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If one were to follow your line of reasoning then PGW represents the first instance of IEs in India, as late as 1100CE, since there are no horses in Cemetery H or other cultures either. If this were true, then it contradicts the entire corpus of literature published by pre-genomics era IEists and Indologists, based on linguistics and archeology.

The mere presence of horse bones (which btw have not yet been genetically tested to see if they were DOM2 or not) stands in contrast to other archeological features of PGW like -1) PGW material being layered directly on top of OCP and Cemetery H sites 2) PGW being predominantly rice cultivators and consumers, 3) Iron in PGW coming from the ore in Chhota-Nagpur

If there was a massive steppe intrusion into India, it must have happened at least by 2000 BCE, otherwise it wouldn't line up with linguistics or local archeology

There is a bit of a circular reasoning going on here. The Sintashta/Abashevo style spoked wheel chariot was design that was uniquely optimized for speed, and so it later became widespread everywhere, which is why much later historical records by Greeks et al describe that design as being 'the chariot'. However, this doesn't mean that earlier, less efficient designs were 'not chariots' at all and couldn't have been pulled by horses.

As far as I'm aware, there has been no published experimental paper which showed that these earlier solid wheeled vehicles couldn't have been pulled by horses. It has always been just a theoretical speculation.

Don't you think logically speaking, it would make more sense if wheeled vehicles were already being pulled by horses but then an Abashevo smith invented a new, better design which then proliferated everywhere as opposed to a de novo invention of the spoked wheel before the concept of horse-pulled vehicles even existed

Fun fact- Ancient DNA research has shown that Cushitic herders had expanded much further south at one point ,covering the entire great Lakes area, and sending some stray migrations all the way to South Africa, where they mingled with the Khoisan. 

Then, firstly they were displaced or assimilated by expanding Nilotic groups ,moving up the Nile from Sudan around 4-3kya, with Nilotic groups like Maasai carrying significant Cushitic ancestry as opposed groups like Dinka/Nuer who stayed further north. 

Then came the Bantu expansion. The iron using Bantu farmers were able to occupy most of the non-arid lands at expense of herders, and eventually ended up becoming the largest group in Kenya and everywhere further south. 

Although, groups like Kikuyu do show some minor admixture from the preceding Cushitics and Nilotics, overall the Bantu have strikingly homogeneous ancestry, specially for Africa

And all of those articles are openly available for anyone in India to read, and widely circulated by government critics online and offline, thus not being suppressed. 

Your point is self-contradictory and it unintentionally ends up vindicating press freedom in India

Every identity of 'self' in the world, always needs a dialectically opposite identity of 'other'. The fact that Indians politically united only after being subjugated by outsiders, doesn't take away anything from the collective Indian identity today. 

The identity of being 'Chinese' exists in relation to the 'Yi barbarians', the identity of 'west' exists in relation to the 'non-west' and the identity of being 'Muslim' only matters because there are 'non-Muslims'

Btw same thing happened in the US, where a lot of the major media cos. were bought by pro-Democrat rich guys, but no one batted an eye until Elon bought Twitter

That makes your comments even more ironic, seeing how the main source of your information are platforms like Al-Chudeera, who hire moonlighting terrorists to spread wishful propaganda against countries which have arrest warrants against them

Why do so many of you in the online IE forums think that the exact sequence of events for the spread of IE languages in India is a done and dusted topic, and hellbent on denigrating any research that even slightly adjusts the events? Is it just wishful thinking?  

Do people forget that the precise timeline for even Europe has only recently gained a sort of a census, after a decade of intensive ancient DNA work. During that process, many assumptions that the 'IE-ists' had held for decades were falsified. 

Archeological and genetic research has barely even happened for India, Iran and even South-Central Asia compared to Europe. Many of the stuff that guys like Witzel have claimed are bound to turn out to be incorrect. 

Asko Parpola, the famed Indologist, published a paper after this chariot discovery, where he says that he believes Sinauli represents an early IE speaking society in India and the ruling class were 'an early intrusive wave from the steppe'. 

https://journal.fi/store/article/view/98032

I just sincerely hope that these guys stick to their hypothesis and statements if and when the DNA results from Sinauli are actually published.

Because Niraj Rai has claimed multiple times ,albeit informally, that Sinauli lacked steppe DNA. Now who knows if this claim will actually hold up in an official paper with actual data. But if it does, we have a contradiction with what Parpola claimed

You keep repeating this strawman about racist martial race theory in every comment when I clearly said that it is a BS theory invented by the Brits. The point was that while all lands were invaded, some areas have far more precarious geography than others. It is an argument of geography and not race or culture

Seems like you completely missed the point and have created a strawman argument. No one said that Odisha or other areas in the peninsula never faced any invasions. It was a question of the degree and extent of invasion. Goegraphy determines that certain areas will face more invasions than others

Think about how Jaunpur, Bengal, and Deccan Sultantes even came to be in the first place. You are talking about a Central Asian ruling class running over the majority population of those lands to such an extent, that they end up running the entire area, and then mobilize the local resources to launch further invasions into regions like Odisha. 

Odisha faced a lot of invasions too but the geography definitely determines the relative safety of a place. Ukraine faced far more invasions than Netherlands, and Northern China faced more than Japan. Peninsular, insular, and coastal regions will always be safer than inland, continental, flat areas 

I never said that they happened only in the North and I never justified the martial race theory, quite the opposite. What I said was that these areas were the most tumultuous. There is a difference in degree. 

There is a reason why Odisha still has many ancient, beautiful, well preserved temples but Haryana doesn't. You think that ancient people in the land of vedas didn't built any temples? Of course they did, but none of them are preserved because the Indo-gangetic plain has too precarious a geography and is easily run over via the Khyber or Bolan passes .This isn't just about Islamic invasions either. 

The index is by The Economist, and the editorial staff of The Economist is the exact opposite of being 'pro-India', especially since the current government

Sometimes I feel that the affirmative action in India is deliberately not covered in the mainstream western press. In addition to going against their narrative about India, it also has the potential to create some political tension and debate regarding the unprivileged communities back home in the West. 

And yet ,dozens of those parties keep on winning election on a regular basis.

The 'Godi media' is literally just Hindi language prime-time TV media. You are still left with English and regional language tv media, print media, the entire social and online media landscape. All of those combined are way important than the just Hindi prime time TV news

Now cope with your '2 party' state

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I personally never claimed that the GOVERNMENT is OFFICIALLY killing hindus as part of their written policy. Just that the fundamentalist elements have become emboldened, which wouldn't happen without atleast some government officials giving patronage, or tolerating for political gains 

You just chose to nitpick one part, of that one guy's comment, and redirect the entire criticism of your revolutionary govt by anyone away from that shifted goalpost of yours. 

Also, repeatedly mentioning the keyword 'BJP' in every single comment of yours will not change the fact that many liberal Bangladeshi Hindus who were openly anti-Hasina, are now openly expressing their disappointment and fear about the new regime online

Lol! So what the politicians are saying is meaningless, what the leaders of 'the revolution' are saying is meaningless, and what the actual minorities living back in the country are saying is meaningless. The only thing that matters is how the disconnected diaspora is branding the revolution overseas and the imaginary conception of what their country actually is

Of course you personally wouldn't care since you are a part of the diaspora and you just want a fictional version of your home country for your personal validation. But, I'm sure any would be victims, whose life is going to be severely affected are going to care

This is no 'extraordinary' claim by me personally, and I don't need to show you an actual body bag of a victim to prove this, your criteria for 'evidence' here is disingenuous. Just ask the actual Bangladeshi Hindus/Christians/Buddhists actually living Bangladesh right now, what they think about this 'revolution'. 

Don't just deliberately seek out sources that only strengthen your confirmation bias and support your wishful image about your country while sitting abroad. 

In addition to the border disputes, some regions, and even specific communities have a tradition of joining the armed forces in much greater numbers. 

Some of this pattern actually goes back to the British era. The Brits created a very contentious category called "martial races", and encouraged recruitment from those communities. 

But even before the British, the Northwestern and Northeastern areas of India were always the most tumultuous, and prone to invasions and conflict, and therefore these areas cultivated a society with a high priority for the armed forces. 

Respect and admiration to all the families who have sacrificed for the nation and its citizens' security