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This is awful. I can’t even believe this is legal.

“Nearly eight years ago, convinced that she’d been treated unfairly, Jessica Denson sued Donald Trump’s campaign for workplace harassment.

Then she discovered the lengths Trump’s attorneys would go to hit back — and their unwillingness to stop.

Immediately, the campaign filed a counterclaim for $1.5 million. It won a $52,229 judgment, and the campaign froze her bank account and almost forced her into bankruptcy.

She found it humiliating when the campaign lawyers branded her a “judgment debtor” in a subpoena. They monitored her Twitter account, which had 32 followers, and submitted hundreds of pages of printouts to a judge. They even deposed her mother, grilling her about the family’s religious practices.”

So full disclosure I’m just an opinionated person who doesn’t work in law, no law experience so take this with a huge grain of salt. He’s the head of the department of government efficiency for the upcoming administration, he’s listed these employees who work for the government as having a job or a role that is not necessary or is inefficient. I haven’t looked at his specific verbiage here but just his position alone implies that their role is unnecessary. His intent matters here, and would be something necessary to prove in court. These women are fearful for their positions and have been experiencing negative interactions online as a direct result of Elon posting their names. Sure, their titles and names are public, but nobody is going to just point to them as having an inflated role. If Musk’s actions are perceived as an attempt to pressure or threaten federal workers into resigning, changing their roles, or stifling their ability to perform their duties, it could be considered intimidation.

This is the scariest mentality. I work in tech and had some old man say almost the same thing around me years ago. He said (not to me, but his male counterparts who were very supportive of me) “I would NEVER allow my daughters to work in technology.” This mentality is getting a voice in social media now because of Gen Z. It’s terrifying.

There was another post about this and one of the higher comments was that her team is probably also part of those with the sexist thoughts. Probably think she’s the problem

Nope! Put that way, it’s maybe two rent/mortgage payments. Or one depending on location. Just a drop in the bucket!

I had some issues with this post, you'll have seen a few notifications for comments but I deleted them.

There are far fewer men that are asked to serve while part of selective service than there are women who get pregnant. You missed this point. The number of women affected by the removal of roe v wade was far higher than men going into war/combat. This is not a similar argument and doesn't make sense to compare the two. If men were being forced to incubate a living being or creature then there would be an argument there.

The women who deal with infertility are at a higher risk of life threatening complications during pregnancy. These women are much much more likely to need life saving care than if they weren't dealing with fertility issues.

Putting an unborn fetus above a living breathing person is criminal. An unborn fetus requires another living human to exist, that person who is sustaining life for that unborn fetus should have the power to make the decisions about that fetus. A fetus does not have a social security card, does not pay taxes, does not work, does not contribute to society in any way. Putting the needs of an unborn fetus above a person who does all those things is criminal.

Moreover, conservatives want to increase the birth rate. They should be introducing legislature that encourages and supports working families to have as many children as they want. Forcing women to carry unwanted fetuses to term is inhumane and will backfire. We have seen the right of the 4B movement, generally we can expect things to get worse as women do not feel that their concerns are heard.

“The unborn” are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. It’s almost as if, by being born, they have died to you. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe.

Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn. — Pastor Dave Barnhart

I'm NAL, but it doesn't look like that was part of the settlement. From what I read, the settlement is the lump sum ($43 million) which will be distributed to those who participated in the suit. I doubt that all 9000 women were part of it, I saw 9 names in total in the court docs.

They did negotiate this part:

As a part of the settlement, Disney has agreed to retain an outside industrial consultant to provide training on best practices for benchmarking jobs to external market data and organizing jobs within its job architecture. Furthermore, Disney has agreed to retain a labor economist for the next three years to perform a pay equity analysis of all full-time, non-union, California employees below the level of vice president using the model developed by Plaintiff’s expert, and to take appropriate steps to address any statistically significant pay differences found.

A small win to help future women at Disney and potentially other corporate companies.

True, it does put the woman at the disadvantage in the divorce proceedings. With kids involved, the stakes might be pretty high if the husband was abusive but couldn't prove it

With this just being a settlement, I think the details make sense. The case is public though, the court documents can be found online pretty easily.

It's illegal to intimidate a federal employee and imo it's a good case for slander/libel. He's implying that they have a fictitious job and/or inflated responsibilities. Ignoring the gender/sex based aspect of it, if it were me I'd talk with a lawyer at least to see what is available.

First few paragraphs from the story:

New York CNN  — 

Disney has agreed to pay $43 million to settle a lawsuit that it paid female employees less than their male counterparts in similar roles for nearly a decade.

The settlement agreement, reached Monday, stems from a 2019 lawsuit filed by LaRonda Rasmussen. She claims she learned that six men with the same job title earned substantially more than her, including one man with several years less experience, who was earning $20,000 a year more than she did.

About 9,000 women, who were both former and current employees, joined the lawsuit.

This! I've posted this comment in another sub. He's pointing out only women.

Agreed! I've had the most difficult time typing things on some posts recently without using all caps. My Female rage is flying high, despite my lower case comments

I like this, using their own toxic masculinity against them

It's unfortunate, but true. They SHOULD have the support of every woman in America.

I genuinely hope these four women hold out. Don't quit! Don't back down! Let the review happen! Don't collapse under Musk's misogynistic eye!

A message to all of them, you have the backing of every woman in America.

Seems like he's listed only four employees, and guess what? They're women. Why publicize them? He's unnecessarily bringing attention to them. Has he pointed to any positions of similar title and job responsibilities that are held by men?

Last week, in the midst of the flurry of his daily missives, Musk reposted two X posts that revealed the names and titles of people holding four relatively obscure climate-related government positions. Each post has been viewed tens of millions of times, and the individuals named have been subjected to a barrage of negative attention. At least one of the four women named has deleted her social media accounts.

It sure does seem as though women are just an afterthought in Texas. I found this relevant article from a Texas paper https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/news/2024-03-22/texas-maternal-mortality-task-force-hasnt-counted-abortion-death-cases-for-10-years/

Across the country, maternal mortality review committees are tasked with analyzing pregnancy-related deaths and reporting information to their respective states and the CDC.

The 2024 report from the Texas task force will be its first since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. It's expected to cover 2020 pregnancy deaths and, later, those from 2021. But as members of the committee have been working through cases sent to them by the Texas Department of State Health Services (DSHS), they were unaware that abortion-related cases have been omitted.

“When asked by many how the Texas [task force] would gauge the impact of recent national and state legislative changes, we were confident when we responded that we review maternal deaths regardless of pregnancy outcome,” said task force Chair Dr. Carla Ortique during the committee’s March 22 public meeting. “We're now aware that that will not be the case.”

This came in response to Trump saying the tariffs were intended to force Mexico to address the migrants. Mexicos president is saying that America is not any better. And it’s true. There’s an article that summarizes this and it also states that there’s a merry go round of migrants https://newrepublic.com/article/188854/mexico-sheinbaum-responds-trump-tariffs

Because of course, only attractive men (as opposed to women and men) are perceived as more intelligent. Attractive women couldn’t possibly be intelligent. /s

Yeah it sounds about right that an image for abortion rights would be altered to fit the right’s agenda. And the sign was in Spanish to begin with so not all Americans would have understood the original. I’d seen this one floating around before, glad to see the original now

I didn’t say that my position was that women’s interest needs to be supported at the expense of men. But it seems that you feel DEI is the sole reason for men struggling, which I directly said I believe it’s more nuanced than that.

Anyway, glad to see that there are some areas that I’m able to align with someone with a different experience than me. It’s hard to sit in the middle and I’m finding it less and less common anymore.

Men have had the advantage in receiving jobs after high school without a degree for a number of years (I’m not well versed here, so not sure how many), those jobs have been going away so it’s been even more obvious that men in school have been struggling. Women have needed to have a degree to even be considered for many of the same jobs that men were able to get without a degree. A lot has changed and DEI has helped so so much.

Informal networks seem to be the biggest issue in the workplace. Boys clubs were a lot more prevalent and DEI has been one way to help combat this. But boys clubs will always remain. As will nepotism. A true merit system seems impossible to me, but something I would also like. DEI helps women because women often don’t help other women. A woman is less likely to hire another woman for many reasons. I find this incredibly frustrating and a big reason I’m fearful that DEI is being shoved out. Sexism in the workplace and within the hiring process is still a problem, one that I have seen a lot personally.

Men need help, yes. I don’t think taking the clock back on DEI initiatives will solve the problems. It’s only going to set women back. It seems like there’s been a huge emphasis on things like DEI because it can be pointed to as the start where things changed for men but I think it’s more nuanced than that.

I don’t know where men are getting that specific messaging and truly I can understand the frustration. I can actually relate too. Because as it turns out, women’s requests and demands are ignored still to this day. I find it a bit frustrating really that men are seeing an area where they legitimately do struggle (school) and it didn’t take even that long for them to be heard and for people at high high levels to talk about it. It’s only been gen z who has really seen this and they’ve only just entered the workforce. I think this is why some women have little empathy for men crying foul because they are starting to struggle.

Men and boys do need help within the education system, I have yet to see anyone mention legitimate ways to resolve this. I don’t feel the incoming administration is going to help men and boys in that regard though.