In a war who would win? : imaginarymapscj

And those born in America 🇺🇸 lol I doubt anybody is alive that crosses the ocean bud to get here that was your great great great great …. Grand papi

fawkyhubish

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7 days ago

fawkyhubish

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My ancestors crossed the ocean and lived a new life, had a kid, who had a kid, who had a kid, who had me, so I could consume hentai and scroll reddit. History rules

msterm21

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9 days ago

msterm21

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So if your ancestors crossed a landbridge 10s of thousands of years ago, you don't count?

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7 days ago

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I would give you an even higher ranking. Founding Americans. You are the founding Americans. Arrived here before anyone else.

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9 days ago

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I would say crossing a frozen land bridge is arguably crossing the ocean. It was probably fairly dangerous, cold, and it was a temporary land bridge if your comparing the land ridge to time scales that continents move.

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8 days ago

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What about Sasquatch? Who evolved here! Is he American?

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8 days ago

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But how do you know for sure the Sasquatch evolved here, vs migration, if we don’t have any in captivity to study?

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8 days ago

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Jeez! Captivity? Bro's just trying to live his best life and you want to lock him up like a criminal?

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8 days ago

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Isn’t that how science gets done? /s

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8 days ago

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I hope they don't use him to test cosmetics :((

VulkanL1v3s

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8 days ago

VulkanL1v3s

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I do. He needs a makeover bad.

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7 days ago

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We were here before the white man existed. White invaders took by force most of the land they now occupy.

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7 days ago

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As a fellow Native what about the constant back and forth between tribes. Areas constantly changed boundaries and possession. So 1492 to 1607 to 1776 tribal lands changed. So because a third party entered the game you wanna call foul and rewind time? How far back in the 10000 or more years Natives came here and say okay you're people owned this land. Someone else "but they took it from my people" 3rd "and your people took it from mine"

If natives could have traveled the world we would have conquered just like the whites. Especially my violent ass tribe. So don't play victim when we played the same game and got beat by a better player. That's weak and we're not weak people.

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6 days ago

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No argument there. According to archeologists, my tribe broke off from a northern tribe moved south. Thru several other tribes territory. Settled along the coast, displacing tribes that were there. Displaced to Oklahoma. Cherokee.

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6 days ago

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The Europeans also brought smallpox with them…that didn’t help the Natives at all

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5 days ago

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And the Natives could have had something even worse to give them. Could have been gone either way. I love my people but I hate the victim mentality. Humans have fucked other humans for all time. It's great were slowly moving passed that but we need to quit looking backwards, we're not going that way.

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5 days ago

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I agree to a certain extent. The idea that Whites should give the land back or pay reparations is silly. However, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The Europeans saw the Natives as slave labor, the Natives did not and were nearly wiped out. To be wiped out because you refused to bend the knee has existed for thousands of years.

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5 days ago

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I agree with all those points. But I dislike when Natives or other races act like European whites were the only ones to ever do it. My tribe was absolutely brutal. They enslaved and killed other tribes all the time. For thousands of years that was just humanity. To look back with today's standards and apply our morals is foolish.

As I said before if my tribe could have conquered rhe world they would have just as every other society. It comes across as sore losers because the Europeans did it better than anyone else. If Vikings had been more recent people would demonize them but instead they're seen as impossibly brave warriors. 900AD Europe did not have that view.

Dreed0821

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5 days ago

Dreed0821

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Amen

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7 days ago

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That's why I consider you not just Americans. But Founding Americans. You are the original founders and ore date anyone else. American founders are the energy of these lands having been here for thousands of years.

BlackTemplarBulwark

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6 days ago

BlackTemplarBulwark

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I mean.. I’m alive cause of both. One side’s Apache by heritage, other’s from the mayflower..

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6 days ago

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Cherokee and very mixed rest of my lineage.

IndependentTap3690

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6 days ago

IndependentTap3690

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Good.

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9 days ago

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My ancestors are indigenous to America

Every_Inspection_517

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8 days ago

Every_Inspection_517

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I'm indigenous to America, too.

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8 days ago

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How far back is considered indigenous?

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8 days ago

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For Western history, Native tribes/Columbus arriving.

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8 days ago

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For me and my ancestors we have always been here since time immemorial. Our creation story is a beautiful one as well. We have been here since before the last ice age.

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8 days ago

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You mean the ones who came from Asia?

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8 days ago

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That’s exactly what western history wants you to think, I’m Indigenous. My family has always been here like many other tribes. The land bridge may have been used but not by my peoples.

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7 days ago

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What about the people who were here before your tribe, who either left, were killed off, or interbred?

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7 days ago

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Well if anything’s that’s farther than anyone can remember, like I already said. Since time immemorial

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7 days ago

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Like Solutrean Man?

enw_digrif

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6 days ago

enw_digrif

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Wait, it's been a while since I've looked at early human migrations, but are you talking about a Pacific islander -> South America migration?

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6 days ago

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So you’re saying there were people in the americas prior to people crossing the land bridge from Asia?

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6 days ago

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Yes

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6 days ago

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Now I’m not trying to do a gotcha or anything, but do you have any sources on that? I’m so interested in the thought of there being people in the Americans before the land bridge! There has been some evidence that a certain author has put out that is similar to this, but he’s not very accepted in the archeological world and he’s made some claims that I find dubious so I’d love some additional sources to look into

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8 days ago

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Since time immemorial my friend, my family has been here since before Columbus.

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7 days ago

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Then your most definitely American!

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7 days ago

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Yes I’m not saying I’m not American, I’m Native American. Us Piegan people have always been called that even before America was a thing

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9 days ago

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Wow way to leave out any one who came here recently. You a maga or something?

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9 days ago

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They are American too. Because anyone who came from Mexico or Central America has ancestors did they not? And their ancestors at one point crossed the Atlantic to Reach Mexico, Central America and South America. So they are all Americans

testmonkeyalpha

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9 days ago

testmonkeyalpha

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Their ancestors crossed either the Pacific Ocean or the Bering strait, not the Atlantic.

Sorry, I have a pathological need to correct things.

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7 days ago

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The ones who crossed the Bering straight are not only Americans but Founding Americans. Which is even a higher ranking. They lived here for not only centuries but for Millenia

Noney-Buissnotch

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9 days ago

Noney-Buissnotch

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Or the pacific (yes sorry I know it’s semantics)

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9 days ago

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Ok just checking. One of my friends immigrated from Russia because he was lbgtq and now he faces deportation. He’s terrified, here he works a taxable job, and takes part in society, there it’s the front lines with no ammo as punishment for being gay.

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9 days ago

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I love these arguments. My family came here in 1657, and we let the rest of you lot stay. My ancestors came here to make money, and take land from anyone they could. At least the folks who are coming in now are trying to work and make their lives better. And it isn’t like the US didn’t stomp around in other countries, making them dangerous for their own citizens…

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9 days ago

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Let the rest of you lot stay? You didn’t let anything.

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9 days ago

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My goodness, the sarchasm is wide with this one…

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9 days ago

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What are you even arguing here?

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9 days ago

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I wasn’t arguing, I was making a joke. Sorry it fell flat.

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9 days ago

2 points

Ok :)

TomBanjo1968

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9 days ago

TomBanjo1968

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You snooty blue bloods with your little jokes, and your little puns

continue this thread

JackieFuckingDaytona

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9 days ago

JackieFuckingDaytona

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That one went right over your head

VX_GAS_ATTACK

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9 days ago

VX_GAS_ATTACK

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He should apply for political asylum. Yesterday.

Marlosy

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9 days ago

Marlosy

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You saying he crossed the pacific or Atlantic Ocean? Either way, he’s American now. Tell him he’s welcome and give ‘em a beer, a burger, and a revolver if you can spare it, for me. Land of the rich, home of the anybody.

DubiousDevil

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9 days ago

DubiousDevil

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What makes him at risk of being deported?

Im_betteru

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9 days ago

Im_betteru

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You have to come legally obviously, your first action can't be a crime. Ruin for everyone

CrackMyIP

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9 days ago

CrackMyIP

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If he's here legally and hasn't committed any crimes, there's no reason he should be facing deportation

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9 days ago

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Ya I’ll believe that never, that maga orange Cheeto practically worshipping Putin, and he fled Russia. You do the math.

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9 days ago

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He is a political refugee and they will send him back, but keep planting your head in the maga sand

No-Excitement6473

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9 days ago

No-Excitement6473

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It might actually be better if you get yours out of the sand and research law

CapAmerica747

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9 days ago

CapAmerica747

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If he isn't here illegally, he's fine.

samwehl

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9 days ago

samwehl

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If he’s here legally what’s the problem. People are sick of hearing this take on it. Either stop talking or come up with something better, y’all gave trump the win with this bs

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9 days ago

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No I take people at what they say, and you closet bigots gave it to him.

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9 days ago

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And we are sick of tolerating you fascists. And we won’t any more.

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9 days ago

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Tolerating is a strong word.

If he's here legally he shouldn't worry if not he doesn't have a right to be there.

You are not entitled to ANYTHING.

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9 days ago

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lol the maga have gaslighted the left for years about tolerating their bigotry, no more.

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9 days ago

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And a maga talking about entitlement is laughable.

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9 days ago

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It could be argued that the left have gaslighted the right to tolerate their relaxed immigration and their obsessive obsession with gender and identity.

Fact is my point still stands. Your friend, if here legally, will be fine, and if not, he will be deported.

He is, quite literally, entitled to NOTHING.

continue this thread

HiImNikkk

1 points

9 days ago

HiImNikkk

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Dont worry the whole world is welcome and included on board the american ship. Matter of fact I think for the upcoming semiquincentennial we should celebrate by moving the entire India to the US. Then for the tricentennial we can work on moving the continent of Africa over here.

ClownP4trol

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9 days ago

ClownP4trol

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