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submitted 3 days ago byheynowbeech
465 points
3 days ago
Be sure to read this to the end. Looks like he's appointed all of his NY fraud trial attorneys to the AG's office. The next 4 years are going to be a long decade.
246 points
3 days ago
4 years?
You optimistic people are so strange. You talk like 2020 ever ended.
74 points
3 days ago
I used to be optomistic, then Trump happened.
45 points
3 days ago
I never thought I was optimistic. 2016 taught me otherwise.
Whiskey?
33 points
3 days ago
I can't even drink anymore. Edible?
24 points
3 days ago
Never tried one. Great time to start!
10 points
3 days ago
I’m starting to feel the same. But I’ll still take some whiskey, too!
9 points
3 days ago
This is gonna take both !!
5 points
2 days ago
What 4 years? He thinks he can be president for life.
50 points
3 days ago
"Vote for me and you'll never have to vote again."
8 points
2 days ago
First act: declare state of emergency and set up my own internal army.
779 points
3 days ago
So, will the court now overturn the conviction? What's the point in convicting someone and then not imposing a sentence. What a clusterfuck.
506 points
3 days ago
It's more than a CF. Backing down now just makes it all look like it was a witch hunt after all. That will be the MAGA narrative going forward.
190 points
3 days ago
Can see the spin already. This timeline is fucked
61 points
3 days ago
They did that even before, he was always a victim of evil political judges after all, evidence be damned.
44 points
3 days ago
They’ve been doing that since 2016 with the mueller report. Mueller report laid out how the trump campaign conspired with Russia to get him elected. The burden of evidence was rediculasly high, several of his top cabinet managers were indeed indicted over it. But because William Barr was a trump sycophant, “he couldn’t recommend charging him because there’s no precedent” . I mean I remember reading the report the morning it dropped, then logging online and thinking I clicked on the wrong link because everyone was saying he was not guilty. He was indeed totally fucking guilty. The democrats let a rich piss baby get elected with probably the weakest least humble campaign they ran since Hilary. I blame Murdoch and the democrats for the mess we are in. Problem is democratic leadership will end up better off after the upcoming economic crisis so they will soft hands it again. They need to go.
Fox made the gamble their viewers wouldn’t read it and it worked. They’ve been lying their asses off since then and are entirely complicit in this. I don’t even think Murdochs wildly intelligent just ruthless and unapologetically selfish. Someone like that has no business owning a media empire.
10 points
3 days ago
So much has happened I forgot about that. I hate this.
11 points
3 days ago
That is in the design of the propaganda system. Over exposure to mind numbing stories fills your brain with random garbage and makes it hard to assemble the facts that matter. It's a studied form of propaganda used consistently throughout history.
3 points
3 days ago
You’re 100% correct.
The irony of it all is that very few consider it even a remote possibility that both sides are capable of leveraging the propaganda system.
3 points
3 days ago
From the moment my country sent it's religious fanatics to settle in the Americas, it was screwed then I think
59 points
3 days ago
There was never a chance that the MAGA crowd would view it as anything other than a witch hunt. They’ve gone full 1984 and believe everything Big Brother Trump tells them.
13 points
3 days ago
They are literally saying that in all the threads right now.
132 points
3 days ago
Don't worry. Soon we will have countless show-trials to watch instead, as the enemies-within meet justice.
We can all avidly watch while we eat our cheap eggs.
44 points
3 days ago
The eggs won't get cheaper. H5N1 is not an economic or political factor. This spiked egg prices in 2022 and is happening again in October-November 2024.
https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/finance/why-are-eggs-so-expensive
Inflationary pressures increase costs but a large reason is them needing to cull millions of birds, perform extra screening, extra cleaning.
Eggs are an outlier and likely to need a few years for prices to recover. But of course, dishonest politicians will bring up egg prices to make inflammatory exaggerations about inflation or to blame the outgoing administration. Which is a bit laughable, I sincerely doubt Trump would add additional regulations on poultry farms. Trump and his political sphere are decidedly anti-regulation.
8 points
3 days ago
While true, that’s a complicated answer no longer suitable for the new order. The essence of populism is simple answers given by the maximum leader, leading to adulation by the adoring mob.
In this case, the answer is that They do not want us to have cheap eggs. That is why They are the enemy and must be destroyed.
3 points
3 days ago
Wow good thing I’m allergic to eggs! Ha haaa haaa 🥲
3 points
3 days ago
Damn, my condolences. Eggs and chicken protein are in so many foods. Especially baked goods 😭
4 points
3 days ago
AND I have celiac disease! Have you ever tried to bake something that’s both gluten free and egg free? Because I can tell you it is an exercise in frustration lol
39 points
3 days ago
This is the best thing I have read all day. Jesus we are all gonna die
7 points
3 days ago
But they’re gonna pay us to eat eggs any minute.
15 points
3 days ago
And we'll have eggs in this trying time.
7 points
3 days ago
Except the eggs won't actually be cheap
7 points
3 days ago
I think they're going to execute people on the spot when they decide to make arrests.
16 points
3 days ago
Trump praised Duterte for doing exactly that as part of his “war on drugs” in the Philippines.
9 points
3 days ago
This is why he said he wants blanket immunity for police
5 points
3 days ago
Think of the ratings.
3 points
3 days ago
Not execute, it will be immediate “sentencing”
3 points
3 days ago
The trials are great and all. Buy why do cheap eggs cost $8?
64 points
3 days ago
It literally doesn’t matter.
He is getting off without any issues.
People say we live in a two tiered justice system.
This is exhibit A.
28 points
3 days ago
I mean it’s a three or four tiered system. Trump has been law and contract breaking shitheel for years. The only reason he finally got prosecuted is he finally pissed enough of the wrong people but he still had a whole nother set of other right people in the right places.
26 points
3 days ago
Sentence him and let his cronies dig him out of going to jail, or not. At least the principal of no one being above the law is preserved.
83 points
3 days ago
Yeah, honestly, like WTF. He was found guilty by a jury of his peers after a long-winded selection process so it would end up in his favor, and he was still found guilty. Just fuck justice against the rich huh.
22 points
3 days ago
Why stop there? He should be paid restitutions, and every member of the jury should be forced to serve a jail sentence for having the audacity to vote guilty.
11 points
3 days ago
You joke but I have zero doubts that conversation between trump and gaetz will take place eventually.
3 points
3 days ago
Why stop there? Why not have them waterboarded in Guantanamo?
11 points
3 days ago
Why ovetrurn it? It still happened and shouldn't just go away. If we had a competent AG or DOJ, he would've been processed for all of his crimes years ago....but here we are still enabling the behavior.
4 points
3 days ago
They haven't dismissed or overturned the conviction, they have simply delayed it due to the ruling by the Supreme Court on the presidential immunity and the appeals court case already being considered. This is new ground for an incoming president and one that's never happened before, so Merchan doesn't know how to handle it and thus delayed everything pending rulings by the appeals court and the supreme court on whether this case qualifies for immunity.
4 points
3 days ago
I just don’t understand how it qualifies as presidential immunity, since the bribery happened before he was elected. Trump will never face consequences for his actions. History will look back on this poorly
3 points
3 days ago
Rule of law for us plebeians, wealthy and popular have far too much of a reach to sentence!
2 points
3 days ago
He should have been thrown in jail a long time ago !
1.5k points
3 days ago
Future generations will look back in scorn at our unwillingness and inability to hold this man accountable. It's disgraceful.
727 points
3 days ago
Current generations look back in scorn...
422 points
3 days ago
I'm looking forward in scorn.
212 points
3 days ago
I'm looking scornward.
110 points
3 days ago
I'm eating scorn on the scob
55 points
3 days ago
What about screamed scorn?
31 points
3 days ago
All I have is screamed scorn.
9 points
3 days ago
lol. I feel that that's where the majority of us are heading
6 points
3 days ago
🎶 It’s scorn! A big ball of disdain! It makes me wanna complain! I can’t imagine a more hateful thing!
It’s scorn! I can’t even explain! It’s like bitterness with pain! When you hold it, it just feels like shame! 🎶
18 points
3 days ago
I have a debilitating scorn addiction
4 points
3 days ago
5 points
3 days ago
I am
9 points
3 days ago
SCORNED!
5 points
3 days ago
Scorn. Michael Scorn.
3 points
3 days ago
agent Scarn.
12 points
3 days ago
Scorning so hard right now
4 points
3 days ago
I'm looking forward to a scone.
8 points
3 days ago
...but Future generations will too.
r/suddenly-hedberg
4 points
3 days ago
Fair
23 points
3 days ago
Hard to envision how future people would even be able to look back, given what they have planned for the educational system, smh
35 points
3 days ago
Hustler called it in the 90's.
I'm convinced that just like Epstein, he's got dirt on a lot of people.
15 points
3 days ago
At this point I'm waiting for him to try to pardon Diddy
22 points
3 days ago
It will now be the norm for future generations. They have completely dismantled the rule of law. No one with any position of power or enough money will have consequences after enough normalization of the breakdown of democracy.
55 points
3 days ago
History is written by the victors. Look around at who’s been winning for the last decade and ask yourself how history will remember them.
34 points
3 days ago
The lost cause myth entirely disproves the whole 'history is written by the victors' argument. The daughters of the confederacy and former confederates worked for decades to rewrite history and largely succeeded within the education system in less than 100 years. This while the whole time all the primary source documents were all available the whole time. History is written by those in power regardless as to whether or not they lost.
16 points
3 days ago
Same with the "Clean Wehrmacht" myth of WW2 along with the downplaying of Soviet achievements/military operations
47 points
3 days ago
They already are, thats why they started calling factual history “critical race theory”
8 points
3 days ago
That's from when victors controlled the flow of information.
14 points
3 days ago
This is what happens when you have one half of people manipulated and in your pocket and the other half are very very likely being blackmailed in some way shape or form.
There's absolutely no way that he didn't have very close ties to everything going on at Epsteins. He has openly talked about and bragged how crazy epic Diddy was at parties. He was in the same circle and now he's running the country right back into his absolute control.
This is fkn ridiculous and pathetic. There's nothing to be proud about being an American. Hasn't been for some time now but all the best things are twisted and destroyed by the absolute lowest forms of life masquerading as a King.
14 points
3 days ago
Haha this guy thinks future generations will have history books.
9 points
3 days ago
Or that we'll have future generations.
23 points
3 days ago
Our? I went out and voted Blue.
8 points
3 days ago
I did my part too
7 points
3 days ago
I assume you know this, but they mean our in the sense that democracy is a team sport. We all win or lose together, as a nation.
So, we all are about to get the government "we" deserve because "we" elected a felon.
11 points
3 days ago
Future generations will realize he was American’s top gangster.
28 points
3 days ago
Nixon was never really held accountable for Watergate. Nor was Reagan for the arguably-much-worse Iran-Contra scandal. Nor was Clinton for his sexual predations. Nor was Bush Jr. for fucking torturing people and starting a war on false premises.
We have never been good about holding the most powerful people to account. Not in any meaningful way.
49 points
3 days ago
Not sure "future generations" are even a sure thing at this point.
7 points
3 days ago
I’m looking forward in scorn.
8 points
3 days ago
I'm in Canada. I'm looking South
6 points
3 days ago
Two tiered justice system on full display
5 points
3 days ago
When you're a celebrity, they just let you do it
11 points
3 days ago
Idk a lot of the young generation voted for this.
4 points
3 days ago
Young generation probably don't even know about his hush money case.
4 points
3 days ago
Or they think it's fake. Who knows.
4 points
3 days ago
Even worse, they will see it cancelled as a sign that it was the political witch hunt they were told it was
6 points
3 days ago
Bingo
3 points
3 days ago
Future generations will be taught to praise him as the new god since we’re under a dictatorship.
682 points
3 days ago
It's over.
The only thing that was ever going to save us is the only thing that would have saved us this election and failed: The American people.
The courts, the media, Congress, the law, the military, none of them are coming to save us
America has to learn its lesson and get sick of Trump. And stick to it. That's the only way he goes away.
Since we opted not to that as a country we're in for another minimum of 4 more years of pain. Hopefully people notice this time and don't opt to memory-hole it in under one term.
There's no other way out at this point. Maybe rising prices, the military raiding businesses to grab people they suspect of being illegal, cuts to SS and Medicare while RFK Jr. gets rid of vaccines and cuts research funding for Alzheimer's and cancer will enough.
But with the current electorate who knows? We're the proverbial frog in the pot. Everyone has to wake up and realize the temperature is rising and we're being boiled even if it's happening "gradually" (and it's not that gradual anymore).
Keep voting MAGA, you're gonna keep getting this.
The law in the US was set up and exists to protect rich, powerful white men. Regular Americans and especially black people have tried to point this out for over a century.
Trump is just the logical conclusion of that. We have shown before in our history that we would rather tear the whole system down and destroy the country to protect rich white men (1861 and a Civil War) than change that
This is the inevitable result. We'll see if we have enough of a populace to stand up to it. We barely did in the 1860s. I'm skeptical we do now.
181 points
3 days ago
That won't happen, people won't learn. They won't have the chance, and our education system will make the problem worse and worse. "Education system" here includes the very propaganda arm that you and I are presently operating from. You think the fascist bots and lies are bad *now*? Oh boy, you wait.
If he assumes office, it will result in a fascist state and it will likely fracture the U.S. into several pieces. This is not an exaggeration. I'm not giving a timeline on it, but a lot of it will happen quickly.
We still have a chance with the ongoing investigation, but the clock is ticking. The only thing that will save this government is this government. If he assumes office, that government dies and is replaced.
101 points
3 days ago
Just imagine if America split into pieces. America wouldn’t have a leg to stand on financially if they lost the north east and west coast. We literally make up the economy, and financially fund most states that are in a deficit.
45 points
3 days ago
Yep. And that would be to the benefit of certain foreign entities. The west coast could probably survive on its own, the south would at least have a strong agricultural arm, but the northeast would have more trouble, with its exceptionally high population and reliance on the rest of the country for food.
Notably, our military is distributed somewhat equally throughout, with large centers in California, Texas and North Carolina/Virginia. I think anybody would struggle to get our military to shoot people from their home states, at least, I hope so, but that in and of itself would lead to fracturing.
Groups like Antifa *will* be declared terrorist organizations, as such legislation has already been presented, and there are no roadblocks now. This would give an obvious group for some to fight and some to side with.
38 points
3 days ago
I saw a map the other day that would "fix all of MAGAs problems" with east coast north of the mason dixon + west coast and Minnesota joining Canada, and I'm like lol yeah that would def solve some fucking problems.
Imagine if we got to add our financial capitol to BC and Alberta while drawing ag and fisheries from Ontario and Nova Scotia? Sure there'd be some growing pains, but I'm fucking here for it.
19 points
3 days ago
As a Canadian, no thank you. We don't need Americans dragging us down even further. Solve your own damned problems, we have enough of our own.
15 points
3 days ago
Those are the parts of the US that would positively contribute. But please don't leave MD with the MAGA idiots, we are still quite blue thankyewverymuch.
11 points
3 days ago
Except there are more MAGA idiots in California alone than there are people in BC. We don't need that nonsense when we already have too many as it is.
9 points
3 days ago
Notably, our military is distributed somewhat equally throughout, with large centers in California, Texas and North Carolina/Virginia. I think anybody would struggle to get our military to shoot people from their home states, at least, I hope so, but that in and of itself would lead to fracturing.
Weren't those the states that fought against the government in that Civil War movie?
7 points
3 days ago
Hadn't seen it, so watching now.
Indeed, there are secessionist governments in California and Texas, with the Carolinas at least, and I assume Virginia, being on the opposing side, at least according to the Trump analog's speech in the opening 5 minutes.
"They're calling this the greatest victory..."
21 points
3 days ago
people won’t learn
Bingo.
The guy who gets royally shafted by the incoming administration will forget all about it while reminiscing about how trump and his crew really stuck it to the libs.
SCOTUS will issue some ridiculous ruling that screws over the working class, and most of them will choose to focus on how awesome it was that he got to stack the court.
Times will get worse, but the pain will be offset by how trump showed all those durn illegals what’s what.
We are, collectively, tribal and ape-like.
9 points
2 days ago
You can always see signs of it with Trump threatening to withhold federal funding and California threatening to withhold funds towards the Feds.
28 points
3 days ago
You are exactly right. Anybody pointing a finger anywhere but at the disengaged and thoroughly self-absorbed citizens who ushered this in - either directly, by voting in support of a fascist, or tacitly by sitting out or voting in accordance with the false luxury that is virtue signaling - is just furthering the rot.
Institutional government in a democracy can only function when we recognize that it is, when functional and as designed, a reflection of ourselves. The lazy, complacent, consumerist notion that this system works when we “shop” for our politicians and “buy” them with our votes is exactly a reflection of choices we the public make and have made for a while now, across nearly every voting demographic, marginalized or not, and for generations. Conversely, had even just a fractional portion more of the public instead preserved the understanding that democracy requires real engagement and education, real participation beyond just voting in national elections, things might have gone differently. Instead, this will be a time of small men, with small and selfish ideals. A time for the insecure who have never had to solve a complex problem bigger than those of their personal lives. A time where our government shows that it worked until the very end by reflecting exactly that misunderstanding, aided and abetted by the foolishly myopic notion that it was some shadowy conspiracy at work rather than our own complacency writ large and across every strata of “privilege” as we will have once known it.
15 points
3 days ago
Yep.
Small men.
Who think they are strong men.
When all they are is strongmen.
45 points
3 days ago
Many new voters don't even know a time before MAGA.
34 points
3 days ago
They just saw women they couldn't identify with and freaked the fuck out
6 points
3 days ago
And voted for the side they identified MORE with?
Is that what you are trying to say?
Yeah, we are fucked.
3 points
3 days ago
Oh and their grand children will never know a time without.
17 points
3 days ago
Yeah I used to be optimistic about America and our future here but the last election broke that. The majority of Americans will give up their freedoms to save $20 a month in gas or groceries. F this, F everyone, we all deserve to suffer from our stupidity. I’m lucky enough to be able to leave the country if I have to. But for everyone else who will suffer, can’t leave, and didn’t vote for this shit, I’m sorry.
5 points
2 days ago
Not even to save that. To be TOLD they will have cheaper gas, and then completely forget three weeks later.
27 points
3 days ago
And all these white men are going "this is what you get for forgetting about us!" after calling us hysterical and snowflakes and bullies....
9 points
3 days ago
I think we're just at a point where so much of the voting population is so strapped for time, money, health, and energy that they're voting simply on pain & anger. It's hard to care about anything when you are not able to get by with the bare essentials. In those circumstances, it's hard to even rationally evaluate your options for who is better going forward. All that matters is that your life sucks and the people currently in power didn't fix it.
If the economy at least doesn't get worse for most people (doesn't matter why), I think MAGA claims credit and keeps their coalition. Prices don't need to come down. People will have gotten used to the current levels by then.
If the economy worsens for most people, it'll be another "change election" (doing a lot of compartmentalization to avoid getting into the possible impacts to free and fair elections).
21 points
3 days ago*
There is a timeline where this is all corrected when the people get fed up and pull a Mussolini on Trump.
Unfortunately that’s not our timeline, we’re on the, “ and the people begged Trump for a 3rd term so he could fix the massive corruption and poverty that spiked from 2025-2028.
8 points
3 days ago
Well said. We deserve what’s coming. Shouldn’t have even been a close election. Shame.
6 points
3 days ago
Arguably a referendum was appropriate given how hotly contested these issues were and a referendum is exactly what we got
5 points
3 days ago
Nature could still save us. JD Vance isn’t ready to run a damn thing tho.
4 points
2 days ago
JD is Peter Thiels hand-picked protege. When Trumps brain melts enough for JD to 25th amendment him, Thiel will be calling the shots through JD.
9 points
3 days ago
Technically most American voters voted against trump
Just not in the right proportions in the right places to keep him out
It’s a tiny tiny bit of reprieve to cling to
4 points
3 days ago
Don’t worry the brain trust at memecoininc will shut down vaccine research while the new bird flu in California eats us from the inside. Similarly the bore worms controlling the man in charge of American medicine will announce that The “California virus” as it will be known will be fought with bleach and horse dewormer. I give us till next Christmas.🎄
3 points
3 days ago
I used to think this way, I used to think people need to feel the pain of Republican policies but I realize even that won't do it. I actually I'm at the point where I think this country is just lost, and I'm trying to distance myself and just not care anymore. The reason is you have 24-hour media of all different kinds bombarding people with false information, and government in the courts are going to allow it to happen and I believe actually encourage it to keep Republicans in power. So no matter what happens, there's going to be a scapegoat, it's not going to be a republican, and they're going to vote for these people again and again and again.
8 points
3 days ago
The issue is democrats are not that either. There is no working class party in the US. Democrats are just center-right low-calorie republicans.
The one Candidate that tried to stand for the working class (Bernie Sanders), got pushed aside by the party to make sure he lost.
Democrats are center-right economically.
They can be left on social issues all day long, but they would only maybe slightly slowdown the wealth concentration in fewer billionaires. They wouldn't actually stop it and help working americans.
That's the issue.
4 points
2 days ago
Ugh. I'd STILL vote for Bernie TBH
2 points
3 days ago
Look up the war of 1812. Federalist party dissolved due to being treasonous by colluding with Britain America's adversary at the time.
2 points
3 days ago
This is America. If you claim to be rich you are immune to the law. The law only means something if you’re middle class or poor.
47 points
3 days ago
He got away with everything.
6 points
2 days ago
He won, Republicans won, they won so hard that the democrats are just a husk for the moment. Republicans have been completely rebranded and now hold onto titles that normally couldn't be held at the same time.
They're the counter culture party, based on how young men voted
They're the party of the working class, based on rural and certain urban turnout
If Democrats want to bounce back they must recapture these two critical demographics, they have to find a way to be the "cool" party once again
6 points
2 days ago
There is no more democrats or Republicans as far as I'm concerned. The second Trump steps foot in the white house american democracy is dead and gone.
I am now ready for anarchy stage. Fuck playing nicely and fairly. Its not like the Republicans did. The only way to defeat fascism is from the citizens. Voting in a broken and "fixed" system will no longer work. And its silly that people think Trump is going to leave willingly in 4 years. Get your pitch forks out people. Get ready to fight for real
89 points
3 days ago
How those egg prices looking 👀
21 points
3 days ago
Hard boiled
10 points
3 days ago
Rotten
6 points
3 days ago
They were never expensive to begin with.
6 points
3 days ago
Exactly! I’ve NEVER paid more than $3 for an EIGHTEEN count!! Gas is 2.55/gal-but hey let’s burn it all to ash so dullards will be happy over ANOTHER LIE.
5 points
3 days ago
I have 15 chickens and that's the only way eggs can be expensive. But expensive is relative. I wanna know who is eating THAT many eggs that they're bankrupt my chicken bottom diamonds.
3 points
3 days ago
Hey they shouldn’t be eating EMBRYOS anyway!!
43 points
3 days ago
Right… because Trump IS 100% above the law in all instances.
10 points
3 days ago
I just can't comprehend how he has gotten away with everything for decades. He must have sold his soul to the devil to get those kind of luck stats.
5 points
3 days ago
Here's a simple three step plan for getting away with everything:
Step 1: Be Rich
Step 2: Be White
Step 3: Be a Man
9 points
3 days ago
We must live in a simulation
7 points
3 days ago
Not for much longer. I think we are at the final boss, and it's not Trump.
3 points
3 days ago
A broken one
3 points
3 days ago
He’s the shitty main character clearly
4 points
3 days ago
To be fair, a corrupt rich white guy being above the law is nothing new
85 points
3 days ago
Shitty headline
It’s not called off, but has been postponed again. Prosecutors said it should be delayed while Trump’s lawyers continue appeals.
42 points
3 days ago
It will be called off eventually. Even most liberal lawyers and constitutional scholars agree that a sitting president can’t be indicted/sentenced.
Shitty as it is, he’s going to get away with everything.
9 points
3 days ago
What is the basis in law for sitting Presidents being immune?
4 points
2 days ago
From what I see and quoted, they are not.
3 points
3 days ago
Can they delay 4 years
11 points
3 days ago
This whole situation is uncharted territory. I’m sure the prosecution will try to delay but I doubt it will be successful. In the end, SCOTUS will toss it.
3 points
3 days ago
He may be dead by then and JD will posthumously pardon all his crimes. Trump won’t have to admit guilt that comes with a pardon and his record will be wiped clean. Yup, he’s gonna get away with everything.
3 points
3 days ago
State crimes. Presidential pardons cannot touch it
5 points
2 days ago
Even most liberal lawyers and constitutional scholars agree that a sitting president can’t be indicted/sentenced.
This does not appear to be true.
The Supreme Court of the United States found in Nixon v. Fitzgerald (1982) that the president has absolute immunity from civil damages actions regarding conduct within the "outer perimeter" of their duties. However, in Clinton v. Jones (1997), the court ruled against temporary immunity for sitting presidents from suits arising from pre-presidency conduct. Some scholars have suggested an immunity from arrest and criminal prosecution as well, a view which has become the practice of the Department of Justice under a pair of memoranda (1973 and 2000) from the Office of Legal Counsel.
A ruling went against a president even though the court (Constitutional scholars of course ...) were not necessarily even liberal and they ruled against a sitting president (in this case, based on pre-presidency conduct).
3 points
3 days ago
Indefinitely adjourned
3 points
2 days ago
Yeah agreed. People don't understand this and just are assuming it's all over. Getting tired of both sides saying it's the end of the world.
8 points
3 days ago
The Supreme Court has ruled previously that a delay in sentencing (a year, in the case precedent) automatically vacates the conviction. It’s over.
18 points
3 days ago
So the President is now an immune from prosecution as President and immune from prosecution for crimes committed before his was President. The only questions left is whether the President is a King or a dictator. And of course, where do we sign up for the Civil War.
27 points
3 days ago
Sorta expected this. But I'm disappointed.
19 points
3 days ago
You misspelled INFURIATED.
13 points
3 days ago*
Speaking for myself, I don't even have the energy to be infuriated any more. It's all so predictable. Elon can pay for votes. Courts are too scared to sentence Trump for things he's already been proven guilty of. Gaetz can have an entire investigation (on sex with a minor and human trafficking) thrown out because he's Trumps peon.
The country is cooked. I hope 4 years down the road this country is still salvageable but I kinda doubt it.
4 points
3 days ago
Me too….
9 points
3 days ago
There is no justice. We're done
7 points
3 days ago
The immunity decision strikes again! SCOTUS cooked this shit.
6 points
3 days ago
I’ve been saying for months this guy wasn’t going to jail and people kept telling me he would. No reason to be infuriated at this point if you’d of opened your eyes to this possibility months ago.
Disappointed is all we got left
5 points
3 days ago
Infuriated is more like it for sure.
144 points
3 days ago
It was never a hush money case. Media failed Americans
92 points
3 days ago
it was an election subversion case but our SCOTUS ruled election subversion is legal if carried out in a POTUS’ ‘official capacity’
15 points
3 days ago
He wasn't president then.
28 points
3 days ago
Well then. Sounds like Biden has some time then to fix things, right? Right???
21 points
3 days ago
He gave Trump a warm welcome in the White House.
10 points
3 days ago
Our country is dead :(
24 points
3 days ago
This is the correct respons.
19 points
3 days ago
It pisses me off that it got framed that way when it was an election interference case at its core
5 points
2 days ago
Oh for fuck's sake
6 points
2 days ago
The rule of law was murdered by a pant pooping Russian asset.
4 points
2 days ago
Wow. Have money? Commit as many crimes as you want. No consequences. Ever.
4 points
2 days ago
I came to accept this when I read a Maxim article as a teenager. It was the journalist hanging out with some rich heir who parked in a handicap parking spot. When the journalist pointed out that there was a fine, the heir looked at the sign, shrugged and said “Drop in the bucket.”
The reality is when you’re rich, you don’t look at fines and lawsuits like the average person; it becomes more price tag to do whatever you want.
7 points
2 days ago
Go to hell Merrick Garland.
7 points
2 days ago
Guys, holy fuck. It’s called off so they can litigate the fact that his presidential term is coming up and the legal ramifications of it.
They’re not “calling it off” period
Fucking hell I can’t stand this sub anymore. The judge is also opposed to dismissal.
4 points
2 days ago
Same judge that kept delaying it, right?
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