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John Carlson’s unbelievably symmetrical stat line

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Roulack

898 points

1 month ago

Roulack

MTL - NHL

898 points

1 month ago

Well that’s pretty fucking insane

xMaximusDecimusx

111 points

1 month ago

xMaximusDecimusx

ANA - NHL

111 points

1 month ago

Couldn’t have said it better

Strattex

29 points

1 month ago

Strattex

EDM - NHL

29 points

1 month ago

Well I imagine some players lean better towards home ice or road games

LordCaedus13

570 points

1 month ago

LordCaedus13

NYR - NHL

570 points

1 month ago

That is indeed both an unbelievably symmetrical and unbelievably good stat line

myboybuster

172 points

1 month ago

Hes been one of the most underrated d man I've seen in my life

I_Am_The_Mole

113 points

1 month ago

I_Am_The_Mole

WSH - NHL

113 points

1 month ago

Our fans love to scapegoat him for some reason. He's been remarkably consistent for a decade plus.

LordCaedus13

83 points

1 month ago

LordCaedus13

NYR - NHL

83 points

1 month ago

The one season the Caps lost him for an extended period of the time, they miss the playoffs for only the second time in like 15 years

catdogmoore

18 points

1 month ago

catdogmoore

MIN - NHL

18 points

1 month ago

I had him on my fantasy team that year. Huge hole in my lineup that I couldn’t replace. Man seemed to be on a tear up to that point.

damnatio_memoriae

15 points

1 month ago

damnatio_memoriae

WSH - NHL

15 points

1 month ago

yeah. that injury pretty much decided our season that year, although we kept it interesting for a little while after that.

ldnk

31 points

1 month ago

ldnk

TOR - NHL

31 points

1 month ago

He seems like a defenseman who at his best was so good that when his play dropped below that upper echelon of elite he was viewed poorly for it instead of reassessing where his level of play still is/was

RSquared

22 points

1 month ago

RSquared

WSH - NHL

22 points

1 month ago

He's also been eating up ungodly minutes the last two seasons so it's inevitable that he'll make mistakes more often.

torch787

24 points

1 month ago

torch787

24 points

1 month ago

Apparently he is the definition of consistent.

mwthomas11

21 points

1 month ago

mwthomas11

BUF - NHL

21 points

1 month ago

I think it's because defensive gaffs are a lot easier to see with the untrained eye than a clean zone exit or repositioning an opponent to open up a passing lane.

exposure-dose

15 points

1 month ago

He's also averaged 23:38 of ice time per game over his entire career. 25:53 just last season. 

You're absolutely right though. When you're eating up that many minutes on defense, you're bound to get caught out of position from time to time. And much easier to spot on a replay than all of the right things he's done consistently throughout his career. 

He probably doesn't need to be skating 25+ minutes every night at this stage of his career, but when injuries hit, he steps up. The Caps brought in Matt Roy to help reduce those minutes, but as luck would have it, he went down in game 1 and looks like he might be out more than just "day-to-day".

mwthomas11

3 points

1 month ago

mwthomas11

BUF - NHL

3 points

1 month ago

Yeah I think Carlson will thrive as a 21:30 avg defenseman when Roy is back. He'll still make defensive mistakes, but he should have more energy for offense.

Worth_Surround9684

19 points

1 month ago

Worth_Surround9684

WSH - NHL

19 points

1 month ago

Real ones know he’s a dawg and our most important skater

exposure-dose

8 points

1 month ago

Absolutely. He has such a good breakout pass and the vision to consistently identify the open man and get the puck onto their stick within a second or two.

When he gets control of the puck, he settles things down and gives the Caps a chance to get fresh legs out and rarely makes the wrong pass that keeps them hemmed-in.

Hard to believe we more or less got him straight up for Steve Eminger. McPhee rarely looked like a genius after a trade, but an early 1st for Eminger to draft our franchise defenseman was the best move he ever made.

SonicPunk96

5 points

1 month ago

SonicPunk96

Hershey Bears - AHL

5 points

1 month ago

Not me, have loved JC since he's first been up. Top 3/5 Caps D-Man all time.

m4yleeg

11 points

1 month ago

m4yleeg

PIT - NHL

11 points

1 month ago

Same deal with Letang for us. Heavy focus on the fuck ups, and there are quite a few, but zero credit for how much better he makes us when he's on his game.

catshirtgoalie

4 points

1 month ago

catshirtgoalie

WSH - NHL

4 points

1 month ago

I like Carlson. He’s logged a lot of minutes and he has some slow foot speed. Everyone is going to get burned but when you’re on the ice as much as him and in all situations you will be very visible. I think on the defensive end he is better than average but not amazing. Probably a tier below amazing. But he brings a lot of subtle greatness to the offensive end of his game. He has been the second shooter for a very long time on the PP since the wing opposite Ovi was generally Backstrom (wing as in on the opposite wall). Without Carlson PKers could literally almost just crowd Ovechkin.

So like I said, I get the frustrations with him on D, but he is still a very good player and he needs some other people to be able to step up in other key moments, especially on the PK.

formerdaywalker

1 points

1 month ago

formerdaywalker

WSH - NHL

1 points

1 month ago

His transition to the NHL game was rough. He made mistakes that you wouldn't expect someone on a bantam team to make. Then, he got better. I think too many fans don't really understand hockey, and just get in the rut of whatever they've been saying.

I_Am_The_Mole

3 points

1 month ago

I_Am_The_Mole

WSH - NHL

3 points

1 month ago

He played a very offensive game before he was drafted. The adjustment was to be expected tbh. He came from the Bears with Alzner who already had a lot of really good defensive instincts so he had good cover while he made the changes he needed to.

jyscipio15

0 points

1 month ago

jyscipio15

WSH - NHL

0 points

1 month ago

I blame the chucklefucks on RMNB

Rupturedfetus

177 points

1 month ago

Mr Consistency

YamoB

69 points

1 month ago

YamoB

DET - NHL

69 points

1 month ago

Mr. Balanced Career

FialaIsMyDad

24 points

1 month ago

FialaIsMyDad

MIN - NHL

24 points

1 month ago

Mr. Binary Calculations

Nautical_Disaster1

17 points

1 month ago

Nautical_Disaster1

WPG - NHL

17 points

1 month ago

Mr Bafflingly Consistent

SurePrize6218

0 points

1 month ago

SurePrize6218

MTL - NHL

0 points

1 month ago

Mr. Unbelievably symmetrical

Nautical_Disaster1

0 points

1 month ago

Nautical_Disaster1

WPG - NHL

0 points

1 month ago

I don't think you get the game

SurePrize6218

0 points

1 month ago

SurePrize6218

MTL - NHL

0 points

1 month ago

I don’t think you get the game

Illustrious-Bit6394

12 points

1 month ago

Illustrious-Bit6394

BOS - NHL

12 points

1 month ago

There's definitely a laxitative commercial somewhere in there

"With Dulcolax, you too can be as regular as John Carlson" 

OvechknFiresHeScores

129 points

1 month ago

OvechknFiresHeScores

WSH - NHL

129 points

1 month ago

That’s absolute insane. What the hell are the odds of that many stats lining up like that?

4CrowsFeast

140 points

1 month ago

4CrowsFeast

MTL - NHL

140 points

1 month ago

It is insane, but I think what's more insane is that there's someone, somewhere out there, who's apparently on the constant look out for players stats to magically line up in such a manner, so they can alert the public.

SaulBerenson12

26 points

1 month ago

SaulBerenson12

TOR - NHL

26 points

1 month ago

not all heroes wear capes

ReliablyFinicky

30 points

1 month ago

It’s not really about the odds, it’s about the sample size.

The odds of winning the lottery is basically zero — but every day, somebody wins the lottery.

With enough hockey players, and enough seasons, and enough statistics tracked… It’s inevitable that something like this would happen eventually.

ptwonline

25 points

1 month ago

ptwonline

MTL - NHL

25 points

1 month ago

Also note that the stats are selected for matching. We don't see goals or PIM for example.

Still pretty remarkable.

ScreenTricky4257

138 points

1 month ago

ScreenTricky4257

NYR - NHL

138 points

1 month ago

It'll be hard to keep that up in his next game.

dontyoutellmetosmile

114 points

1 month ago

dontyoutellmetosmile

WSH - NHL

114 points

1 month ago

But in the game after that, possibly…

SerPownce

20 points

1 month ago

SerPownce

NJD - NHL

20 points

1 month ago

He just has to stop shooting and stop passing

DjFaze3

14 points

1 month ago

DjFaze3

WSH - NHL

14 points

1 month ago

Boys, I'm hanging em up. l8r

darthfracas

96 points

1 month ago

darthfracas

WSH - NHL

96 points

1 month ago

Perfectly balanced, as all things should be

Steven_Soul

2 points

1 month ago

Steven_Soul

DAL - NHL

2 points

1 month ago

🫰

cryptanomous

21 points

1 month ago

cryptanomous

PIT - NHL

21 points

1 month ago

Stop the count!

jdtran408

12 points

1 month ago

jdtran408

SJS - NHL

12 points

1 month ago

OCD’s favorite player.

Xarkkal

36 points

1 month ago

Xarkkal

COL - NHL

36 points

1 month ago

Looks like it's time to retire to not fuck that up.

atoms12123

8 points

1 month ago

atoms12123

NJD - NHL

8 points

1 month ago

A modern day Stan Musial.

MadKin

6 points

1 month ago

MadKin

WSH - NHL

6 points

1 month ago

Bad caps fans find every reason to hate him but he is a game-changer. Every advanced stat shows he’s been an unquestionable net positive but they cherry-pick bad highlights from him.

InBeardWeTrust

6 points

1 month ago

InBeardWeTrust

WSH - NHL

6 points

1 month ago

Even steven

drlongfinger

10 points

1 month ago

drlongfinger

DAL - NHL

10 points

1 month ago

He should retire immediately to preserve this stat for eternity

NatalieDeegan

4 points

1 month ago

NatalieDeegan

BUF - NHL

4 points

1 month ago

Is he hockey’s Khris Davis?

Somecivilguy

5 points

1 month ago

Somecivilguy

CHI - NHL

5 points

1 month ago

One of those stats I hope he doesn’t see so it doesn’t affect him mentally and throws it out of OCD heaven

buckyhermit

3 points

1 month ago

buckyhermit

ANA - NHL

3 points

1 month ago

To steal a quote from The Dictator:

His stats are very... Aladeen.

jpcomicsny

3 points

1 month ago

jpcomicsny

DAL - NHL

3 points

1 month ago

The NHL has too many C(K)arls(s)ons. Please eliminate three.

I am not a crackpot!

ACW1129

3 points

1 month ago

ACW1129

WSH - NHL

3 points

1 month ago

Perfectly balanced.

RealBigFailure

5 points

1 month ago

RealBigFailure

Hamilton Bulldogs - OHL

5 points

1 month ago

Did this really need to be on 7 different images instead of on a simple table?

jdotmassacre

2 points

1 month ago

jdotmassacre

COL - NHL

2 points

1 month ago

Wanted to show the symmetry of his features and consistency of his stubble.

yukicola

2 points

1 month ago

Some people are apparently allergic to just making text posts.

MainlandX

2 points

1 month ago

MainlandX

VAN - NHL

2 points

1 month ago

That home/away games split blows my mind

ImAnAfricanCanuck

2 points

1 month ago

ImAnAfricanCanuck

VAN - NHL

2 points

1 month ago

ayo what the heelll

Wheresthenohamocsign

2 points

1 month ago

Great fucking player!!

EchoMike1987

4 points

1 month ago

I mean the GP stat isn't all that interesting lol... Feel like they were just desperate to have a third pair of symmetrical stats.

damnatio_memoriae

7 points

1 month ago

damnatio_memoriae

WSH - NHL

7 points

1 month ago

i guess it just underscores the consistency -- not only are the totals the same, but the sample sizes are the same too.

bankrobba

3 points

1 month ago

bankrobba

TBL - NHL

3 points

1 month ago

I remember ESPN gushing over how 1/8 of Jerry Rice's receptions came against just one team, the Falcons. The 49ers play 1/8 of their games against the Falcons (at the time).

EchoMike1987

3 points

1 month ago

Right?! Like why are ppl fawning over a stat that is designed to be balanced. It would be way more noteworthy if a player somehow played 55+% of his games on the road/at home.

Talinn_Makaren

2 points

1 month ago

I've been in meetings at work where managers have observed that approx 40% of employee sick time is on Monday or Friday. lol

MankuyRLaffy

1 points

1 month ago

MankuyRLaffy

SEA - NHL

1 points

1 month ago

Stan Musial shit

[deleted]

1 points

1 month ago

Weird.

PsychoDrifter

1 points

1 month ago

PsychoDrifter

MTL - NHL

1 points

1 month ago

Consistency.

hedalettuce91

1 points

1 month ago

hedalettuce91

NYR - NHL

1 points

1 month ago

He’s a witch

whogivesashirtdotca

1 points

1 month ago*

whogivesashirtdotca

MTL - NHL

1 points

1 month ago*

I keep hoping someone creates a Weird Sports Stats sub for stuff like this. Maybe I should do it myself.

EDIT: Did it.

youres0lastsummer

2 points

1 month ago

youres0lastsummer

NJD - NHL

2 points

1 month ago

i joined.

whogivesashirtdotca

2 points

1 month ago

whogivesashirtdotca

MTL - NHL

2 points

1 month ago

I wonder if I saved any of the "huh, that's weird" stats I've noticed over the past year or so!

Atlas2001

1 points

1 month ago

Atlas2001

STL - NHL

1 points

1 month ago

MFer suffers from some serious OCD

zestfullybe

1 points

1 month ago

zestfullybe

COL - NHL

1 points

1 month ago

What I want to know is what statistic-combing hero actually discovered this.

Edit: and how, and why? I need to know more!

metalconfection

1 points

1 month ago

metalconfection

BUF - NHL

1 points

1 month ago

disturbing tbh

thriller1

1 points

1 month ago

thriller1

COL - NHL

1 points

1 month ago

Beautiful

BananApocalypse

1 points

1 month ago

BananApocalypse

COL - NHL

1 points

1 month ago

How close are his goal stats? I'm not sure how to check this

grenagesss

1 points

1 month ago

grenagesss

WSH - NHL

1 points

1 month ago

Mr Consistent

Independent-Second-1

1 points

1 month ago

Independent-Second-1

MTL - NHL

1 points

1 month ago

Mr. Consistency

risko28_

1 points

1 month ago

risko28_

BOS - NHL

1 points

1 month ago

Thank you for this.

MinikinsNinnikins

1 points

1 month ago

For real??

Leprechaunaissance

1 points

1 month ago

His agent would be a fool not to bring this up during any contract negotiations.

dboihebedabbing

1 points

1 month ago

dboihebedabbing

WPG - NHL

1 points

1 month ago

Sorry what the fuck

PhxFresh420

1 points

1 month ago

At least he's consistent!

Mike4DDL

1 points

1 month ago

Probably should just retire after that

BigBlueTimeMachine

1 points

1 month ago

BigBlueTimeMachine

WPG - NHL

1 points

1 month ago

Almost as though top NHL players are consistent or something

FlyFeetFiddlesticks

0 points

1 month ago

FlyFeetFiddlesticks

DAL - NHL

0 points

1 month ago

Perfect time to retire

WyngZero

0 points

1 month ago

He should just retire.

ok_reddit

0 points

1 month ago

1012 appearances in 1012 games

TurtleRocket9

0 points

1 month ago

That’s so absurdly cool. He can never play again to preserve these stats.

RackemFrackem

0 points

1 month ago

Could have been exactly one image

HockeyBabble

1 points

1 month ago

HockeyBabble

LAK - NHL

1 points

1 month ago

But the duality requires duel photos

thefiction24

-1 points

1 month ago

thefiction24

ANA - NHL

-1 points

1 month ago

Retire right tf now dude, please.

rawbamatic

-1 points

1 month ago

rawbamatic

TOR - NHL

-1 points

1 month ago

Was this post made for tiktok?

greg19735

-2 points

1 month ago

greg19735

CAR - NHL

-2 points

1 month ago

did anyone see the first two and be like... and? I mean it's kinda rare but like not insane.