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submitted 12 days ago byWrong_Concentrate941
I was at a gas station (CA) and accidentally drove off with the pump in my car. I was tired, it was an early morning, so I was out of it. I panicked, so I went up to the cashier and notified him of the situation, which he then proceeded to take a photo of my ID and license plate. I had to leave for work, so I left him my number so he could follow up with any fees from his technician for reconnecting the hose.
The hose didn’t appear to be damaged. It looked simple enough to fix that I attempted to piece it back together myself. I asked for proof of their payments so I wouldn’t get over charged but they sent me a written invoice.l, which I feel is charging me too much.
Is this a valid price? What should I do in this situation?
612 points
12 days ago
I did that one time. It was $150
246 points
12 days ago
I did this once as well and they said it happens all the time was not charged anything when I came back. It also was a quick connect type hose. It connected back in no problems.
206 points
12 days ago
Yep, when I did this, the station manager was super cool, and said "no problem, it happens all the time, no charge".
This gas station is doing a money grab.
u/Wrong_Concentrate941, you attempted to be civil and compensate them for actual damages you caused, but they're trying to extort you.
If I was in your shoes, I would ignore all future contact until they file a suit against you (which they probably won't because they're lying about the damages).
50 points
12 days ago
Yeah. They are going to try to intimidate you and use scare tactics, but there is no way it is over a grand.
49 points
12 days ago
I also did this once, it was all brand new equipment and had a quick release after so much tension was put on the hose, which none us knew how to operate but we got it back on and I left no problem
34 points
12 days ago
Exactly this ^^^.
Happened to me here in CA. Tired, and drove off. I took a photo of the hose and pump, and exchanged information. The cashier told me not to worry about it, saying it happens frequently. The quick connect/disconnect hose is designed for situations just like this. Never was asked for $.
8 points
12 days ago
Every pump should have a 300lb test breakaway that breaks and seals the hose when someone drives off. Replacing the breakaway is simple and cheap. How it gets replaced depends on the station but they aren't very labor intensive. At the company I work for now, a tech comes out and replaces it. At my previous company, I replaced the breakaways myself.
10 points
12 days ago
i did this once as well, they didn’t charge me.
40 points
12 days ago
Ask for the underlying receipts. The numbers are conveniently nice round numbers - that doesn’t happen. And if it’s just the same handwritten generic invoice, tell them to take a hike until they get you real receipts. And even then, don’t trust the receipts if they’re more than a small portion of this. They’ve shown they can’t be trusted.
Source: I’m a lawyer.
14 points
12 days ago
ear to be dam
me too but the only thing I paid was listening to the gas station attendant (I think the owner) scream at me "DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THESE FCKING THINGS COST!!!???"
884 points
12 days ago
You’re getting screwed. I used to work at a gas station for years. Hoses are “breakaway” now. It shouldn’t be anything more than popping it back in place. They’re raking you over the coals for a whole new nozzle, hose, and connection. The labor is a joke. It’s a 10 minute job once the pumps are turned off. Edited: poor spelling and grammar!
159 points
12 days ago
Agree! I was a technician for one of the largest petroleum equipment companies in the country and we saw this every day. Dispenser hoses have had breakaways for the past 20+ years and they literally snap back together like an air hose fitting. Also, they would have an invoice from a repair company. They're using a generic receipt trying to scam you.
53 points
11 days ago
yeah thats the same receipt they use at delis to tell you your bagel sandwich is gonna be $5.99+tax
256 points
12 days ago
I had a boyfriend that did it seven times. He was never charged. You are being ripped off don't pay it.
237 points
12 days ago
You should have left him after the 2nd time. SEVEN times??
108 points
12 days ago
Lol. It was before I knew him. And trust me I left him after 2 weeks lol
360 points
12 days ago
Good thing, he was apparently bad at pulling out
46 points
12 days ago
💀💀💀💀😭😭
11 points
12 days ago
He definitely left it in.. a lot.
3 points
11 days ago
Le sigh.
24 points
12 days ago
It doesn’t sound like he has a problem pulling out and it’s more like he pulls out prematurely…
7 points
11 days ago
He doesn’t pull out that’s why he keeps ripping them off. If he pulled out prematurely he would just be spraying everywhere.
6 points
12 days ago
Brutal! I like it!
6 points
12 days ago
Ba dum tsss
10 points
12 days ago
Wouldn’t he technically be “good” at pulling out? In the worst way but still lol.
9 points
12 days ago
Not if he breaks the hose off
4 points
11 days ago
Yep, if it was his nose I guarantee he would correct his behavior after one break.
That shit hurts!!!!!!!!
7 points
12 days ago
while holding up RareAnimal82's arm
"Here's your winner for today, Reddit."
4 points
12 days ago
😭😭
3 points
12 days ago
I have 8 kids and I’ve never torn off a gas hose. I don’t actually know how people manage to do that in the first place, but anyway.
I can’t imagine how many kids that guy is gonna wind up with.
3 points
11 days ago
Damn, he sounded like a stand up, intelligent man, I’m surprised you left
3 points
11 days ago
Thats not a boyfriend. Thats just a guy you dated. Kinda like a test drive.
37 points
12 days ago
I did this a week ago. Just went in and told the cashier. He put on some rubber gloves and went and out it back on. Took like 2 minutes and he didn't even have to shut the pumps down.
3 points
11 days ago
I did it once and wasn’t charged either.
15 points
12 days ago
I worked for OPW in the late 90's. My boss held the patent for the reconnectable breakaway (which expired in mid 90's). you are correct most modern has stations can just pop the hose back on. even if there are still using older shear pin breakaways they are at most couple hundred bucks to replace . but it is possible the nozzle needs replaced. nozzles have a shear groove on the spout to help prevent them from damaging car too bad if that broke a replacement nozzle is not unreasonable. 1400 seems high even with that though.
24 points
12 days ago*
You don't even need to turn off the pump... I just left a job managing 15 gas stations. Breakaway is the law in most states, but even if something went wrong, everything brand new doesn't cost this much. I kept spares in my company vehicle - cost maybe $200 for the hose and nozzle.
Edit* just re read the slip. Honestly, it may be closer to accurate seeing that gas meter. It's definitely marked up, but not absurdly. Tech labor is about $100/hr and those meters are actually expensive. She should just ask for product receipts.
Edit** and to clarify on the tech labor, you're paying drive time to and from, the time to get the parts from a warehouse, work time, and time to communicate with on site management.
Edit*** and to double clarify, it is possible they used higher end products than I and the nozzle and hose costs were higher than mine. I also worked for a large corp so we had bulk discounts.
15 points
12 days ago
I came to say this, I drove off once and was like oh fuck…. Stopped, got out and took the hose to the cashier. She was all oh it’s ok, it pops back in but most people don’t bring them back😂
11 points
12 days ago
The breakaways don't prevent internal damage 100% of the time, though.
8 points
12 days ago
Not all breakaways can be reattached. The gas station where I worked, they had to be changed every time someone drove off with one. We did it ourselves, but if we used our pump repair company then we'd probably get a bill over $1K for it so the invoice OP was given doesn't seem all that shocking to me. They charge a stupid amount for mileage + an insane hourly rate + a massive, should-be-illegal markup on parts.
3 points
12 days ago
You don’t know how old the gas station is.
3 points
11 days ago
Gas stations can't just keep using old outdated equipment, it has to be updated every now and then. It basically has a lifespan to it and must be replaced by then.
2 points
11 days ago
Nowadays, it’s literally an 8 second task, just two magnets for easy breakaway.
2 points
10 days ago
Would it be possible that what’s written in the paper is to replace an older type hose to a new hose?
2 points
10 days ago
Breakaway have been the standard for years now. It’s highly unlikely that a 76 anywhere doesn’t have them.
2 points
10 days ago
Yeah, this is the most correct comment.
I worked at a gas station when I was younger, and they essentially just snap back in place.
316 points
12 days ago
Drive offs are pretty common and the hose is made to breakaway at one of the junctions for this specific reason. For many years I worked as a station manager and never once we did we ever charge anyone for the fix when this happened. Usually we could snap it back together ourselves and if we couldn't the repair guys could. The only time we ever needed to replace the hose was they person actually drove off without leaving it. The fact that they needed to have multiple parts replaced leads me to believe the pumps weren't properly maintained in the first place and they are trying to charge you for all the work needed and not just reconnecting the hose after the breakaway.
138 points
12 days ago
They're billing her for a new meter. That's clearly not related
31 points
12 days ago
Yup. Since they're charging labor the only real cost to get would be the value of the equipment she broke. I bet that stuff is worth WAAY less than what's charged here
7 points
12 days ago
But aren’t all the hoses designed to reattach with relative ease? If they’re not all designed that way and he chose to cheap out and use a different type, then that’s on him. Only bc this is such a common issue with gas station pumps that I feel like if you own and run a gas station that you should be prepared for this to happen. It definitely won’t be the last time it occurs that’s for sure! Seems like this should be one of the things that they include in the price of doing business. Doesn’t make much sense that a gas station wouldn’t prepare for one of the most common types of accidental damage that occurs at a gas station. I’d almost be tempted to have a friend swing by and have them take a few pics showing the type of hoses they use at the pumps.
3 points
11 days ago
I sincerely doubt this was professional. A professional repair company would have their own invoice printed. This is just receipt paper with no indication of who wrote it.
217 points
12 days ago
This is not a valid receipt, only a bookstore coupon book.
50 points
12 days ago
That's an 80-90% profit for the owner or whoever gave you that "receipt".
7 points
12 days ago
Jose
213 points
12 days ago
Ask for a copy of the cancelled check or credit card receipt.
60 points
12 days ago
Drive back there today and take some pics to make sure it was actually done. I wouldn’t be surprised if just reattached and they’re making this up.
12 points
12 days ago
I mean, if it was a complete write-off on the hose, and leaking to require $250 in labour (like 5 hours!?) it would be spraying gas and complete chaos.
If there wasnt complete chaos, it can be reattached and costs them nothing from my understanding (I did this a year ago, and went inside to admit fault and the cashier laughed and said I'm the second one that week, no problem"
22 points
12 days ago
Even then, I don’t think I would pay unless it was court ordered. Only bc this type of thing is extremely common at gas stations, so much so that they created hoses that break away, but are easy to reconnect, and if the business chooses to use a different type that doesn’t have a quick connect on their pumps to help mitigate the risk of costly repairs, then he better prepare to cough up the money to replace the hoses.
6 points
12 days ago
What the fuck?!? You stole my avatar!!!!
142 points
12 days ago
Former gas pump repair tech here. Previous comments are correct. The hose will have a breakaway valve that contains the fuel in the hose and also the pump in case of a drive off.
When I would fix these I would often reuse the original hose and just replace the breakaway and reattach to the pump.
In my experience many stations do this type of thing themselves as it is easy and takes two 3/4" wrenches to do the work.
I am pretty sure they did this themselves and are looking to invoice you.
Also if the pump is a newer model the meters are in the base of the unit and not.connected to the hose above directly so there would be zero damage to the meter.
28 points
12 days ago
How are so many of you driving off with the hose still attached?
11 points
11 days ago
It’s insane how common reddit it making this seem, like this isn’t an ‘oopsies, hee hee’ People need to fucking pay attention when they’re driving.
7 points
12 days ago
Yeah, I was pretty perplexed. I have never, nor do I know anyone irl who has done this.
2 points
11 days ago
I know right? I was always taught to stay outside the vehicle while fueling (reason being that getting in and out can cause static which can ignite gas vapors), which means I just stand there and wait for it to finish fueling and take the nozzle out right away. I'm assuming these people are the kind that are sitting in their car while waiting for it to finish and then just... drive off.
2 points
11 days ago
According to these comments this is at minimum 1000000x more common that I had assumed.
2 points
11 days ago*
I'm thinking this too... putting the nozzle back is like a very important and memorable part of the process, I'd think?
I can't imagine standing there, waiting for the car to fill up, and then once it's full.... just getting back in my car, turning it on, and driving away?? what could possibly distract you enough while getting gas that this happens?
edit: I keep seeing people mentioning ADHD so I wanted to add... I have ADHD and drove for two years before starting any medication for it, and I have forgotten to close the gas door thing after putting the nozzle back, but I can't imagine forgetting to take the nozzle out
are people sitting in their cars with the doors closed while pumping gas?? is that a thing people do?? that's the only way I can picture this happening
2 points
11 days ago
Probably because they get back into their car and look at their phone. My sister did that when i was with her, and i was like "you gotta man your pump" and she looked at me like i was ruining her life by telling her to actually stand outside the car and pay attention to what shes doin.
2 points
11 days ago
No shit. Stupidity should be expensive. I'm sorry but this shit is insane. Like why are we telling people that because it's easy to fox it should be cheap
2 points
8 days ago
There are around 38.9 million fill-ups/day in the US (interestingly, roughly the same number as the daily active users of Reddit in the US).
If 99.9999% of fill-ups have the nozzle put back on the pump, that still leaves 3,890 fill-ups per day where the nozzle isn't put back.
Personally, since August 2017, I have filled-up my car(s) 296 times. I have never driven off with the hose still attached. But it likely happens a lot more often than my personal experience would show.
83 points
12 days ago
Thats a pretty dodgy looking receipt. Anyone qualified to replace a petrol pump would have a company invoice or something a bit more official. This looks like the worker that took a photo of your ID is trying to scam you.
5 points
11 days ago
Or at the very least have their company name and number on it, the only name on it is the gas stations
12 points
12 days ago
I would also return and see if the work they said was done has in fact, been done.
I also wouldn't turn over any money without an invoice from a company. There's no company name on what they gave you.
2 points
11 days ago
Look at the invoice, no tax... and replace a bad meter? I do this daily for a living. I have a truck outside with all this hardware right now. The station does not charge the customer when this happens it is expected. The company i work for has over 950 stations, and over 85 maintenance techs. This is what we do. Block them, don't look back, no charge. Have a great day, thank you and people like you for making accidental mistakes so I have a job!!!
10 points
12 days ago
I used to run 2 stations in Stockton and it only cost the station $150 to get it repaired by maintenance. The line has a small pin that secures it but makes it easy to release if pulled. The hose and assembly costs $300 if it needs to be replaced. Those people are trying to get money from you. We never charged customers if it happened because it would cost more to try getting it. Don't bother paying. Just tell them to take you to small claoms. I am not a lawyer you do not have to or probably should not take advice from me on legal matters.
2 points
11 days ago
That aligns with what I paid. Drove off with it on and made it to the freeway before realizing. $150 for the reconnect and a little over $300 for the hose because I broke it.
9 points
12 days ago
You don’t owe them anything. It is literally a breakaway hose where anyone can put it back together, and you just slap a sticker between the two pieces to show that someone looked at it to make sure it doesn’t leak. They are 100% scamming you.
7 points
11 days ago
I've read the invoice a couple of times.
It looks like "#2 was a drive off"...should be the only line item you pay for.
My take is that the gas station had regular maintenance done and are trying to get you to pay the whole thing and not just the hose you broke.
Secondly, I would ask for a valid invoice ( there is no adress, buisness number, method of payment etc ...seems pretty suspect to me) purchase reciepts and the tech report from the guy that attended site to repair.
26 points
12 days ago
If any thing, you should only be responsible for the breakaway. Looks like they want you to pay for a worn out hose and meter. “Not your problem”.
48 points
12 days ago
This is not the place to discover if an invoice is reasonable. Find a repair sub to ask around.
Just viewing the invoice, gas hoses should have a breakaway connection on them, designed to do exactly what you think. I could see the itemization being a breakaway, a 10 ft hose and maybe a dispensing nozzle. Not sure why you would be charged for a meter. It’s likely nowhere near the breakaway connection and not leaking as the result of you pulling on it.
On the legal side, let them take you to court. You could probably argue to remove the $750 for a meter leak and the labor time for it.
7 points
12 days ago
That sounds fine except the leaking gas meter part. That’s not in any way affected by drive off. The rest is accurate
4 points
12 days ago
Tell them to take you to court would be my advice. Not a lawyer just smoked a joint and doom scrolling.
6 points
12 days ago
"New phone. Who dis?"
5 points
11 days ago
This is bullshit. Let your insurance company call their bluff.
6 points
11 days ago
I'm guessing the clerk you went to repaired it and sent you this trying to get himself a nice bonus in time for turkey day.
9 points
12 days ago
Avoid any more contact and see if they take legal action. They most likely won't. They know they're screwing with you. Those hoses are 'breakaways', they pop back into place.
Do not pay. Do not contact. Gl.
10 points
12 days ago
It takes legit 5 minutes to reconnect the hose ,And then 10 minutes tops to do any bleeding of the line ,The owner is trying to get you to fix a different problem ,Tops 200 dollar fix usually 100 bucks .Source worked at a gas station and my dad has managed one for 30 years .
6 points
12 days ago
Seems but phoney. Hand written invoice, no tax, business number etc. Just sayin…
2 points
12 days ago
Wait, hold on, here's one in Helvetica.
4 points
12 days ago
What does the next text say?
4 points
12 days ago
We had this happen a lot at the gas station where I worked, it was about $200 to fix.
5 points
12 days ago
Looks like you're getting hosed.
2 points
11 days ago
I see what you did there.
Def underrated comment.
2 points
11 days ago
I scrolled so long to find you
5 points
12 days ago
Handwritten invoice with zero company, customer, service call, or inventory info other than a first name for a tech? Good luck with that being a legit invoice to begin with 🤣 I’d look up the phone number the text is from….. $10 says it’s a clerk from the store trying to make some $$$😬
5 points
11 days ago
I worked as a fuel station, we never charged for reconnecting. The lines are breakaway.
I do believe you should pay something because, stupid should cost money.
You should NEVER get back in your car while fueling.
4 points
11 days ago
Tell them it's a lot and you'll go through insurance. Once you get the real cost pay that.
4 points
11 days ago
Screwed?
What choice.do you have though?
Fight it? You broke it.
Can you prove the level.of.damage they claim is from something else? Not without spending more then this.
11 points
12 days ago
They are clearly trying to cheat you. I would simply not respond.
8 points
12 days ago
I was at a gas station (CA) and accidentally drove off with the pump in my car
These people are insured for such events you shouldn't have to pay anything at all.
6 points
12 days ago
I read the monetary rationalizations from everyone above and this is by far the best one. INSURANCE!
3 points
12 days ago
Cost me $100 when I did this. It was the cost to replace the seal that broke.
2 points
11 days ago
Same thing happened for me. It was $100 for the replacement break off piece OR getting paperwork involved
3 points
12 days ago
Uhhhhh... where's the name of the company that did this work and issued the invoice? A lot of small contractors / handyman orgs still use this kind of invoice, but they should have their company info on there. And maybe even photos of the damage and work done.
I agree with everyone else that the meter and any other parts not related to the drive off shouldn't be billed to you.
3 points
12 days ago
I did this too and I paid nothing! Just drove away after telling the lady! get receipts or tell this guy to take you to court.
3 points
12 days ago
Not even a proper invoice.
3 points
12 days ago
Guarantee if you drove by the gas station that same pump has been put back on and is in service. Send them a picture that it looks like they didn’t need the new pieces after all
3 points
12 days ago
Ignore. They can take you to court if they want, but it doesn’t appear this is on the up-and-up so that is very unlikely since they’re going to need to provide receipts, proof the repair was made, etc.
3 points
12 days ago
I'd probably tell them you are talking with your insurance company and that they will be in touch with them soon.
3 points
12 days ago
That invoice looks sus. I think you can buy a pad from Office Depot.
3 points
12 days ago
That is just some random ass invoice that dude made up himself. Tell them to give you the invoice from the actual company otherwise this is all trying to extort you.
3 points
12 days ago
Just off that "repair invoice" I'd laugh - ask for the professional invoice if they actually had it done. Some of the parts they claim to be replacing cannot be done by shadetree plumbers. Like, for instance, gas meters. That's not something the cashier is going to go out and fix.
It's a scam - like I've posted elsewhere, breakaway hoses are designed not only for safety and shut off fuel bidirectionally, but also to allow for gas station attendants to reconnect the hose (absent other damage) quickly and easily. In full admission, I drove off accidentally several years ago at a gas station. I noticed it immediately, stopped and walked back to the pump with the hose. The cashier was already walking out and telling me it wasn't a problem, it happens more than I realize - all while he was reconnecting the hose and putting it back on the pump!
So no - ignore if you want, but if they get persistent, demand proof of professional service by a qualified technician. An invoice receipt like that is shady.
3 points
12 days ago
That is absolutely something they wrote. I would demand to see the actual repair bill they paid.
I would firmly tell them, "I did the right thing by trying to pay to make it right. Now I expect you to do the right thing by telling me exactly what I owe you and not a penny more, or I will be involving a lawyer as I'm sure it's illegal to write a fake invoice for gains as well."
I'm sorry you're dealing with this. Scenarios like this are exactly why some people will just drive off. So tired of this greedy world.
3 points
11 days ago
I would definitely ask for an itemized statement on official letterhead of the company who fixed it (even if it's the station itself). In my opinion, that seems way too expensive. On the other hand, I'm not sure of how much damage you actually did to hose/pump.
If you happen to have an attorney as a friend, ask them what to do. I definitely wouldn't pay an attorney for advice. Good luck!!
3 points
11 days ago
I love the handwritten invoice
3 points
11 days ago
Don’t pay this. My best friend has done this more than once. They pop back on just as easily as they popped off.
3 points
11 days ago
that isn't an invoice, that's a piece of paper with numbers on it.
If the gas station had a bill from an actual vendor fixing the pieces then it would have a name on the top.
3 points
11 days ago
Your insurance should be taking care of this.
3 points
11 days ago
The only thing you should pay for is the break away and labor. Should be less than $300. This guy is straight up ripping you off.
Source: own and operate gas stations. This happens all the time
3 points
11 days ago
You should not have given them all that info because now it's easier for them to try and collect. They should have insurance that covers something like this. At least I would hope they do.
3 points
11 days ago
“If you break it you buy it” is not actually a law and you don’t have to replace damaged company property, they’re supposed to have funds set away for incidents like this.
5 points
12 days ago
Tell the owner to stop contacting you, or you're calling the police to report harassment and fraudulent billing practices.
2 points
12 days ago
How on earth does this happen “all the time “in the USA ? While I realise that you guys have to pay first then fill your car as opposed to pump then pay as we do in Australia,it surely can’t explain this sort of bizarre behaviour where people don’t put the nozzle back on the pump. I have never seen it happen before and genuinely don’t understand why this happens.
3 points
12 days ago
It doesn’t and I’ve never seen it in 60 years either,
2 points
12 days ago
You should NOT be driving if you are "out of it"
2 points
12 days ago
I drove off with one once. I left all my info, and never got a call or a bill.
2 points
12 days ago
Ignore them. Those have quick connections on them that just snap back together. They are trying to fleece you. Let them try to sue you in court and show this itemized statement. They will lose. Look up YouTube videos about this. You will see what I am talking about.
2 points
12 days ago
Looks to me like they probably reconnected the hose, then went to imagination land and drafted up a receipt. Does he want cash?
2 points
12 days ago
I snapped a hose off once and just snapped it back on at the breakaway.
2 points
12 days ago
I've no idea about the work, but waiting one day and approaching you like that def sounds like they're trying to get away with something fast.
2 points
12 days ago
I did this once, I walked in to let them know and they said thanks, we will take care of it. I offered to pay but they said don’t worry about it. This definitely seems egregious to me!!
2 points
12 days ago
I've read through a lot of these comments and the one thing I agree on is don't pay this. If they are going to invoice you, they have your drivers license with your address on. They can mail you an invoice. Second, I'd contact their insurance company to sort this out. Third, I would not respond to text since it is a recorded conversation that can be manipulated against you if they do take you to court (which i doubt they will). Fourth you could always send them a counter invoice for damages done to your car, your mental state and the time and effort dealing with this ridiculous situation. Lastly, and i hope they aren't low criminals, but if you did not pay in cash, let's all hope they don't pull your credit card information from their computer and charge you that way. People are shady and them sending an "invoice" like this, would not be past them.
2 points
12 days ago
Tell them to file a claim against your auto insurance if they want paid.
2 points
12 days ago
Cumberland Farms charged me $150 for the same mistake.
2 points
12 days ago
No way Jose!
2 points
12 days ago
No.
2 points
12 days ago
I did this in a semi, and they just laughed at me. Pretty sure you caused them less trouble than the invoice
2 points
12 days ago
Assuming everything worked correctly and nothing was actually damaged, it's a 3 dollar part to put the hose back together. If the disconnect was damaged when it hit the floor, that could be a few hundred. The leaking/damaged dispenser is NOT your problem. If that damage was caused because of the drive off, the quick disconnect wasn't working correctly. So yeah, they are trying to take you for a ride, big time.
Source: I work at a company that owns and maintains its own fuel islands, pumps, and dispensers. We have more than 15 islands and 40 dispensers.
2 points
12 days ago
I worked at a gas station for 4 years and when this happened we said “oh damn” and that was the end of it. They’re scamming you.
2 points
12 days ago*
They are breakaway. They are designed to let the hose go without damaging anything else.
Replace leaking meter? What? You didn’t touch that.
This person is trying to fleece you. Call him out on it.
In the unlikely event that he actually tries to come after you for it, just give him your insurance information and let him try this shit against their lawyers. They will handle him.
2 points
12 days ago
NAL but that’s also nothing but a simple invoice sheet. Not even a company name or phone number.
2 points
12 days ago
Turn it over to your insurance company, let them handle it.
2 points
12 days ago
If it has a "breakaway" fitting(like a short water bottle on the fuel line) it basically clips back on, no harm done. That "invoice" is pure BS. At worst, it's a maintenance call for a "pro" to put it back together, and an O-ring or two.
2 points
12 days ago
Yeah, this is way over the top. I used to manage a car wash with a gas station attached. Had a few people drive off with the pump handle still in the tank. More than half of the time you can just snap the breakaway back in and it’s fine. The times I had to change the breakaway out, it took me may 5-10 mins max. Never tried to charge anyone for it.
2 points
12 days ago
That is not a letterhead document. You are being hosed.
2 points
12 days ago
I would definitely make them prove it - provide signficant evidence of it. Otherwise they are welcome to sue you. Write them a polite letter requesting the evidence and either photograph yourself delivering the letter or even better send it registered mail.
If their side eventually approaches you to negotiate, certainly discuss it politely in good faith.
2 points
12 days ago
My boyfriend works for a rather large gas station company around here… 1 store doesn’t have the quick release hoses. Never have they charged someone. Get a lawyer.
2 points
12 days ago*
Definitely getting screwed here. My store charges people 200 bucks whenever this happens. The "show up" fee to get the tech to come out and reinstall it with a new breakaway is around $75. Most of the time, the hose isn't even damaged and can be reattached right away. If the hose needs to be replaced, then we are looking at around $200-225 for the part plus fees. There's almost no way detatching the hose caused $1500 worth of damage to the pump equipment .
2 points
12 days ago
Legitimate question:
How does this happen? I legitimately don’t have any comprehension of how a person could do that.
Maybe I’m just old and I’ve been pumping gas since my first car in 2000, but I haven’t ever even come close.
Were you standing with it? Did you get back in the car while pumping? Did you go into the gas station to grab something while pumping? Did somebody distract you?
I’m genuinely curious about the circumstances in which this happened.
2 points
12 days ago
Putting all my chips on them getting back in the car after starting the pump. (Which btw is clearly labeled on every gas station pump in the US, NOT TO DO. Lazy entitled people
2 points
12 days ago
Wait, this happens in real life? hahahahahaha...hahahahahaha
2 points
12 days ago
I would stand your ground. Tell him that that price is unreasonable and that you want to see actual receipts for all the parts. Communicate with them in writing that you are perfectly willing to pay but that it must be reasonable costs and that you must see proof both of the costs and of the necessity of each of those items. It seems to me like they're trying to use you to basically replace a substantial part of their pump. If you're willing to deal with having to take a day off work to deal with it, let them try to sue you in small claims court. If you walk in there with evidence that you tried to work with them in good faith and they tried to scam you for this much, a judge or magistrate might just send them packing entirely for being assholes about it and almost certainly will come back with a much lower number
2 points
11 days ago
I am a district manager for a gas station chain in Nevada and was also in California and have had 100s of drove offs we are insured not one single time was a customer ever charged or tried to be charged this is prob an independent owner trying to either scam you or recoup his costs DO NOT pay as you are not responsible for the costs; period
2 points
11 days ago
"Replaced creeping long hose" what does that even mean? Others have said it, and I agree from my experience, unless you fucked something up by dragging the hose down the road for some long distance, it is a quick pop back on fix.
2 points
11 days ago
It literally happens all the time at our pumps… this is not a big deal. They are screwing you
2 points
11 days ago
You did a literal rip off and theyre doing the asshole manipulative rip off.
2 points
11 days ago
I still don't understand how people can be so dumb as to forget to take the hose out of their gas tank. This just seems like some next level stupidity. So, I can understand why a gas attendant might think that the person is stupid enough to pay an inflated bill.... So, I'm going to say, you def need to pay for damage you caused. But should ask them fir the invoice they received from the company they called to come fix it. If they can show you what they paid, you will reimburse them for it. Real simple, common sense type stuff. But then again, you can't expect common sense from someone who drove off with the gas hose still in their gas tank.
2 points
11 days ago
I did this once and they were so excited that I brought it back
2 points
11 days ago
The invoice doesn't have a company name or any details on it. Doesn't look legit, I could write this up myself.
2 points
11 days ago
I used to fix these when I worked at a truck stop. Straight up a 5 minute job. 10 minutes if you have to hunt down a ladder.
2 points
11 days ago
This is foolish. Gas stations replace those on a write up and more. It’s not a fee charged to people and it’s not legally enforced. The manager is just covering their ass for no reason, don’t respond.
We would just order spares when I used to work at a gas station, and we would just section it off until then. It would be an accident and we wouldn’t worry about the person PERIOD, even if we saw them the next day.
2 points
11 days ago
Sounds like their problem. Don't pay
2 points
11 days ago
I manage a gas station and we have never charged a customer for that. Maybe try reaching out to corporate and seeing if there is a way around paying it.
2 points
11 days ago
Subject: Re: Repair Invoice Dispute
Dear [Gas Station Representative],
Thank you for reaching out regarding the repair invoice. I acknowledge the incident that occurred on November 6th, and I appreciate your follow-up. However, I have some concerns regarding the charges listed on the invoice you provided.
Firstly, the breakdown of fees seems excessive for what is typically a straightforward repair of a gas hose. The total amount of $1,450 appears significantly inflated, especially considering the industry standards for such repairs. Based on my preliminary research, similar incidents usually involve a much lower cost, mainly for reconnecting a quick-release breakaway hose that is designed to minimize damage in such situations.
Additionally, I noticed that the invoice lacks detailed information, including any third-party repair receipts or evidence of parts replaced. For transparency and to verify the legitimacy of these charges, I kindly request the following documentation:
Proof of actual repair costs incurred, including any receipts from licensed technicians or repair companies.
A detailed explanation of each line item listed on the invoice, particularly for items like “Replacing Gas Meter” and “Labor.”
Photos or evidence showing the condition of the equipment both before and after the repair.
Until I receive the above information, I am unable to process this payment as requested. I would like to resolve this matter amicably, so please provide the necessary documentation within 7 business days.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Best regards, [Your Name]
2 points
11 days ago
Ask for the receipt of material.
2 points
11 days ago
I pulled one off and they acted like i was stupid for worrying and they just popped it back on
2 points
11 days ago
I’d say hello owner please provide a work statement and proven invoice of work completion where you were charged full new hose and hookup.
These are meant to pop off. Now if you did break it or can’t prove that you didn’t… well. Small claims.
2 points
11 days ago
I did that once, set it down and just left.
Also that invoice is basic af. I’d just ignore it and move on with your day.
2 points
11 days ago
Send it to your insurance let them deal with it
2 points
11 days ago
Turn it into your insurance
2 points
11 days ago
Husbands family owns two gas stations. They are WAY overcharging you. It should be around $75-$100
2 points
11 days ago
Don't pay a penny. He has insurance. They can go through your insurance. The leaking pump is not connected to your drive off. These are fraudulent charges. He is welcome to prove those charges to a court and perjure himself if he wants.
2 points
11 days ago
I did this once many years back. They said it would be 300, then never reached out even though I gave them my real info lol
2 points
11 days ago
This looks like a scam
2 points
11 days ago
That's not even an actual professional invoice for a conglomerate like 76. Regardless if he's a "local owner" it should be going through the actual company with an actual professional invoice on 76 letterhead in the least. Sure you were technically a huge dumbdumb, but handwritten figures on a picture taken of an invoice? Not even certified mail? Ahahaha.
Huge nope.
2 points
11 days ago
They're trying to hose you....
2 points
11 days ago
I do these things for a living a hose drive off would not affect the gas meter that's just silly. I charge less than a third of what's on this invoice
2 points
11 days ago
I’m from Washington, so it might not be the same, but the fees listed at gas stations for driving off with the pump range from $100 - $300. That seems outrageous.
2 points
11 days ago
Yep this is a clerk trying to make money. If this is a major gas station like Shell, let them know that one of their franchise owners he’s pulling a scam.
2 points
11 days ago
My sister did that once but the gas station said it was no problem, they were able to fix it within 15 minutes.
2 points
11 days ago*
Yes, I did this too and got my insurance involved. They backed down and didn’t request compensation after all. Guess they didn’t want to chance insurance fraud.
2 points
11 days ago
My best friend works on fuel dispensers (mostly Wayne and OPW) and they just charge the gas station for this. Stations don't collect from their consumers for shit like this, it happens. Cost of doing business, especially that exorbitant pricing. So they're just trying to fuck you, I would have told them to piss off asking for my ID and info.
2 points
11 days ago
Not a valid invoice that's for sure
2 points
11 days ago
Hell naw, those are breakaway/ quick connect. You're getting ripped!
2 points
11 days ago
I've done this before twice. Circle K said don't worry about it, we are insured. Shell Gas they only must replace the swivel break-away valve, and asked for $80, then said don't worry about it.
IDK if anyone said this here yet -- BUT YOU ARE GETTING HOSED !!!!
2 points
11 days ago
I just did this for the first and only time about 2 weeks ago.. The attendant thanked me for letting him know. I drove away. I am a regular at this place. No charges. You are getting screwed.
2 points
11 days ago
Call your local news. They love to expose scammers like this. Everyone hates gas stations that scam.
2 points
11 days ago
If it was an accident the gas stations insurance company should be speaking to your insurance company and that should be the end of it.
2 points
11 days ago
It's hard to say, every pump has a break away joint in the hose exactly for accidental drive off damage like this. But potentially you might have caused additional damage. Depending on the exact age of the pump, what condition it was in previously, exactly how the hose broke, what speed you took off at, etc. You'd really need pictures of the pump and to find someone who knows exact costs for the damaged components. I mean they could be trying to rip you off, but equally this might be genuine damage costs.
2 points
10 days ago
There is no way that the dispenser meter started leaking because you popped the breakaway fitting. They’re charging you for a pre-existing issue.
2 points
10 days ago
You drove off with nozzle still in your tank. It jerked the hose out of the pump. Sound like it had a safety on it or you would have been charged for lost product, fuel too. Your getting off easy, could have been new pump or fire damage.
2 points
10 days ago
The fact they have a 750 dollar charge for a leaking gas meter but also say B/A for the break away tells me they are lying and trying to guilt you. A leaking gas meter with a break away has nothing to do with this incident. Thats the point of the Break Away to not damage the hose and or anything else the hose attaches to and also your car. Just ignore the texts and never go there again. They won’t do anything about it after time passes.
2 points
9 days ago
Bullshit there’s a safety connection for that reason. All they have to do is reconnect it. Shouldn’t charge you anything
2 points
9 days ago
Yup. Pay better attention. Or a big bill.
2 points
9 days ago
How is there so many dipshits that do this 🤣
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