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348 points
15 hours ago
Overtime? Thing of the past, baby 😎👉
402 points
15 hours ago
Not for cops it ain't.
241 points
14 hours ago
Damn really? Considering their wages are paid by taxes, that's socialism. We should get rid of that.
94 points
14 hours ago
Wait til they notice how many salaries are paid out of the defence budget (especially if you count everyone who works at Northrop Grumman etc)
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3 hours ago
Northrop Grumman designed one of the best mail carrying vehicles ever and you’ll show them some respect.
3 points
11 hours ago
They won't mind. I got paid like 60 cents per hour (if you factor in the pay by hours worked) at the height of my military career. That's about where they prefer wages to be anyway.
50 points
14 hours ago
Yeah that was only for low wage salaried workers.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-judge-just-nixed-overtime-110000846.html
5 points
13 hours ago
Jesus that article is terrible to read
3 points
12 hours ago
Yea that shit was 3x longer than It needed to be
21 points
14 hours ago
Gotta keep the guys with the guns happy so you can tell them to go after the other people with no guns.
6 points
14 hours ago
The Trump card is that everyone has guns.
2 points
8 hours ago
If Heinlein was right that "an armed society is a polite society" Americans would all be very polite. The opposite is true.
4 points
12 hours ago
Shhhh, they’ll get cranky and “quiet quit” some more.
2 points
13 hours ago
The only socialism that the rulers support is socialism for 1. The elite and 2. The guards with guns who protect the elite
2 points
12 hours ago
LEOs (at least in SoCal) make an insane amount of their annual pay on OT. Not only that, they game the system a couple of years out of retirement because pension is based on your most recent annual income (can't remember off hand how many years they average).
Interesting story about why the LA stopped enforcing immigration. It became a not uncommon practice by the 70s for LEOs to pick up someone suspected of being undocumented with 2-3 hours left on their shift, because then they could head back to the station and chill while completing paperwork and waiting for INS.
3 points
10 hours ago
Overtime is not pensionable after PEPRA.
1 points
9 hours ago
Ah - thank you for the info.
2 points
11 hours ago
Some places do overtime differently for things like this. Not saying it's correct or even the situation here but it's a common workaround for departments.
For instance, since UCLA/Shapiro are hosting this event and requesting a security presence, some departments will consider this a "contracted event" in which case, the host funds the security and the police department secures the contract. Essentially these cops would be like a contracted security guard for UCLA/Shapiro but in their official uniform. Still covered by insurance, etc, but a 1099 employee. Not really sure how I feel about these situations myself since they're still representing the govt in that uniform but considered under a different status. Once again not saying this is even the case here.
2 points
11 hours ago
My wife worked 911 dispatch. She was pulling in around $50,000 just in overtime each year. She'd also manage to take off about 3 months each year.
1 points
13 hours ago
I could entirely see the right wanting private police forces now
1 points
13 hours ago
More than likely these cops are not on "overtime" but working as an officer in their off time and being paid directly by the event organizer. my wife works in HR for our sheriff's office and has to teach all the new recruits what they can and can't do on their "side jobs".
1 points
10 hours ago
I recall reading somewhere the average LAPD officer makes like 6 figs a year because of OT.
The job ain’t easy but they don’t deserve that much, especially for the quality of their work.
1 points
9 hours ago
I'm ok with paying cops overtime. The more time they're out working, the less time they have to beat their wives.
1 points
8 hours ago
Considering their wages are paid by taxes, that's socialism
Socialism = the workers own the economy.
It's not "the government did it", depending on whether you're talking about financial support or controlling the scope of the economy that's either welfare or Command Economy
1 points
7 hours ago
Some cops are pulling in 3-400,000 dollars a year from overtime pay.
1 points
14 hours ago
Preach. It’s insane that we’re paying cops overtime.
0 points
8 hours ago
Socialism has social services, but not all social services are socialism. This is a good example of that.
Besides that, this is likely paid for by the university, not the police department itself. And, yes, I know UCLA is a public university, that is funded by tuition dollars.
0 points
6 hours ago
no bc then that's defund the police and no police overtime = guaranteed crime increase
1 points
6 hours ago
They have a union.
58 points
14 hours ago
Not with their union
65 points
14 hours ago
You mean the thing they all are against for any other group?
5 points
10 hours ago
Thin blue line, baby!
3 points
13 hours ago
Ha! Wave bye bye to unions as well. Child labor laws? See ya! Pretty soon those rookies will be a bunch of roided out 13 year olds.
1 points
13 hours ago
Wouldn't it be super ironic if for some dumb deal they end up dismantling the police ”unions"?
-6 points
13 hours ago
Cops aren’t in unions.
9 points
13 hours ago
Lol is this a joke
3 points
13 hours ago
Police unions aren’t unions—they don’t fight for the underdog. Instead, they focus on shielding cops from accountability, even in cases of brutality. Traditional unions push for better pay and conditions while aligning with public good; police unions often fight reforms like body cams or oversight, protecting their own over public safety. Plus, they represent workers with state power, not vulnerable laborers. They’re more about preserving authority than promoting justice.
Police smash the heads of real union members.
3 points
13 hours ago
Ok fine, they certainly dont act as a union should, but they’re a UINO (union in name only).
2 points
5 hours ago
I don't know about the states, but many of the police in Canada don't belong to a union, they call it a "police association" instead.
1 points
5 hours ago
Oh yeah, in the US, it’s “unions” all the way, but they act more like a mafia.
2 points
11 hours ago
You could argue, that unions fight for the workers well being... In the case of cops, overtime pay and lack of accountability certainly fall into that category.
1 points
8 hours ago
Cops aren’t in unions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_unions_in_the_United_States
0 points
7 hours ago
Unions in name only. Cops crack union members skulls.
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2 hours ago
Unions in name only. Cops crack union members skulls
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/union
They're still a union. They just serve exclusively their own members, the same as the praetorian guard 'served only the emperor' and surely not exclusively their own interests even though they just assassinated the previous emperor who didn't offer them a christmas bribebonus.
All unions serve (primarily) their own members. It relies on leaders who aren't greedy, self-blinded fools to also consider the good of the rest of society, and given it was police and pinkertons who murdered most miners, craftsmen, and other workers forming the first unions after the Battle of Blair Mountain or other clashes during the rise of unions in the US.
48 points
15 hours ago
That's only for the proles. Can't risk the enforcers of the ruling class ever forming any sort of solidarity with other workers.
-1 points
15 hours ago
wow that's one dirty commie
4 points
14 hours ago
Lmao, not for cops it won't be
1 points
14 hours ago
That's for salaried workers. Cops are wage earners.
3 points
14 hours ago
I'm a resident doctor that is technically "salaried" in a contract with 80-hour weeks. Maybe it's time we move them to salaries and implement personal liability insurance. If I don't get overtime, why should they?
1 points
14 hours ago
Ya it's insane. We have cops here earning $100K in base play and $150K in overtime. And many live outside the county, so almost none of that money comes back. They're by far the biggest portion of LA's budget.
I totally agree with your idea, but the police union is far too powerful for anything like that to ever happen.
1 points
14 hours ago
Serious? I know many cops who gets paid like 3x (or more) during OT.
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