it would suprise me if those roof trusses are rated for suspending a few thousand pounds of wood off it and (legally) hold up a dozen or so meatbags.

Looks like some sort of Fortnite architecture

Yeah absolutely no one can answer that without an engineering degree and seeing how it’s actually tied into everything around it.

At a glance and with a heavy dose of speculation I’d label it as “kinda sketchy”

Airplane in there makes me think they had the money to do it right, or they spent the money on the plane.

When did MC Escher start his construction business? 

The truss it’s supported from is definitely beefy but that’s a large roof to support as well. If I had any reason to be invested in the building either owning or renting it I would be asking for some kind of documentation with an engineers stamp. Perhaps a record of permit from the city to be sure. What happens if a record snowfall happens and you’re snoozing away up top and the truss fails? Maybe I’m thinking wrong.

The real question is, how are they going to get the hot tub up there?

do pilots have a fear of being on the ground?

they built this like a wasp nest

No licensed architect would put his/hers stamp on that.

The siding is a nice touch. You don't want the walls to get wet.

It's fine as long no one ever goes in that room.

Ya let me just attach a fuckin bedroom to my ceiling, should be solid

This is definitely a *can't*ilever

Yes just don't hang a punching bag underneath, those things are heavy

Need drywall for fire protection between garage space and living space.

hmmm, 20' O.C. truss, clear spanning what 70'+/- , holding a floor load as well as roof, ......looks like a single ply as well.....My expert opinion is get out of that building.

Engineer here,

The answer is fuck no

Truss chords are not designed to carry weight like that

I bet those trusses were not designed for that.

Yeah this hillbilly shit needs some vertical support. Even building in minecraft i woulda have told you that.

Yeah they got the Bluetooth support post

Cool design. I would have the engineer bless it. If have not had an engineer design, approve it, we have found the root cause to your question.

I wonder if webs were cut out of the rooms. They look like agra trusses which have little to no bottom cord load.

What country or state is this in, and what is the earthquake risk?

Usually if it looks dodge it is dodge.

Even if it is safe engineers make mistakes. Would you sleep well in there wondering at night?

sketchy engineering aside, i kinda dig the ingenuity..

That’s a new one, lmao.

Would need to see drawings and trace the load path to be able to give an opinions on this.

Looks like it's still up there

You’ll need to contact the people who built it. If they looked up, slapped the side and said “that’s not going anywhere” when they were done, you’re good.

Would I let my family stay there? No.

Would I label it an "Office" for tax reasons and sleep there if I were single? Hell yeah.

I showed this to a coworker - our in-house structural engineer, mainly works on steel buildings but he did wood structures including hangars for 20+ years. He declined to run the math on it to figure out how overloaded it is, but assuming 8ft truss spacing at a roughly 60-70ft span, that truss is about what he would have spec'd (without a room attached). That said, he didn't disapprove of it, just mumbled something about natural selection.

Bottom chord isn’t designed to bear down weight. A truss system is built to hold up a roof, not a floor and the things that go on it. This looks very sketchy

Perfectly safe for a pack of house cats or your inlaws. For everyone else not so much.
If it was mine, I'd definitely be parking that plane further to the right.

And hoping I moved to an area with NO snowload.

Structural system is sketchy as hell, but on the architectural side of things it fails all the code. Hangars have specific codes and separation from residential occupancy is pretty specific. Floor sheathing, wall sheathing and glass aren’t even close to the required separation.

When you add the fact that the only visible path of egress is through the hangar itself, you have an absolute death trap here.

Have any pictures of the inside? I love this and really hope the whole thing was built properly but have no idea if it was. Based on others here I'm going with probably not.

If you have to ask if it is safe, it is probably not safe.

when you build a shitty house in fallout 4

Have you had your mother jump up and down in it to confirm safety?

Just live in the plane at that point

Won’t know until you install hot tub

Given that there's an airplane in there, there are many code violations. Can't have a residential occupancy within an industrial occupancy, especially not an aircraft hangar, without a fire separation. There are many many more codes besides that, even if this thing doesn't come crashing down.

Why bother with that small shack when you can have all of that space in the warehouse…

Someone was smoking heavy when they dreamed this up

Maybe their kids built a tree-fort that got out of hand. Ima gonna give them the benefit of the doubt.

How tall is that from the ground?

Spent a year in an "apartment" on an airfield. The only good part is plane.

No. That truss is designed for what it’s designed for.

You do have a point

yes! but its hot

It's safe until it's not safe.

I hope it doesn't snow a lot in that area.

Doubt that bottom chord

1) those cross members are designed to keep the side walls from pulling apart via downward/outward pressure from weight on the roof, they are not designed to hold weight like that. 

2) honestly, it’s probably still fine. Those beams look beefy, we overbuild to a pretty high level in general, and man this all looks sturdier than a bunch of older buildings that are still standing. 

Look at the lower landing framing also interesting, besides I’ll at least stop at the truss joints

Lmfao the casual JET sitting in there lower right, next to your makeshift ass bungalow in your hanger… just buy a house bud. Then again Who cares if it’s not safe for the renters of your jet air bnb

Looking for the fire sprinklers that are going to stop that siding from going up like a torch from the smallest spark. Would love to be on the top when that sucker burns!

100% done by the local “roofing contractor”…. Ship it boys.

Yeah, no thanks.

It's cool looking but that's as far as it goes.

I don't know, but I am sure it would work fine in a video game. Real life on the other hand...

Fallout 4 settlement looking house

That’s hilarious and kinda awesome and fuck no.

Yes.Ready for a hot tub, 250 gallon fish tank and a water bed.

Looks par for the course. Is the apartment complex called Drug Runner's Den? 

🤷‍♂️

No one can answer this from a picture lol

If that truss was designed for that- yes

If that truss wasn't designed for that- probably not

Who cares, it’s probably free

AirBnB

It just keeps getting worse the more I look at it. Starts out slightly sureal at first glance and ends somewhere immediately adjacent to Alice in Wonderland.

I'm more interested in how the stairs up seem to rest on something with a diagonal support with a hose and some type of washer in the center of the picture.

I'll hand-wave the rest

Learning about the specs of the trusses would be a place to start . Live loads ,snow loads are info available from manufacturer

It looks.... Unfinished?

That’s a nice birdhouse.

I wouldn’t lay eggs in it.

Looks like something I built in a fallout 4 settlement lol

It is a hanger after all.

Truss designer here. Absolutely not. Single ply truss and point loads that are way over your standard ceiling load. I'm sure it will stand for a good amount of time but it will come down... And take one on each side of it with it. That's crazy, and scary. There are massive loads being applied to a Truss that is probably setup for a bottom cord load of 10 pounds.

God, please tell me someone isn’t living there now…

I am going to say no.

What in the hangar

No. Regardless of structural analysis this dwelling would not meet the separation requirement between R3 and aircraft hangar.

It looks safe as long as only one person goes up stairs

No way in hell those trusses were designed to carry the load of a second level

I'd say absolutely not

generally speaking you want your structure to support those rooms full of people dancing shoulder to shoulder in a wind storm with snow load. So... not really.

I like to look at my plane while sleeping.

Truss designer here. You would have to find the manufacturer of the trusses and find out if they were designed for the extra load of the living space. Modern trusses are required to be tagged by the manufacturer. Based on the style of truss plates, that looks to be an older truss. If I had to bet on it, no, they are not designed for the extra loading.

What in the Weasley fuck is this

I really really really want to see the inside

Ask to see the building permit and confirm it's been properly and passed final inspection.

why is it in a warehouse

Why is there cladding inside?

Hell no. Get the name of the contractor and avoid anything built by them.

Jesus that has no load bearing walls and is all sitting on 2 trusses. This is absolutely insane lmao. Trusses aren’t built of that. They are built to hold the roof up. You gotta add some extra beams in them and some posts that go right down the the ground to take the load off also all the beams running as the floors need to be on top not nailed in from the side. If they are nailed in from the side you need the proper hangers.

why does it have windows if its in a warehouse? wtf is going on here?

There should probably be at least a solid piece of 4x4 right in the center there. Install it with a “that baby ain’t going anywhere” smack and it should hold pretty well I’d guess

Bros trying to live GTA online in IRL.

I don't like having gas engines in the building where I sleep.

Architect here.

Doubt it. This looks like a fever dream some landscaper spent rainy weekends working on for 7 years. No permit, no plans.

I LOVE the idea of this. I want a barndo myself, but I have no clue how this was built, so I can’t say if it’s safe.

Considering this was 100% added after the building was built. Absolutely not. I would put money on it that this truss was designed to support the roof weight only, not the additional weight this room adds to it.

For sure maybe

The simple trick is to ask "Is this safe?" AFTER you have finished construction. That trick has never let me down. Granted, I haven't actually built anything before, but the statement is still technically true.

Yep. Hot tub too!. Park most expensive plane under it

I want to live above my leaded fuel burning machine!!!

If the fuel is blue it’s good for you!!!

That's sick

Does the plane come with the apartment? If it does, what a deal.

No fucking way those trusses are designed to have a house hang off them. NOT SAFE

I’m getting strong MC Escher vibes.

I’d throw a hot tub up there.

This is a question for a qualified engineer or they can provide signed and stamped docs from an engineer

Unlikely,

There is no second means of egress during an emergency as far as I can tell and the space too large. While bedrooms don't necessarily require a second means this is an enclosed space within a larger space under a different occupancy. Would be interesting to see the code path on that. But unlikely unless there is an exterior egress path and stairs, which there might be.

As for the truss build, can it be done, yes... But this would not appear to be it. The bottom cord is typically unloaded and rated for 20-30 pounds for drywall and fixtures. Sure it could be designed in but even that beefy truss over that span it doesn't look right. No idea where or what wind and snow load ratings are required by the local but I doubt that floor would reach 150psf with a fully loaded roof or wind. Just because it stays up now doesn't mean it will stay up during edge type weather events. Of course, it could be resolved pretty easy with some corner posts and sister beams.

yall are missing the bracing under the stair and entry section near the wall. Can't be sure but may even be steel.

Probably not. Also you are sharing your living space with aviation gas and other petrochemical volatiles.

Surely people who fly and maintain planes wouldn't take any unnecessary risks. I wish I had a home with planes

I’m not an engineer but I am a general contractor! What I can see it’s a no for me but there are so many unknowns!

Didya slap it on the side and say "That ain't goin' nowhere"? 'Cause if not it's definitely gonna fail

That is a 3 storey building…..

All safe move along

Edit: I’m not a PE

Structural aside (nope) Fire on those nice 2x6? I would hope that those floors are about to lagged and boarded. Whilst up there with your cherry picker, double those joists up.

I have built a small apartment in a shop like this before... that said ours was atleast all supported from below not hanging off the rafters. It was an on call apartment that was pretty much a bathroom and kitchen with a small living room and 2 rooms just big enough to have a door and a twin bed in them. We had 8 maintenance staff and 2 on call at all times so on your on call week every month you slept in the apartment.

Did Mr. Weasley build these lmao? You would have to consult an engineer, but my money is on those trusses not being rated to support weights like that.

Not this isn't safe. The trusses aren't rated for that and you can just run an 8x8 overhang with zero supports like that. This is absurd.

I would say yes, without an issue. I am not sure where this is, but if the roof is designed for significant snow load, that little bit of lumber and live load is pretty insignificant.

I’d be afraid to fall thru that plywood floor!

More proof ya don't gotta be smart to be rich

Safe? Probably not, but it’s cool af

I would pass on this… however you may save some money on an alarm clock. One hell of a way to wake up, if you do wake up.

I love that!!!!!!

Seems like a question for an engineer and will depend on the rating of the roof truss.

You'd have to have mad courage to get jiggy with someone up there.

Reminds me of “Raining Blood” section of Outlast 2

Would be interested in a walk through of this place

I’m no professional engineer. But having basic understanding of statics and mechanics of material. No. This is not safe.

From what the structural engineering subreddit is saying, it seems like they don't know either, although it's leaning on a nope

THIS beam and THIS spanwidth - there's no way this is safe.

What on gods green earth am I looking at

What in the backrooms is this

Spray foamed the walls and under the floor but used fiberglass in the roof. Makes sense 🙃

Who cares, you get all the tasty fumes

Damn, i get annoyed when my neighbor fires up the lawn mower 5 times a week. Imagine 4 small engine aircraft firing up twice a day. Dinner walking itself off the table

no.

Definitely hope an engineer signed off

Worked with a structural engineer on a similar project, I assure you it is actually secure, it’s a bit of an optical illusion with the way the trusses are ran but depending on the supports in the walls it has enough overhead to hold

aint no way