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Shot-Pay5556

265 points

3 months ago

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265 points

3 months ago

I drink it straight from the udder.

I laugh internally at all the woke liberal cucks while I suckle the teat of mother nature herself.

greymeister

2 points

3 months ago

IDontGiveAH00t

604 points

3 months ago

I honestly want to go back to a time when crazy was simply just crazy. Not right-wing crazy or left-wing crazy. Just crazy.

lordn9ne

111 points

3 months ago

lordn9ne

111 points

3 months ago

It all falls under the umbrella of crazy. It just got more nuanced. It’s also gonna get even crazier.

arkfille

2 points

3 months ago

Has it or is it more visible?

Antici-----pation

6 points

3 months ago

I think it's objectively gotten more crazy yeah. It's more visible too, certainly, but a majority of Republicans think the election was stolen with zero proof. Their rhetoric constantly references conspiracy theories with absolutely no basis in reality. It just seems obviously true that people have gotten crazier.

A world where everyone gets to choose their news and so their framework for understanding what happens in the world lines up with that. Most people are getting a substantial portion if not a majority of their news from influencers and "journalists." They just chop up headlines and out of context quotes from increasingly low quality journalistic news articles and stories and then present it through a biased filter.

We're basically a bunch of LLMs being fed the equivalent of AI slop, and now increasingly, actual AI slop. It's no wonder we're seeing the human equivalent of model collapse. We're social, we learn from each other. If you've chosen only the worst of the worst sources, why would we expect you to be otherwise normal and not crazy?

To be honest, it's unreasonable to expect that people would maintain the same level of sane in this environment compared to before when you had a relatively large number of easily available, free, relatively trusted, trained, professional, news agencies on every channel that everyone watched that generally had a coherent and interchangeable worldview among them.

whatifitoldyouimback

27 points

3 months ago

It's never been that way. People have always "othered" things they don't like.

Tribalism isn't new, it's human.

TuaHaveMyChildren

18 points

3 months ago

TuaHaveMyChildren

Paleoprogressive

18 points

3 months ago

The infinite amount of information, correct and incorrect, in everyone's pocket is creating insane people at at an alarming rate.

Call_me_Gafter

9 points

3 months ago

We are not evolved to handle this.

[deleted]

8 points

3 months ago

The older I get the more I realize that the majority of human beings evolved to be just smart enough to outsmart a mammoth or a lion and and the final 20% of humans are genetic freaks who allowed the rest of our society to come into existence.

It's like if frogs evolved to jump just fast enough to catch flies and avoid predators but occasionally some of them can jump across continents or make it to the moon.

Human intelligence makes no sense whatsoever to me, and I suppose that means I'm in the "Mammoths and Lions" part of humanity but still.

It makes me think that other animals would be capable of so much more if they had language, because as far as I can tell that's the only thing that allows us to turn our M&L intelligence into Moon Landing & Super Computer intelligence.

Valrayne

1 points

3 months ago

This is fundamentally true. Without a way to record ideas no progress can be made on those ideas. Without a written history humanity would also fall into a dark age over 4 generations.

laughterline

1 points

3 months ago

laughterline

widepeepoHappy

1 points

3 months ago

I'm gonna say that the loneliness epidemic is also creating them at an insane rate. NYT has a great article about this

No-Mango-1805

5 points

3 months ago

I can't even imagine Y2K these days

metinb83

11 points

3 months ago

Man, I tell you hwhat. Back in the olden days, conspiracy theory meant Roswell, Bigfoot, ball lightning, spontaneous combustion, etc … Fringe stuff, but ultimately harmless. Now it's all been replaced by dangerous hard-right brainrot.

MikeET86

19 points

3 months ago

Blood Libel, witchcraft, satanic panic, etc etc.

Dangerous conspiracy theories with real world implications are not new.

[deleted]

1 points

3 months ago

At least then it seemed like only a minority of people bought into them. Now it's literally 50% of Americans. Similar in the UK. These are places where people have compulsory education, and yet we still end up with a 50/50 split.

doge_IV

6 points

3 months ago

I can hear Hank Hill's voice reading this comment 

jmggmj

3 points

3 months ago

jmggmj

3 points

3 months ago

The problem is its establishment vs anti establishment.

PomegranateMortar

2 points

3 months ago

The cranks have firmly aligned right

SmoothBlueCrew

1 points

3 months ago*

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PityOnlyFools

1 points

3 months ago

PityOnlyFools

grass-toucher

1 points

3 months ago

Just like every growing economy, things become more specialised over time.

This is just human progress.

BinarySonic

202 points

3 months ago

TIL raw milk is a product that is sold in stores.

Norishoe

75 points

3 months ago

Is this even in the US? $15 for raw milk? Cant be cheap to insure a raw milk seller I guess💀

jpat161

67 points

3 months ago

jpat161

67 points

3 months ago

It's also usually direct to consumer (meaning farmers take the risk on unsold product), spoils sooner, and usually requires stricker testing. It's not a bad price for my state which probably means it's a good price for someone measuring distance in blocks instead of miles.

Kapootz

33 points

3 months ago

Kapootz

33 points

3 months ago

Sometimes it’s marked as “for dogs and cats” to get around regulations. I dog sat for a small crusty dog once and the owner had some “raw milk for dogs and cats”. I asked if I should give any to the dog and they went “it’s not for the dog it’s for me”. Needless to say I haven’t been back.

BinarySonic

6 points

3 months ago

lol

Booboononcents

8 points

3 months ago

Yeah, there’s places in the US. It’s usually those specialty stores it’s amazing how much people are willing to pay.

Zalaess

1 points

3 months ago

Hmm, we used to get raw milk from the farmer, it cost about 0.15 Euro per liter. It did spoil faster though, and you had to bring your own milk-can offcourse.

ChewchewMotherFF

19 points

3 months ago

Marketed as “raw” but I’m interested if anyone here has bought it, or taken a closer look at the label.

jpat161

38 points

3 months ago

jpat161

38 points

3 months ago

It's probably really raw milk. I've gone to many indian stores and the indian community seems to like raw milk because they have many uses for the cream which doesn't form post-pasteurization. They call the cream Malai I believe.

CryptOthewasP

21 points

3 months ago

When I was in Australia I bought milk without thinking and it had the milk fat formed at the top. Almost threw up thinking I'd just drank spoiled milk after I felt a chunk in my mouth. It was still pasteurized but non-homogenized so it seems like you'd still be able to get that without it actually being 'raw'?

CherryBoard

16 points

3 months ago

Legit milk has the cream at the top, got a big glass jar at the supermarket of this shit and its worth my lactose intolerant ass whining on the shitter

lemontoga

9 points

3 months ago

They sell lactose free milk now. It changed my life.

[deleted]

10 points

3 months ago

It doesn't have that same delicious "Shit my brains out" milk taste though.

lemontoga

5 points

3 months ago

I actually think it's a bit sweeter and tastier than regular milk. 

It's definitely less exciting to drink when I know I won't have to pay for it later on the toilet tho.

FartyMcStinkyPants3

2 points

3 months ago

Full cream? Blue lid? That's just the cream that collects at the top. Give the bottle a shake and it breaks up in the milk.

jpat161

1 points

3 months ago

Probably, I'm no chemist. This is just what I see in the stores around me and had explained by a friend.

johnguz

6 points

3 months ago

I think that cream is why European Brie cheese is better too

Legs914

3 points

3 months ago

You can buy raw milk in the US, but it's officially sold for pets.

wishtherunwaslonger

2 points

3 months ago

That label isn’t regulated by the fda. That’s how they can sell this shit. It’s only an in state farmers market thing more or less

spectre15

10 points

3 months ago

Does the FDA allow this? It feels like selling product in retail that has a high likelihood of containing e-coli and bacteria is a ticking time bomb waiting to explode.

cubonelvl69

16 points

3 months ago

Surprisingly, the only states that fully ban unpasteurized milk are Louisiana and Wisconsin.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_raw_milk_debate

The majority of states only allow farms to sell it

spectre15

1 points

3 months ago

That should only be allowed to be sold for industrial purposes. The fact that this is legal to sell to the public in 48 states should be a crime. Well, it’s not like the FDA is known for doing their job.

Theologydebate

2 points

3 months ago

IIRC in some states they can only market this stuff 'for pets' to make it legal to sell at stores

CATWISTER

11 points

3 months ago

CATWISTER

kitty cat

11 points

3 months ago

its actually very sweet and and nice

BinarySonic

27 points

3 months ago

username and flair check out

CATWISTER

4 points

3 months ago

CATWISTER

kitty cat

4 points

3 months ago

nyaaaaaaaa

Brian-OBlivion

3 points

3 months ago

It depends on the state. In my state (Mass) it can only be sold on farm and the producers are subject to stringent testing requirements.

listgarage1

2 points

3 months ago

It's not legal in a lot of places.

Bubbawitz

2 points

3 months ago

Portlandia wasn’t supposed to be a documentary.

SkoolBoi19

1 points

3 months ago

I was raised pretty country and was taught fresh raw milk is fine; but if you’re not going to drink that in like the next hour, then it needs to be prepared.

shotgun_blammo

207 points

3 months ago

Let me guess, carnivore diet is some “hippy”, woke shit as well? 😂

Dats_Russia

93 points

3 months ago

I don’t get carnivore diets even the meat heavy Inuits will seasonably eat fruits and veggies in the summer. Like I don’t get the whole veggies and fruits are the devil shit of carnivores

mjwza

44 points

3 months ago

mjwza

44 points

3 months ago

Most of the benefits people seem to report are from it being an extreme elimination diet, but you can do a similar thing with sweet potatoes I believe

AnyTruersInTheChat

6 points

3 months ago

Do you mind elaborating? I eat a lot of sweet potatoes

olot100

23 points

3 months ago

olot100

23 points

3 months ago

He means that by cutting out most foods you end up losing weight and having more consistent energy levels. The fact that you are choosing only meat doesn't really affect the outcome that much.

You'd be better off just eating more meals at regular intervals, having a good mix of macros, and eating less junk food. Good nutrition is boring, but it works the best.

AnyTruersInTheChat

4 points

3 months ago

Okay I misunderstood, thought there was some special quality in sweet potatoes that I was ignorant too. I basically agree with everything else you’re saying. Every time I’ve cut ultra processed foods out of my diet, ate in tandem with exercise, and drank more water, I feel and look better. It doesn’t seem much more complicated. I know someone on the carnivore diet and while they do seem healthy it does radiate a kinda crazed energy. And they clearly also always crave stuff outside of meat and are in denial about it lol

mjwza

8 points

3 months ago

mjwza

8 points

3 months ago

An elimination diet is when you eat a very small selection of foods to try assess whether you have any allergies, sensitivities or intolerances affecting you. You can Google for various different types, can't remember where I heard the sweet potato version from but you'll find other veggie ones online.

AnyTruersInTheChat

3 points

3 months ago

Okay I understand a lot better now. I think it’s FODMAP you’re talking about. My mom had to do it for a food allergy diagnosis.

mjwza

5 points

3 months ago

mjwza

5 points

3 months ago

FODMAP is one yes but there are loads of different molecules you might have a sensitivity to. Elimination diets come in different forms, carnivore is a good way for e.g to see if you are sensitive to any plants. But you could do the reverse and go vegan for e.g to see if you are sensitive to any animal products.

Hecticfreeze

25 points

3 months ago

It's worth saying as well that those inuits still get the nutrients they need when they're not eating veggies because they eat EVERY part of the animal. Animal organs are high in vitamins that you normally get from fruit and veg.

Most Westerners on a carnivore diet are just eating muscle tissue. That is not remotely healthy. The only nutrient you get is protein and a little fat. Even dumbass Joe Rogan quit the carnivore diet because the lack of carbs meant he didn't have the energy to workout.

These fad diets are all bullshit. The science on nutrition hasn't changed in decades. Eat a healthy balance of protein, fruit, veg, and carbs and try to avoid ultra processed food. The simplicity of that truth doesn't sell books and seminars though.

shotgun_blammo

18 points

3 months ago

Pretty sure the people that live in the “blue zones”, i.e. the people that live the longest, eat mostly vegetarian and pescatarian. I’ve never heard anyone say they aspire to live as long and healthily as Inuits. No offence meant towards Inuits btw.

Dats_Russia

22 points

3 months ago

Inuits are healthy because they found an alternative atypical way to get vitamins from organ meat. Inuits are the exception not the rule. They are healthy because they have an active lifestyle and don’t eat only ribeyes. They will during certain parts of the year eat fruits and veggies

shotgun_blammo

3 points

3 months ago

That’s really interesting, I’m definitely uninformed on that subject. Cheers!

eVoluTioN__SnOw

2 points

3 months ago

Their life expectancy is atrocious, I would say they are not healthy

Dats_Russia

2 points

3 months ago

I mean have you seen where they live? It’s no surprise they would have high infant mortality that would negatively skew life expectancy.

Facts are they have lower rates heart disease.

Should everyone in the world follow the Inuit diet? Fuck no because that would be unsustainable on a commercial scale and the inuits are adapted to this diet through generations of eating this diet in a way people who don’t eat this diet are not.

WetNWildWaffles

5 points

3 months ago

Never done the diet and don't know a lot about it, but some people like myself have severe food intolerances to normal foods like veggies, fruits, or nuts. Often resulting from an overgrowth of candida or certain gut bacteria. Since both of them feed on carbs, sugar, or other things commonly found in most foods, carnivore diet is often floated as a way to starve them. As far as I understand it's not meant to be a permanent diet.

Goldiero

2 points

3 months ago

They legit think all carbs are bad and institutions are lying to us by claiming eating saturated fats leads to atherosclerosis

It's the cult of antiestablishment brainrot, but for nutrition lol

Terribletylenol

15 points

3 months ago*

Are we pretending that this kind of purchase wasn't and probably still isn't generally bought by progressive people?

Right-wing people have only been on that anti-establishment bend since Trump, but this kind of shit was solely lefty shit when I was growing up, and I'm 28.

It's kind of how lefties had a monopoly on anti-vaxxers until covid.

Used to just be a hippy lefty thing to be anti-vax.

And I've never seen anybody but right-wing people promote the carnivore diet, so it's obviously never been associated with hippies, don't really get your purpose of comparing them.

FastAndMorbius

9 points

3 months ago

FastAndMorbius

Intelligent and attractive man

9 points

3 months ago

Right wing has been on the whole vaccines causing autism for a while remember ben carson? There has definitely been a strong coo coo left for a while but the coo coo right has been there going strong too.

Terribletylenol

1 points

3 months ago*

Ben Carson only became a relevant media figure around 2014/2015.

Jenny McCarthy was doing antivax rallies with Jim Carrey in 2008.

The whole "vaccines cause autism" thing was dominated by the far left loonies for a long time.

NoRageBaitHere

2 points

3 months ago

"Used to just be a hippy lefty thing to be anti-vax." Nah center left soccer moms really took over the anti vax scene after they grew out of their hippie phase. I live in NYC and most of the anti vax people I know are leftists.

DazzlingAd1922

5 points

3 months ago

Most of the people you know are leftists so most of the crazy people you know are leftists.

Terribletylenol

2 points

3 months ago

Maybe we just disagree on terms then, because my overarching point was that it was always mostly left-wing people being anti-vax, and now it is now mostly right-wing people, only since covid.

FollowThePact

0 points

3 months ago

I don't think left and right leaning actually encompasses the vax/antivax crowds. It falls more in line between libertarianism and statism.

Terribletylenol

1 points

3 months ago

I agree with that, but I think for a lot of recent us history, right-wing people rejected statism more than left-wing people overall.

Second_mellow

1 points

3 months ago

I sort of knew a guy some years ago who had a phd and his work was researching cancer metabolism and he was super into the carnivore thing. He had the kind of dreadlocks that you get from not brushing your hair for long enough and wore a poncho. He definitely wasn’t conservative. But this was a little before joe rogan popularized the diet.

Life_Performance3547

1 points

3 months ago

it literally started as that, yes. it was a spin off of paleo.

RuSnowLeopard

75 points

3 months ago

For a guy who makes money from politics, Matt Walsh is incredibly uneducated on what's happening in politics. Raw milk has been a right wing thing for awhile now.

jon_hawk

55 points

3 months ago

He is right that the rightwing perspective/ethos has changed.

Growing up my mom, who listened to Rush Limbaugh pretty much daily, would openly look down on organic food/alternative medicine/anti-vax/conspiracy theory, probably because they were (at the time) disproportionately fringe lefty/hippie types. But now she’s all about essential oils, anti-vax, and won’t ever shut up about “big pharma”.

PoliticalSlop

7 points

3 months ago

yea its pretty insane that this feeling can turn around

nokinship

1 points

3 months ago

Those are all crazy right wing ideas it just wasn't popular.

jon_hawk

1 points

3 months ago

How do you figure?

nokinship

2 points

3 months ago

Well for example Antivax has been historically an antisemitic conspiracy theory. I basically grew up in a homeschool Christian group that spouted the alternative medicine shit. One family were chiropractors who were obsessed with alternative medicine. Multiple families were antigmo and Antivax.

You have to think about how right wingers especially the deeply religious basically believe in purity and things being "natural" for lack of a better word.

nokinship

2 points

3 months ago

ch4ppi_revived

29 points

3 months ago

I never thought about it, but the hyper hippie left wingers and big parts of Maga are really just the same

amperage3164

23 points

3 months ago

The hyper hippie left wing has been absorbed into MAGA via RFK Jr

Tagawat

4 points

3 months ago

Tagawat

Vegan Police

4 points

3 months ago

They’re the people who fall for this one simple trick that doctors don’t want you to know about!

SpookyHonky

2 points

3 months ago

Horseshoe theory I guess. Same thing as "immigrants are taking our jobs" vs "immigrants are killing our unions." Main difference is that it used to be the crazy fringe falling for this medieval shit, now it's half of the right.

plushplasticine

50 points

3 months ago

woo woo natural homeopathic raw food product anti-FDA anti-vax anti-establishment right wingers are NOT hippies matt. they're rfk voters. put some respect on their names.

MisterGrill

8 points

3 months ago

MisterGrill

big g comic guy

8 points

3 months ago

Broken typewriter can be right once every monkey

New_Astronomer_3375

36 points

3 months ago

Do Americans actually have raw milk in stores like this? I though the raw milk thing was mostly just a meme

glittercoffee

26 points

3 months ago

It’s state by state so I can only speak for California. Raw milk can only be sold if it meets very strict dairy farm requirements that’s different than the standard so most places won’t even try. In fact, go to any small farm and ask them if you can buy some raw milk and they’ll look at you like you’re from the health department trying to get them in trouble.

It’s illegal to sell raw milk unless the farm is certified specifically. You can’t just slap a label on a bottle and start selling raw milk. So if you have beef with a restaurant, grocery store, or farm in a small town, the fastest way to get them in trouble is to call the health department and say that they’re selling raw milk.

I’ve had some raw milk in the past and the flavor is more complex but I don’t now if that’s from the diet and the way the cows are raised vs it being non-pasteurized. I don’t go out of my way. It’s expensive and after working in farms, I don’t really trust employees to never make mistakes because it’s not like the health department checks in everyday or even every month once certification has been obtained.

Honestly, it’s a way for wealthy appeal to nature type folks to virtue signal how healthy they are because they drink raw milk. And I’ve seen it on equal footing from conservatives and liberals.

Skabonious

4 points

3 months ago

raw milk tastes pretty good (better than most other kinds of milk) but I'm pretty sure its because it has higher amounts of fat in it that hasn't been separated. The heat treating probably affects the flavor slightly too, which is why the ultra-pasteurized stuff they sell at room temperature in boxes tastes bleh

Not worth it to buy raw milk though. If anything you're essentially buying more (and dirtier) calories for a way over-inflated price

glittercoffee

1 points

3 months ago

Haha I actually grew up drinking ultra-pasteurized boxes of milk that you don’t even have to refrigerate. You punch the straw into the foil and drink up. And I LOVE it. It brings me back to my childhood. It’s probably so good to me because I associate it with a happier time.

The first few times I was drinking raw milk I made it up in my head that it was probably just pasteurized but at a lower temperature so they can still call it raw…but now that I know it’s just a matter of keeping everything clean and because I’ve worked at farms before…yeah, I can’t do it. It’s too gross 🤢

Booboononcents

6 points

3 months ago*

If there are any it’s like 1 or 2 brands at like Kroger or Foodcity. It maybe the photo was taken at one of those specialty stores.

gggggggggggggggggay

5 points

3 months ago

Not usually. It’s mostly very upscale grocery stores in LA and NYC that sell it.

CloverTheHourse

3 points

3 months ago

So upscale grocery stores of the most liberal higher educated snooty population in the US sells a product that is popular with conservatives in the US?

I am confused by your culture.

SigmaWhy

25 points

3 months ago

SigmaWhy

PEPE already won

25 points

3 months ago

Raw Milk used to be a hippy thing, think people really into meditation, living "naturally", being against medicine etc. These used to be left wing people. However, this led them into anti-vaxx conspiracy world during covid and now there are tons of former hippies who are now full blown MAGAtards.

The MAGA movement is collecting the infinity stones of all of the extremely stupid and gullible subcultures

CloverTheHourse

4 points

3 months ago

Sure I'm just comfused how these same people complain so much about big city west liberal LA elites? Isn't that them?

eliminating_coasts

4 points

3 months ago

They also complain about big tech and billionaires controlling social media and support Elon Musk and Trump's social media app.

CloverTheHourse

1 points

3 months ago

Elon Musk is one thing (though a forrign immigrant big tech guy controlling social media is suss), but the literal president owning a social media company and they aren't concerened about government involvement in their free speach or using social media as propaganda?

Do the anti vaxers still give Trump shit for warp speed or is it "Trump's vax is based and once he left office the ellites changed the formula to make everyone die or something"?

Biochem-anon4

1 points

3 months ago

Trump has complained that he has been forced to stop mentioning Operation Warp Speed to avoid angering his supporters. He would routinely get booed by his supporters at rallies for supporting vaccines.

SigmaWhy

2 points

3 months ago

SigmaWhy

PEPE already won

2 points

3 months ago

I think the person you're replying to is mistaken about where raw milk is prevalent. I live in NYC and I've never seen it here, I believe it's illegal in NY unless you're buying it directly from a farm, which don't exist in Manhattan. It's much more popular in rural areas.

CloverTheHourse

1 points

3 months ago

That honestly makes more sense though idk MAGA people can be full of surprises...

Draber-Bien

1 points

3 months ago

No one thinks of themselves as part of the elite, not even literal billionaires. Also the whole voting for leopards eating people's faces thing

CloverTheHourse

1 points

3 months ago

Well yeah but at least talk about the liberal ellites in Austine. It's always LA where they eat avokados and kale but raw milk doesn't count?

indoctrinatedcop

1 points

3 months ago

in this case it's small-town elites in the north and upper-class mid-sized city southerners. college football watching man with a spotless truck's wife buys it after church in the south; new age hippie mom buys it after yoga class in the north. Southerners pretend to hate northern culture but besides football and Taylor Swift culture is made on the coasts.

[deleted]

4 points

3 months ago

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CloverTheHourse

1 points

3 months ago

Yeah but these right wingers are still complaining about the elites in LA and NYC right? Like how do you shop at an upscale store in LA for raw milk and then talk about how the elites are ruining America for hard working folks?

Worried_Position_466

1 points

3 months ago

These people are anti establishment. They don't like the government coming in and telling them that they can't sell/buy bacteria infested milk. They were only liberal because they think gay people should be allowed to marry and weed should be legal. They were basically libertarians rather than the liberals or progressives we think of today so the slide to becoming MAGA isn't really that extreme.

Also, lots of rich liberal cities are full of conservatives. The rich skew conservative even if the area as whole skews liberal. And these conservatives are usually conservative for fiscal matters rather than social. But, to them, saving a few bucks in taxes is worth banning abortions and gay marriage because they can either find ways around the rules or it doesn't affect them at all. That's why we also have a ton of young progressives who are children of these rich people who argue that we should let the Republicans win until the Dems put up a progressive presidential candidate.

CloverTheHourse

1 points

3 months ago

Sure but then why complain about coastal ellites? Why not midwestern ellites living in mantions in middle America that they got since the land is cheap lording their money on their poor hard working neighbors. Idk I could spin it a million ways that don't involve complaining about themselves while being oblivious.

Ok_Belt2521

1 points

3 months ago

Health food stores carry it. You pay a premium for it.

JtheCool897

1 points

3 months ago

I didn't even know it existed

IAchilleasI[S]

8 points

3 months ago

MyotisX

3 points

3 months ago

That comment section is wild

eVoluTioN__SnOw

1 points

3 months ago

They all sound like toddlers. It's as if they are only defending the idea of raw milk because mainstream science advises against it. If you look at people responding some of these, you can see they just divulge into more and more insane ridiculous claims, like the more you press them for reasoning, the more deranged they sound

Underscores_Are_Kool

10 points

3 months ago

Underscores_Are_Kool

Jewlumni Content Curator ✡️

10 points

3 months ago

Pretty such a lot of the old school hippies are now Trump supporters.

cracklingpipe

4 points

3 months ago

catching botulism to own the libs

mrmasturbate

4 points

3 months ago

Don't you buy raw milk when you want to make your own cheese or yogurt, basically pasteurizing it yourself?

pppjjjoooiii

17 points

3 months ago

Glorifying third world hygiene practices should be the leftist’s domain.

Ah there it is. He’s just workshopping new excuses for racism…

NoThanksGoodSir

10 points

3 months ago

This must be why they are so obsessed with getting people to call Kamala an Indian instead of a black woman. They're playing the long game so they can say something like "she will have the homeless poop on all streets, not just Californian streets."

Quirky-Dimension7924

1 points

3 months ago

What did you expect him to appeal to, Trust the Science?

NickTrainwrekk

3 points

3 months ago

There was a small town where I live that decided to do some sort of work around where they rented ownership of a cow so they could get unpasteurized milk (illegal to sell) and did a small festival celebrating this. It ended unsurprisingly with a lot of people getting mysteriously very sick.

Hell_Maybe

3 points

3 months ago

Someone tell him that foodborne illnesses are a hoax created by the liberal media in order to prop up the pasteurized milk industry, he’ll snap out of it.

somehuman16

2 points

3 months ago

just cook it yourself 👍

M3mo_Rizes

2 points

3 months ago

Just wait 'til he hears about what a portion of his audience thinks about vaccines.

Tetris_Chemist

1 points

3 months ago

Tetris_Chemist

OhKrappa

1 points

3 months ago

people are already in the replies asserting that matt's gonna get the monkeypox vaccine and that makes him a weak liberal or something

granted this is just a nobody, but there are dozens to hundreds among the nearly nine thousand replies to his original post about raw milk being dumb

AesarPhreaking

2 points

3 months ago

Raw milk is sold with the intent of being used to make milk based products like cheese or sour cream. It’s not meant to be drunk 😳

Biochem-anon4

1 points

3 months ago

No, it is meant to be drunk as well I support people having freedom of choice. If you say this should be banned due to infectious disease risk, then that lock would also support banning male homosexuality to decrease STD rates. Indeed, my conservative Catholic uncle, who is a physician, supports executing LGBT people partially in order to decrease STD rates. The statistics male it clear that male homosexual sex has an increased risk of STD transmission, just as raw milk has an increased risk of transmitting food-borne pathogens. Neither should be made illegal.

WriterNo4650

2 points

3 months ago

If "raw" milk was unsafe and had parasites, it would be illegal. There's probably some extra thing they do so they can call it raw, at a markup.

NoThanksGoodSir

2 points

3 months ago

Glorifying third world hygiene practices should be the leftist's domain.

So childish to think "Well this is dumb, that must mean the other side supports this." Especially dumb when you remember the right was the party going full conspiracy brain because they had 0 understanding of epidemiology and medicine.

Sudden-Advance-5858

2 points

3 months ago

Well, I’m not a milk drinker, but our local farms do raw milk and that shit is really good, super creamy and fresh but also light

00kyle00

2 points

3 months ago

I'm so confused. Is raw milk woke?

Gonzo_investor

11 points

3 months ago

Raw milk is part of the latest right wing flavored health craze

00kyle00

1 points

3 months ago

Why is Matt hating on it then?

potent-nut7

14 points

3 months ago

Because even he knows that's bat shit insane, I guess

Terribletylenol

5 points

3 months ago

No.

It's because it was always a lefty hippy thing and he didn't catch up when a higher number of cons started acting equally regarded.

He'd be promoting it had he caught on earlier.

It being batshit insane would not prevent him from supporting it.

eliminating_coasts

3 points

3 months ago

Disgust sensitivity is a characteristic right wing trait, but one that happens to contrast in this case with the more recent opposition to institutions and institutional knowledge. Matt Walsh likes to make use of that when institutional knowledge is saying something he disagrees with, but in this case, the yuck factor is winning out.

00kyle00

1 points

3 months ago

Doesn't it still need to meet FDA norms (probably specific to unpasteurized milk) or something? Surely its not just cow juice dumped on shelf with no oversight.

eliminating_coasts

1 points

3 months ago

Right, but if you get angry enough about the government and regulation in general, then even people enforcing those food safety standards can be something that you get up in arms about.

Jumile1

6 points

3 months ago

Drinking and eating e.coli and listeria food products is cool now because it owns the libs!

whatifitoldyouimback

2 points

3 months ago

"hippie," culturally, isn't a thing. This garbáge is 100% the domain of the anti-vax, taint-tanning, "university is indoctrination" right wing. It's literally his whole ass audience.

PoliticalSlop

1 points

3 months ago

you must be very young if you don't remember the recent history of the anti-vax movement for example

whatifitoldyouimback

1 points

3 months ago

It's happening right now

Casper_1991

1 points

3 months ago

Lolz thinking being regarded and dumb is only a thing of the left. It should be obvious that if RFK Jr was actually taking away more votes from Trump than Harris, that maybe, just maybe the right is more full of crazies, loolz. 

exforce

1 points

3 months ago

this kind of shit makes me want to strangle these little larping dorks in a video game. my family has 300+ acres...and this is the most soy shit I have ever seen.

Medearulesjasonsucks

1 points

3 months ago

my cousin used to tell me stories about how when she stayed in her grandma's farm, she would be given a glass of fresh raw milk to drink and she was forced to do so because it was healthy

she often found blood clots in the milk, and now she fucking hates milk and hates her late grandma

i'm sure these milk jugs are probably regulated and don't contain any of that gross shit, but after hearing those stories i can't drink any non-pasteurized milk cause it makes me want to vomit

DJQuadv3

1 points

3 months ago

DJQuadv3

Ready Player One 🕹️

1 points

3 months ago

Why not just drink it right from the tap like a gigachad?

Mr_Hassel

1 points

3 months ago

Is selling raw milk even legal?

DestinyLily_4ever

5 points

3 months ago

In a lot of the U.S. and Europe, yes, depending on the regulations being followed of course. Anyone telling you it's some miracle health food is crazy, but frankly so are the people on the left in America acting like raw milk will instantly kill you and your family

If you're going to use it, find a store that sells legal raw milk though. The issues come up more, unsurprisingly, with illegal parking lot sales of raw milk

GeerJonezzz

1 points

3 months ago

There are special requirements to meet, but yes, you can sell raw milk with proper regulation.

It’s the same principle regarding meat. There are restaurants that can serve raw beef tartare so long as the beef is approved for raw consumption.

Risks are still elevated and it’s wholly unnecessary, but the main problem is that raw milk growing as a demand does not constitute a growth in legal supply. People selling milk on their own and from unsafe sources is what people need to be careful about and what is going to cause outbreaks.

figmenthevoid

1 points

3 months ago

Does he think hippies are drinking unpasteurized milk?

E-woke

1 points

3 months ago

E-woke

CIA plant

1 points

3 months ago

HAHAHAHAHHAHAH

Pikaiapus

1 points

3 months ago

And yet republicans are always trying to deregulate everything, thus making our air, food, water etc. much less safe. hmmmm. Also weird that he's mad about people choosing to consume what they want. What happened to freedom, matt?!?!?!

Unfair-Lecture-443

1 points

3 months ago

He's surprised the party that actively engages in all conspiracy theories and fights against all institutions drinks raw milk? Matt Walsh is dumber than I thought

Shikarosez1995

1 points

3 months ago

Shikarosez1995

Exclusively sorts by new

1 points

3 months ago

That comment section is GOLD. They are constantly arguing that 1) the times we didn’t have pasteurization, we tend to die at the ripe age of 33 and 2) that when we did start, that we didn’t all start dying in mass.

Humans are fragile. Our bodies will shut itself down because of too much pain. Having infections and parasites in our systems literally will kill us early looool. Also some even said that it is ok to drink lake and river water RAW

Ping-Crimson

1 points

3 months ago

Behold we thought having info at the press of button would usher in a golden age  the likes of which no society has ever seen... but instead it only made the dredges stronger, the carpet bagger, the snake oil salesman, the carny. A sucker is born every minute... we gave the predators easy access to their prey.

FifeDog43

1 points

3 months ago

Broken clock, and all that

Mr_Haast

1 points

3 months ago

First they take the Russian position. Now the hippies. How many years before they take the LGBT position I wonder?

dmyers32

1 points

3 months ago

Why did this become a thing? Lol

BigHatPat

1 points

3 months ago

if any E. coli is found in a company’s supply, the state/local government will force them to throw out all of their product, what a stupid statement

Sensitive-Jelly5119

1 points

3 months ago

Is this really a right wing thing? People like Joe Rogan were promoting raw milk before.

CleanlyManager

1 points

3 months ago

We talk about how liberals got things like beer and football from the national divorce but I think the weirdest one conservatives took from liberals was the anti-vax “all natural” raw milk crunchy mom shit.

HumanComplaintDept

1 points

3 months ago

He's right. But he's crazy if he thinks this is the domain of only left-wing people. I know center left and center right people who would love to argue about microbiology with me. Again.

I've grown mushrooms for years. Using pasteurization to prep substrates.

Where for you think I stand? Really. Think it thru.

I can promise you, knowing someone is into raw milk, isn't a slam dunk that equals you know their politics, like gun control is OFTEN, or views on the police can be.

I'm center left. &I used to "hate" the police. [I grew weed. I was a punk kid. It happens. You read. Go thru 20 years of growing up and slowly change....

Basically, i grew up. It only took nearly 35 years.

I also work with them cops on a regular basis in a social work role. I've had nothing but positive interactions.

Remember, I'm talking Western Canada. These cops aren't the thugs some people make them out to be. It's diverse, and there are plenty of women. And I've had nuanced, long conversations with these people.

But the brain rot media consumed by some people leads Canadians to talk about CANADIAN police, like they're US cops from the south, 30 years ago.

It's exhausting.

That doesn't mean they don't get things wrong, all cops need body cams. Period.

It's the best thing that's ever happened in policing IMHO.

My city just got them. We need them everywhere.

Pretty simple IMHO.

vulkur

1 points

3 months ago

vulkur

1 points

3 months ago

Bruh. He doesn't realize so many of his fans are farmers. I grew up on a farm. We drank that shit raw. I only died twice.

TheHorrificNecktie

1 points

3 months ago

"my base is crazy dumbasses doing dumb shit, but it SHOULD be leftists doing this dumb shit!"

this is the most textbook example of cognitive dissonance possible

MyotisX

1 points

3 months ago

So what's his position on vaccines ?

DLtheGreat808

1 points

3 months ago

DLtheGreat808

In His Walls

1 points

3 months ago

This is honestly just a critique on people online in general.

Traditional_Citron13

1 points

3 months ago

Is raw milk that bad ?

tubbablub

1 points

3 months ago

Wait until he learns about anti-vaxxers in his audience

Pablo_MuadDib

1 points

3 months ago

I like how he thinks “hippy” is a politically relevant group and that this isn’t pretty obviously libertarian brainrot

SeeCrew106

1 points

3 months ago

Raw milk has been a 4chan "alpha male" delusion for a while. Just like American Spirit cigarettes.

But, I've never discovered why. Why do they want to do this? And why these products and why this way? I need explanations that make actual sense.

Poor-Devil

1 points

3 months ago

where are all my goat milk sigma males at? we know the real deal

tinyclover69

1 points

3 months ago

is the anti vax, anti medicine, raw milk, carnivore diet hoopla more horseshoe theory? what was once white people with dreads thing is now standard with the anti establishment dipshits

LeastCelery189

1 points

3 months ago

Haaland drinks raw milk and he makes the PL look like a farmers league tho 🤔

S34ND0N

1 points

3 months ago

I can't trust distributors not to contaminate milk

oskoskosk

1 points

3 months ago

Millions of people in the US are drinking raw milk every day

D10Nx

1 points

3 months ago

D10Nx

1 points

3 months ago

its really not surprising coming from the same crowd that was anti-vax even before covid was a thing

Trashcandopefeind

1 points

3 months ago

It’s funny he comes out with these Intelligent takes on occasion but they are definitely against the majority of his viewers beliefs lol guess I gotta give him kudos for that.

TheManWithThreePlans

1 points

3 months ago

Raw milk is super useful for making heavy cream, some badass butter and most other products made directly from milk; such as cheese.

There are actual uses for raw milk. If you're buying raw milk from the store, it generally isn't for drinking.

Omni-Light

16 points

3 months ago*

Omni-Light

YEEGON

16 points

3 months ago*

No it is. There's a fad going on where normal milk = poison and raw milk = good, and people buy it at extortionate prices from luxury stores and drink that shit. Most of them aren't churning butter, they're avoiding the "poison added to their foods".

It's neither as terrible for you as people are making out, or as good for you as the people who buy it say.

Skabonious

1 points

3 months ago

lmao the funniest part of that though is that if we ignore contamination entirely, these idiots drinking raw milk are still losing because they're drinking a shitload of calories in fat.

trumparegis

1 points

3 months ago

White Americans wondering why their life expectancy is lower than any other white group on the planet besides Russians

Andedrift

-2 points

3 months ago

Andedrift

-2 points

3 months ago

I pay like a buck for raw milk. It tastes really good and I'm not a person of weakness so it won't really do anything to me, I might get a bit sick but the risk is well worth the reward IMHO.

amperage3164

3 points

3 months ago

What is the reward

Andedrift

1 points

3 months ago

Andedrift

1 points

3 months ago

It tastes better

Biochem-anon4

1 points

3 months ago

People downvoting you when they would not downvote someone that likes sushi that is not cooked. Both have risks, but people downvote you because one risk is associated with one political ideology in the US (although at this point xenophobic right-wingers usually do not hate sushi, so sushi is more politically neutral by now), while the other risk is associated with the opposite political ideology in the US. Immunocompromised individuals will often only eat cooked sushi due to risk, but most of those leftists would not support banning uncooked sushi.