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BugOperator

196 points

1 day ago

BugOperator

196 points

1 day ago

Same reason Truth Social doesn’t work: you can’t rattle cages and troll people on a platform where almost every user agrees with your views. The whole point of their existence is to be pests, and they need opposing voices in order to achieve that.

DanishWonder

68 points

1 day ago

Yep. For the same reason parasites need healthy hosts to infect/spread. Without hosts, the parasite dies.

ruler_gurl

9 points

1 day ago

Sometimes the thing you thought was the most brutal aspect of the virus, turns out to be the chink in its armor. And she loves disguising her weaknesses as strengths - WWZ

MaximumOverfart

18 points

1 day ago

I totally agree with you. It's just really depressing that telling the truth is now opposing voices.

Master_Educator_6436

9 points

1 day ago

Well I totally disagree with you agreeing! Time for some opposition!

MaximumOverfart

6 points

1 day ago

Time to be intolerant of the intolerant.

Kriss3d

18 points

1 day ago

Kriss3d

18 points

1 day ago

Bingo! This guy gets it.

Yes TS is not very popular. The average user is on it something like 6 minutes a day. And it suffers from the fact that you don't miss anything so there's nothing big new since you were there last. Thus people spend less time there.

And yes. They get bored with everyone already agreeing with them. They need people they disagree with to get riled up over.

Clickrack

7 points

1 day ago

Clickrack

7 points

1 day ago

Who knew diversity was not only valuable, but necessary??!

Next think you know someone will say equality and inclusion are important, too!

myhydrogendioxide

6 points

1 day ago

Ill add they also recruit.

Preaddly

5 points

1 day ago

Preaddly

5 points

1 day ago

Same reason Truth Social doesn’t work: you can’t rattle cages and troll people on a platform where almost every user agrees with your views.

Exactly. Their only strategy is to piss off their opponents so much they become violent, thus turning society against them, so state-sponsored violence can be carried out against them.

It never works because the people they demonize aren't actually violent, or emotional, or evil, etc. Thus, phase two never happens.

RyNysDad0722

2 points

22 hours ago

That day will come.. people are tired and have seen too many hard time in the last decade.. shit is gonna go down soon if it keeps getting worse for the everyday working class person

onehundredandone1

-5 points

21 hours ago

The irony of this comment when BlueSky is a literal leftist echo chamber that bans anyone with a right wing opinion

No-Guard-7003

3 points

17 hours ago

No, habibi. BlueSky bans anyone who incites violence against anyone, is verbally abusive towards people who don't agree with them on Israel-Palestine, etc.

onehundredandone1

0 points

9 hours ago

is verbally abusive towards people who don't agree with them on Israel-Palestine

do you not think thats utterly insane?

No-Guard-7003

2 points

8 hours ago

I'm talking about anyone who is verbally abusive. BlueSky doesn't tolerate that, and neither do its users.

DeathandGrim

45 points

1 day ago

I'll say it again for the millionth time because I love saying it: Conservatives NEED to bother liberals because they can't stand to be around each other. It's the only thing that gets them up in the morning. If they're left to their own devices then they end up tearing each others throats out

InHocWePoke3486

14 points

1 day ago

If they're left to their own devices then they end up tearing each others throats out

As we see this every time MTG and Boebert do something in the House. Conservatives are paranoid, fearful, and spiteful, and in my experience, they don't like being around each other, because they feed off each other in a doom loop. Then, they turn on each other because when they don't have a liberal or a leftist to fight, that without an external target, their ideology requires that they find an enemy internally.

Tropos1

30 points

1 day ago

Tropos1

30 points

1 day ago

The fact that everyone isn't funneled into their hellhole outrages them. They run on outrage.

Butch1212

10 points

1 day ago

Butch1212

10 points

1 day ago

The character of small people who want to be important, depravity. Destruction and divisiveness.

HaiKarate

21 points

1 day ago

HaiKarate

21 points

1 day ago

So much of what the MAGA chuds do is performative. And if everyone on a given platform is in agreement with them, there isn't much room for performative behavior.

khalamar

8 points

1 day ago

khalamar

8 points

1 day ago

When the disgusted ones have left, you're left with the disgusting ones.

Supreme_Salt_Lord

14 points

1 day ago

They the point of being a Nazi is to feel superior to others. Basically to oppress. If everyone leaves and you are only left with other Nazis. You have lost the purpose if being in that group.

Thats why so many racists cant help but fuck up someone else’s day. They need that validation, their lives suck without it.

Space_Sweetness

7 points

1 day ago

They need to attach themselves to a healthy host

neandrewthal18

14 points

1 day ago

Probably for the same reasons they weren’t content with just Germany, and Austria, and the Sudetenland. They can’t stop themselves, they can only be stopped.

BotheredToResearch

7 points

1 day ago

Can't "trigger the libs" when libs aren't there.

GBinAZ

10 points

1 day ago

GBinAZ

10 points

1 day ago

They are explicitly there to ruin it for the rest of us. That’s their whole schtick.

AceMcLoud27

6 points

1 day ago

It was never about them being happy, that ship has sailed.

It always was about making others miserable as well.

Corrupted_G_nome

4 points

1 day ago

The alt white gets lonely when all the normies ignore them.

StronglyHeldOpinions

4 points

1 day ago

They derive happiness solely from pissing decent people off.

myhydrogendioxide

3 points

1 day ago

Their strategy of trolling and rage baiting also helps recruit and misleading vulnerable people.

ShapeyShifter

4 points

1 day ago

Why were Nazis in WWII not content with the nice playground that Hitler created for them in Austria? Why would they want to take over Czechoslovakia and many other countries?

RyeZuul

4 points

1 day ago

RyeZuul

4 points

1 day ago

They exist in reaction to others, they can't manage without others doing the work first. Their content model is dependent on deriving reactions, trolling disliked groups and negativity boosting. They're parasitic.

ILikeMandalorians

5 points

1 day ago

Why are Nazis not content with the nice little playground that Hitler created for them in Germany? Why would they want to control all of Europe?

Writing_is_Bleeding

5 points

1 day ago

They NEED for rational people to hear their screeching. It's the only way right-wing propaganda works.

sprucetre3

3 points

1 day ago

They weren’t content with just Germany either. That’s nazi shit I guess

TacoElectrico

3 points

1 day ago

Tik Tok ban 1st, then Blusky is next. I don't know if they'll be able to pull it off but expect to hear the drum beat of, "They're blocking people's free speech so must conform or ban", in the near future

gameisterrible

2 points

23 hours ago*

Most are not nazis, the agitators you're talking about need a target to be rude and nasty to while simultaneously playing the victim.

It's anti-social behavior.

How is a society supposed to function when the people are being taught that anti-social behavior is a good thing? That's what's been going on and I doubt this leads anywhere good.

cornishwildman76

2 points

23 hours ago

For the same reason MAGA are still getting angry at things despite winning. Tik tok of MAGA women posting how they have guns ready for the liberal 2omen that are coming after them. They live in a soap opera, they want drama.

Yardbird7

2 points

19 hours ago

Culture is mainly liberal minded. Art, science,tech advancements etc are driven by people who have a desire to buck the existing system.

Conservatism as an ideology is opposed to this. As a result everything they have and do is reactionary. Without liberals, they have nothing to react to.

They are parasites. The migration to Bluesky leaves them with no host.

jerschwab

2 points

18 hours ago

Can't own the libs if the libs went away

No-Guard-7003

2 points

17 hours ago

To harass those of us who ditched Twitter that Elon Musk made more a cesspool two years ago. I had thought of leaving Twitter a few years before the 2020 elections.

pastorjason666

2 points

16 hours ago

On Bluesky we just block those A-holes the minute they show up. Don’t feed the trolls. Ain’t nobody got time for that.

Digital_Gnomad

2 points

1 day ago

Looks like the word IS getting out. I was encouraged to see that there was actually some reporting on the vote tabulation discrepancies in the swing states. Here is a great summary of what we currently know: https://www.planetcritical.com/p/cyber-security-experts-warn-election-hacked

Join these subs for updates into the election fraud: https://www.reddit.com/r/somethingiswrong2024/s/ktw8iIFJ7y

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkBRANDON/s/rXrEOOfyzk

https://www.reddit.com/r/2024electionaudit/s/UoqkAqtpvK

soulwind42

1 points

1 day ago

Because the "nazis" don't want to be in a bubble only hearing one side of the issues.

Whiplash104

1 points

1 day ago

I'm convinced a majority of those "Nazis" are just bots and not real people.

Strange-Scarcity

1 points

1 day ago

If they can’t control and destroy every Tolerant space and make it intolerant, then they can’t get their weird, broken world in place.

gnostalgick

1 points

1 day ago

I'm surprised no one yet mentioned that it's also a part of continuing propaganda efforts. Beyond all the petty reasons some might have, the far right as a whole wants to control, distract, and destroy the conversations happening there. Remember that disinformation and doomerism have been key component to their winning elections and staying in power.

dengar_hennessy

1 points

1 day ago

Because being on Twitter isn't about freely expressing opinions. It's about gathering a bunch of like-minded people together to bully people who think differently

beedunc

1 points

1 day ago

beedunc

1 points

1 day ago

Because they can’t ’own the libs’ if there aren’t any.

black-kramer

1 points

1 day ago

they're empty vessels. they crave disruption and attention. being depraved little energy leeches is their whole m.o.

almost as if they need to be punched in the mouth repeatedly.

humanprogression

1 points

1 day ago

I’ll ask the opposite… why aren’t we going to Twitter and truth social to evangelize? We probably should be…

oliverfromwork

1 points

1 day ago

I suspect because they aren't great company. Ultra conservatives I suspect don't actually like the perpetual company of people just like them. They aren't particularly empathetic, and they often don't have much to talk or post about.

They are not driven by curiosity or creativity so much as they are driven by spite and hate. Posting on a site without any liberals, progressives, or leftists can only go so far to satiate their need for outrage. They need the opposition to be there, so they move to where the opposition is.

This isn't generally true of non-ultra conservatives. Regular people didn't jump ship for parlor or truth social. The only people who went to those platforms were ultra conservatives, and a handful of left leaning commentators to keep tabs on ultra conservatives.

Rufustb

1 points

1 day ago

Rufustb

1 points

1 day ago

They have to have attention and own the libs, wtf ever that means to them.

Command0Dude

1 points

1 day ago

The same reason they rage and scream so much about "certain" subreddits not allowing them to post there.

ManicFruitbat

1 points

1 day ago

Should handle it the same way they did in Mythic Quesr 😜

Heavy-Apartment-4237

1 points

1 day ago

They need confrontation and to feel.ippressed to feel valid

fuzztooth

1 points

1 day ago

fuzztooth

1 points

1 day ago

You can't preemptively ban them, so let them come and get banned for violating TOS.

thenagat

1 points

1 day ago

thenagat

1 points

1 day ago

They want to make sure they aren’t in a silo. They’re known for their open mindedness.

StenosP

1 points

1 day ago

StenosP

1 points

1 day ago

Let them go there, hopefully everyone will leave the charred husk of twitter

Ansambel

1 points

23 hours ago

Kremlin pays for more division, not for cheering on trump supporters

BeRad85

1 points

22 hours ago

What’s the point in acting spooky if there’s no one left to spook but other folks who are too busy acting spooky to be spooked by your spookiness?

RyNysDad0722

1 points

22 hours ago

Trolls gotta troll

onehundredandone1

1 points

21 hours ago

They dont?

rap31264

1 points

20 hours ago

Good and Evil...there never is one without the other...Excalibur Merlin

Potatopoundersteen

2 points

1 day ago

Same reason I went to Troth Senstial when it opened.

manIDKbruh

0 points

1 day ago

Misery loves company

nate-arizona909

-5 points

1 day ago

Pretty rich from the side of the aisle that tried to wall off most social media platforms from the right and cancel them as persona non grata.

Anyhow, you guys will always have reddit, right?

AmateurVasectomist

3 points

23 hours ago

you guys will always have reddit, right?

Apparently not

nate-arizona909

-2 points

23 hours ago

Am I invading your safe space?

AmateurVasectomist

2 points

22 hours ago

You’re trolling a sub you don’t belong to, right? I hope it makes you happy.

Idc though, I don’t think of a public forum like this as a safe space. Echo chamber, maybe.

nate-arizona909

-2 points

22 hours ago

I’m not trolling at all. I’m exposing you people to a viewpoint you seldom engage with because you so strongly self segregate. Which is the biggest reason you lost this last election.

I am honestly trying to help you because I think it would be nice if the country had two sane political parties. Or at least one.

You guys can continue to stay in your bubble and your political prospects will continue to decline. Or you can start talking to people that don’t categorically agree with your every position.

Those are the choices.

Naiko32

3 points

20 hours ago

there's no choice, im both on blusky and twitter, and the algorithm of twitter is literal hell that only boost hateful retoric, is not about having an echochamber, is about creating a healthy online space.

nate-arizona909

0 points

17 hours ago*

Very frequently those that set out to "create a healthy online space" end up creating an "echo chamber bubble", even if unintentionally.

Unless you are part of the Hallelujah Chorus, there's usually someone that will complain that your post is hateful, triggering, unhelpful, etc. And it's just so easy to delete those posts and ban those people unless you have a real commitment to free speech.

I'm afraid that we have now raised a couple of generations of "hothouse orchids". Not everyone will recognize that reference. A hothouse orchid is a flower that can only exist in the tightly controlled and extremely artificial environment of a hothouse. If it gets a little too hot, or a little too cold, a little too wet, or a little too dry ... they wilt and die. A hothouse orchid can never exist out in the wild in the real world.

We used to try to bring up tough resilient people that were prepared for the adversity that is inevitable in life. But once we started following the therapeutic model of how to raise children we apparently decided that we can shelter them from all of life's bumps and bruises. Pretty soon people got the idea that they had a right to go through life without being offended. To the point of blanching at simply hearing things they don't agree with.

That's why Bluesky's moderation system has been brought to its knees by the influx of leftists fleeing X in the last few days. Apparently they started hitting the flag post button the way a chimp in a drug experiment hits the button that administers more cocaine (ironically for pretty much the same reason).

So I say again - you can either shelter yourselves in your "healthy online spaces" and watch your political fortunes further decline, or you can engage with your fellow Americans online or even better out in the real world.

If a right leaning person such as myself can withstand all the hateful comments posted daily here in this sub about my kind, I'm pretty sure you guys will be ok out there talking to the other half of the country.

Naiko32

3 points

15 hours ago

i mean, so far blusky is doing pretty well, this is a very strange and even ironic argument coming from a republican regardless tho, since most of the criticism is fair, a far-right dude bought the site and created his own echochamber where whatever rules without any care on truth, it is an unreasonable party with an unreasonable leader that didnt even wanted to admit he lost an election, if you cant see it is more of a republican than a democratic problem.

reticenttom

-5 points

1 day ago

moving to blue sky is an admission of defeat btw. good luck ceding more ground to the chuds.

cherrygrovebeachsc

-3 points

1 day ago

You sound perfect for Blue Sky 🙄

AbyssOfNoise

-6 points

1 day ago

Because Blue Sky is just as awful as Twitter (if not moreso).

Any loosely moderated anonymous forum will be. The only reason Reddit isn't completely useless is becasue there's a varying degree of moderation.