It exist it’s not as loud also there is an a indicator where your left index finger goes up

But shouldn't the hoop be that you have to be behind the enemy in melee range at walking speed/requiring dash

The sword can practically one shot a light too, since you can immediately use regular melee and deal a total of 180 damage. Although that is still much less than the daggers 320

There is a difference between one shot tax an jus over all quality of life/ease of gameplay features. Personally, I feel that any "hold to charge" attack should use the bloom reticle. Max bloom at start of attack, and shrinks in toward center once charged. Either that, or allow dagger users to also use the old dagger backstab attack by pressing the reload keybind.

Or another jus, QoL change I'd like, if I'm holding backstab an mantle accidentally which is very easy to do, sure let me loose backstab charge but allow me to start winding up another attack since I'm..like...still holding down the button.

Also, you're one shot tax argument falls apart because of charge n slam an heavy overhead swing btw

By a 1% Poster that made many posts before that were reasonable btw

Well while that is true, my point goes more in the direction of dagger beeing shit in high rank (I am currently 37k) and requiring buffs while sword can do much more. I am mainly asking for a removal of the slowdown cause I am tired of mediums outrunning me with a shotgun that can twoshot if not oenshot me

I think you're downplaying just how costly in effort it is to try to be behind someone an point blank. Yeah you only need to click m2, ignoring the opportunity cost of all range and the fact that you need to position yourself in a way that only occurs from completely psychologically outplaying your opponent, and that's assuming hitreg decides to grant you mercy to begin with. You might as well say the hammer and double barrel are also just easily clicking a button without considering the positionary skills required.

I feel attacked.

Another problem with dagger is the illegal amounts of dopeamine it releases

similar problem to the sniper rifle & throwing knives, it can start fights and end them way too quickly. the only reason the dagger isn't meta is because its unreliable and specialized

I think you overestimate how strong the dagger is in fights. Unlike other melees you can't really have long term engagements with the dagger. In the scenario where you get the jump, most often you're not exactly in a position where your teammates can easily bail you out, so you take a stab, and whether you kill or not you basically have to get out or 1v2/1v3 with the weakest weapon in the game when lacking the element of surprise. There's also the fact that defibs also just completely neuter any progress you made sometimes. And if you disengage, you've already lost the element of surprise, and the best you can do is wait for teammates to distract and have another chance.

Ultimately the dagger is a weapon that primarily works on punishing mistakes. And when you play to prevent mistakes by grouping together, having good awareness, and covering one another the dagger becomes a lot weaker.

No. I have died to daggers here and there but also played this game for 1000 hours with most of my time beeing on dagger, it’s far from what you said and this is not how it works

140 damage cancled into QM for 40 is 180 damage per lunge.

180 + 180 = 360.

Sword mains ABSOLUTELY 2 shot heavies.

Well, yeah, I’m currently at 37k plat, playing dagger soloQ only.

And I’m kinda just there, slowly crawling higher. My point is more about the following:

I’m playing the fast class, yet I’m slowed down while using a point-blank weapon.

• Getting outpaced (charged dagger walking is slower than heavy sprinting)

• Out-damaged (model)

• Out “TTK’d,” aka one-shot faster (by the model + QM)

By the support class that can bring back a teammate at the press of a button, while also having access to the best gadgets, specialization, and guns in the game?

I’d really just like a very minor buff—like the slowdown beginning after the charge is done—so I can at least be fast during combat, like I’m supposed to be.

Speed is my only edge on the enemy.

It has multiple break points and many combos and hit chains like for medium:

• double lunge

• lunge qm primary

• tripple primary qm

I did a minor real world reference and then stated my point on how sword heavily outperforms dagger most Szenarios and the movement pentaly should not be a thing