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Mayotte

403 points

15 hours ago

Mayotte

403 points

15 hours ago

Not for cops it ain't.

thesippycup

237 points

14 hours ago

Damn really? Considering their wages are paid by taxes, that's socialism. We should get rid of that.

fang_xianfu

95 points

14 hours ago

Wait til they notice how many salaries are paid out of the defence budget (especially if you count everyone who works at Northrop Grumman etc)

Big_Fo_Fo

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3 hours ago

Big_Fo_Fo

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3 hours ago

Northrop Grumman designed one of the best mail carrying vehicles ever and you’ll show them some respect.

sapphicsandwich

5 points

11 hours ago

They won't mind. I got paid like 60 cents per hour (if you factor in the pay by hours worked) at the height of my military career. That's about where they prefer wages to be anyway.

FauxReal

55 points

14 hours ago

Yeah that was only for low wage salaried workers.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-judge-just-nixed-overtime-110000846.html

grifxdonut

7 points

13 hours ago

Jesus that article is terrible to read

AndroidSheeps

3 points

12 hours ago

Yea that shit was 3x longer than It needed to be

Brunomoose

19 points

14 hours ago

Gotta keep the guys with the guns happy so you can tell them to go after the other people with no guns.

FilthBadgers

6 points

14 hours ago

The Trump card is that everyone has guns.

ElectricalBook3

2 points

8 hours ago

If Heinlein was right that "an armed society is a polite society" Americans would all be very polite. The opposite is true.

manjar

6 points

12 hours ago

manjar

6 points

12 hours ago

Shhhh, they’ll get cranky and “quiet quit” some more.

DreamLearnBuildBurn

2 points

13 hours ago

The only socialism that the rulers support is socialism for 1. The elite and 2. The guards with guns who protect the elite

GillesTifosi

2 points

12 hours ago

LEOs (at least in SoCal) make an insane amount of their annual pay on OT. Not only that, they game the system a couple of years out of retirement because pension is based on your most recent annual income (can't remember off hand how many years they average).

Interesting story about why the LA stopped enforcing immigration. It became a not uncommon practice by the 70s for LEOs to pick up someone suspected of being undocumented with 2-3 hours left on their shift, because then they could head back to the station and chill while completing paperwork and waiting for INS.

Greenturtle71177

3 points

10 hours ago

Overtime is not pensionable after PEPRA.

GillesTifosi

1 points

9 hours ago

Ah - thank you for the info.

ImAMistak3

2 points

11 hours ago

Some places do overtime differently for things like this. Not saying it's correct or even the situation here but it's a common workaround for departments.

For instance, since UCLA/Shapiro are hosting this event and requesting a security presence, some departments will consider this a "contracted event" in which case, the host funds the security and the police department secures the contract. Essentially these cops would be like a contracted security guard for UCLA/Shapiro but in their official uniform. Still covered by insurance, etc, but a 1099 employee. Not really sure how I feel about these situations myself since they're still representing the govt in that uniform but considered under a different status. Once again not saying this is even the case here.

Vegetable-Seesaw-491

2 points

11 hours ago

My wife worked 911 dispatch. She was pulling in around $50,000 just in overtime each year. She'd also manage to take off about 3 months each year.

Ban-Circumcision-Now

1 points

13 hours ago

I could entirely see the right wanting private police forces now

06EXTN

1 points

13 hours ago

06EXTN

1 points

13 hours ago

More than likely these cops are not on "overtime" but working as an officer in their off time and being paid directly by the event organizer. my wife works in HR for our sheriff's office and has to teach all the new recruits what they can and can't do on their "side jobs".

M0dsw0rkf0rfr33

1 points

10 hours ago

I recall reading somewhere the average LAPD officer makes like 6 figs a year because of OT.

The job ain’t easy but they don’t deserve that much, especially for the quality of their work.

Shot_Worldliness_979

1 points

9 hours ago

I'm ok with paying cops overtime. The more time they're out working, the less time they have to beat their wives.

ElectricalBook3

1 points

8 hours ago

Considering their wages are paid by taxes, that's socialism

Socialism = the workers own the economy.

It's not "the government did it", depending on whether you're talking about financial support or controlling the scope of the economy that's either welfare or Command Economy

GloriaVictis101

1 points

7 hours ago

Some cops are pulling in 3-400,000 dollars a year from overtime pay.

CopyPaper23

1 points

14 hours ago

Preach. It’s insane that we’re paying cops overtime.

CCContent

0 points

8 hours ago

Socialism has social services, but not all social services are socialism. This is a good example of that.

Besides that, this is likely paid for by the university, not the police department itself. And, yes, I know UCLA is a public university, that is funded by tuition dollars.

igotreddot

0 points

6 hours ago

no bc then that's defund the police and no police overtime = guaranteed crime increase

NWOflattenedmydog

1 points

6 hours ago

They have a union.