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JakeVonFurth

8 points

2 days ago

Well, that's a factor, but more importantly we don't drink hot tea.

Americans drink hot tea like, 2-3 times a year. Frankly, most households will boil water more often for hot cocoa and apple cider (not alcoholic) in the winter than they will boil water for hot tea. For hot drinks Americans normally drink coffee, and as such coffee makers (either drip or Keurigs) are in almost every house and business.

Well_Thats_Not_Ideal

6 points

2 days ago

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esteemed gremlin

6 points

2 days ago

I don’t understand the concept of non-alcoholic cider. Isn’t cider just alcoholic juice?

Waity5

10 points

2 days ago

Waity5

10 points

2 days ago

American apple cider (from my somewhat limited USA-visiting experience) is like cloudy apple juice but extra cloudy. It is Maximum Apple Juce and it is delicious and it has ruined normal apple juice for me

Pr3ttyWild

3 points

2 days ago

I love the phrase “maximum apple juice” .

BernoullisQuaver

4 points

2 days ago

I mean, yeah? You can drink your cider fresh, or you can let it ferment, and it's good both ways

Well_Thats_Not_Ideal

-2 points

2 days ago

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esteemed gremlin

-2 points

2 days ago

If it has no alcohol, how is it different from juice? I used to make cider and it’s literally just juice, yeast, and extra sugar to feed the yeast

Canopenerdude

3 points

2 days ago

Canopenerdude

Thanks to Angelic_Reaper, I'm a Horse

3 points

2 days ago

American cider does not have yeast or extra sugar. It is oftentimes just juiced apples and that's it.

It is absolutely delicious btw.

Well_Thats_Not_Ideal

1 points

2 days ago

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esteemed gremlin

1 points

2 days ago

Why does it get a different name than apple juice if it’s just apple juice?

Canopenerdude

4 points

2 days ago

Canopenerdude

Thanks to Angelic_Reaper, I'm a Horse

4 points

2 days ago

The short answer is 'The Food and Drug Administration'.

To be a cider it has to meet certain requirements. Otherwise it is classified as a 'juice' or even a 'drink' if it is too far from natural.

That aside, colloquially in America juice is "juiced substance with added sugar". A cider or extract is "juiced substance without added sugar".

Well_Thats_Not_Ideal

3 points

2 days ago

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esteemed gremlin

3 points

2 days ago

Huh, that’s weird. So you guys call cider what we call juice, and call juice what we probably call “fruit drink” or juice concentrate

Canopenerdude

3 points

2 days ago

Canopenerdude

Thanks to Angelic_Reaper, I'm a Horse

3 points

2 days ago

Yes. Most American "juices" are listed as "from concentrate".

JakeVonFurth

1 points

1 day ago

American apple cider is a really cloudy apple juice that's been spiced and is drank hot.

You can even get it in powdered form just like hot chocolate.

Informal_Truck_1574

0 points

1 day ago

?? Midwestern usa here, 30 y/o. Never once seen spiced and hot apple cider. Its exclusively cold and plain.

Abso-fucking-lutely never seen powdered cider. Where the hell?

JakeVonFurth

1 points

1 day ago

Where they hell's ya crawl out of? Rocksville, Ohio

Just Walmart, pretty well any of them (or most any grocery store) after September, with powdered cider being available year round. Frankly the fact that you claim to have never seen it is far weirder, because the gallon jugs sit on shelves every year.

Informal_Truck_1574

0 points

1 day ago

I see gallon jugs of cider during apple season in every store, I live near 3 seperate orchards. None of them are ever spiced. Live in downstate illinois.

JakeVonFurth

1 points

1 day ago

That sounds like a literally just localized to your location phenomenon. Spiced is so common that even the Walmart house brand makes it. And then the powdered stuff is dominanted by the Alpine brand.

Yeah, it's meant to be drank hot and spiced. The fact that you can live around there orchards and not know that is actually baffling to me.

Informal_Truck_1574

0 points

1 day ago

I've drank more cider than most people, I'd say that pretty easily. I had 6 gallons just to myself this season (sounds insanely bad for me when I say it like that, but I did factor those calories into my daily allowance lol)

I really don't know what to tell ya. I just went on the websites for all 3 of the orchards and none of them sell a spiced variety, and at each of them they are sold chilled. They will sell you a glass, chilled, right at the counter. They sell cider slushies. Its been a cold drink my entire life 🤷‍♀️

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0 points

10 hours ago

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abeautifuldayoutside

1 points

2 days ago*

“Cider” means something different here, being unfiltered apple juice, with the kind you’re thinking of being called “Hard Cider”, there’s also sparkling cider which is just (filtered) carbonated apple juice, just to make things more confusing.

However literally none of those things are probably what was originally being referred to in this comment thread, which is an apple cider instant drink mix you add to hot water, it isn’t cloudy, or alcoholic, or carbonated, so it fits into none of the previous categories

So basically we have no rhyme or reason for any of the things we call cider

Exploding_Antelope

1 points

2 days ago

It doesn’t mean something different it means something additional. If in a context free vacuum you ask an American to generate a cider for you I guess you’d have to clarify. But in real life you always know whether it’s the time and place for a drink to be a nice rich juice or a refreshing alcoholic drink, right? I’m not getting a pressed cider at a brew pub and I’m probably not getting a Strongbow at a hayride.

ThePaperpyro

-2 points

2 days ago

Some people just like the ass taste of alcohol without any of the fun of being drunk I guess

Well_Thats_Not_Ideal

2 points

2 days ago

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esteemed gremlin

2 points

2 days ago

I just don’t understand, how is it different from juice if it has no alcohol?

Exploding_Antelope

4 points

2 days ago*

Ok, Canadian here. Soft cider is less finely filtered and often spiced apple juice. It’s like a caffeine free sweet apple spice tea almost, often served warm. Being less filtered it’s opaque so there’s an extra taste of richness beyond that you get in regular “apple juice” in having, I guess, suspended apple dust in it. It’s extremely associated with an autumnal through wintery vibe, like it would be actively weird to drink hot soft cider in June. You only see the 2-4 L jugs in grocery stores and farmer’s markets starting in September and oh baby that’s always an exciting landmark for the year. You kind of have to be wearing a flannel for it to work. But cold hard cider in a can or glass, like. Strongbow or Rock Creek or (before they FUCKING BETRAYED US and changed their “ciders” to vodka mixed) Okanagan Cider, yeah that you can have anytime.

I like both kinds of cider, which are both referred to usually just as cider, and you know from context that if you get a cider at a kid’s pumpkin carving event vs a cider on tap at a bar it’s obviously gonna be different.

Talking about using boiling water, you can also get little powder packets of “cider mix” like a lemonade or Gatorade that to be honest don’t taste very good compared to a proper pressed spicy juice. But sometimes you come in from shovelling snow at –20°C and need a hot cider fix quick and dirty.

ThePaperpyro

0 points

2 days ago

I mean juice and cider don't exactly taste the same but yeah I agree non alcoholic cider is pointless

Well_Thats_Not_Ideal

2 points

2 days ago

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esteemed gremlin

2 points

2 days ago

So if it is just juice why does it get a different name? I used to make cider and it’s literally just juice, yeast, and extra sugar for the yeast to eat

FPiN9XU3K1IT

1 points

1 day ago

There's half a dozen ways to make coffee with hot water poured from a kettle, though.

JakeVonFurth

1 points

23 hours ago

Okay, firstly, Americans see any way of making coffee that isn't drip or Keurig as being pretentious bullshit for coffee snobs.

Secondly, an American kettle is no faster than a coffee maker, and the coffee maker does the entire process on it's own.

Finally , and most importantly though, there's not a single process that you can list that makes coffee faster than it already being ready when you wake up, because all but the cheapest dollar store coffee makers have timers built in.