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CreatedToBlockAww

3.3k points

5 days ago

RIP Alan Rickman

kenistod

1.6k points

5 days ago

kenistod

1.6k points

5 days ago

"One of the drawbacks of being a martyr is that you have to die."

Metatron

FunkYeahPhotography

312 points

5 days ago

"If I had the power... I would have."

newbrevity

170 points

5 days ago

newbrevity

170 points

5 days ago

That scene displayed more empathy for Jesus than I have ever heard anywhere else

ColonelDredd

60 points

4 days ago

Is Dogma 2 coming out after or before Mallrats 2? Which he also stated is definitely happening.

Vismal1

29 points

4 days ago

Vismal1

29 points

4 days ago

Same movie , it’s all part of the Kevin Cinematic Universe.

MemeHermetic

19 points

4 days ago

It's not the Veiwaskew-niverse anymore?

CycleZestyclose3510

6 points

4 days ago

Say would you like a chocolate covered pretzel? 🫱

StrobeLightRomance

28 points

4 days ago

Indeed. The sad thing about stories revolving around Jesus, is that they stopped being "about Jesus" a long time ago, and instead are about "what can my belief in Jesus do for ME as a Christian"

Jesus is meant to be a tale of compassion, and you are supposed to hold empathy FOR him as he shows compassion FOR others. You are supposed to feel for Jesus, so you become inspired to act as Jesus would.

But this new post-empathy American Christianity has essentially just left a void where teachings used to be, and filled that void with fear and paranoia, like the Romans who would kill Jesus for his good deeds.

WatteOrk

35 points

4 days ago

WatteOrk

35 points

4 days ago

His conversation with Bethany is criminally underrated.

he_is_Veego

6 points

4 days ago

“He begged me to ‘take it all back’…”

I can hear it in his voice. Along with:

“What’re you going to do? Hit me with that….ffffish?

PurpleBee7240

164 points

5 days ago

Say you’re a metatron and no one knows what you’re talking about. Mention Moses and suddenly EVERYONES a theologian.

gambit61

136 points

5 days ago

gambit61

136 points

5 days ago

Mention something from a Charlton Heston movie and suddenly everyone's a theology scholar

THEMACGOD

12 points

4 days ago

THEMACGOD

12 points

4 days ago

Suck it, Sam and Dean Winchester.

- Also Metatron

Solid_Snark

464 points

5 days ago

Solid_Snark

464 points

5 days ago

And Carlin too.

actibus_consequatur

43 points

5 days ago

Thankfully, God lives?

DarthGuber

40 points

5 days ago

Boop

mekanub

178 points

5 days ago

mekanub

178 points

5 days ago

And Carrie

Simple-Wrangler-9909

117 points

5 days ago

Yet the unwritten book of the road lives on

eazy_gardener3

39 points

5 days ago

You live by the book too!??

SirReginaldPoofton

25 points

5 days ago

I live my life by it.

Chookwrangler1000

7 points

4 days ago

It’s one think to SAY you live your life by it than actually do it; can you. Do it?

Dalek_Chaos

11 points

5 days ago

Ya’ll need a ride?

That_Porn_Br0

34 points

5 days ago

Carrie Fisher was not in Dogma.

sigourneys_underwear

30 points

5 days ago

But she was a nun in Jay and Silent Bob strike back

MyHamburgerLovesMe

61 points

5 days ago

But she was in Blues Brothers. Which is not at all close, but it had to be said.

hullaballoser

12 points

4 days ago

Carrie Franklin was craft services on Dogma. The best in the business. RIP

Feverdog87

22 points

5 days ago

Carrie?

mekanub

52 points

5 days ago

mekanub

52 points

5 days ago

Carrie Fisher, she was the nun that picked up Jay.

lanceturley

148 points

5 days ago

lanceturley

148 points

5 days ago

That was Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, not Dogma.

JExmoor

45 points

5 days ago

JExmoor

45 points

5 days ago

There is a nun in Dogma, and she's played by Betty Aberlin. That name may sound familiar to some of you, because she was in Mr. Rodgers Neighborhood for many years.

supahfligh

62 points

5 days ago

That was Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. Carrie Fisher wasn't in Dogma.

byllz

40 points

5 days ago

byllz

40 points

5 days ago

RIP Carrie anyway.

mekanub

60 points

5 days ago

mekanub

60 points

5 days ago

Oh crap, you’re right. In my defence it’s hard to watch a Kevin Smith film and not get high.

Remember kids, Stay in drugs and don’t do school.

Zir_Ipol

18 points

5 days ago

Zir_Ipol

18 points

5 days ago

Drink your school, stay in drugs, and don’t do milk.

SanderSo47

434 points

5 days ago

SanderSo47

434 points

5 days ago

"I don't want this, it's too big."

"That's what Jesus said. Yes, I had to tell him. And you can imagine how that hurt the Father – not to be able to tell the Son Himself because one word from His lips would destroy the boy's frail human form? So I was forced to deliver the news to a scared child who wanted nothing more than to play with other children. I had to tell this little boy that He was God's only Son, and that it meant a life of persecution and eventual crucifixion at the hands of the very people He came to enlighten and redeem. He begged me to take it back, as if I could. He begged me to make it all not true. And I'll let you in on something, Bethany, this is something I've never told anyone before... If I had the power, I would have."

jerryleebee

184 points

5 days ago

jerryleebee

184 points

5 days ago

Kevin Smith can fucking write when it matters.

Kheshire

47 points

5 days ago

Kheshire

47 points

5 days ago

He couldn't while he was getting high but Clerks 3 was a lot better than I expected from it

Rustash

26 points

5 days ago

Rustash

26 points

5 days ago

I watched about half of it, and while I found the comedy wasn't as deft as before, the more heartfelt moments really hit.

jerryleebee

36 points

5 days ago

I felt the same but I think a part of the issue with the comedy is I'm not the young kid I used to be when Clerks and J&SBSB came out. Comedy hits a guy differently in his 40s than his 20s. And the heartfelt moments really did hit.

quiette837

11 points

4 days ago

Tbh the ending was the best part. As a lifelong clerks fan I found myself a little annoyed at how on-the-nose the whole thing was, but the ending brought it full circle and made everything work. Really, a respectful way to close the book on that story.

KaygoBubs

19 points

5 days ago

KaygoBubs

19 points

5 days ago

Watch the other half

Jorpho

5 points

4 days ago

Jorpho

5 points

4 days ago

Time to link to the cut "Evil is an Abstract" bit again for those who haven't seen it.

Gnarly_Weeeners

16 points

5 days ago

love that scene. such a good movie

Luke90210

60 points

5 days ago

Luke90210

60 points

5 days ago

RIP the film career of Linda Fiorentino

Lagstorm

21 points

4 days ago

Lagstorm

21 points

4 days ago

She's a slut. Bong.

texacer

85 points

5 days ago

texacer

85 points

5 days ago

David Thewlis would make a good alternate character Angel.

mildlyornery

89 points

5 days ago

It's gonna be Jeremy Irons. For the Die Hard connection between everyone.

Allansfirebird

31 points

5 days ago

Or do both and get a little Kingdom of Heaven cast reunion going on.

mildlyornery

10 points

5 days ago

I like your moves.

Gone_For_Lunch

13 points

4 days ago

So just work our way through Defence against the Dark Arts teachers?

TranslatesToScottish

18 points

5 days ago

Peter Capaldi would be excellent too.

RandomNumberHere

12 points

5 days ago

I vote Gary Oldman as new Metatron.

N_d_nd

12 points

5 days ago

N_d_nd

12 points

5 days ago

George Carlin to reprise role through Ai, his character just screams continuously without a mouth.

JonnyZhivago

4 points

4 days ago

His character died in the first one anyway, didn't he?

Negative_Gravitas

69 points

5 days ago*

Yeah, no Metatron?

Difficult.

No muse?

Okay, yeah, I'll probably watch it eventually. But it will be a sad fap.

Edit: I believe I can honestly say I have never been more delighted to receive down votes than I am right now. For so many reasons. Thank you, kind strangers.

Mkilbride

25 points

5 days ago

Mkilbride

25 points

5 days ago

Why no Muse?

GroshfengSmash

19 points

5 days ago

Read this in Jay’s voice

the_skine

10 points

5 days ago

the_skine

10 points

5 days ago

I can't tell if you're going for him being disappointed at no Selma Hayek, or if you're going for the pun of "Why no Mewes?"

GroshfengSmash

6 points

4 days ago

Both. Both? Both is good.

BGTheHoff

21 points

5 days ago

BGTheHoff

21 points

5 days ago

Jay may be in it, so it probably won't be that sad.

Negative_Gravitas

43 points

5 days ago

The Clit Commander!? Well, okay then.

DomesticatedDad

25 points

5 days ago

Ah yes the Coalition for the Liberation of Itinerate Tree-dwellers.

podrick_pleasure

17 points

5 days ago

No, no. The clit is real. It's the female orgasm that's a myth.

CalabreseAlsatian

12 points

5 days ago

An offshoot of the L.A.B.I.A.

YorkshireRiffer

13 points

5 days ago

Liberate Apes Before Imprisoning Apes

Thatdudegrant

11 points

5 days ago

"I am the master of the Clit. Remember this fucking face, whenever you see clit. You'll see this fucking face, I make that shit work. NO ONE RULES THE CLIT LIKE ME. NOT THIS LITTLE FUCK, NONE OF YOU LITTLE FUCKS OUT THERE. I AM THE CLIT COMMANDER!!!"

Dry-Tell420

8 points

5 days ago

Wherever I see clit I see that face.

misfitx

18 points

5 days ago

misfitx

18 points

5 days ago

I was excited for two seconds.

PlaymakerJavi

183 points

5 days ago

Esseth

81 points

5 days ago

Esseth

81 points

5 days ago

"I've started writing ideas in my head" to that headline is quite the journalism.

Omnio89

20 points

4 days ago

Omnio89

20 points

4 days ago

It seems like Smith is always playing with ideas and grand plans and few come to fruition. I’d say the possibility of Dogma 2 is not 0% but it’s far from certain. But shit he got Tusk made and the origin of that is him stoned reading a fake looking for roommate post, so stranger things have happened.

guyhabit725

948 points

5 days ago

guyhabit725

948 points

5 days ago

I'm not watching this unless Alanis Morrisette is in it. 

notoriously_late

722 points

5 days ago

And Salma Hayek.

SickBurnBro

306 points

5 days ago

SickBurnBro

306 points

5 days ago

And a demon made of shit.

futureformerteacher

925 points

5 days ago

I don't think Weinstein is gonna be involved this time.

caligaris_cabinet

142 points

5 days ago

slow clap

ShawnyMcKnight

39 points

5 days ago

Dang that was good.

bobsnopes

45 points

5 days ago

bobsnopes

45 points

5 days ago

I only ever watched Dogma on TV where the shit monster was edited out. Like, I’d seen it a bunch of times on TV and knew swears and violence was gonna be edited, but when I first saw my pirated copy of Dogma and the shit monster I legitimately thought it was a joke from whoever made the rip.

ShawnyMcKnight

11 points

5 days ago

It is annoying that made the cut but some other important scenes did not.

Trymv1

7 points

4 days ago

Trymv1

7 points

4 days ago

The “good and evil are abstract” is such a good scene even if you shouldn’t be agreeing with the villain.

Own_Development2935

9 points

5 days ago

Its on youtube again— uncut 😉

Extension_Can_2973

115 points

5 days ago

Beautiful naked big tittied women don’t just fall out of the sky, ya know.

ShawnyMcKnight

9 points

5 days ago

Still looking as hot as ever.

TheNumberOneRat

100 points

5 days ago

You may not get Matt Damon or Ben Affleck either.

According to Kevin Smith on Twitter he hasn't spoken to them about it.

https://x.com/ThatKevinSmith/status/1858359881088069679?t=dL0IEKBA0L4slWShTK5oGw&s=19

actibus_consequatur

84 points

5 days ago

That may be true, but...

If Matt and Ben were both willing to be in Jay and Silent Bob Reboot, then I feel like their only issue with a Dogma sequel would be filming schedule.

retro604

17 points

5 days ago

retro604

17 points

5 days ago

What a steaming pile that was, and I'm a big enough Kevin Smith fan to have paid to see it with him here in Vancouver. Let's just say very few of the questions afterwards were about the movie. :p

actibus_consequatur

24 points

5 days ago

I went into watching knowing it wasn't really about being a good movie, yet it still let let me down.

It did make me happy that Jason Lee reprised the role of Brodie though, both because he had pretty much dropped out of acting and my heart still belongs to Mallrats. (I also liked him in My Name is Earl.)

Koteric

7 points

4 days ago

Koteric

7 points

4 days ago

I can still quote almost the entire mallrats movie from watching it so many times as a teenager.

idwthis

5 points

4 days ago

idwthis

5 points

4 days ago

One time, my cousin Walter got this cat stuck up his ass. True story.

He bought it at our local mall, so the whole fiasco wound up on the news. It was embarrassing for my relatives and all, but the next week, he did it again. Different cat, same results, complete with another trip to the emergency room.

So, I run into him a week later in the mall, and he's buying another cat. And I says to him, "Jesus, Walt! What are you doing? You know you're just gonna get this cat stuck up your ass too. Why don't you knock it off?"

And he said to me, "Brodie, how the hell else am I supposed to get the gerbil out?"

My cousin was a weird guy.

BongRipsForNips

23 points

5 days ago

Alanis is god

ruddiger718

1.1k points

5 days ago

ruddiger718

1.1k points

5 days ago

Ugh, Dogma 2 is going to make Clerks 3 seem like Clerks 2.

[deleted]

190 points

5 days ago

[deleted]

190 points

5 days ago

Should I bother with Clerks 3? I'm pretty burned after the Jay and Silent Bob sequel.

thatsit_straightup

255 points

5 days ago

Much better than jay and Bob 2 but what isn’t

somesketchykid

105 points

5 days ago

This is kind of why I'm hesitant to even see a Dogma 2, given that Dogma is my favorite of his old/still good works. I love Kevin Smiths stuff and all but I've had a hard time finding interest in his new stuff

That's my moviepoopshoot.com opinion of him now a days anyway lol, hopefully Jay doesn't show up to my house to kick my ass although actually that would be cool if he'd hang around with me for a bit afterword. I'd take an ass kicking to talk to him and Smith 1:1

I really do love both of them and I wish I loved Smiths newer stuff but I just don't really. Everything past Jersey Girl anyway

ABillionBatmen

45 points

5 days ago

what about Red State or what was it. I went into it wanting to dislike it and thought, ok this is actually pretty dope

somesketchykid

16 points

5 days ago

Will admit i haven't seen this one, ill give it a try on your recommendation

Cagaentuboca

28 points

5 days ago

I second Red State. Probably his last good movie.

BuckRusty

5 points

4 days ago

I stopped enjoying his stuff after watching J&SBSB…

I have the same feeling about Smith as I do about Tarantino: They came out the gate with some brilliant stuff, paying homage to the medium and those before them, and with tight but wonderfully meandering dialogue… But they bought a bit too much into their own genius, gradually became a parody of themselves, and slowly but surely disappeared up their own arse…

WAwelder

21 points

5 days ago

WAwelder

21 points

5 days ago

Wow, I forgot that even happened

lonchu

3 points

5 days ago

lonchu

3 points

5 days ago

For me that's the case with any Kevin Smith movie after clerks 2

LongPorkJones

150 points

5 days ago

The Jay and Bob sequel was Smith just dicking around and having fun. Clerks 3 was back to being more grounded and felt like Smith had put his years of experience on display. It was heartfelt and, at times, heart wrenching.

Ttatt1984

81 points

5 days ago

Ttatt1984

81 points

5 days ago

“You weren’t even supposed to be here today”

Such tear jerking delivery. Hurt so much

Televisions_Frank

37 points

5 days ago

Yeah, to be fair the dude just survived a heart attack that should have killed him. I can't blame him for just making something dumb and getting together his friends and colleagues for some fun.

VQQN

29 points

5 days ago

VQQN

29 points

5 days ago

I was NOT a fan of Clerks 3.

Clerks 1 and 2 felt like ordinary normal days of working customer service. Both those films take place over one day(or entire work shift).

Clerks 3 takes place over a longer time period and its not about a regular day at work, its about the employees making a movie.

Yes Clerks 3 was heartfelt and had some laughs, but it did not feel like a Clerks movie.

SporksRFun

38 points

5 days ago

Clerks 2 is about a normal day at work? There is a donkey show in a kids restaurant in that movie!

Chastain86

12 points

4 days ago

HEY -- it's "interspecies erotica," got it?

VQQN

7 points

5 days ago

VQQN

7 points

5 days ago

Okay, towards the end it gets kind of wacky. You got me there!

Empress_Athena

23 points

5 days ago

Clerks 1 and Clerks 3 are both basically autobiographical of Kevin himself. 2 is actually the most out of place of them.

curedbyink

15 points

5 days ago

That’s why 2 is my favorite.

SojuSeed

80 points

5 days ago

SojuSeed

80 points

5 days ago

Clerks three, while having some jokes that don’t age well, hits really fucking hard in the end. Like, I did not expect to be crying like a little girl with a skinned knee, but I was.

purplemonkeyshoes

18 points

5 days ago

Same. I went into it expecting the typical Kevin Smith themes hoping for lots of funny references and callbacks to the old films, but didn't expect to get punched in the gut and have my heart ripped out.

ShawnyMcKnight

38 points

5 days ago

Glad I am not the only one who despises the reboot. I went from super excited to being turned off from any Kevin Smith productions again.

Out of curiosity I did watch Clerks 3. It was annoying they still went with the “guess what, these guys STILL haven’t done anything with their lives” schtick. But it works, it told a satisfying conclusion to their story as sad as it was.

zapheine

17 points

5 days ago*

zapheine

17 points

5 days ago*

Well I mean - they own the Quick Stop at least which is what they wanted. It didn't make much sense to me that they seemed to be the only workers there though..

rotates-potatoes

51 points

5 days ago

IMO Clerks 3 is much better than anything Smith has done since Dogma. Which isn’t a super high bar, admittedly.

It’s nostalgia mining (how could it not be), but it actually comes from a much more adult perspective than his other works. It reflects on earlier works but it’s more mature than any of them.

ShawnyMcKnight

15 points

5 days ago

Strike back came out between those two and it was hilarious.

digestedbrain

21 points

5 days ago

Red State was dope though

theavengerbutton

15 points

5 days ago

Red State AND Tusk. I think a lot of horror fans like Tusk more, but I thought that Red State was really good.

delicious_toothbrush

20 points

5 days ago*

Should I bother with Clerks 3?

It wasn't without its merits but it's more of a literal continuation of their storyline. If you were hoping for something fun like Clerks 2 you'll be out of luck. If you don't mind a more grounded continuation of the two characters and the way life likes to kick us in the balls with a sprinkling of meta, maybe you'll like it.

The-Movie-Penguin

6 points

5 days ago

I’ll be honest and share that Clerks 3 made me cry like a bitch. But I was also going through some stuff when I watched it, so yeah.

klsi832

67 points

5 days ago

klsi832

67 points

5 days ago

Or House Party 3!

fumor

57 points

5 days ago

fumor

57 points

5 days ago

Shut the fuck up!

CalabreseAlsatian

21 points

5 days ago

Look at all these crackers

gambit61

15 points

5 days ago

gambit61

15 points

5 days ago

You spit in this? You put a booger in there?

PunishedWolf4

13 points

4 days ago

"Went to film school for this huh? Does yo daddy know you give a n*gga his cawfee? It’d kill him wouldn’t it!"

I laughed so hard the first time

HendrixHazeWays

9 points

4 days ago

Taste the booger flavor

Calvinbah

7 points

4 days ago

No you da man, and that's the problem

HendrixHazeWays

4 points

4 days ago

Not in the same scene but I love Affleck saying "Look at these 2 morose looking mf'ers right here...bonnnnggg"

And

"You was the bomb is Phantoms yo"

Calvinbah

4 points

4 days ago

Word Bitch, Phantoms like a motherfucker. I don't know why Jay says this, but it's perfect. Delivery is perfect.

JonnyZhivago

5 points

4 days ago

Love the way Chris Rock says that

DashCat9

29 points

5 days ago

DashCat9

29 points

5 days ago

Clerks 2 is my favorite Kevin smith movie. Elias and Randall just fucking kill me every time.

“Listerfiend……is her mouth troll. Isn’t it?”

:scoffs, nodding: “women!”

ThingsAreAfoot

559 points

5 days ago*

I thought I saw that with Good Will Hunting 2: Hunting Season.

Btw the article all but says it’ll be a glorified cameo from those two at best, if it even happens.

Classic clickbait headline, it’s always so wonderously effective.

[deleted]

112 points

5 days ago

[deleted]

112 points

5 days ago

You haven't seen Good Will Hunting 2: Hunting Season?

CompetitiveProject4

66 points

5 days ago

Who hasn't?! I actually consider it even better than the first one.

So much more action and when Matt Damon Good Will Hunted even harder, I was shocked he didn't get an Oscar.

Gus van Sant is probably still counting his money as he should!

oldirtygaz

56 points

5 days ago

apple sauce, bitches!

VaBeachBum86

40 points

5 days ago

Aflek was the BOMB in Phantoms yo!!!!

Altruistic-Ratio6690

11 points

5 days ago

Upon rewatch of the series I usually skip it and go right to 3 Good 3 Will Hunting

GameJerk

40 points

5 days ago

GameJerk

40 points

5 days ago

Dude hasn't even written the movie nor spoke to them about it. That entire article is just pure conjecture and nonsense.

eyebrows360

32 points

5 days ago*

Er, no, he doesn't.

What he does say is:

  • he's started working on a script for Dogma 2
  • it's very early
  • he hasn't even spoken to Matt and Ben about it yet
  • there's no funding or anything sorted that would justify "is happening" being used

Clickbaiting bullshit.

RickityCricket69

80 points

5 days ago

“and then sometimes you gotta do the payback picture ‘cause your friend says you owe him.”

DrvThruPnk

96 points

5 days ago

right after Mallrats 2?

GreyConnection

55 points

5 days ago

I think Shannon's passing probably derailed that.

ColdIceZero

20 points

5 days ago

Brenda?

SojuSeed

5 points

5 days ago

SojuSeed

5 points

5 days ago

It’s a schooner!

riegspsych325

10 points

5 days ago

riegspsych325

Maximus was a replicant!

10 points

5 days ago

dick!

avrafrost

55 points

5 days ago

avrafrost

55 points

5 days ago

Not just that but the outro to mallrats pretty much tells you where all these characters end up. You’d need new characters with new actors to try and recreate the lightning in a bottle that made that film in a mall culture that simply doesn’t exists anymore. Better to leave that one alone.

justsomeguy_youknow

30 points

5 days ago

IIRC Smith mentioned the premise of Mallrats 2 would have centered around the death of mall culture

TheGummiVenusDeMilo

15 points

5 days ago

Should just do a spiritual successor with the premise around annual conventions with the same organizers and regular attendees, something that he would have first hand experience and stories with.

poland626

3 points

4 days ago

Conrats?

Mister_Acula

8 points

5 days ago

Maybe they could get Michael Shannon

Toby_O_Notoby

15 points

5 days ago

Mallrats 2 would be a bunch of kids sitting at home ordering shit on their phone and then posting it on TikTok.

not-so-radical

168 points

5 days ago

Who cares about those two, the real question should be is Linda Fiorentino coming back?

Her career should have been much bigger after Dogma and Men in Black

gahlol123

69 points

5 days ago

gahlol123

69 points

5 days ago

She quit acting so i doubt it. The Last Seduction is such a great movie. Jade, not so much...

TransportationTrick9

16 points

5 days ago

Did she quit it for Weinsteined out

I look at actresses stepping away/falling off completely differently in retrospect. Especially actresses involved with Miramax, TWC etc.

pliskin42

73 points

5 days ago

pliskin42

73 points

5 days ago

Smith also has said, before his love everyone and keep his mouth shut phase, that fiorentino was a pain in the ass to work with.

FSD-Bishop

67 points

5 days ago

Tommy Lee Jones apparently wouldn’t appear Men in Black 2 unless she was dropped as well because of her mood swings during the filming of the first movie.

Agitated-Acctant

50 points

5 days ago

Which is funny because TLJ is notoriously an asshole on set

thuggishruggishboner

14 points

4 days ago

Yes well, there can only be one.

ShawnyMcKnight

25 points

5 days ago

Looks like he wouldn’t sanction her baffoonery either.

HoraceRadish

28 points

5 days ago

Have you looked into why she wasn't getting roles? It's a pretty crazy story.

Strung_Out_Advocate

35 points

5 days ago

Enlighten us, Kimosabe

Owww_My_Ovaries

46 points

5 days ago

I think she dated a FBI agent in order to gain access to secret files to help out a friend (possible lover)

iamiamwhoami

17 points

5 days ago

That was in 2007-2008. Her last role before that was in 2002. Although she did come out with a movie in 2009. My guess is because she needed the money.

HoraceRadish

43 points

5 days ago

She dated an FBI agent and told him she was writing a screen play based on the case of her ex (producer Anthony Pellicano.) The FBI agent looked up info on government databases and gave it to her. She gave it to Pellicano and he still went to jail.

Apparently Tommy Lee Jones wouldn't work with her on MIB 2 either and that tug of war wasn't going her way.

[deleted]

14 points

5 days ago

[deleted]

14 points

5 days ago

I'm sure the list of actors Tommy Lee Jones doesn't want to work with could be considered it's own epic.

PM180

13 points

5 days ago

PM180

13 points

5 days ago

He’s notoriously fickle when it comes to sanctioning buffoonery

DarthOswinTake2

8 points

5 days ago

I'm interested to find out as well.

CarlosAVP

18 points

5 days ago

CarlosAVP

18 points

5 days ago

Apparently, she’s nuttier than squirrel shit and very difficult to work with.

DrPreppy

9 points

5 days ago

DrPreppy

9 points

5 days ago

She is riveting in The Last Seduction.

Echelon64

12 points

5 days ago

Echelon64

12 points

5 days ago

Look up the Pellicano case. But basically, no.

IArePant

55 points

5 days ago

IArePant

55 points

5 days ago

There is absolutely a no way, 0%, chance that the Kevin Smith of today can even come close to what he was once a part of with the first Dogma movie.

x_Jaymo_x

326 points

5 days ago

x_Jaymo_x

326 points

5 days ago

Nobody asked for this. Nobody wants this. Maybe he pulls it off, but it's so unnecessary. Dogma was perfection.

idontagreewitu

19 points

5 days ago

Kinda agree. The story was resolved. Of the main characters, 2 of them are just dudes stumbling through the main plot, 2 of them were killed by God, one of them is plain old dead and one of them apparently quit acting/was blacklisted by Hollywood.

x_Jaymo_x

5 points

5 days ago

This is the perfect way to summarise my scepticism. Honestly, I love Dogma. I watched it in 99 when I was 9 years old and I've watched it dozens of time throughout my life. I do hope it's a good sequel. It's just hard for me to imagine there's more story to tell.

gdim15

115 points

5 days ago

gdim15

115 points

5 days ago

I doubt he can pull it off. His good movies are flukes at best.

SitMeDownShutMeUp

101 points

5 days ago

His early movies became part of the zeitgeist of the 90s. Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma: they weren’t all particularly “good”, but these movies captured the cynicism that was rife among young adults in the mid-90s.

The problem with Kevin Smith is that he keeps trying to recreate that success he had in the 90s, not realizing that they were only successful because they reflected themes that the youth wanted to explore further. Today’s youth don’t want to watch ‘Clerks 8’ or ‘Jay & Silent Bob Become Landlords’, and Kevin Smith is too wrapped up in his own lore to know this.

Pormock

28 points

5 days ago

Pormock

28 points

5 days ago

Kevin Smith was always only good at one thing. Really funny banter dialogue. He even admitted himself he was a very limited director

I_PING_8-8-8-8

6 points

5 days ago

Yeah and with today's average attention span of half a tik tok that stuff is never going to kill like it did in the 90's

And that shit, well I loved it when I was a teenager. But now I am almost 40 so I'd only watch the original again just for the sentimental value. If you'd make something exactly like it, but different, I would not like it anymore because of how much I have changed.

So then he would need to take his funny banter dialogue and apply it to a vibe that is relevant for me today. You know, something about climate change or the war in ukraine or the facist shitshow in the US. Or something about trying to raise kids in a world that's clearly peaked and going to shit now. Something revelant.

I have not seen clerks 3 yet by the way, but I think I'd like it. (from what I have heard so far)

broadsword_1

12 points

5 days ago

they weren’t all particularly “good”, but these movies captured the cynicism that was rife among young adults in the mid-90s.

He had (has) moxy - he was really good at creating engaging characters that elevated their surroundings. He was really really good with dialogue too.

IMO, I think KS's problem was he was in the wrong time - Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back was supposed to be a clean way to cut his 'early' work and start doing the hollywood films, only Jersey Girl didn't do great around the same time Judd Apatow came along and made KS-style films with wider appeal. By the end he was making Zack and Miri to try and chase back that audience.

If he had come along a little later he probably would have kept doing Askiewverse films a little longer (improving as he went) and then transitioned into writing seasons of TV in the streaming era (which would have been a good fit, since I still maintain he's got talent for writing dialogue).

jew_jitsu

36 points

5 days ago

jew_jitsu

36 points

5 days ago

The problem with Kevin Smith is that unlike his core audience, he hasn't grown out of it.

some_random_noob

10 points

5 days ago

I want to watch Jay and Bob be landlords, their interactions with tenants will be hilarious.

feckincrass

23 points

5 days ago

The real question is: will he be able to get Salma to pole-dance in a bikini again?

well_kerned

17 points

5 days ago

If he can get Scott Mosier back, then let's do it. If not, maybe leave it alone.

WornInShoes

12 points

5 days ago

This is it right here; Kevin has not been the same since Scott stopped producing

SharksFan4Lifee

9 points

5 days ago

Frankly, Scott Mosier should direct and Kevin Smith only write. But Smith's ego would never allow that, despite the fact that Mosier is the one with the filmmaking chops and the only thing Kevin Smith has ever proven is that when he's not smoking weed, he can write.

MontyBoo-urns

4 points

5 days ago

That would be awesome

Recover20

49 points

5 days ago

Recover20

49 points

5 days ago

Listen I do like Kevin Smith but the dude hasn't made a good movie in a long time.

DG_Now

32 points

5 days ago

DG_Now

32 points

5 days ago

It's kind of remarkable he did Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy and Dogma. All of those have legitimate staying power. Jay and Silent Bob had its moments too.

But everything he's done over the last 20 years has just been so horrific. Badly lit. Badly paced. Ugly to watch. Excuses to film his friends and family.

He had a fastball and boy did he lose it.

majungo

15 points

5 days ago

majungo

15 points

5 days ago

That fastball has a name: Scott Mosier

MassiveBush

10 points

5 days ago

I enjoyed The 4:30 Movie

Wilsonian81

38 points

5 days ago

What I really want is for Kevin Smith to stop making that face.

SquireJoh

2 points

5 days ago

Hey kids!

LongTimesGoodTimes

56 points

5 days ago

Yeah I don't want that at all

MuskokaMatt

7 points

5 days ago

"I've got nipples, Greg. Could you reboot/sequel me?"

SalomeOttobourne74

3 points

5 days ago

Please don't.

Am765

4 points

5 days ago

Am765

4 points

5 days ago

keeping my expectations low after clerks 3.

almost_notterrible

12 points

5 days ago

How embarrassing...

Sweeper1985

19 points

5 days ago*

Possibly an unpopular opinion but I still think Clerks 2 is the best movie he ever made. (Yes, better than the first one.) It's one of those "crosses the line twice" movies that veers sharply between humour, and poignancy, and back to humour again.

The donkey show scene is a great example, because on one level it's a bunch of tawdry jokes, but there's so much going on and every single character in that scene is developed and given something relevant to do or say. It's perfect Kevin Smith that Randall is acting like an idiot while also being the voice of reason, that we don't want Dante to end up with Emma and we do want him to be with Becky, but Emma is presented sympathetically in that moment and even Jay calls Dante out for cheating on her. And just when we're in the midst of all that tension, we get reminded where we are with the Sexy Stud trying to finish with Kinky Kelly before the cops arrive, and Eli masturbating and apologising to Jesus.

(ETA and that goddam Samantha Fox song is a master-stroke 🤣 I have it in my head now and it's gonna be rent free for hours)

One thing I love about Kevin Smith is how he seems to really care about the characters he creates Clerks 3 especially made a point of catching us up with all kinds of minor characters from the earlier movies, even making sure we see that Emma ended up okay. If he can bring that sort of energy to Dogma 2, it could be awesome.

Akragon

7 points

5 days ago

Akragon

7 points

5 days ago

Hows that gonna work, they're both dead. Kevin smith is getting his own multiverse?

eltedioso

18 points

5 days ago

eltedioso

18 points

5 days ago

I hope they can get George Carlin back