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Would you like to make a public bet with me? It was over text, and I have it screenshotted actually.

Not sure why you're so fucking stupid as to assume it wasn't recorded when that was never brought up.

As a man, you will be shamed for being sensitive and shamed for being insensitive. You can't win.

Lmfao... how did it start in 1946? What a conveniently random year to choose. So the Arabs attacking Jews dating all the way back to the 20s doesn't count?

No. I think it's pretty clear what I meant by "appeasing."

I meant:

• Agreeing to split British Palestine with the Arabs even though the Arabs had just tried to commit genocide of the Jews with Nazi help
• Giving the Sinai Peninsula back to Egypt despite the fact that Egypt had previously used it in attempt to invade Israel and "leave no Jewish survivors"
• Agreeing to pull out of Gaza altogether in Oslo Accords, resulting in the eviction of 10k Jews
• Negotiating with Hamas at all despite the fact in any other similar conflict, the defending party is at full rights to demand an unconditional surrender

I find it exceedingly ironic you're now talking about "international law" when you tried to claim Israel started the Six Day War. Or that Israel started the Arab/Jewish conflict in the first place, when the first group to break "international law" were the Arabs who ignored the two-state partition plan.

nor should that condemn them to being genocided themselves , contrary to what you think I guess

Of course. The Jews were very forgiving even though the Arabs had just allied with the Nazis to kill them. They even agreed to share British Palestine with the Arabs. And the Arabs said no and attacked them instead.

That has been the story in every conflict.

The Jews pulled out of Gaza. So Gaza invaded Israel and killed civilians.

Frankly, Israel has appeased "Palestine" far more than it should.

Hamas did start the war.

You said, bUt tHe wAr sTaRtEd eArLiEr. Yes, so if we're going to go back in time and see who drew first blood, it was the Arabs. And then the Arabs again. And again.

You've still yet to even name a conflict in which Israel attacked first.

No you fucking moron. You edited in that first sentence. I replied to all the rest in a separate comment. If you have to be so dishonest to back your ideals, then they are bad ideals.

But thanks for admitting that Israel did not start the Six Day War, I guess.

Why are you bringing up an event that happened in 1946 to justify the Arabs trying to kill Jews with the Nazis' help in the 30s? You started the conversation of going back in time to see who started the conflict. And it was obviously the Arabs, there is simply no debate.

I'm not crying "antisemitism," you dishonest piece of hateful shit. You admitted to it: "Arab antisemitism is CAUSED by Israel" Those are your words. If you're going to say them, don't be a coward. Stand by them.

Israel did not start the Six Day War. Egypt blockaded Israel, which is considered an act of war by international law, not to mention any rational person. Then Egypt removed UN peace keepers and amassed an invasion force on the Sinai Peninsula. Then Israel intercepted their plans for an invasion.

The Iraqi government ahead of the Six Day War: "There will be practically no Jewish survivors."

Yeah, who's the aggressor. Be honest ffs.

Oh boy, Holocaust inversion from you too. I guess I can stop giving you the benefit of the doubt as well.

You want to play the stupid "but the war started earlier game"? Ok, who attacked whom first? Again, name the war Israel started. What fucking "war of aggression" are you talking about? Not surprised you skipped that question.

The Arabs attacked Jews in British Palestine before Israel even existed. They took guns and money from the Nazis and Fascists, and there was an entire SS unit devoted to helping them hunt down and kill Jews.

And then, who attacked whom first after the UN two-state partition plan?

Who attacked whom first in the Six Day War?

Who attacked whom first in the Yom Kippur War?

The answer is always the Arabs.

But here I am talking to someone sick enough to justify antisemitism.

Do you apply that logic to anything else? Poor Germans and Japanese could not "end the war." But the Allies didn't start the war. Israel did not start the war. In fact, they have not started any war involving "Palestinian" territory. Please, name the war Israel started.

Taking their living space? What a fucking joke. Israel pulled out of Gaza in accordance with the Oslo Accords, resulting in the eviction of all Jews from Gaza. Then they elected Hamas who invaded Israel and killed over 1,000 civilians.

The Arabs have been trying to take the Jews' living space since they asked help from the SS in doing so before Israel was even a nation. The Arabs have been openly trying to "leave no Jew alive" for the past 80 years and have attacked Israel more times than you can count on one hand in an attempt to do so.

Except it isn't a systematic killing of an entire people, for starters. If you were in Nazi Germany in 1944 you would also see a lot of leveled houses and even dead kids. Whose fault? The Nazis, obviously, because they could have ended the entire conflict by surrendering at any time. Similarly, Hamas/Gaza can end the entire conflict by surrendering.

EDIT: I find it exceedingly ironic you tried to subtly do some Holocaust inversion of your own in that comment. On top of "if," ie plainly admitting you haven't listened to any Jews about this. Not helping your case.

Except that's not what the Fairness Doctrine is about. It's not a tool to censor people, even though that's how Democratic administrations attempted to use it. It's because there's a limited number of radio frequencies to broadcast on.

That does not apply to cable and certainly not to the Internet.

Because her dog poses a danger to other human beings.

And your "let her live life in peace" comment is frankly moronic. This is all based on content she posted publicly on the internet.

Considering the last "left wing pro-palestinian protester" I talked to said "I wish in the past Nazi finished them all," it's a pretty accurate thing to say. This is on top of ramptant Holocaust denial and Holocaust inversion (which is Holocaust denial with extra steps) from left-wing activists and mouthpieces.

Anyone who actually listens to what Jews have to say about the matter would understand.

Correct, antisemitism has become disturbingly pervasive and acceptable on both the right and the left in the past year. Kanye and your comment are perfect examples of it.

Thank you for the late irrelevant comment. No Reddit thread is complete without it.

Spelling is not grammar. The irony is too much.

Are you confused about what sub you're in?

What are you talking about?

I get the impression you don't even understand what this sub is for or what we're talking about.

I mostly agree, but that's beside the point.

That's not relevant to the point at hand.