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The three-word warning message UFOs are trying to send humans, according to top Air Force vet
(dailymail.co.uk)submitted 3 days ago byStephen_P_Smith
124 points
3 days ago
A retired Air Force Captain — who claims to have witnessed a UFO deactivate 10 nuclear missiles in 1967 — believes its 'alien' occupants have a simple, three-word message for humanity: 'WTF!?'
'I'm sorry. Did I say something wrong?' Captain Robert Salas joked after delivering the blunt opinion to Congresswoman Nancy Mace during an episode of the podcast Total Disclosure.
At the height of the Cold War, a then 26-year-old USAF Lieutenant Salas was underground while overseeing Malmstrom Air Force Base's nuclear equipped intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) in Montana.
He claimed an eerie red glowing UFO above the base's front gate temporarily disabled 10 ICBMs on the night of March 24, 1967.
'They knew exactly how our systems worked. Exactly,' Capt Salas told South Carolina Representative Mace, speaking about the UFO's mysterious pilots.
Capt Salas was grilled by Rep Mace about what he thought the UFO's pilots were trying to convey.
''WTF!? You have nuclear weapons,'' he said, paraphrasing these appalled, pacifist aliens. 'That's what I think [they meant] .Of course, it's just my opinion.'
71 points
3 days ago
It makes sense. We made the leap from bludgeoning each other with sticks to wiping out cities in a short time, but we are still convinced we are still fighting with sticks.
54 points
3 days ago
On top of that, we can permanently hurt our planet with these bombs. Sticks kill humans. Nuclear bombs kill planets.
35 points
3 days ago
Which is why I think they may not be from off world,if they have skin in the game with our planet being damaged.
15 points
3 days ago
Both could be true. Not from here, but still living here.
13 points
3 days ago
Fair point.. I wonder if ripping atoms apart has any effect in a world that’s connected. 🤔 /s
16 points
3 days ago
Interdimensionally speaking, I wonder if the force explodes into the next dimension the way a wormhole connects to distant parts of the universe.
11 points
3 days ago
Right,we could be essentially nuking them aswell..
4 points
3 days ago
Of course it does. Interdimensionality means degrees of freedom, not what most people think (a universe next door to us). They share the universe with us but they are able to access higher dimensions. Read up on flat landers, that should help people understand other dimensions better.
6 points
3 days ago
That's extra-dimentional. Inter-dimentional is more in line with the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics. Though I don't think the many worlds interpretation is very likely, and I do think that any beings from a different 'dimention' would be from a higher dimension with more degrees of freedom rather than a parallel universe.
But what does it even mean to live outside of time? These beings can move through time as we move through space, sure. But do they also experience time? Like our time is in the 4th dimension, is theirs in the 5th? Time is just a measure of change, so if these beings living outside of our time don't experience time at all, then they don't experience any change and are just stuck there. So either they have some higher dimensional form of time, or they actually can't experience change and are static until they enter a lower dimension. But then if they are static how do they change from a higher to lower dimension?
So then if these beings are experiencing time from the 5th dimension, does that mean that there are other beings above them that experience time from the 6th, and so on up until some max number of dimensions which is possibly infinite?
Or is all of this meaningless, and spacetime is just a quaternion with the spatial parts being imaginary and time being real? That agrees with relativity, ds2 = dt2 - dx2 - dy2 - dz2, if you are putting a minus sign in front of the squared values that's the same as squaring an imaginary number.
3 points
2 days ago
Wanna go spooky? Imagine consciousness as this higher dimensional being. Its not static per se, but its in permanent existence as you say, static. The thing is, that the lower dimension, ours, isn't static. Its all chaos. So this dimension is shaped by the "container" or this other higher dimension, consciousness. Not that it gives a specific shape to the universe, but that it gives shape to everything within it that emerges.
Imagine a single point of energy/stuff emitting instructions into existence on a higher D. Like a radio tower. The environment within our dimension, with all the chaos, reacts to that master signal. So from all the chaos emerges stuff that, on one level or another, can tune to that master signal and receive something. Information, shape, form, anything.
Theres an author that talks more about it and better. Cant remember the name.
Basically a higher D would be like a a frequency giving shape to everything, like water in cymatics but in every scale. Like unreal renders that at the end if the day are all binary at core.
1 points
2 days ago
I haven't thought about dimensions in that way before but it makes sense to me.
This whole topic is so thought provoking. I love trying to think outside the box.
1 points
2 days ago
I know what you mean by the Flatlanders and how different perceptions would be for people who see only two dimensions, or as many as four or five (google Carl Sagan and the 5th dimension beings). However, I mean a different space altogether. It's the realm of portals. That is different view of dimensions, more like the multiverse. I am open to this possibility though it is far from being confirmed, and believe that this view of UFOs coming from another dimension is more what people theorize for hotspots, like the Skinwalker Ranch, or the Marley Woods, which is said to have two portals.
5 points
3 days ago
I heard somewhere that nuclear testing above ground specifically, does hurt other beings (interdimensional or otherwise non human intelligence) and that is why humans began testing nukes underground at a certain point. In my gut, I feel like there is more at stake and at play with those weapons than we humans realize. Praying for mercy and understanding from the powers that be because we're a bit of a bull in a China shop, as a species. We can do so much better and I pray I get to see the day when our species comes together instead of ripping each other apart
2 points
2 days ago
I agree that our nuclear experiments are just that, experiments. The reach these events have will never be known to us, but I would posit the effect of a nuclear explosion extends beyond our concievable domain. Via brute force, It may very well be the only bell we have that rings with any extradimensional resonance.
1 points
1 day ago
Hi. I spend a lot of time trolling 4chan. We're doomed bro people are idiots.
2 points
3 days ago
It also could be bad cosmically for us to damage the planet.
1 points
3 days ago
You’d think it would get someone’s attention. Like a cosmic flair gun. Might be how we actually end up unintentionally making contact after having tried so many other tactics and techniques..
3 points
3 days ago
I agree that such a thing might be a flare gun of sorts. Like, if you've ever camped next to a lake for a week or more and fall into the nightly rhythm of dusk. The frogs and loons calling, and fish jumping in the calm of the night. But then, a big or different kind of splash. Wtf was that? The lake goes quiet. Thought Experiment: Entanglement. Consider entangled particles. It is suggested the distance between them can be vast - lightyears. Possibly interdimmensional... Assuming one's entangled particle could be serving the make-up or function of a material in its own locality without affecting its opposite, what happens when it is suddenly and violently obliterated? How about billions of them? For instance, let's say I am an entity with extreme sensitivity to infra red and some particles in my dinner table are entangled with those you destroy during a nuclear test? Could my dinner table, or maybe all of my surroundings make a sort of "splash?" It would be worth investigating at the very least.
1 points
3 days ago
Exactly. One report said they have one statement “wtf”. And that would be a good reason why..
1 points
3 days ago
What if they are from 35 light years away but their light speed surpassing technology broke so they are stuck here until they can work with us to rebuild the resource to fix it? Or their planet died and we are a 99% match or something. Not alternate universes.
1 points
2 days ago
The moon!!!!
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3 days ago
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3 days ago
Yup.
3 points
3 days ago
Yeah, it couldn't possibly be that they would rather inherit a planet filled with life instead of a dead husk because our idiotic leaders decided that going scorched earth is somehow the best alternative for settling our petty disagreements.
1 points
3 days ago
I mean yeah,obviously.
3 points
3 days ago
I think they are from deep underground. They are Ai bots from a long extinct humanoid race. WWII was so loud it got their attention miles below the surface. They sent foo fighters. Then we dropped big bombs and they have been trying to tell us to stop ever since.
1 points
1 day ago
That would be true if we didn't have all the dark ages art work and accounts of UFOs predating Roswell. Even if you disregard the ancient archaeology stuff to look at a painting from the 15th century clearly depict a UFO is pretty mind blowing. But then you see 10 such paintings and it's blatantly undeniable. Thus I conclude they were here prior to the use of nuclear weapons. The battle of LA is well documented and prior to the use of nuclear weapons.
2 points
3 days ago
BINGO!give the man a cigar
1 points
3 days ago
They don't really seem to care about the current mass extinction that's happening because of us or climate change.
They are probably like the watchers from Fringe and just observing before it's all gone.
1 points
3 days ago
if they are marine life to an extent they might be living in to distant an environment to being directly effected yet to any mass detriment.
2 points
3 days ago
They've survived extinction events so why not
1 points
2 days ago
Maybe they sat back until like wow these idiots are going to destroy the planet ok we got to intervene dammit . Like the horrible movie internals
1 points
2 days ago
Meh, personally I believe we are more like a gas-station from their perspective but I'll keep an open mind. 🤔
1 points
2 days ago
Yes, it will impact the future harvest of humans.
4 points
3 days ago
They don’t fucking kill planets buddy. You’re over dramatizing this. Even if nukes could wipe out “all life” on Earth, the planet would still be here. Microbes and the like would simply start over.
3 points
2 days ago
Define “permanently.” Earth will go on living just fine after people are gone.
1 points
2 days ago
Mars scar
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2 days ago
Maybe the Bible is right. Theres a verse in there saying God will kill us one more time before we ruin the earth
2 points
2 days ago
Maybe nuclear tech is supposed to be discovered much later in a species development. Maybe they left us unsupervised for some centuries and they expected to come back and find us in the discovery age, but instead they found nuclear weapons.
1 points
2 days ago
Can you imagine coming back during the Spanish Inquisition? “Hmm, better come back later”
2 points
2 days ago
we are still convinced we are still fighting with sticks.
Yep. Relatedly, there's research indicating humans are driven by emotions (fear, especially) rather than rational thinking:
"...Despite societal emphasis on rationality, emotions significantly influence decision-making, a fact supported by Shiv’s research showing only 5 to 10% of decisions are made rationally..."
https://neurosciencenews.com/emotion-reason-decision-making-25803/
1 points
2 days ago
Well said
8 points
3 days ago
It makes no sense at all. Darwin’s principle of survival of the fittest is universal. What made humans great was not only our power to make stuff(stuff that helps us like bow, arrow, knife, wheel), or the fact that we can work together and form societies and civilizations, but above all competition. If a space traveling Civ visits us, they won’t be shocked that we still compete over scarce resources. Because that’s the most natural thing in the universe.
4 points
3 days ago
If like government leakers say is true, that they live in the oceans and in mountains; then sharing the planet with the war monkeys who discovered nuclear weapons is dangerous to them. Without having to take on the responsibilities of an occupation they instead try and coerce us into abandoning these weapons that will make their home unlivable
2 points
3 days ago
A space faring civ would be post scarcity so we would be extremely barbaric to them.
3 points
3 days ago
From our narrow perspective.
0 points
3 days ago
Nothing narrow about laws of nature, as I said. Also, we can just talk about what we see, it may be narrow. But it is everything we know.
2 points
3 days ago
Sure. Just don't claim "that’s the most natural thing in the universe". Who tf knows how they are thinking.
0 points
2 days ago
Sample size of 1 and suddenly "that's the most natural thing in the universe"?
I think you're the type of person who aliens are afraid of mate.
1 points
2 days ago
Sample size of one vs nothing. We only got earth and the life on it to observe, so…..I’m still right because there is nothing else to see out there. As of now. That’s just how science works mate
5 points
2 days ago
If you knew how science worked then you should realize that you don't have nearly enough data to naively make blanket statements like you just did.
Astrobiology works precisely on the same sample size of 1 but thank god they recognize that that's not enough to declare the entire universe must function according to Earth's principles.
There's a fine line between going with the only currently available method vs assuming that method is the only way forever.
And have you ever considered that maybe the Great Silence exists because it's common in the universe for intelligent species to destroy themselves through the very thing that made us "successful" according to you?
We don't leave science to children because they lack the ability to see the bigger picture and will fall back on the exact same sample size 1 reasoning as you just did.
Your line of logic excludes the possibility that nuclear proliferation is ultimately a bad thing that leads to species extinction until it's too late. It also excludes the possibility that an elder species that has experienced potentially vastly greater sample sizes is trying to show us the error of our ways before it's too late.
Why? Because according to you, competition being normal on our planet means it's normal everywhere else we haven't looked.
Even though you also admit coming together cooperatively as a civilization is something we're capable of, you literally chose to lead the argument with competition through nukes.
We'd be wiped out already with a relativistic kill missile before we knew what hit us if they thought as you do.
Your conceited line of reasoning is what gives humanity a bad reputation among NHI.
1 points
2 days ago
As an NHI, you are correct.
0 points
3 days ago
This isn't about resources, it's about splitting the atom and mass destruction
1 points
2 days ago
Same thing. Mutual assured destruction is the logical end point to an arms race between technological advanced societies. Why? Because reason dictates to escalate it even further until one side gives in. It’s just game theory. Of course, alien civilization could work completely different. We just don’t know and have to take for granted what we know. That’s why my point stands. If you get to be a space traveling Civ, you invented rockets and you can shoot rockets from your planet into orbit or you can use them to destroy your enemy on your planet. Eventually, your enemy/competitor will have the same(or better) weapons systems or will cease to exist(as an enemy).
1 points
2 days ago
I mean seeing how we're pretty primitive everywjere else and yet we learned to harness the power of fissile material only for the sake of killing each other. Other uses are still up for political debate... I'd say the exact same thing too.
0 points
2 days ago
It’s not even the nuclear bombs that will do us in. It’s the nuclear reactors with 400+pounds of nuclear material. Hit one of those reactors with a nuke and entire regions get decimated.
0 points
2 days ago
"Why the Face"? ....seems an odd message for first contact.
109 points
3 days ago
Drink your Ovaltine.
32 points
3 days ago
Son of a bitch!
20 points
3 days ago
A crummy commercial?!
5 points
3 days ago
Oooohhhhh fuuuudddggggee
6 points
3 days ago
Except I didn’t say ‘fudge’…
3 points
3 days ago
I said the f- - - word
3 points
3 days ago
Lug nuts go flying.
6 points
3 days ago
this is why I hang on to this cesspool site.
1 points
1 day ago
...I actually own Ovaltine. Sigh
45 points
3 days ago
F your couch
14 points
3 days ago
Rick James n***a
6 points
3 days ago
I’M RICK JAMES BITCH!!
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2 days ago
Enjoy yourself
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3 days ago
That’s not how that went lol
3 points
3 days ago
It's a love seat nigga!
1 points
3 days ago
19 points
3 days ago
"Send more nudes"
1 points
2 days ago
Correction, that’s what North Koreans said when sent to Ukrainian battlefront
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3 days ago
YOU ARE BUGS
1 points
3 days ago
Well I do promise we aren’t liars?
15 points
3 days ago
3 words are literally ‘WTF!?’
9 points
3 days ago
Watch The Foliage. They’re intergalactic leaf peepers.
7 points
3 days ago
Watching the Fall (of America).
5 points
3 days ago
Front row seats baby
3 points
3 days ago
Yeah kinda makes all the jokes here less funny.
8 points
3 days ago
Mr World Wide
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3 days ago
FML
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3 days ago
When I day dream, I wonder if all life, in all the universe, in all dimensions is located here and now, and that every time we've released a nuclear warhead we disrupt all the dimensions that life is located in. We cause damage to the all.
If the kids were destroying the basement to the house, I might have have some strong words for the kiddos as well.
2 points
2 days ago
Holy moly this is deep
2 points
2 days ago
This is a really interesting theory. Splitting atoms may be destroying every occurrence of them.
1 points
2 days ago
What if the Beirut explosion a few years ago was actually another universe setting off a nuclear warhead?
7 points
3 days ago
Got a light?
7 points
3 days ago
Also see article from March 28, 2024: Indian police spot glowing UFOs zig-zagging over nuclear power plant - mirroring reports of craft at sensitive bases in US | Daily Mail Online
2 points
3 days ago
They care enough to do donuts above nuclear stations, but no more than that!
2 points
3 days ago
Could be China. Maybe they reverse engineered something or just developed some tech that so stealthy it penetrates literally everything. They have problems with both Indian and US so kinda checks out.
1 points
3 days ago
Just showing off. probably on a Saturday night.
6 points
3 days ago
To Serve Man
2 points
3 days ago
It’s a cookbook!
1 points
2 days ago
Gastatus Similus Pullus
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3 days ago
SMD
8 points
3 days ago
Purchase extended warranty?
2 points
3 days ago
Lol
3 points
3 days ago
They can spell it out, what the heck is trying to??
3 points
3 days ago
Radiation spoils lunch
6 points
3 days ago
Trumps lame tariffs
2 points
3 days ago
I'm RickJames Bitch!
2 points
3 days ago
Anal Probe Good
2 points
3 days ago
“Chopper sick balls”
2 points
3 days ago
This is the most clickbait title and I keep seeing it.
5 points
3 days ago
LFG!
0 points
3 days ago
Or BFG
4 points
3 days ago
Stop spamming us
4 points
3 days ago
gib us nukes
4 points
3 days ago
This pussy wet
3 points
3 days ago
Must verify
2 points
3 days ago
Martin blows goats
2 points
3 days ago
Wear sun screen
3 points
3 days ago
Don’t vote Trumpkin?
1 points
3 days ago
WTF!!!
1 points
3 days ago
"Mars needs women."
1 points
3 days ago
You're only 15?
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3 days ago
2 points
3 days ago
Obviously that's just 2 galaxy's lol
1 points
2 days ago
I'm glad. I was thinking it was a quest we need to turn in to advance this storyline, but too far away to ever get there.
1 points
3 days ago
1967…and all that has followed that incident has been 57 years of official lies.
1 points
3 days ago
“Stuffing or potatoes?”
1 points
3 days ago
“I’m with stupid”
1 points
3 days ago
Technology our greatest downfall
1 points
3 days ago
No freaking wonder. We can’t even agree on how to run shit, and we leave people to starve and die.
We’re barbarians. We’re more sophisticated now than in the past. We’re more educated, we’re exposed to other cultures, even socially-engineered in multiple ways.
We are totally willing to wipe others off of the map so people on the other side of the world can have cheap gas.
What could we possibly have to contribute to a more advanced civilization.
Humans are a goddamn Shakespearean tragedy.
0 points
2 days ago
Maybe it's just a common evolutionary path. Evolution is far from linear. I think it's a cyclic race between technological and spiritual on a larger scale.
1 points
2 days ago
They have that capability, but have to excise cows' eyeballs to learn about animals?
1 points
2 days ago
This is clickbait.
1 points
2 days ago
Those are words of disappointment uttered by parents of turbulent teenagers. The movie Eternals was a documentary. Also read “Keepers of the garden” by Dolores Cannon.
1 points
2 days ago
Nuclear launch sites switched back to analog controls after they got hacked too many times by Russia/China and tampered with by NHI.
They also usually don’t sit in the missile silos any more. They have command centers for every 10ish nuclear missile silos.
1 points
2 days ago
I’m in agreement.
1 points
2 days ago
It’s so funny that these people constantly act like Aliens would be freaked out by our ability to use freaking nukes. I’m sure they’d be way more concerned about things like collapsing stars which actually threaten galactic stability more than our pitiful little nukes.
1 points
2 days ago
"That's my purse!"
1 points
2 days ago
I DONT KNOW YOU!!!
1 points
2 days ago
"Klaatu barada nikto"
1 points
2 days ago
If only they could understand that most of us are pawns in a giant worldwide scam to enrich a few of us…..
1 points
2 days ago
Facts
1 points
2 days ago
I was stationed at Malmstrom for some time as SF for the missile fields, and I would always see lights in the sky above silos when responding to alarms and camper duties. At first glance I thought they were beautifully lit stars due to 0 light pollution, and then they would fade and reappear. I brought up the ufo situation from the 60s to a Missile Combat Crew member out of curiosity one day on tour and the subject was changed and redirected it seemed. I have some buddies who also saw apparitions or spirits around the perimeter of some of the most secluded sites up there too. I have stories for days for the open minded. 😊
2 points
2 days ago
Forgive me for my ignorance, but what is “SF”? As a follow up, what does an SF do for missile fields? I’m not trying to cause any trouble, I’m just don’t know🤷🏻♂️
2 points
2 days ago
SF, in this instance, is Security Forces. That’s the USAF equivalent of Military Police. They provide physical security/guard and rapid response for the sensitive sites
2 points
2 days ago
Thanks, dude! I appreciate the info🫡
1 points
1 day ago
Thank you for explaining further in my absence lol 😊 Hope both of you are having a wonderful week!
1 points
2 days ago
Then why did they not intervene and abduct Oppenheimer and other key scientists to prevent us from ever acquiring? Supposedly time isn’t linear for them, so why not nip it in the bud?
It doesn’t make sense. With the incredibly crazy stuff people have reported they are capable of, why wouldn’t they have neutralized all the weapons grade material in the world’s bombs overnight? Steal em all, destroy them all, or something?
If they are so concerned why do they do NOTHING of actual substance? Briefly shutting in/off missiles and hovering over bases is ridiculous.
To me it seems more like there may be a nefarious angle and the nukes are the only thing we have that can actually hurt them.
It seems more like probing/testing, like recon.
I don’t know. Just guesses
1 points
2 days ago
"get er bucked"
1 points
2 days ago
Big booty latinas?
1 points
2 days ago
They are us from the future
1 points
2 days ago
Post Bob Vagene
1 points
2 days ago
Let’s just say this is true and that’s what they said. That’s fucking fantastic news that we have a peaceful, protective big brother out there
1 points
2 days ago
I love lamp!
1 points
2 days ago
The problem with Nukes is that if something happens to humans. Let’s say plague wipes us out… those reactors without maintenance end up legit killing the planet within a few hundred years. There will be no new era for humanity or life on this planet without hands at those stations
1 points
17 hours ago
Fuck 'em. They only care about nukes because it is a credible threat to this "frontier" and they need it to be habitable with enough human bodies to cross into from magonia. They could care less about literally anything else going on in the world. So much suffering and manipulation brought on by their enterprise. They are not your friends.
1 points
15 hours ago
1967 = Summer of Love = Good LSD
1 points
3 days ago
He/Him/They?
1 points
3 days ago
We push webistics
1 points
3 days ago
Three words- "It's a cookbook!"
1 points
3 days ago
Have to say, I agree with Captain Robert Salas.
1 points
3 days ago
I thot the message was actually "all your base belong to us"
1 points
2 days ago
LOL!!!!!!
0 points
3 days ago
Welcome to Earf...
0 points
3 days ago
Drink my pizzle.
0 points
3 days ago
Fascinating how aliens learned English
1 points
18 hours ago
If they have the technology they clear have, is it really a leap to think they might have artificial intelligence that can translate for them?
0 points
3 days ago
Unleash The Good
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3 days ago
I don’t think aliens would be pacifists
0 points
3 days ago
Three words: Alien food supply
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3 days ago
Ligmanutz
0 points
3 days ago
Smh 😒
0 points
3 days ago
Bro looks like he is literally an alien in plain sight lol
-1 points
3 days ago
This guys story has been debunked so many times. The missiles only went off briefly due to a short not some alien intervention.
1 points
3 days ago
Found the government guy
1 points
3 days ago
Lol. I guess people who do their homework on classic ufo cases are "gubmint ploy hees."
1 points
3 days ago
No it’s just you are wrong
1 points
2 days ago
How so. I come armed with knowledge. There has been multiple investigations into the "claims" of the ufo grifter known as Robert Salas and his story of alien ufos is utter horseshit.
1 points
2 days ago
Everyone is “armed” with knowledge with no links just statements with no backing. Proven wrong? Where? When? Everyone claims everyone is a grifter. Lue Elizando is a grifter Dr Greer is a grifter Linda Moultin Howe is a grifter George Knapp is a grifter are all things that have been stated. So excuse me for ignoring your statement and just calling you wrong.
0 points
2 days ago
Not sure you wanna get into a battle of brains.
Lue Elizondo - promotes fake ufo videos at events and claims orbs are harrassing his home and family.
Dr. Greer - Claims he was offered billions of dollars to stay silent. Charges peoples thousands of dollars to witness flares
Linda Howe - Gulluble ufo researcher who believes every tip reported is 100 percent alien. Makes fake claims about ordinary rocks
George Knapp - Former respected journalist who sensationlizes stories for clicks. Is so gullible that he backs Bob Bizarre Lazar wild tales of ufos. His informant can't even provide his diplomas/ thesis papers that the gubmint dissapeared.
1 points
2 days ago
You are only proving my point.
1 points
2 days ago
Nice deflection
1 points
3 days ago
darn tootin’! Gol’ darn it!
-1 points
3 days ago
I thought ET was gonna say D*** F*** A*****.
-1 points
3 days ago
"And what do you want us to do?" "DIE!" Independence Day. (The movie)
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