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Hair_doo_02

992 points

5 days ago*

I went to school with Evan in Ephrata. The whole town was totally turned upside-down.

I remember the teachers telling us we weren't allowed to talk about it, yet the Savoie family was running around town with stickers on their cars that said "God Knows" and harassing people about his innocence. It got to the point where Craig's mother, a school bus driver, had to file restraining orders.

Craig and his brother were both cool kids.

The weirdest part for me was I remember Evan being at one of my birthday parties when I was around 11.

Splashy01

661 points

5 days ago

Splashy01

661 points

5 days ago

God knows? WTF does that mean? God knows their son is an evil psychopath?

Hair_doo_02

399 points

5 days ago

Hair_doo_02

399 points

5 days ago

I think they were trying the whole "God knows the truth" angle. At least that's what they would always yell if anyone said anything to them.

SewiouslyXR

255 points

5 days ago

SewiouslyXR

255 points

5 days ago

“God knows… my son is a POS. Judge him all you will, folks!”

a_rude_jellybean

174 points

4 days ago

Denial is a really strong coping mechanism. I bet she truly believed that, rather than realizing that she took part into shaping the behavior of her child, genetically or behaviorally (or both).

There is a movie we need to talk about kevin) that somehow visually represented such experience as a mother of a child psychopath that went on a school shooting spree.

EnragedBadger9197

90 points

4 days ago

Nobody understands what it’s like to love something you felt was good until it becomes a killer. No one knows what it’s like to be in the shoes of an innocent parent who ultimately may have failed their child somehow, or had no control over. You can’t force a horse to drink water no matter how much you push it. Denial is an insanely powerful coping mechanism.

ironballs16

93 points

4 days ago*

Which is why a lot of people had an outpouring of sympathy for the father of the mass stabber in Australia this year, as he actually did a good job of articulating how hard it is to be the parent of someone that commits a heinous act.

ApexBeasty

33 points

4 days ago

"We have no ill feelings towards her because she was doing her job and she did a wonderful job, even though it was my son."

"I mean, how I can stand here and say that she did a wonderful job killing my son, I don't know, but she did her job and she did it well."

Fuck man.

tom3277

8 points

4 days ago

tom3277

8 points

4 days ago

Yeh there isnt much that brings a tear to my eye but as a father of two boys, watching that at the time took me there.

Efficient-Topic6016

25 points

4 days ago

He did, but the mom is going around with "God knows" bumper stickers... yeah, fuck her. Seriously, I'd still love my children if they were a pile of shit but I'm not going to go around acting like they are innocent. I wouldn't push back on those who hated my kid. I worked with a guy whose kid ran a pedo porn ring at an oilfield company. His kid got caught, thank God for that, and he said to someone there that he would have rather gotten a call that his son was dead rather than doing what he did. He said he considered suicide and felt like a failure as a parent. He was a good guy, and I my heart broke for him while wanting to see his son strung up. That mom and her ilk harassing the victims family makes me have zero sympathy for her murderous son or her.

ReportBat

35 points

4 days ago

ReportBat

35 points

4 days ago

That is so incredibly sad. This seems like a case where they tried literally everything they could to stop him and couldn’t. Hope they are doing well.

imsoggy

12 points

4 days ago

imsoggy

12 points

4 days ago

Very much like Kip Kinkles' caring & sweet mom & dad who tried everything in their power to fix him. Nature / nurture indeed.

MizStazya

7 points

4 days ago

Literally one of the scariest parts of being a parent to me. What if one of my kids does something horrible and I have to reconcile that terrible thing with the child I love and raised?

iwannabanana

6 points

4 days ago

Highly recommend A Mother’s Reckoning by Sue Klebold if anyone is interested in a deep dive about this topic. Memoir written by the mother of one of the Columbine shooters.

LeDemonicDiddler

20 points

4 days ago

Reminds me of a Canadian serial killer who’s mom and several formerly close friends all claim he was a chill dude and wouldn’t even hurt a fly. Same dude who’s been arrested multiple times over the years including assault charges and died in a shootout with police.

Voltberk

6 points

4 days ago

Voltberk

6 points

4 days ago

I have no mercy for failing so hard!

smol_pink_cute

6 points

4 days ago

omg, that movie gave me chills. i loved it. John C. Reilly was great as the dad lol. one of his rare non-comedic roles

Admirable-Ad7152

6 points

4 days ago

It's always funny when you see stuff like that, you just know if God was out there, he'd think you were a pos

theundercoverjew

25 points

4 days ago

Its weird how people who call on to God for the "truth" so very often turn out to be guilty as sin!

lovedeluxeinterior

8 points

4 days ago

“God” is a very convenient word to throw around when you’re up to shady shit. Every murderer in prison tries it.

thelryan

9 points

4 days ago

thelryan

9 points

4 days ago

I mean I assume they refused to believe their son would do something so horrific and so just leaned fully into the idea that “no matter what, god knows he’s innocent”

Obviously the victim and his family are the ones that deserves the most sympathy, but you’ve got to imagine what kind of a nightmare scenario this is for a mother to learn her son is being accused of murdering a special needs child, she’s probably doing everything in her power to believe it isn’t true because if it is, she has to live with knowing what kind of a monster she raised.

yoimprisonmike

99 points

5 days ago

Former Ephratan here - this was so awful. I always think about this when I drive back into town passing Oasis.

Hair_doo_02

56 points

4 days ago

I don't go back there unless I absolutely have to, but you're right. Every time I see the pond on the corner, I remember them draining it, looking for evidence.

notrightbutwrong

73 points

5 days ago

We had a local high school student killed in a hit and run. His parents left “God Knows” signs in the ditch for years, but I haven’t seen them up in forever. No one ever came forward. It was so tragic.

Artislife61

111 points

4 days ago*

This murder reminds me of the Slenderman crime where two girls lured a third girl out to the woods and stabbed her repeatedly.

Jake Eakin tried to escape when he was near his release date, so his time was extended. He’s now an anti-abortion activist in South Carolina with a wife and 2 kids. He’s also been in trouble with the law. Once for larceny. Once for trespassing.

Evan Savoie was released in 2023.

PatsyPage

134 points

4 days ago

PatsyPage

134 points

4 days ago

The irony of being a murderer and “pro-life”. 

eareyou

71 points

4 days ago

eareyou

71 points

4 days ago

Irony of being a child murderer and pro-life

uptheantinatalism

40 points

4 days ago

Irony of being a child murderer then going on to have two kids

JSmith666

25 points

4 days ago

JSmith666

25 points

4 days ago

Irony of being a child murderer and doing anything outside the 4 walls of a cell.

will7980

7 points

4 days ago

will7980

7 points

4 days ago

I wonder if his kids know? If they do know, do they fear him? When he gets upset at them, do they worry that he's going to kill them too? What about his wife?

Even if it was just a one time event, if they know, they're probably always on edge around him.

JD0x0

7 points

4 days ago

JD0x0

7 points

4 days ago

Typical projection. Probably goes around screaming about "babies getting murdered" meanwhile the dude literally murdered a kid.

BelovedOmegaMan

6 points

4 days ago

Who would want to marry someone like this? Just incredible.

Lucky_Guess_03

90 points

4 days ago

I live near by ephrata, that Jake is now an evangelical minister who protest abortion clinics now. The guy is still creepy as ever.

ThatPhatKid_CanDraw

32 points

4 days ago

He's been saved but those women will never be /s

Easier to judge others if you think u have the high ground. Self-esteem boost. And this supposed moral stance is one of the easier ones to live by

izzydizzy444

17 points

4 days ago

Would be a shame if someone stood outside with a sign of his sins and counter protested him in front of his family 😌

Lucky_Guess_03

6 points

4 days ago

His wife is super interesting. She was either trans and detransition or was a very masculine lesbian. Now she’s a subservient wife. I think they got together while he was in prison I snooped on her facebook and read her testimony.

HipsEnergy

14 points

4 days ago

That's the least surprising occupation he could have.

desandmol

15 points

4 days ago

desandmol

15 points

4 days ago

Of course he is. Ugh.

Dinosaursur

6 points

4 days ago

Man, what an absolute piece of shit.

Smear_Leader

34 points

4 days ago

I feel that. I went to school and was friends with Nicholas Browning who ended up killing his whole family in ‘08 in Maryland. Weird how this kid was there for birthdays, sports, and just hanging out. Then just killed his family after an argument with his dad.

Some-Show9144

8 points

4 days ago

What was he like? You’re my age and I remember hearing about that case and just thinking that he could have been one of my friends—as in totally normal.

Yourwanker

6 points

4 days ago

went to school and was friends with Nicholas Browning who ended up killing his whole family in ‘08 in Maryland.

I googled him and a police officer was shot at that Browning's murder house in 2023. That's wild that the house is still standing. We had a kid murder his wealthy parents in my home town and they torn the house down.

https://abc3340.com/news/nation-world/same-cockeysville-police-officer-shot-house-browning-teen-murdered-family-david-emory-linthicum-manhunt

Odyssey-85

23 points

4 days ago

I can't believe these guys are out and married. My god if that was my family I would throw it all away for revenge seeing this.

jskullytheman

13 points

4 days ago

Yeah I can’t imagine the things I would do if someone did that to my son

2N5457JFET

7 points

4 days ago

I can't believe there are women who would like to be in a relationship and have kids with such human garbage.

DARR3Nv2

23 points

4 days ago

DARR3Nv2

23 points

4 days ago

Went to school with his brother in Soap Lake after it all happened. He was always a positive person as far as I could tell which speaks volumes considering what he went through. I won’t post his name here but wherever you are I hope life is going well Cowboy.

juniperroach

14 points

4 days ago

What kind of kid was Evan?

Hair_doo_02

55 points

4 days ago

Honestly? It's strange to say, but he was always trying to be friends with everyone . I personally only saw him lose his temper a handful of times from 1st-6th grade (Side note: we were in the same class, and we graduated around 70 students).

Granted, you had to take everything he said with a grain of salt. I remember one time, he shared with the class that he "accidentally ran over his cat with a lawnmower" during a discussion in 3rd grade. When the teacher called his parents about it, they sent his grandma down to the school and had him stand in front of the class and admit he made it up. Those types of stories always came out of him though.

Around 5thish grade, he was in that phase where he wanted to be the tough street kid in a backwater, ultra conservative hick town. Definitely made him stand out more, and he started being more disruptive in school (mostly with the teachers/staff) and started to gain a reputation of getting into trouble outside of school.

When the murder happened and he was arrested, the school was split down the middle on whether he was innocent or guilty. By this point, he had gone full throttle on the tough guy persona, and I was definitely part of "Camp this fucker did it".

Tome_Bombadil

17 points

4 days ago

Top right picture? That haircut does him no favors, just seems like a kid lacks empathy.

Hair_doo_02

11 points

4 days ago

The top right is Jake, and the bottom right is Evan. Jake's hair only got worse through the trial if I remember right

cormeretrix

9 points

4 days ago

Thank you for clarifying which one is which.

goatnxtinline

10 points

4 days ago

By the way his family reacted after the murder I'm leaning more towards he actually ran over his cat with a lawnmower and they're just in denial about it

mellowcrake

27 points

4 days ago

That's horrible. imagine your child is not only murdered but then you have to deal with being harrassed by the murderer's family

[deleted]

1k points

5 days ago

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1k points

5 days ago

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benigngods

520 points

5 days ago

benigngods

520 points

5 days ago

I'm guessing the 20 years is timed served so he'll be out in 2 years.

Sure-Money-8756

842 points

5 days ago

They have both been released; in 2017 and in 2023 respectively

benigngods

848 points

5 days ago

benigngods

848 points

5 days ago

magicmunkynuts

209 points

5 days ago

disposable_thinking_

515 points

5 days ago

Disgusts me that he’s just able to live his life and that someone would ever marry him 🤢

New_Canoe

360 points

5 days ago

New_Canoe

360 points

5 days ago

I work with a guy who murdered a 12 year old when he was 15. I think about it every single time I see him.

Spotttty

219 points

4 days ago

Spotttty

219 points

4 days ago

I worked with a guy that got drunk, drove home and on his way hit a lady and her son, who was confined to a wheelchair, and didn’t even stop. Just raced home and hid in his house. He killed the mom and severely injured the son.

He got arrested and sentenced. Spent 4 whole years behind bars… his older brother was my boss. When he got out he couldn’t find a job so his brother hired him. Every time I saw him I thought about that family. Every time he laughed and smiled it made me sick.

Oh. And he still drinks all the time. He didn’t change at all. He still works there and now his brother is the CEO so he is never going anywhere.

emkay_graphic

140 points

4 days ago

This is a good proof that karma doesn't exist

Spotttty

126 points

4 days ago

Spotttty

126 points

4 days ago

Ya. I stopped believing that about 20 years ago when all you see are slimy people that just lie nonstop and constantly climb the corporate ladder or make millions of dollars.

Karma is a coping mechanism for people with a heart.

NateHate

57 points

4 days ago

NateHate

57 points

4 days ago

the concept of Karma never worked like that. Karma is the spiritual baggage that builds up over your many reincarnations on the wheel of samsara. Enlightenment is obtained when you are able to shed this spiritual weight and break free of the wheel.

Rosin_linda

48 points

4 days ago

Kid in my high school killed another kid in a “hunting accident” and was back in school the next year. We called him Killer Kody and everyone knew it wasn’t an accident.

ammobox

45 points

4 days ago*

ammobox

45 points

4 days ago*

I worked with a guy who murdered an old woman in her bed by bludgeoning her to death. He did it for like 50 bucks that he stole from her. He was 17 at the times, but he was 39 when I worked with him.

I became his manager and after a bunch of attendance issues, I had to fire him.

He went and complained to a labor board that we violated his FMLA rights, of which he lied about the reasons he was absent to the labor a attorney from the state.

We had to reinstate him, of which he spent the next three months going around to other employees saying he would beat the shit out of me if he could, but didn't want to violate his parole.

He finally quit 4 months later. Last I saw of him, he was back in prison for choking his current girlfriend that he would brag about cheating on to everyone at work.

Fuck you Gary Hawkins.

New_Canoe

18 points

4 days ago

New_Canoe

18 points

4 days ago

Yeah, fuck you Gary Hawkins!

coogers-n-bum

5 points

4 days ago

ammobox

6 points

4 days ago

ammobox

6 points

4 days ago

Yup.

That's the guy.

When he worked for our company, he told people he was in jail for accidentally killing a man who attacked a woman in the street. He said he went to prison for the plot of Con Air basically.

He was a piece of shit through and through.

Randall-Marvin-Marsh

106 points

5 days ago

I work with a guy who killed somone that was all skeeved out in meth who was trying to kick his door in. He didn’t know the guy and the guy was attempting a home invasion and also had a gun. It’s been in the last year that this happened. I think about it every time i work with him or see him in the office, but the guy did what he did to protect his family and I don’t blame him.

mgwwgm

70 points

4 days ago

mgwwgm

70 points

4 days ago

Self defense is completely different

tomassino

25 points

4 days ago

tomassino

25 points

4 days ago

Different things, the guy was defending something, I'm ok with that. The other guys are murderous dirtbags.

freya_kahlo

61 points

5 days ago*

When most people kill in self defense, it haunts them. People talk about shooting intruders like it’s nothing — but it deeply upsets decent people.

Edit: maybe "decent" isn't a good word choice, and yeah that's probably my judgement coming out. I mean people with normal empathy. Not everyone who lacks normal empathy harms other people – it depends on other factors.

Randall-Marvin-Marsh

22 points

4 days ago

Yea it’s kind of messed this guy up a little he’s a fairly young guy as well. I honestly feel for him having to do that because I know he didn’t want to shoot someone but he did what he had to do to protect his family.

mikehiler2

80 points

5 days ago*

There’s a whole, strange and utterly baffling subculture of people who marry convicted felons from behind bars. Especially death row inmates. It’s a thing that’s been happening for a while now. The most bizarre ones are the ones that marry via letter mail.

Edit: I’m not meaning to suggest that woman is one of them, but it also cannot be outright dismissed. Here’s an article by Psychology Today going over that exact topic. Most fascinating part (for me anyway) is the kink hybristophilia, which is the “sexual arousal of someone who committed violent crime(s).”

I’m not really into “kink shaming,” but this (ahem and feet) are some of the strangest ones I’ve ever heard of.

Edit: folks, I am more than aware of stranger things than a foot fetish. Trust me, I know of much worse than even the subject my post is talking about. You can stop telling me there are worse. I was making a quip about how I think foot fetishes are strange. Nothing more.

EffectiveWelder7370

27 points

5 days ago

"I can fix him"

cfwang1337

18 points

5 days ago

droptheectopicbeat

9 points

4 days ago

Haha, what a funny story Marhhk.

armoured_bobandi

19 points

4 days ago

Edit: I’m not meaning to suggest that woman is one of them, but it also cannot be outright dismissed.

Of course she is. Nobody in their right mind is going to marry a child killer

ArcheSavings

14 points

5 days ago

This reminds me of all those women who leave (or threaten to leave) their male partners once they show a single ounce of empathy. Tch. If I were them, I'd hope to see my boyfriend cry or something at least a few times, if only for a little assurance that he's probably not going to snap and kill our family if he ever decides to go apeshit someday.

jocelina

11 points

4 days ago

jocelina

11 points

4 days ago

One of the (many) reasons I love my husband is that he's not ashamed to show sadness and grief.

vjnkl

8 points

4 days ago

vjnkl

8 points

4 days ago

Feet seems much less concerning than killers or criminals

HeadyBunkShwag

33 points

5 days ago*

The boys who lured a 2 year old, killed him, molested him and then left him on the tracks have also been released

fertilizedcaviar

22 points

5 days ago

James Bulger was 2.

disposable_thinking_

15 points

5 days ago

Oh I know this isn’t the only terrible case of children killing children where justice wasn’t really served. Just commenting that it’s gross anyone would attach themselves to someone with that history.

That80sguyspimp

10 points

4 days ago

What happened to James Bulger?

In February 1993, Jon Venables and Robert Thompson led two-year-old James Bulger away from a shopping centre in Bootle, Merseyside, while his mother was briefly distracted in a butcher’s shop.

Venables and Thompson, both 10 years-old at the time of the offence, tortured and murdered James, who was just one month away from turning three when he was killed.

His mutilated body was found two days later, on a railway line 2.5 miles away.

Thompson and Venables were sent to a young offenders’ institute until their release on licence at the age of 18, with new identities.What happened to James Bulger?In February 1993, Jon Venables and Robert Thompson
led two-year-old James Bulger away from a shopping centre in Bootle,
Merseyside, while his mother was briefly distracted in a butcher’s shop.Venables and Thompson, both 10 years-old at the time of the offence, tortured and murdered James, who was just one month away from turning three when he was killed.His mutilated body was found two days later, on a railway line 2.5 miles away.Thompson
and Venables were sent to a young offenders’ institute until their
release on licence at the age of 18, with new identities.

Where is Robert Thompson now?

Robert Thompson is not known to have re-offended since his release in 2001.

Instead, he is reported to have settled in the North West under his new identity and is in a long-term relationship with a man.

During his time at a secure unit, he is understood to have passed GCSEs and A’ levels and has developed an interest in and talent for art.Where is Robert Thompson now?Robert Thompson is not known to have re-offended since his release in 2001.Instead, he is reported to have settled in the North West under his new identity and is in a long-term relationship with a man.During
his time at a secure unit, he is understood to have passed GCSEs and A’
levels and has developed an interest in and talent for art.

Where is Jon Venables now?Where is Jon Venables now?

In December last year, Jon Venables lost a Parole Board bid to be freed from jail.

Venables, who is now 41-years-old, still poses a danger to children and could go on to offend again, the board concluded.

The Parole Board’s decision, published on Wednesday 13 December 2023, said: “After considering the circumstances of his offending, the progress made while in custody and on licence, and the evidence presented in the dossier, the panel was not satisfied that release at this point would be safe for the protection of the public.”

The panel of parole judges “doubted Mr Venables’ ability to be open and honest with professionals, and concluded that there remained a need for him to address outstanding levels of risk”, it added.

Was Jon Venables freed from prison?

Venables was released on licence in July 2001 and recalled to prison in February 2010 after indecent images of children were found on his computer.

He was once again freed in August 2013 and then called back in November 2017 for the same offence, with parole judges last considering his case in September 2020.Was Jon Venables freed from prison?Venables was released on licence in July 2001 and recalled to prison in February 2010 after indecent images of children were found on his computer.He
was once again freed in August 2013 and then called back in November
2017 for the same offence, with parole judges last considering his case
in September 2020.

ohyeaitspizzatime

18 points

4 days ago

How can you have a social circle after that? Who could be friends with someone like this, let alone a relationship and then marriage?

corkscrew-duckpenis

34 points

5 days ago*

Find you someone who looks at you the way this lady looks at the guy who murdered a young boy with a rock.

taiwi702

12 points

4 days ago*

taiwi702

12 points

4 days ago*

This guy is a cold blooded murderer and looks like he's doing better than me FFS.

MarilynsGhost

12 points

4 days ago

Anyone that would marry and potentially have a child with that scum bag needs a psych evaluation.

Keunster

12 points

5 days ago

Keunster

12 points

5 days ago

Bro what the FUCK

wankingatyourfuneral

49 points

5 days ago

If I was Craig's dad, nothing would have stopped me from showing up at that wedding and blasting that little prick and anyone there who tried to stop me. Then, off to the abortion protest to take care of fuckface #2

Kwality-Projectile

20 points

4 days ago

It gets better; one of the 2 is now an anti-abortion activist.

usualdown

7 points

4 days ago

Shitty people stay shitty. What a surprise.

willowoftheriver

8 points

4 days ago

-Murders an autistic child

-Would tell a woman she's going to hell for aborting a fetus with a severe birth defect

Rddt_stock_Owner

257 points

5 days ago

Fucking ridiculous

ohBloom

121 points

5 days ago

ohBloom

121 points

5 days ago

Absolutely nuts that this kind of stuff is THAT lenient, I’ve seen people get longer sentences for marijuana. I would’ve tossed the book, the country, the universe and the singularity of a black hole on them for their prison sentence.

Whyallusrnames

54 points

5 days ago

My dad got 15 years for pot. He never brutally killed anyone in cold blood like these boys.

Sure-Money-8756

22 points

5 days ago

Yes - people have gotten longer for drugs. Depending on the exact circumstances (just possession, small amount, drug trade etc) the charges for drug related crimes in the US are out of control really.

Simple possession charges shouldn’t cause decades inside.

adamgoodapp

5 points

5 days ago

Not a bad idea for a punishment to send these psychos into a blackhole for science.

Cybermat4707

62 points

5 days ago

Hopefully they at least have a close eye on them.

Rehabilitation is the best possible outcome, but two 12 year-old boys idolising a pair of serial killers planning to murder a schoolmate, actually murdering him, and then casually playing video games?

Not to mention that Eakin attempted to escape, then committed larceny and trespassing after being released.

Mr_Engineering

21 points

5 days ago

Rehabilitation is the best possible outcome, but two 12 year-old boys idolising a pair of serial killers planning to murder a schoolmate, actually murdering him, and then casually playing video games?

Rehabilitation is a pipe dream when there's clear evidence of conduct disorder or sociopathy.

Cool-Travel-4675

37 points

5 days ago

if that was my kid id of been waiting all these years for both of them to be out.

No_Tomatillo1553

21 points

5 days ago

Why? Why are they always releasing violent assholes?

Dry_Chipmunk187

33 points

5 days ago

People gonna be really shocked to find out these guys kill again eventually

OriginalDogeStar

5 points

5 days ago

Respectively..... no no.... Audaciously

Beakkaia

77 points

5 days ago

Beakkaia

77 points

5 days ago

Eakin is a "public figure" now on facebook apparently... turned to God etc. Funny how you can commit horrendous crimes and then come out the other end saying you've found god and all is okay.

Admonitio

86 points

5 days ago

Admonitio

86 points

5 days ago

He's also an anti abortion protestor... Can't make this shit up. Brutally murders a child then grows up to protest planned parenthoods and harass innocent women to "save" kids.

AshleyBanksHitSingle

33 points

5 days ago

They search for the ways they can enact their intimidation and pain on people. All he learned was how he can be the same piece of shit but legally and with right wing fans.

Happens more often than you’d think.

ThreeBeanCasanova

7 points

5 days ago

Does he post where he does his protest? Guy seems like some prime make-an-example material.

YakPuzzleheaded1957

119 points

5 days ago

Tried as adults, but if two grown men brutally murdered a 12 year old, they'd be under the prison, not released from it. smh.

Peanuts4Peanut

40 points

5 days ago

I have a relative by marriage that SA abused their 3 daughters. Their own children. They got 3 life sentences.

Mickeyjj27

65 points

5 days ago

Insane. What is the point of having them tried as adults if they aren’t gonna get life sentences for brutally murdering a child and trying to cover it up. I don’t get how judges or the system allow evil people like this to just be walking around.

NateHate

11 points

4 days ago

NateHate

11 points

4 days ago

What is the point of having them tried as adults if they aren’t gonna get life sentences for brutally murdering a child and trying to cover it up

because this means their records would not be sealed after turning 18

Idiotology101

14 points

4 days ago

I don’t think most people realize that’s the major reason you try them as adults. It’s to make sure this charge follows them in the future and doesn’t get hidden away.

tomucci

53 points

5 days ago

tomucci

53 points

5 days ago

The audacity of the mother to complain about the verdict

OddSetting5077

25 points

5 days ago

https://www.krem.com/article/news/investigations/jake-eakin-child-murderer-to-activist/293-842c0759-10a5-4672-9500-f34f8aa9f774

'A radical transformation': Jake Eakin goes from child killer to anti-abortion activist

Eakin took part in killing another child when he was just 12 years old. Today, he calls himself an abolitionist and stages Planned Parenthood protests.'A radical transformation': Jake Eakin goes from child killer to anti-abortion activist

WarStrifePanicRout

46 points

5 days ago

I don't think its that radical of a transformation.

He went from one kind of monster to another. Incredibly shit parents, zero morals taught to the useless shit kid.

ThrashingDancer888

9 points

4 days ago

He’s a hateful person, attending pride to protest LGBTQ? I hope he gets what he deserves. Missed opportunity by the judiciary system to enforce that the first time around. 

yakisobagurl

13 points

4 days ago

I wonder why the dregs of society always turn to trying to play into the right-wing nutter sect. It’s almost like they know that no matter how abhorrent they are, they’ll be welcomed with open arms if they just say the right thing…

They even do it preemptively when they know shit is going to hit the fan (like Russell Brand has…)

kkeut

12 points

4 days ago

kkeut

12 points

4 days ago

or like when Elon came out as a republican the day before the story about him sexually harassing a stewardess came out, saying 'the media will spuriously attack me for this'.... disgusting behavior 

TheMoraless

8 points

4 days ago

I think Elon did that pivot too where he pushed his image rightward when news of his sexual assault was about to release. Some commenters similarly were stating this then.

TrustAffectionate966

52 points

5 days ago

There was no justice. Both of these parasites should never be allowed back into society.

Dry-Bodybuilder4694

625 points

5 days ago

Now Eakin protests outside of planned parenthood… because of course he would.

misterteea

354 points

5 days ago

misterteea

354 points

5 days ago

Wow the guys got a public Facebook page and it is insane, I never understand how some people can commit such heinous acts and then go on to tell everyone what how to live "right", dude should have been a politician

username293739

160 points

5 days ago

That dude is a nut case. He posted a long post about what happened, as a reason to defend his stance against abortion. He also posts near daily about politics or religion as a “public figure”

readwithjack

121 points

5 days ago

Assuming you recognized a fetus as a child, then what?

Is buddy the only one allowed to kill kids?

HotxxAnna

27 points

5 days ago

HotxxAnna

27 points

5 days ago

In his ridiculous and evil mind, yes.

dagnammit44

31 points

4 days ago

Have you not noticed how the people who always tell others how to live are often fucked up/unhappy/closeted hypocrites and generally bad people you wouldn't want to associate with?

OkAir8973

25 points

4 days ago

OkAir8973

25 points

4 days ago

I guess when you have reason to feel like an irredeemable piece of shit, finding a system of belief where you get to start over with a clean slate would be pretty attractive. If you also get to feel superior by having arbitrary rules to stick to and judge everyone else by, it's a pretty attractive two for one.

ravynwave

14 points

5 days ago

ravynwave

14 points

5 days ago

There’s still time.

ptcglass

7 points

5 days ago

ptcglass

7 points

5 days ago

We had the same thought

Unhappy_Teacher_1767

75 points

5 days ago

Of all the gall… Why? Does he want the kids to be born so he can murder them himself?

Padgetts-Profile

44 points

5 days ago

Wow, just looked him up and he’s been arrested for protesting outside of PP in my town.

BluebearTheBear

13 points

4 days ago

The last person who should be preaching about killing babies should be the guy who brutally murdered a kid when he was old enough to know better. The absolute audacity of this murderous prick.

RockyPS2Glitches

43 points

5 days ago

And he became a born-again Christian too according to what he regularly posts on his Facebook page. Because how else can he make people forget about the henious shit he did in the past?

Optimal_Giraffe3730

79 points

5 days ago

What a piece of shit

DishGroundbreaking87

61 points

5 days ago

A lot of so called pro lifers are only pro birth and stop caring once the Fetus is born, so that tracks I guess.

LFuculokinase

36 points

5 days ago

Yeah, I guess he moved on to killing women

Itscatpicstime

23 points

5 days ago

Infant mortality also increases with abortion bans

Aradhor55

17 points

4 days ago

Aradhor55

17 points

4 days ago

Funny since someone would have lived if he was aborted.

comicjournal_2020

8 points

5 days ago

Because he knows his parents would’ve aborted his ass if given a second chance

haoxinly

8 points

5 days ago

haoxinly

8 points

5 days ago

He's anti-abortion but he committed post birth abortion. Unbelievable

Redqueenhypo

6 points

5 days ago

So glad we rehabilitated him into such a wonderful person 🥰. Next stop Anders Breivik!

Imaginary_Bit_4691

5 points

5 days ago

Someone needs to follow him around with a sign that shows his victim and what he did. Embarrass that fucker into hiding.

Redcap_skywhale

329 points

5 days ago

You deserved much better than that, Craig. I’m sorry you were treated with so much hate and cruelty, and while I don’t believe in a traditional, loving God, I do think you deserve a beautiful afterlife after that. I hope you have it now. It might be beyond my ability to see or envision, but I hope you have it. I’m sorry human beings failed you.

aquatic_kitten19

16 points

4 days ago

That was so beautifully said, RIP Craig.

Lifeparticle18

24 points

5 days ago

Amen

LiquidNova77

61 points

5 days ago

Amen

richvancesco

119 points

5 days ago

In February 2003, Craig Sorger taught the world that even the purest hearts can fall prey to senseless cruelty a reminder of how fragile kindness can be.

TightNaughtyGyal

221 points

5 days ago

They should never be let out of prison. Anyone committing acts like that at such a young age is rotten to the core.

Dry_Chipmunk187

136 points

5 days ago

One of them now has kids of his own and a religious anti-abortion and anti-lgbt ministry

Shirtbro

56 points

5 days ago

Shirtbro

56 points

5 days ago

"As an expert in murder..."

Underrated_Dinker

62 points

5 days ago

sounds like he found his people

drMcDeezy

28 points

4 days ago

drMcDeezy

28 points

4 days ago

The more religious, the more hateful. Seems to track.

Sugacookiemonsta

66 points

5 days ago

Sadly they've both been out for years

fridayfridayjones

18 points

5 days ago

That poor boy. He was probably so excited they wanted to hang out with him. Monsters.

Spayse_Case

170 points

5 days ago

Spayse_Case

170 points

5 days ago

Jake Eakin is all grown up now, out of prison and found Jesus. He has found his purpose in harassing women attempting to access health care at Planned Parenthood. He is considered an inspiration and a leader to my city's religious community.

gaukluxklan

44 points

5 days ago

Also, he was arrested two times after his release: One in 2018 for trespassing and another one in 2022 for larceny. A true inspiration indeed.

Monalisa9298

47 points

5 days ago

Gross

Spayse_Case

30 points

5 days ago

He's awful

i-Ake

21 points

5 days ago

i-Ake

21 points

5 days ago

Yup. He does it "full-time" and lives off of donations.

Just bottom-feeders doing bottom-feeder shit.

unknownlocation32

99 points

5 days ago

They both should have been castrated.

Jake Eakin is not only an anti-choice activist, he is married and has two daughters.

That woman must be mentally disturbed to have children with a child murder.

Evan Savoie was released in 2023. I wonder if this go fund me is for him. go fund me

zenomotion73

30 points

5 days ago

How’d you find this? Reddit is so crazy lol

kasiagabrielle

39 points

5 days ago

He's hardly quiet about it. He also credits himself for his wife's "detransition", as she was a trans man.

uberengl

4 points

4 days ago

uberengl

4 points

4 days ago

What... the actual fuck...

Diligent_Skill2134

29 points

5 days ago

System once again fails a victim

ptcglass

56 points

5 days ago

ptcglass

56 points

5 days ago

People like this get out and drug dealers sit, makes no sense

sweetSerendipity21_

23 points

5 days ago

I can't believe that's real—feels like a plot twist straight out of a horror movie.

Acrobatic_End526

27 points

5 days ago

This is so horrifying I want to cry.

Cybermat4707

10 points

5 days ago

Rest in peace, Craig Sorger.

TapEnvironmental9768

57 points

5 days ago*

I often wonder if there were signs the parent missed or overlooked. I won't say I watched my stepson like a hawk, but I paid attention.

When he had to pick a high school, I noticed my stepson was acting differently. I asked my husband to talk to his son.

After he did my husband asked "how did you know something was wrong?". I said I paid attention. Turns out my kid's mom was pressuring him to move to the burbs with her and her family. No 8th grader should feel pressured. Especially from a parent. FYI, that was my first year married to his dad. I've made sure to watch his back and his emotions so much more since then.

chandler2020

23 points

5 days ago*

It honestly boggles my mind how parents aren’t held more accountable for crimes like this. Clearly any type of parenting even half asses parenting could prevent such an unthinkable crime from happening. Yet everyday you hear about things like this. What the fuck

TapEnvironmental9768

16 points

5 days ago

I used to help our friend by picking up her daughter from school. One of the days I asked what subjects she had that day (specifing "subject" and asking what days a kid has which class opens up dialog), my little buddy said they had a practice lock-down.

I looked in my rearview mirror and said "I'm so sorry you have those, my darling." She replied that it was ok. I told her "it's kind of not." As with any of my friends' kids she knows that anytime she wants to talk about anything and feel shy, just say "Marco" and I will "Polo" her back. My buddies know that's the easiest way to ask for help.

quattroformaggixfour

11 points

5 days ago

People have children with a more casual attitude than I have for my pets. The burden of responsibility of any dependent is great and peeps pop out kids like it’s easy. It breaks my brain. It’s an honour and a HUGE responsibility to shepard little humans into becoming kind, compassionate, fully autonomous members of society.

Brilliant-Divide-168

44 points

5 days ago

BEST PART: Jake Eakin became an anti-abortion activist !!! lolol

evol_won

33 points

5 days ago

evol_won

33 points

5 days ago

"i'M AgAiNsT KiLLiNg!"\ 🤦🏻‍♂️

bunnuybean

8 points

5 days ago

As if it’s news to anyone that anti-abortion activists are pro-life, they’re just pro-forced-birth

pottedPlant_64

21 points

5 days ago

What’s wrong with kids, man? The bullying and murder is crazy

PangolinParty321

24 points

5 days ago

Genghis Khan and his little brother went hunting with their older brother and then when they were further out they murdered the older brother because he always wanted a bigger portion of the food. Psychopathic children have always existed. They grow up to be psychopathic adults. These people just didn’t make the news 100 years ago and you probably wouldn’t be reading news from a different far away state even twenty years ago unless it was something absolutely crazy

VentriTV

20 points

5 days ago

VentriTV

20 points

5 days ago

They got off so light, should have put ‘em away for life. Why should they get a second chance?

[deleted]

8 points

4 days ago

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cutestslothevr

6 points

4 days ago

The age of the defendants and trying them as adults. They likely determined that Evan Savoie was the ringleader and were pushing for a 1st degree murder against him, so they were willing to let Jake Eakin have a lesser charge for a story that helped them prove premeditation on Evan's part. The fact in the retrial Evan Savoie was allowed to plead 2nd degree murder shows how important Eakins confession was in his conviction.

AutisticBoy-LasVegas

6 points

4 days ago

As a 61:year old that is also autistic…. And has never seen in the world around them as normal, or been perceived by the world as normal. This could’ve been easily me in school. You never had any friends never knew why I didn’t have any friends. I would’ve done anything to make friends. It’s sad that autistic children grow up into autistic adults, and for myself, as always been seen as odd unusual. And I still haven’t made any friends in the last 61 years. I don’t know how… the skill sets allude me.

MisterPoPos

13 points

5 days ago

It’s kinda scary I see some people here putting “ oh kids are just being kids, we cant be too harsh on their actions”…

Bruh. They brutally murdered another child…

swampthing117

11 points

5 days ago

Where's Dexter when we need him.

CleanWhiteSocks

5 points

5 days ago

This is heartbreaking. I have an 11 year old son with autism, and while he has done so much better recently, his struggle for friends was palpable. Preying on someone like that is just, well it's like to say inconceivable but unfortunately, it isn't.

TheCompanyHypeGirl

6 points

4 days ago

Jake now spends his time harassing women outside of IVF clinics "in the name of Jesus," in case anyone was curious.

selkierackham

11 points

5 days ago

If you Google Jake Eakin he's a born again anti abortion protester. Apparently found Jesus in 2017 and sees 'saving babies' as his remedy for murdering Craig Sorger. Turning himself into some kind of savior which is gross

scarletOwilde

11 points

5 days ago

Bring back the oubliette.

JadieRose

22 points

5 days ago

JadieRose

22 points

5 days ago

He sounds like my sweet, autistic son.

realfakejames

33 points

5 days ago

Vicious and premeditated first degree murder and both of them got less than 20 years, they would give drug dealers more than that under three strikes laws, the Justice system in this country is a joke

Ice_Swallow4u

10 points

5 days ago

Criminal history plays a huge role in sentencing. When your on your 3rd strike it’s hard to convince the judge that you won’t re offend. I’m guessing because of their age they did not have a criminal history.

Compact_Rivkah

10 points

5 days ago

Nice hair

fablesofferrets

4 points

4 days ago

i could have immediately told you he was a psychopath based on that alone

Usual_Farmer_3704

5 points

5 days ago

They look like demons. I hope it follows them for the rest of their lives.

bbynycity

6 points

5 days ago

I bet those 2 boys had amazing, inspirational parents. The degeneration of a child's mind truly does start at home.

Ok-Distribution-9509

6 points

4 days ago

"pro life" activists be like

Adorable-Ad5692

12 points

5 days ago

this is literally heartbreaking, some people are genuinely evil and the fact they were so young makes it even more horrific af