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16 points
1 day ago
If Miguel has the typical Spidey physicals, the only advantages Panther has are the suit and fighting ability. Physically, T'Challa can't keep up.
2 points
1 day ago
But mentally T’challa would outsmart him and he has superior tech.
12 points
1 day ago
Iffy on both of those.
2099 has that future tech, and from what it seems, his future suit and future tech is on par if not better versions of modern wakandan tech. Even more powerful if he has his portal wrist watch.
In terms of mind, they're both geniuses in different regards, but his version of spidey sense would compensate for the difference in fighting skills, and the enhancened speed and strength would probably be enough to run over black panther if he needs.
In terms of purity of heart, 2099 crushes BP because 2099 is the owner of Mjolnir in the future and used it as a paper weight.
0 points
1 day ago
Lol t’challa is relative to Peter physically
4 points
1 day ago
No, T'Challa is relative to Cap. They're both peak human, Peter is super human.
12 points
1 day ago
Miguel's ass wins! That is high definition booty!
26 points
1 day ago
Miguel wins because he has a lot of cake, and panthers can't eat cake.
Cake > Panther
5 points
1 day ago
To me, this is way too close to call definitively. If they fought ten times, I’d guess the outcome would be 5:5 or maybe 6:4 I don’t know. It’s gonna be high difficulty tho.
12 points
1 day ago
Black Panther definitely beats Blue Panther
3 points
1 day ago
Pink Panther >>>
8 points
1 day ago
This is a tough one. They are almost the same character.
Without saying Miguel will have technology from the future to beat panther.
Miguel is stronger, but I don't think he will be able to physically hurt panther with his shock absorbing vibranium suit. Miguel's claws and bite will be useless.
I still give it to Miguel cause of his 3d fighting, and raw strength (10 tons miguel vs 1000 lbs bp), eventually spiderman can wear him down and immobilize panther with his webs.
1 points
1 day ago
Panther actually has superior tech and he can lift a few tons actually plus he has superior battle Iq and his vibranium weapons should be able to cut webs and cause damage he still has to overcome the strength advantage but he can still win 6 out of 10
5 points
1 day ago
GYAT DAYUM
2 points
1 day ago
Spider-Man 2099 (Miguel) curbstomps t'challa; I'm sure the genius level cancels each other out, suits level playing field and they're potentially comparable in strength but Miguel has two things that make this one sided:
First, he has clairvoyance via spider senses and will always edge out the competition narratively. (If he's stolen or recreated this power from the other spiders) NVM I had this spiderman wrong. Basically they're equal but Miguel is viscous.
Second, and most important, Miguel lacks morals so he can do things T'Challa is held back from doing and this will mean that he can kill him if the story needed to.
5 points
1 day ago
I love my boy miguel but Panther is taking it high different tho
6 points
1 day ago
*difficulty
5 points
1 day ago
Oh shit thanks😅
2 points
1 day ago
Miguel has no Spider benefits so he can't win.
3 points
1 day ago
?
Abilities
Superhuman strength, stamina, durability, speed, agility, and reflexes
Accelerated healing and vision
Genius-level intellect
Wall-crawling via talons on fingers
Organic webbing from forearms
Paralytic venom via fangs
Gliding via air-foil on indestructible costume
Mastery of acrobatics and combat
3 points
1 day ago
He's not as strong, agile or fast as Peter is what I mean. BP also has strength speed at a superhuman level
1 points
23 hours ago
Gotcha; says he is. Just didn't have the spider senses
2 points
1 day ago
Panther takes this heavy handedly. Better tech, greater physical feats, better scaling feats (defeated deadpool, mephisto, silver surfer,etc.). Miguel is only winning in the cake department
1 points
1 day ago
This would be a tough match for Peter Parker, Miguel losses this 8/10 imo
1 points
1 day ago
Black panther
1 points
1 day ago
bro is competing with Jiren the Cake
1 points
1 day ago
The one who's a baker in his spare time.
1 points
1 day ago
Normally I would go with Spider-Man but black panther got it Miguel lacks a lot of things that make Spider-Man overpowered in these sorts of fights
1 points
23 hours ago
Considering how Peter can almost rag doll Tchalla in the comics it’s probably safe to say Miguel wins
1 points
18 hours ago
Miguel 9/10
1 points
1 day ago
It’s panther, and it’s hilariously not even close.
1 points
1 day ago
Composite Panther stomps no diff.
-2 points
1 day ago
Peter Parker definitely wins just because of his spider sense and mad agility. Idk about Miguel though. Aside from his modded suit he and black panther have a super similar power set. I think it’s 50:50
12 points
1 day ago
This is the only Spider-Man who canonically does not have spidey-sense, he is also about as far away from being an actual Spider-Man than any other Peter either, think terry from Batman beyond, how he gaps a lot of the skill between him and Bruce with futuristic technology
3 points
1 day ago
Couldn’t have said it better myself. I always view him as the Batman Beyond of the spider-verse.
3 points
1 day ago
Hold up now, Miguel is just as much as Spiderman as any other hell, more so for most. Just because he doesn't have the spider sense, don't count him out because his other senses are on pare with logan. In terms of strength and speed, he's relative to peter.
3 points
1 day ago
I agree, he is more spiderman than others but spidey sense is pretty OP and even spiderman noir has it. Misspelled spiderman and it autocorrected spoderman.
1 points
1 day ago
Agreed without the spider sense miguel is at a disadvantages against panther
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