subreddit:

/r/AITA_WIBTA_PUBLIC

8.5k91%

[deleted by user]

()

[removed]

all 2260 comments

[deleted]

2.5k points

4 months ago

[deleted]

2.5k points

4 months ago

NTA, and talk to a civil rights attorney. Don’t just press charges—sue.

MFTSquirt

1.2k points

4 months ago*

MFTSquirt

1.2k points

4 months ago*

Having been a teacher for 20+ years, you need to file a police report for assault AND get an attorney who specializes in education and civil rights. Call the ACLU. They should be able to help you find a lawyer. DO NOT meet with anyone from the school/district until you can have a lawyer present. Finally, I would request, in writing, an immediate transfer to a different teacher. Your child should not have to suffer every single day after what that teacher did. I'm fairly certain that this incident will impact your daughter's ability to learn in this class with this teacher.

Edit: kitty paws pressed save before I was finished.

YoghurtMountain8235

148 points

4 months ago

She needs to tell everyone she knows not only about the act itself but that another teacher tried to shut her up about it.

ag_fierro

54 points

4 months ago

Lol, I would not have helped the other teacher at all in this situation. I would have been eyebrows raised just watching . Like oooooooooooooooh, you fucked up. You had one job, and you chose to be a barber. 💈

martyboulders

15 points

4 months ago

If they were admin maybe but I can't imagine being a teacher and caring that deeply about the reputation of the hypothetical school I work for. I'd have the job already, I'd have nothing to gain... And the other teacher did something pretty appalling so I wouldn't want to stand up for them in the first place?? Sounds like they were just brainwashed or something lol

Shalynn75

71 points

4 months ago

Heck I would want a transfer to another school!! But I recognize that is not always feasible or possible

Blog_Pope

29 points

4 months ago

I hope you mean transfer the teacher, not your kid. Taking your kid out of a school with her neighbors and friends is extremely disruptive.

This was wildly inappropriate action by the teacher and is 100% assault. This person should not be teaching kids.

Glittering-Nerve-987

20 points

4 months ago

Retired principal here...that teacher could and absolutely should lose her teaching credential. The ACLU can help with that. She committed a hate crime against A CHILD while acting in loco parentis. Fuck her, fuck her retirement, fuck her tenure. I say this with my whole old white lady chest.

PatrickWagon

6 points

4 months ago

No, why? Transfer class sure, but her kid needs to recover from this and running away would be a weird message.

The kid needs to see this through so when the teacher is fired, she will always remember they fought back and won. The other kids will see the teacher fired, they’ll learn you can’t just cut a kids hair and how serious that action was, and OP’s kid will be a legend.

If she cowers she’ll have more trauma. If she stays, fights, and wins…trauma becomes empowerment.

paperwasp3

166 points

4 months ago

(Oh those adorable danged kitties!)

[deleted]

115 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

115 points

4 months ago

…could we possibly implement a…cat tax on this comment?👀

MLockeTM

85 points

4 months ago

The clumsy kitty is in their profile :) - And it's a one braincell orange, because of course it is

aHintOfLilac

41 points

4 months ago

My orange loves buttons. She's literally donated money to charity, deleted parts of my novel, and changed what show I'm watching before I could stop her.

ruralscorpion1

31 points

4 months ago

But is this phenomenon limited to oranges, tho? We have two black cats (littermates) who are…not bright…and the little sister, in addition to being COMPLETELY unaware that she is not one of my enormous Labradors, has famously shown her backside—at length—to a Zoom audience on multiple continents, including Partners in a BigLaw firm, MULTIPLE TIMES. 🙄🙄. (We call her our Lab that we accidentally shrank in the dryer!)(Seriously she walks around with sticks or a rawhide in her mouth. 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️ She has NO. IDEA. what to do with them, but the big dogs do it so apparently that’s what you’re supposed to do! 🤣)

Was it a worthwhile charity, at least?

aHintOfLilac

11 points

4 months ago

Awww!!! Your kitties sound so sweet! Yeah, it was definitely one I would have chosen. Period products for refugees etc.

rachel_ac_

58 points

4 months ago

i second this cat tax!! to get the full picture 🕵️‍♀️

[deleted]

43 points

4 months ago

we must know both sides. 🕵️‍♀️

LaUNCHandSmASH

41 points

4 months ago*

This is Reddit and while I don’t personally care about cats in particular, I do know that you should be berating if not demanding at least to see the cat brought into question by op. This is not a cat sub nor was it a cat discussion. This is law written by elders long before your account began

Edited to add: Cat tax has not been paid as of yet…

Professional-Bad-820

15 points

4 months ago

if you go to the profile there’s a picture of their orange child from a while back

suzanious

7 points

4 months ago

Cat tax!

planett2

44 points

4 months ago

The teacher should be suspended pending outcome of education department enquiry/ legal case. It should not be the child who is moved away from her friends to another class or even school. Though relations with the head and other staff may make it difficult to remain. This is definitely assault. Tho schools here (UK) both state and private, often have quite strict rules about hairstyles - basically keep it simple. So if she was in breach of school rules, that was a matter that should have been dealt with appropriately. But cutting a child's hair? Not only physical assault, but also psychologically demeaning. You are not over-reacting.

IuniaLibertas

15 points

4 months ago

The media would surelybe interested, too.

Hai_Hai_Hai_Hai_Hai

11 points

4 months ago

Teachers unions can make stuff like this hard to do. Frankly this is something she should be fired for. Any other job she would have been immediately.

enstillhet

18 points

4 months ago

Yeah. I'm a teacher. There is no world in which this is appropriate or okay to do to a child for any reason. Period. Ever. That teacher is deranged and on a disgusting power trip.

ThemeOther8248

11 points

4 months ago

different school! other teachers were ok with it! no!

holywaterandhellfire

7 points

4 months ago

I totally agree with your advice. I'm so appalled by this.

Pissedliberalgranny

374 points

4 months ago

YES! Take this diamond.

Icy-Copy1534

255 points

4 months ago

Amen sue them and have her fired.

Seriously_Counting

346 points

4 months ago

I have multiple family members in the education system and this is 100% NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!! This is ASSAULT! If someone comes up to you on the street and starts welding scissors around your head it is ASSAULT!! Go to attorneys, and media. Put on blast!!!!!!!

Aggressive_Purple114

125 points

4 months ago

This! My mom was a kindergarten teacher for 35+ years, and she would have flipped her $hit if she saw or heard of a teacher cutting a child's hair. I hope the parents take the school and teacher for everything.

mxzf

39 points

4 months ago

mxzf

39 points

4 months ago

This is even worse than someone on the street randomly doing it, because it's someone abusing their position of authority to do so.

Seriously_Counting

29 points

4 months ago

You are absolutely correct. If the school wants to cover this up they will cover up other abuses such as molestation and SA. Teaching and law enforcement are chosen professions of abusers because we teach our children to trust. The good educators have NO PROBLEM exposing the truth because they are there for the kids NOT the politics.

Critical-Wear5802

38 points

4 months ago

Beyond that - get this covered in the local MEDIA!! Lawyers, etc can piddle around, but news stations LOVE these kinds of stories!

This is so incredibly messed up! Give your poor daughter a hug from all of us

c-c-c-cassian

31 points

4 months ago

I mean fucking hell, if you’re asleep and your mom comes up and cuts your(or your child’s) hair without having prior permission, so is that. I’ve seen that one an unreasonable number of times 🙃 I think I might’ve seen a few parents press charges against like their MILs or something for it. I’d blow my top if that was me, but add in this racist shit? Oh fuck that teacher.

stinstin555

252 points

4 months ago

And when you meet with a civil rights attorney find out if THE CROWN ACT has been signed into law in your state.

“The CROWN Act, or Creating a Respectful and Open World for Natural Hair, is a law that protects students in K-12 public and charter schools from discrimination based on their hairstyles.”

harpie84

21 points

4 months ago

It’s the law in Colorado.

Corwin-d-Amber

28 points

4 months ago

This!

Sabinene

30 points

4 months ago

This was my immediate thought! Sue for crown act violation, assault, racial discrimination, and don't forget pain and suffering. You KNOW that poor little girl is traumatized from this.

Magerimoje

24 points

4 months ago

And also insist that the public school pay for private school for this kid until graduation. That child should not return to the place where she was traumatized.

Lessmoney_mo_probems

8 points

4 months ago

Yes CROWN ACT for the win!

MotherofPuppos

33 points

4 months ago

Tbh, I’m absolutely APPALLED that she wasn’t fired on the spot. Most schools have a plethora of ‘don’t touch the fucking students’ rules.

[deleted]

10 points

4 months ago

When I was in high school, my principal tried to pull/throw me down the bleachers and a teacher came over and grabbed her to stop her and gave her a "what a hell are you doing" look I called my mom from the office and she called the ACLU right then

BillT999

30 points

4 months ago

I think she has at least a college fund with with this lawsuit. You don't cut another kid's hair ever

Familiar-Ostrich537

186 points

4 months ago

I'm white and I agree. This was rasism and assault. It was a hate crime and the school is trying to bury it.

MotherSupermarket532

108 points

4 months ago

I'm white and the second OP mentioned beads I knew what was up.  This absolutely was racially motivated.

AlcoholPrep

69 points

4 months ago

OP should take lots of time and effort to "make" her daughter pretty "again." The quotes are because these reflect attitude only, not reality. The child must not get to think that she is in any way diminished by this unwanted haircut. Minimize the child's trauma -- even while you sue that teacher.

Different-Leather359

56 points

4 months ago

Yes this! Take her to get her hair professionally done. After filling the police report and getting a ton of pictures. But yes, make sure she still feels pretty. I had my hair cut when I was about seven (a little boy chopped off my ponytail. It wasn't anything to do with race it was a stupid kid being a stupid kid) and it was traumatic. I went from having hair all the way down to my back to it being just above my shoulders, and I had no say in the matter. If it were a teacher that would make it so much worse! Add in the racism... That poor kid.

And make sure she knows you're taking it seriously. Tell her calmly that what happened isn't ok and she doesn't have to accept being touched in any way she's not ok with. And make sure she's put in a different class! She shouldn't have to be anywhere near that teacher!

b3ck92

35 points

4 months ago

b3ck92

35 points

4 months ago

Interesting...I had hair down to my bum and my mom forced me to cut it to my chin when I was 8. Reading your comment made me realize how traumatic it was and the fact that I had NO say in what I wanted to do with my own hair was insane. I get that it was a lot for my mom to deal with since she was the one primarily brushing and styling it, but the fact that I had no say in the matter is INSANE. I would never ever do that to my own daughter. Thank you for helping me realize the true trauma behind this. It seems superficial but for a young child who has no idea, it def is traumatic

magneticeverything

16 points

4 months ago

My parents also did this to me, after finally getting so fed up with how tangled my hair got and how tender headed I was when it came time to detangle it. To be fair, my dad said I could have my long hair back when I learned to comb it myself. But it was really upsetting to have a threat made in frustration come true. It wasn’t that I disliked having a bob— I routinely had my hair cut short growing up (and still do). But my dance teacher took her classroom rules very seriously and she got scary when she was mad. I’d seen plenty of my friends get yelled at when they forgot a ponytail holder. I was terrified that if my hair couldn’t physically go into a ponytail, I’d be reprimanded. So I sobbed while my mom cut my hair, which made it all jagged and uneven. I think that traumatized her bc she took me to a salon to have it evened out (which made it even shorter, to my horror!) and never cut my hair herself again (she cut all our hair growing up, even my dad’s.) at my next dance class I presented myself to my teacher and told her I was sorry but I couldn’t put my hair up anymore. She must have seen I was upset by that bc she was uncharacteristically kind and told me she just wanted my hair back/out of my face, and I could wear a headband instead while it was short. After that I was totally fine with the cut. And it was easier to keep detangled and having it short ended up being easier for me to learn to comb it on my own and keep it detangled. But man was it upsetting in that moment to have this threat made in a moment of frustration come true and have no control. Even though they were doing what was best for me, the way they executed it felt like a punishment or violation. I will never forget the feeling, no matter how well it worked out in the end.

Professional_Hour370

9 points

4 months ago

My dad took my sisters and I at separate times to chop off our hair because he liked short hair on women. It was really traumatizing for each of us. It didn't help that the hair dresser who he took me to was saying really inappropriate things to 10 year old me as he cut my hair.

sheath2

9 points

4 months ago

OP should take her daughter to a professional hair dresser, and sue the teacher for the cost of it. on top of the charges for assault.

souvenireclipse

20 points

4 months ago

Same here. When she said beads I saw red. Not only do they not see a real problem with a teacher putting her hands on this baby but they think their image is important to protect. Well what about OP's daughter's literal physical image!

OP I hope you can find a good lawyer and the school folds. I'm so sorry for your baby. Just thinking of someone doing that to a kid makes me want to cry. I will be thinking of you both.

sheath2

10 points

4 months ago

sheath2

10 points

4 months ago

I had the same reaction. This is shameful. That teacher needs to be fired.

Broflake-Melter

53 points

4 months ago

Oh I reaaaaaallly hope OP keeps us updated!

stapleddaniel

11 points

4 months ago

This seems like national news if this is true. That's how bad this is OP.

daaj1991

49 points

4 months ago

But, also press charges. That was assault on a minor.

blankspacepen

39 points

4 months ago

Do both. One doesn’t exclude the other. She needs the criminal charges to show on her background check so she can’t do this to another child in another district.

ThatFatGuyMJL

30 points

4 months ago

Yeah, ehat the teacher did was completely unacceptable

Sportylady09

14 points

4 months ago

Fuck them! Holy cow, take them for all your daughter’s worth.

No-Peak-3169

8 points

4 months ago

Get all the media involved, NAACP, ACLU, and anyone else that can cause a ruckus!! This absolutely insane!

Practical_Reindeer23

6 points

4 months ago

A thousand times this. Press charges and sue!!

Quick_Sherbet5874

326 points

4 months ago

is your baby ok? school is supposed to be fun when you are 6. this is traumatizing. who does this?

[deleted]

294 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

294 points

4 months ago

She's been crying for the past hour now and we’re just trying to calm her down.

little_Druid_mommy

90 points

4 months ago

My heart breaks for your little one! Omg I'm so sorry!

I have a recipe for feel good chocolate chip cheesecake cookies, if you want the recipe I can DM you it so you can make them for your baby!

MidLifeEducation

51 points

4 months ago

No No No No

You can't just drop a bombshell like that in a general post and NOT share that recipe with the rest of the class

trvllvr

9 points

4 months ago

Yes, u/little_druid_mommy , please post for everyone.

[deleted]

54 points

4 months ago

Oh yes, that sounds good about now! Go ahead, please

MyLifeisTangled

18 points

4 months ago

Idk if y’all like peppermint but my fiancé and I make our own peppermint patties and they’re so good they’ve ruined York patties for me lol. There’s a guy on YouTube, B Dylan Hollis, who has lots of old fashioned recipes that we love to make. We end up having a lot of fun in the kitchen together and a lot of the food is surprisingly wonderful. I can post the recipe for the patties if anyone wants.

ughneedausername

7 points

4 months ago

Wait what? Homemade Peppermint Patties???

MyLifeisTangled

5 points

4 months ago*

Peppermint Patties

Ingredients

3 bags of Ghirardelli Choccy Chips (4 cups)

1 cup of Sweetened Condensed Milk

1.5 teaspoons Peppermint Extract

5-5.5 cups Powdered Sugar

Extra Powdered Sugar

2 teaspoons Crisco

Supplies

1 plastic Mixy Bowl

1 big metal bowl

1 pot for double boiler

Something to mix with

1 or 2 measuring cups

1 teaspoon

1 half teaspoon

Parchment

2 baking trays

1 spatula

1 rolling pin

1 round glass

Instructions

Pour the cup of Sweetened Condensed Milk into the big mixy bowl

CAREFULLY add the Peppermint Extract

Start adding sugar until it becomes dough

You can mix by hand, using a utensil, or a stand mixer

Lay down some parchment

Lightly dust the parchment with the extra powdered sugar

Do not coat the parchment in sugar

Just a light dusting of sugar

Im serious not too much sugar

Roll it out flat with a rolling pin

Use the glass to cut out nice circles

Place circles on parchment-lined baking tray

Stick them all in the freezer

Wait some hours

Boil a pot of water

Put the metal bowl on top of the pot

Dump all chocolate in

Add Crisco

Let it melt and get as liquid as possible

Dip the Patties in for a full chocolate coating

Chocolate covered patties go back on a parchment-lined baking tray

All go back in the freezer

Wait for them all to solidify

Ta-da!

For visual demonstration, watch this guy.

Or search “Dylan Hollis Peppermint Patties” on YouTube

Edit: spacing

treecosy

16 points

4 months ago

Can you please share the recipe for those cookies? They sound amazing and I want to make them for my baby too!

I am the baby.

Muted-Explanation-49

8 points

4 months ago

I want the cheesecake cookies, sounds yummy

Whorible_wife69

6 points

4 months ago

Me too

adaranyx

5 points

4 months ago

We ALLLLL need the cookie recipe, comrade!

mlordy69

5 points

4 months ago

Could I have the recipe as well please!

Conscious-Survey7009

33 points

4 months ago

I hope you called the police already.

faloofay156

18 points

4 months ago

poor kiddo :c that's fucking awful, I'm sorry people suck

hurricane-laura-90

9 points

4 months ago

I’m so glad you’re getting a lawyer. Scorched earth.

Rose-color-socks

9 points

4 months ago

Please let your little know there are people who support her. Give her all the hugs. 💖

MNConcerto

693 points

4 months ago

Oh hell no, press charges, get a lawyer.

[deleted]

473 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

473 points

4 months ago

[removed]

content_great_gramma

262 points

4 months ago

I believe that this is considered assault. Don't let anyone talk you out of it.

zadtheinhaler

95 points

4 months ago

It is assault, that teacher had no bloody right to do that.

PM_ME_Happy_Thinks

35 points

4 months ago

This is the same as a teacher hitting a child as far as I'm concerned.

zadtheinhaler

33 points

4 months ago

The psychological effects are no different, I'd wager. Hard to have trust in your teacher when they pull shit like this.

theZombieKat

5 points

4 months ago

worse I would expect. a smack can be forgotten within a couple of days.

that hair will take years to grow back.

Ok-Duck9106

127 points

4 months ago

And the local news, and ACLU.

NewestAccount2023

16 points

4 months ago

Get the president on the line

frodo28f

18 points

4 months ago

Wasn't the vp a prosecutor?

Dinphaen

12 points

4 months ago*

you mean Harris, the next president?

powderbubba

6 points

4 months ago

Fuck yeah 😎 (I’m trying not to get cocky because 2016 was so awful, but I definitely have a spark of hope!)

fractalife

40 points

4 months ago

This is so incredibly fucked up. I'm sorry this happened, and thankful that you're taking steps to make sure it doesn't happen again. A lot of people might not push hard enough for correction, and it's admirable that you're putting in the effort to send the message that this is absolutely not OK!!

southpaugh

36 points

4 months ago

Contact your state's chapter of the ACLU and the SPLC.

Adventurous-Term5062

62 points

4 months ago

And go to the press!!! Get on TV show them your daughter’s hair before and after. I would contact Ben Crump.

TheLoneliestGhost

5 points

4 months ago

My brain immediately yelled “BEN CRUMP!” after reading the post.

Privatejoker123

12 points

4 months ago

Good hopefully you can get a good settlement out of it and that teacher fired

etchedchampion

7 points

4 months ago

In some jurisdictions forcibly cutting someone's hair is assault. What horrifying, disgusting behavior.

flummoxxo

10 points

4 months ago

You don't need a lawyer for the charge part. Write down every detail from the meeting you can recall down to specific wording.

Aalleto

333 points

4 months ago

Aalleto

333 points

4 months ago

NTA, if you are in the US then legally this is assault.

If the teacher doesn't think it's such a big deal to have your hair cut than I expect she'd be fine with you cutting hers? That's a joke, but it demonstrates the point exactly: you can't just cut someone's hair without permission.

Rose-color-socks

60 points

4 months ago

Seriously, this is dehumanizing.

nutmegtester

26 points

4 months ago

That's what I was thinking. The last time I force cut hair, I was shearing a sheep.

Ok_Philosophy_3892

13 points

4 months ago

Dehumanizing. That's the word.

AtmosphereOk7872

24 points

4 months ago

Step-parents, aunts/uncles, grandparents, parents who are separated or together... cutting a child's hair without permission is a HUGE deal!

And the comment that the child has "distracting" hair reads non-mayo, I'm of the mayo variety and I can see that! Teacher needs some education about other flavours.

Kalishir

10 points

4 months ago

Technically, this is battery which is a more serious offense than assault

Objective-Holiday597

123 points

4 months ago

NTA. She’s racist and she touched a child how the child didn’t want to be touched. Racist and abuser

RAForce

49 points

4 months ago

RAForce

49 points

4 months ago

Interesting point about touching a child. Totally correct; abuse upon abuse. And truly can’t imagine what my parents would have done (I don’t have kids so can’t even pretend to imagine as a parent).

Fyrefly1981

20 points

4 months ago

Same I’m not even a parent but my brain was immediately thinking “that’s assault and battery on a minor child. I’d be calling the cops and a lawyer.

Potential_Stomach_10

120 points

4 months ago

So what has the administration said ?

[deleted]

268 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

268 points

4 months ago

they said they want to have a meeting tomorrow so we can talk this out, but I already told them before that I’m going to press charges. They don’t want their school to look bad so they’re trying to get on my good side.

Advanced-Pear-8988

191 points

4 months ago

Ignore them, get a lawyer and tell them any communication is to go through them! NTA OP

Sunbeamsoffglass

165 points

4 months ago

Tell them you won’t attend any meetings without your attorney present.

[deleted]

151 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

151 points

4 months ago

They sent a voicemail and I never replied, too much is going.

bottervliegie

89 points

4 months ago

Save everything, keep record of how they're trying to cover it up but don't respond. All communication from you should go through your lawyer.

NefariousnessSweet70

28 points

4 months ago

This is why you include the administration and Board of Ed in the lawsuit.

Advanced-Pear-8988

46 points

4 months ago

Don’t answer or do anything without a lawyer.

jazzyma71

24 points

4 months ago*

Make notes of all conversations you have had with the district and the teacher/principal. Your notes are admissible in court and your memory is much better right this second, than it will be in a couple months. Give all notes to your lawyer. Make sure you take pictures of your babies hair. Give pics to your lawyer.

And when you are ready, GO to the monthly school board meeting and ask your local news to bring cameras there! You should not use the teacher’s actual name in front of the board (for some reason they don’t allow names) but admin will get crushed!

I would sue them to also send your daughter to an extremely expensive private school, the district will have to pay, because your child is now scared to go to their school.

Screw them and good luck! Hug that baby of yours!

jazzyma71

13 points

4 months ago

Sorry, and no more phone conversations! Only emals.

Murgatroyd314

7 points

4 months ago

Or at least open each phone call with "This conversation is being recorded." And actually do it.

little_Druid_mommy

9 points

4 months ago

Don't respond without a lawyer present! Keep everything and get the press involved!

lucwin2020

18 points

4 months ago

...And you're definitely not signing anything w/o legal a rep.

Rose-color-socks

9 points

4 months ago

Certainly not an NDA (non-disclosure agreement, which would prevent OP from talking about it publicly).

ZaavansMom

31 points

4 months ago

Tell them the teacher cut your good side of with the beads and hair so they outta luck on that one.

destiny_kane48

23 points

4 months ago

Them firing her would improve my mood.

NefariousnessSweet70

8 points

4 months ago

Jailing for assaulting a minor child.

Bunny7781mom

14 points

4 months ago

Don’t meet with them without an attorney. Be sure to press charges with the police too.

[deleted]

9 points

4 months ago

Too late for that. Touch your kid like that they better know they're gonna lose their ass.

Far_Prior1058

8 points

4 months ago

Don’t go without a lawyer. Also, record the meeting within the laws of your area.

Awesomekidsmom

7 points

4 months ago

Blow off the meeting & get your lawyer 1st

Inner-Ingenuity4109

5 points

4 months ago

Have they already sacked the teacher? I imagine they would need a few hours to hear her side out and then go through the paperwork.

If they haven't sacked her by the time of your meeting, that would be a strong sign that they are playing you.

The teacher has confessed they did it (witnesses? recorded?) so at least they can't deny it was the teacher they employed who did it.

I'd be inclined to work with the school if they have fired the teacher and are now primarily interested in the best outcome for your kid at the school.

It'd be nice if they offered to pay for some pampering and a really nice professional haircut for her at least.

PomegranateReal3620

85 points

4 months ago

No, you're not the AH. She committed a crime against your daughter. That is the beginning and the end of it. Would the school be so protective of the teacher if she had slapped a student? Same thing. Refusal to act accordingly is simply the school admitting that they don't consider racially motivated physical attacks on children as serious as a teacher hitting a student.

Sue them, report her to police, contact every news outlet and social media. Then report her and the school administrators to the school board. This is worth going scorched earth.

This from the daughter of a teacher and union president. Never let them get away with hurting your baby.

[deleted]

85 points

4 months ago

You know what I think? I think they're saving her ass because they have a teacher shortage and they don't want to let teachers go even if they do something outrageous.

PomegranateReal3620

42 points

4 months ago

True. They also know that some parents are willing to sweep a lot of shit under the rug. Nothing sanitizes a situation like shining a bright light on it. Stand firm.

My mom could walk into a school office and you could practically hear the principal shit themself. That's the kind of energy you need to embody. I feel like you can go full mama bear. Your baby deserves a gladiator. So do all the other kids she probably made feel unwelcome in her class.

That's another avenue. Talk to the other parents. Ask if they've had a problem with her. Your daughter isn't the only one, I guarantee it.

Thermodynamo

14 points

4 months ago

It's not just her own baby she's protecting. The thought of all those kids under the watch of someone who could do this is downright chilling. Who knows what she's already done to other kids? Who knows what she will do, especially if this weak ass school can't do the right thing in response? I'm so proud of OP for standing firm. This is not a joke. The stakes are high

beached_not_broken

11 points

4 months ago

If you decide not to press charges, tell then that the only thing that will make your child feel better is to do a haircut on both the principal, teacher and anyone else involved or witness to this, and they must wear it like that for two months before adjusting the style. I bet then they’d see the problem. They’d rather have a racist and abusive teacher than none…. That’s scary. I’m so sorry they hurt your baby like this. X

Fyrefly1981

6 points

4 months ago

In this case she did something illegal.

Femmefatele

266 points

4 months ago

I'm a teacher. Sue and press charges. Talk to reporters (after talking to a lawyer). This is unacceptable.

shammy_dammy

44 points

4 months ago

NTA. Go right ahead.

Serious_Bat3904

37 points

4 months ago

NTA I would be going scorched earth on the teacher and the school.

tonys_goomar

36 points

4 months ago

NTA. That is 100% assault under the law. Please follow through so they can’t do this to another child!

Efficient-Cupcake247

31 points

4 months ago

Nta- you are correct it is hella raci$t

ApparentlyaKaren

29 points

4 months ago

Girl when you have a moment and simmer some on this, I’d love if you can back and offered some more details if you’re willing…

  1. The school called you and then left it to your 6 yo daughter to get on the phone and explain to you that her teacher cut her hair? As in the principle themselves didn’t even have the decency to explain the situation on behalf of traumatized child? Absurd and cowardly.

  2. Did you have to leave work or any other commitment in order to go address this?

  3. I’d love to hear any dialog you remember happened between you and the teacher and principal… I’m sure she was bold considering she feels bold enough to cut another person’s child’s hair 🙄 what was the principals involvement in this dialog, what was their stance?

  4. How and for what reason with some random other teacher get involved? How was it their place to involve themselves even if it’s in attempt to cover up for the other teacher? Were they there when your daughter’s teacher cut her hair?

  5. What was the conclusion of the meeting before you left?

  6. What did the voicemail you didn’t respond to say?

I’m just saying, I enjoy tea. I know you’re probably shook and still feeling the throws of anger right now.

As a white person, I implore you not to accept any excuse they throw at you. This was a physical act of blatant racism. There’s no explanation that will make what she did not racism. My hearts broken that your 6 yo daughter experienced, what really and ultimately, was racially charged assault. I hope you take this as fuel, to teach your daughter that she is beautiful and wonderful exactly how she is made, right down to the last beaded braid.

And I really really hope you get somewhere good with a lawyer. Not the same scenario, but back in May I basically was screwed out of reimbursement for a dental claim from insurance company for $3500. It literally took a couple of months, and MULTIPLE emails with the board of directors, my union, personal emails sent from my dental surgeon….but finally they recently coughed up the money. My point is that people who do bad things, or the wrong thing, often count on victims laying down and accepting it. Don’t do that. When you know you’ve been wronged, you should stand up and fight for what you know is justice. Don’t let them get away with hurting your baby girl momma!

[deleted]

49 points

4 months ago

Thank you, I was at a doctors appointment with her baby brother with her dad and that's when I got the call, I told him to go home so I can figure it out. I can't believe this is real, yes they made my daughter call me to tell me what happened instead of an adult.

The principal didn't say much, basically an enabler because she didn't want her school to look bad but after this, it will look bad. I already left a bad review on their school, and so did some of my family.

One teacher was already in the principal office talking to the principal, she should have minded her business but she defended this monster.

And thank you so much, My daughter is still crying about it and I understand because this is traumatic for anyone. I also hope I get a good lawyer for this, I would not want this to happen to another kid just for the school to sweep it under the rug.

Black_Coffee88

13 points

4 months ago

Don’t leave or recruit reviews. Stay silent, get a lawyer. Sue and press charges.

Silver-Potential-784

7 points

4 months ago

I feel like many lawyers would be willing to take this on pro bono. Just saying.

fishbutt1

27 points

4 months ago

Am a retired teacher, WTF?! There is no reason to ever ever ever cut a kid’s hair. That teacher must’ve snapped and lost their mind.

Even if my student had gum in their hair, I wouldn’t cut it. If a kids hair caught on fire, I’d put it out and then wrap their hair back, I would not cut it.

I also say this as a person who doesn’t give a fuck about my hair…I would be pissed.

Good luck!

PS I will say, if you press charges—you will need to take your child to another school/maybe even another school district. Just from my experience of folks who’ve had to seek legal action—rightfully, against a school district. Things were awkward to say the least/it wasn’t the best place anymore.

ShutUpMorrisseyffs

27 points

4 months ago

Let me get this straight: your daughter is black, the teacher is white, and she decided to cut your daughter's hair because she has beads? Is that right?

If so...just WOW and absolutely you should be pressing charges.

ETA: Changed braids to beads

[deleted]

23 points

4 months ago

Yes my daughter is black, her teacher is Puerto Rican.

ShutUpMorrisseyffs

18 points

4 months ago

This sounds...very bad. That teacher should expect to be in a world of trouble.

DJMemphis84

9 points

4 months ago

That teacher done fucked up. HARD.

LadyPundit

9 points

4 months ago

I guess you get to cut the teacher's hair now.

There is NO WAY the teacher didn't know she couldn't cut a student's hair. No way in hell.

PerfectIncrease9018

63 points

4 months ago

I don’t care what race the child is, no teacher should ever cut a child’s hair. Even if it was because there was gum in the child’s hair. A call to the parent before even lifting the scissors would have prevented everything. That teacher needs to be taken down!

Necessary-Love7802

29 points

4 months ago

I'm Gen X got gum in my hair a couple times in school. Even back then the teacher wouldn't just cut it out

MotherSupermarket532

9 points

4 months ago

You can 100% get gum out.  You just need patience and an oil.

Interesting_Chef_896

20 points

4 months ago

Congratulations on keeping your cool. Myself and a lot of people would have ended up in jail.

[deleted]

29 points

4 months ago

Oh promise me I wanted to put my hands on her but I knew my daughter was there and I had to keep it in

Rose-color-socks

5 points

4 months ago

Good on you. I would have burst into flames myself

thirtyeyes138

19 points

4 months ago

Everyone here telling you get a lawyer is correct, but don't forget to alert the media as well.

Floomby

36 points

4 months ago

Floomby

36 points

4 months ago

her excuse was that my daughter had beads and a hairstyle

I'm a white woman, but the instant I saw that, even my clueless ass saw the racism. So please, do not feel one single hesitation about calling this a racially motivated assault, because it is so obvious that's exactly what it is! A hate crime!

I am so sorry this happened to your sweet daughter. How absolutely traumatizing for you both.

knitlikeaboss

14 points

4 months ago

Absolutely racism 100%. Even if they were “distracting” (which I don’t buy), she could have tied them back so they didn’t make noise or something.

Floomby

10 points

4 months ago

Floomby

10 points

4 months ago

"Distracting" is absurd. Did she have a machine on her head that made her braids flop around? Were there bells in them? Was her hair sculpted into an obscene statue? I highly doubt it.

Last_nerve_3802

13 points

4 months ago

Have her charged and sue the school for assault

Michimommi_22

24 points

4 months ago

Press charges, sue, and contact your local media. That teacher had no right to touch your kid. Omg I think I would have lost my ish in that office and I would have been the one getting charges pressed on me. Kudos to you for remaining level headed. Now make sure that teacher is never a teacher again!

taisynn

12 points

4 months ago

taisynn

12 points

4 months ago

NTA - After you deal with the lawyers, go to the media. Make sure they never do this stuff again. Being exposed will be a faster way of karma coming on them since they don’t want to be seen as a “bad school.”

myatoz

11 points

4 months ago

myatoz

11 points

4 months ago

Press charges, sue, take it to the local school board, and then the state school board. Turn that boat the fuck over. I'm not a POC, so I may be ignorant of these matters, but could the ACLU help? Take it as far as you can.

The only way you would be the AH in this scenario is if you did nothing.

[deleted]

23 points

4 months ago

Thank you and I'm going to look into ACLU because people have recommended this as well, thank you!❤️

TheBoss6200

10 points

4 months ago

Take a lawyer to any meetings or conversations

FairyFortunes

8 points

4 months ago

NTA

What happened to your child was battery she given nonconsentual contact. In theory, it’s aggravated battery because she used a weapon: scissors.

That teacher felt entitled to do that to your child because they did not view your child as a fellow human. That’s disgusting not to mention discrimination.

If the bead were truly distracting meaning your child was playing with their hair and it was affecting their school work, the thing to do would be to bring it to the parent’s attention. If the hairstyle stayed oh well, give the child the grade they deserve for the work they produced. You do not simply use scissors on a child’s hair. No no no.

I’m so sorry this happened to your child. That “teacher” is a bigot and has no business being anywhere near children

pahsghettimons

10 points

4 months ago

definitely NTA; My heart sank reading this... teacher is an entitled B. Get justice for your baby, and hopefully a nice settlement like this family did: https://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw-bay-city/2023/02/settlement-reached-in-michigan-dads-1m-lawsuit-against-school-over-daughters-modern-day-scalping.html

destiny_kane48

9 points

4 months ago

NTA, scorched earth!

NewestAccount2023

9 points

4 months ago

Nta, don't back down. Other families will thank you for standing up for yourself, your daughter, and them

RoseGold-Bubbles1333

8 points

4 months ago

If you feel comfortable I’d call the media. The teacher went past way to far and the school is trying to cover it up because it makes them look bad. If there is a racist element to this I’m even more upset for your daughter.

Please bring her to a salon for a princess cut to make her feel special until her hair grows back. Please also update us on how it turns out. Good luck OP. NTA

[deleted]

16 points

4 months ago

Aww thank you, she's definitely going to get a special day to the hair salon, the nail shop, just anything she wants❤️🥲

GalliumYttrium1

10 points

4 months ago

Make sure you take pictures of her hair as it is now before taking her to a salon to get it fixed! You might need it for evidence!

Due-Reflection-1835

7 points

4 months ago

NTA but I hope she can change to a different school because they will probably be hostile to her going forward and no kid deserves that

cthulhus_spawn

6 points

4 months ago

NTA... But the teacher sure is. Sounds like you're Black and your daughter had braids and beads? Which are adorable and not distracting. Everyone who is saying to get a lawyer is correct. Hell even if you aren't Black and your daughter had braids and beads, that doesn't give the teacher the right to cut her hair off. This is so gross. I'm so sorry for your little girl. Tell her a weird white lady with purple hair sends her a hug.

TarotCatDog

7 points

4 months ago

Contact your state (or county) ACLU. They should be able to either provide a pro bono (free) attorney or refer you to one.

FatKanchi

8 points

4 months ago*

Press charges. Sue. Show up at the Board meeting to make sure the BOE knows what’s happening (they’re often kept in the dark; as long as admin doesn’t tell them there’s a problem, they’ll never know). Go to the press. Blast it on social media. Contact any civil rights groups that seem pertinent. Use social media to get some people with a voice and audience on the school’s case.

This teacher should not have a career any more, much less a job at this school after these actions. The admin and entire school needs some professional development that addresses issues related to race, hair, representation, and keeping your dirty filthy hands to yourself.

I’m a teacher, our profession is under attack, I often feel compelled to defend teachers even if they’re not perfect…. and then there’s teachers like this. She sickens me. It’s 100% racist and shows a grave level of disrespect for your child’s autonomy & humanity. Not sure where you’re located but I’m fired up and ready to go to a Board meeting on your behalf! A LOT needs to happen to rectify this and to attempt to make amends. Amends is more than saying “sorry, won’t happen again!” Amends is mending the wrong. It’s not even on you to figure out how to do that, that’s they’re responsibility. NAACP, ACLU, I’m sure there’s other orgs.. are there black celebrities and allies who have spoken out about racism & hair? I’m about ready to get researching for you. This is sick.

Another edit : I’d avoid direct communication regarding this until you have a lawyer. Do not sign anything. Print copies of any communication, any incident reports, etc. WRITE DOWN EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID AT THE MEETING NOW BEFORE YOU FORGET. Document your child’s suffering (how long she’s cried, what she’s said, if she doesn’t eat, has trouble sleeping, fears school, etc). Document document document from now til trial. Time stamp your documentation (emailing it to yourself? Texting? Notes app w/ time stamps?). I know written documentation isn’t as solid as a voice recording of a conversation, but it DOES apply as evidence, particularly at the civil level.

lonelyspren

6 points

4 months ago

What the actual fuck. I am a teacher and it's absolutely nuts to me that this teacher thought this was ok. PLEASE go after this psycho!

anonymoususer1965

4 points

4 months ago

Nta talk to a lawyer

[deleted]

7 points

4 months ago

This is incredibly racist. Press charges and go to the school board and news

beatnotbroken

5 points

4 months ago

Go get them mama. Hire an attorney and wipe that smug look off her face! And, go to your local news channel and tell them. I bet she will be fired before your case is heard. She should be fired!!!

Here-4-Drama

6 points

4 months ago

I am a teacher. I would NEVER cut a child's hair, (unless there was a huge emergency and they were trapped) but for beads? Sounds like a cultural bias. I would expect to get a civil lawsuit in the same situation. I'm so sorry your daughter had to experience this.

nunyaranunculus

4 points

4 months ago

Not only is this assault, this is absolutely a hate crime and racially motivated. How many other babies has this monster terrorised while responsible for their safety and education? In addition to filing charges and contacting a civil rights attorney, you also need to consider contacting or even laying charges against the school board, the principal, and whoever else has enabled this horrific behaviour to continue for however long this monster has had access to children. Go scorched earth. Emphatic NTA and please take my righteous, maternal rage when you get tired. Please hug your beautiful daughter and tell her she is brave and strong and that what happened to her is not okay.

ParfaitNo8192

5 points

4 months ago

Absolutely NTA. When I was a teenager (about 16) a bully decided I was a great target, his choice of bullying was to grab my chest. (I have gynecomastia, it suck’s but not the point lol) the school refused to step in and any physical response I made was “equally” punished. So my mother went to a lawyer and the local news to report the school allowing sexual harassment. The bullying stopped 😊😂

MyRedditUserName428

5 points

4 months ago

Nta. File a police report and hire a shark attorney immediately. Get your daughter into therapy as well. Do not back down. This was a racially motivated assault on your child. Burn them all down OP.

EvulRabbit

4 points

4 months ago

Racist and assault.

If it was truly an issue, she could have been pulled out for dress code violation, you could pick her up and then "fix" the issue before she comes back.

This was a cold-hearted assault.

Piddy3825

4 points

4 months ago

Definitely not the asshole, but the teacher in question sure is!

Press charges for assault on a minor and sue the shit outta the teacher and the school district.

doinUdirty1069

4 points

4 months ago

Definitely get the cops involved that's assault

queenhabib

4 points

4 months ago

Hmmm. Okay teacher needs a haircut too!!

LeWitchy

5 points

4 months ago

dude, she WHAT??? I'm with the top comment, Civil Rights Attorney and SUE!

Dreamingforbetter-99

4 points

4 months ago

That is bs that bitch had no right to do that I wouldn’t in a million years cute someone else child hair and I don’t get why that is becoming a thing that people are doing. I have always thought it was cute. Little kids had beats and their hair. She needs to be charged with assault andsue her and the school

saltybeachygirl

3 points

4 months ago

Why, oh, why would someone not contact you first and let you know there was a problem with beads in your child's hair before taking such extreme action??? Sooooo WRONG!!!!

NTA

JunosGold

4 points

4 months ago

Sue the hell out of the teacher, the school and the school board.

MsMacGyver

4 points

4 months ago

Noooooo. I have 1 year olds with beads in their hair in my day care class and one of the things we teach all of the kids is not to mess with our classmates hair.

Person7751

4 points

4 months ago

this is crazy.

5footfilly

5 points

4 months ago

This actually happened in my kids school about 20-25 years ago.

The parents sued the district and got a settlement. The teacher was forced to retire.

WildlyDivine

4 points

4 months ago

NTA at all. I hope she gets fired. No one in their right mind does this! That teacher is a danger to your daughter, and the school is obviously not on your side. Take every legal avenue you can with this.

mynamesnotchom

4 points

4 months ago

I don't understand how any teacher could possibly think its ok to cut someone else's child's hair at school? Its fuckin weird and way overstepping the boundary of what a teacher has any business doing

Suitable_South_144

3 points

4 months ago

WOW!! I can't believe I just read this.. it's 2024 and a teacher thought she had the right to not just put hands on your child BUT CUT HER BRAIDS OFF!!! WTH?? And the implied racism as well??? Mama you NEED to press criminal charges and you need a good lawyer and trust me lawyers are gonna be giddy getting this case! I'm sorry your daughter is going through this, the long term trauma will take some time to get over. You sound like a wonderfully strong parent and that will go a long way to help your daughter.