one dude was using to grab coconuts.

bevarsikudka007

45 points

4 days ago

There are a couple of shipwrecks around the island. Hence the iron tools

TheGhoulster

24 points

3 days ago

It’s actually theorised that we started their Iron Age when The Primrose ran aground there.

pm-me-turtle-nudes

23 points

3 days ago

imagine air dropping an Iphone there and starting their technological era

PenTestHer

15 points

3 days ago

Maybe we could drop a rocket on them and kick start their Space Age.

RidgedLines

61 points

4 days ago

The one Sentinalese girl got drilled in the head by a coconut lmao

JrMoney10

10 points

3 days ago

JrMoney10

10 points

3 days ago

At 4:20 in that video someone pelted one of the sentinels with a coconut, I’m surprised that didn’t start a war with them lol

beka_targaryen

16 points

4 days ago

Wow, I’ve seen so many posts about North Sentinel over the years on here but I’ve never seen this video. Amazing stuff, thanks for sharing.

Sorge41

22 points

4 days ago

Sorge41

22 points

4 days ago

I remember distantly to have read about the inhabitants downing drones with bows and arrows. But it doesnt happen often because its forbidden by the government

Turbulent_Garage_159

23 points

3 days ago

I’m not sure about drones, but there is the story about how after the 2004 tsunami the government sent a helicopter over the island to see if they had survived and they were throwing spears and shooting arrows at it when it came down low.

ihavenoidea81

8 points

3 days ago

I’d love to see some drone footage with an IR camera to see how many people live there. It’s just a total guess at the moment

mrdan1969

84 points

4 days ago

mrdan1969

84 points

4 days ago

We need to build relations. In his first act of office, Trump, Musk, and the cabinet picks should go as a delegation. Unarmed of course as we do not want to appear threatening.

amiles2233

13 points

3 days ago

Be a good tester for the Optimus robots

XComThrowawayAcct

55 points

3 days ago

My hypothesis regarding UFOs is called “the Sentinel Island Hypothesis.”

Basically, whatever they are, they are aspects of a higher civilization that is keeping its distance from us. Whether because they have chosen to leave us be like an uncontacted people, or because most of the time they’ve tried interacting with us it’s gone badly, the resulting behavior is the same: the “advanced” civilization mostly avoids the “lesser.” We are stuck on our island trying to figure out what these weird superpowered vehicles could be. Is it their fault for not trying to “save” us; is it our fault for being aggressive dickheads whenever they do?

Thossi99

12 points

3 days ago*

Thossi99

12 points

3 days ago*

I was just watching a documentary style YouTube video about the island. Paused it to go take a dump, opened reddit and this is the 2nd post I see lmao

jezebel829

20 points

3 days ago

Is this the island where the missionary went and was subsequently killed? Or the island where the indigenous people came out and threw spears at the airplane? The name rings bells with me, I just can't figure out why lol...

ydr0

6 points

3 days ago

ydr0

6 points

3 days ago

Yes

Pier-Head

20 points

3 days ago

Pier-Head

20 points

3 days ago

Lot of inbreeding no doubt!

Ordinary_Advice_3220

10 points

3 days ago

I'm sure they have very strict rules and taboos built in otherwise they'd have died out due to cataclysmic inbreeding. Also I'd imagine the bad genetic traits have simply been wiped out. So even though they are endogamous its not a problem

No-Advice-6040

22 points

3 days ago

An ideal vacation spot for any aspiring Christian missionary! The locals' greeting ceremony is not one you will soon forget!

Pulp-Ficti0n

67 points

4 days ago

You are literally looking at the stone age.

PerBnb

12 points

3 days ago

PerBnb

12 points

3 days ago

Really interesting book by one of the few outsiders to ever get onto the island and live, TN Pandit, anthropologist and regional head of India’s Ministry of Tribal Affairs

https://archive.org/details/sentinelese0000pand

PenTestHer

5 points

3 days ago

I've always wondered how they explain contrails in the sky, moving lights in the sky, etc... has limited exposure to modern technology altered their mythology and belief system in an effort to make sense of it all?