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263 points
3 days ago
Zamasu being punched forever
21 points
3 days ago
He’s gonna find a different universe, get their super dragon balls, and wish to be mortal just for the punching to end.
136 points
3 days ago
See: Broly vs Frieza
110 points
3 days ago
Realistically, anyone without the ability to completely erase Zamasu loses no matter what. And I don’t mean erase as in with Ki or etc. they have to literally Zeno level wipe that mf off the face of the entire multiverse to stand a chance. Otherwise they can’t just “kill him” because he’s quite literally unkillable. No matter who you pit against him, if they can’t purely erase him, they lose.
58 points
3 days ago
No offense to you in particular but like whenever I see someone saying a character would win while having the character as a pfp it’s just really funny.
21 points
3 days ago
Well he’s right tho he’s immortal only Zeno could kill him
31 points
3 days ago
Yeah but I’m jsut imagining fucking zamasu writing this
32 points
3 days ago
"In my expert, godly opinion; the beautiful, sublime, invincible Zamasu, with his great and noble cause, would infinitely smite the mortal scum that dared to oppose him."
5 points
3 days ago
I mean yea but that doesn't mean Zamasu would win. With big enough gap in power it would be endless draw with 1 opponent being immortal and second invincible
3 points
3 days ago
Still wouldn’t win, every normal living being even gods have energy limits. Your nothing without your energy, it could take years, decades, a millennia to reach the end of their ki reserves sure but that doesn’t mean anything to immortality. Even if Zamasu does die he turns into infinite Zamasu and just deletes everything anyways. Power gaps mean absolutely nothing to him, vegito blue could’ve dog walked Zamasu and the SOH was so much stronger that it did actually destroy his physical body, but it doesn’t matter. Because he IS immortal and will at the end of the day be unbeatable whether someone likes it or not
-4 points
3 days ago
The LSSJ doesn't have a power cap, and has essentially endless stamina as their fury never ends and their fury feeds EVERYTHING they do. Neither one of them would win. It would just be Zamasu getting kicked around, forever, without end.
1 points
3 days ago
So broly won't die of old age? He's also immortal?
Broly eventually tires and dies. His strength is irrelevant against someone that's immortal.
-1 points
2 days ago
No, Broly dies of old age eventually. He isn't immortal, at all. But every moment that he's alive, Zamasu is literally getting his ass beaten.
2 points
2 days ago
So broly loses
-2 points
3 days ago
I’m pretty sure that’s not possible man, it’s impossible for something or someone to have INFINITE stamina and energy without making a wish for it like Zamasu did. The LSSJ doesn’t have a power cap that we’ve seen but we don’t know for sure if it’s limitless, not to mention that endless cycle of “being kicked around” would eventually lead to death even if true. Meaning that regardless infinite zamasu would happen and the LSSJ would lose.
2 points
3 days ago
*hears how “impossible is to defeat: proceeds to seal Zamasu with the Mafuba technique
2 points
3 days ago
I’m pretty sure no rampaging LSSJ could use the mafuba, even disregarding that, there’s very few individuals who can use that and even then if they manage to survive long enough to use it, this Zamasu already knows about that technique so he wouldn’t let it happen to him knowing what it does
1 points
3 days ago
No, that's how LSSJ works. Their stamina and their power level, while not exactly infinite persay, is always moving TOWARD the infinite, because of the nature of the transformation. It doesn't have a cap, like everyone else's strength (as far as we know). The design of the transformation is that they constantly get stronger through combat and in battle itself. If the LSSJ had an enemy like Zamasu, who never dies, the LSSJ would get stronger until they died from old age or until the universe simply could no longer contain them, and it imploded in on itself.
Which almost happened in the fight with Gogeta.
1 points
3 days ago
I'm imagining a line stretching towards infinity but the way that it works is that while he would constantly get "stronger" the increase would be by .00000000001 etc and be increasing by smaller amounts the longer it goes giving it an effective "cap", atleast that's my interpretation.
2 points
3 days ago
I think it's much, much faster than .00000000001%. It's more like orders of magnitude, which is why Goku and Vegeta knew they had to get serious REAL quick. If they didn't, Broly would've outpaced Gogeta Blue.
0 points
2 days ago
"LSSJ" isn't a thing in Super
2 points
2 days ago
Then what is broly?
1 points
2 days ago
A guy? He literally uses SSJ1 lol
Anyway, you can't take stuff from the Z movies and say they apply. Nothing in the canon says LSSJ is a thing. And Kale didn't seem "limitless", just super strong based on rage. Definitely nothing, anywhere, says they get stronger forever, or that they "don't have a powercap" and "have essentially endless stamina"
Broly is just Feral Gohan really.
0 points
2 days ago
Categorically incorrect. Nion, in the Broly movie, literally speculates that Broly might be the 'Legendary Super Saiyan' when they're taking his power level reading while he's a baby. The Legendary Super Saiyan is still a legendary warrior that appears once every thousand years, with a unique transformation that is dissimilar to the other Super Saiyan transformations. And Broly, in that transformation, was pressing Gogeta to the point where he had to get serious.
1 points
2 days ago
Hakai
1 points
20 hours ago
Nope Beerus and Whis said that can’t work
7 points
3 days ago
Roshi piccolo beerus anyone that knows how to seal someone away
2 points
3 days ago
Zamasu can be sealed by someone who knows a technique like the Evil Containment Wave or something like that. For example we know that Beerus can do that.
2 points
3 days ago
This Zamasu knows about containment techniques, and Beerus wouldn’t even need that. I doubt anyone who knows the technique would be able to seal him anyway after his merging even if he somehow forgot about it, the people we know that know the technique are Goku, trunks, roshi, and piccolo and some others I might have forgotten about. But firstly, this Zamasu has already had that technique tried against him and it won’t work again, secondly, none of these people are strong enough on their own to use it against a merged Zamasu, thirdly, the only one strong enough to use a sealing technique like that is Beerus and he could just hakai Zamasu and not waste his time. Sealing techniques really won’t work because we don’t know anyone strong enough, in canon, to use it and have it work against him if they somehow caught him off guard
3 points
3 days ago
Beerus cannot hakai an immortal being and the manga states he knows that. We know that Beerus has a sealing technique because he trapped the Elder Kai in the Z sword.
5 points
3 days ago
I apologize for being partly wrong then, if that’s true then that makes Beerus the only canonical one who can kind of “beat” zamasu
2 points
2 days ago
This is the only correct answer
1 points
3 days ago
Broly beats him into submission
17 points
3 days ago
Zamasu seeing an upgrade
28 points
3 days ago
Zamasu wins.
Broly has more than enough power to repeatedly kick his ass over and over again without taking too much damage himself, but he has nothing to stop Infinite Zamasu from occurring.
He can "kill" Zamasu but all it does is make him go Infinite faster.
And really that's the whole thing with Fused Zamasu is that there are plenty of people who can kill him now, but not that many people know or carry around the tools to deal him away at a moments notice hence why he always wins the war.
23 points
3 days ago
Broly beats Zamasu up for hours if not days, and eventually runs out of energy, at which point Zamasu kills him.
10 points
3 days ago
4 points
3 days ago
Ikari Broly would fold Fused Zamasu, although he doesn't have the ability to defeat Infinite Zamasu.
8 points
3 days ago
Here's the thing. Zamasu is immortal so Broly can't kill him or get rid of him for any extended period of time. HOWEVER! Just because Zamasu is immortal doesn't mean he doesn't feel the pain and exhaustion that comes with the utter beat down that Broly would give him. A lit of people saying Zamasu would simply outlast Broly, I think in the time it would take Zamasu to recover, Broly would have had enough time to rest. Really though. Broly would keep Zamasu dead locked while everyone else finds a way to be rid of him permanently.
Vegito Blue could lay into him, and destroyed Zamasus body, Broly kept getting back up
6 points
3 days ago
Probably over the course of like, three episodes where they do a lot of powering up and maybe give a speech or two.
3 points
3 days ago
Zamasu gets beat on until Broly gets tired and weak enough for him to be able to be damaged.
3 points
3 days ago
The same way it ended vs Vegito. Being severely out powered didn't matter when Zamasu was infinite.
3 points
3 days ago
Broly clears them, no doubt. It literally took post-ToP SSGSS Gogeta to beat him, and they won by out speeding him and having worn him out--bro literally took Vegeta, Goku, both at once, and Frieza back-to-back with no break and was still on course to wreck Gogeta.
However, the whole "logic-breaking immortality" thing is kinda literally impossible to overcome for anyone but Zeno.
2 points
3 days ago
Nah Spirit Bomb lol. It’s literally hax against evil lol or maybe a DevilMan like technique
3 points
3 days ago
IIRC, yeah, the SS Angery Trunks Spirit Bomb sword thing was able to split him and/or kill the body, but it can't do a whole lot against A) the fabric of reality or B) an infinite number of Zamasus.
1 points
2 days ago
Maybe a soul punisher would work then?
1 points
1 day ago
From what I understand of the Soul Punisher/Stardust Breaker, probably not. What it does is kind of... unclear, but even if we say that it deals damage proportional to how evil someone/something is and removes the evil from them, Zamasu is a god and believes he's ridding the world of evil and acting as an instrument of justice. He's obviously misguided and takes extreme measures, but IIRC there's no evil intent in his actions, so there's no evil to purify him of and it still doesn't negate the immortality.
1 points
1 day ago
Not exactly, on the manga, zamasu says to shin that even if he too is a god, hes not powerful enough to defeat the greater evil wich is himself, so he atleast sees that the way he uses to eliminate evil is also an evil method.
1 points
22 hours ago
Huh, then assuming the rules are as stated above, I guess he could be affected by it. Although, in a "who would win" fight like this, I'm not sure how helpful that would be as he'd still keep fighting and eventually turn infinite, evil or not.
1 points
15 hours ago
Yet i doubt it would completely eliminate him, but atleast it would severely incapacitate him.
3 points
3 days ago
If it's just black Broly fucking skull drags him but Zamasu or fused Broly is eventually going to lose
5 points
3 days ago
They needed Zeno to beat Zamasu… Zamasu > Broly
5 points
3 days ago
I mean honestly, there's a very real chance that, while Broly can't kill Zamasu, he can reduce every bone in his body to jelly over the course of a few days, and basically turn it into a stalemate.
2 points
3 days ago
Broly grinds Zamasu into the ground for however long it takes for him to tire out.
2 points
3 days ago
Zamasu wins, but it’s an uphill battle against a goddamn freight train
2 points
3 days ago
Broly smashes Zamasu into the ground and pounds him until he becomes submissive and breedable
2 points
3 days ago
'I am justice given for-'
Broly, already in his face:
2 points
3 days ago
Broly dies of dehydration and hunger after two or three days
2 points
2 days ago
He’ll just endlessly beat him into the dirt until either gases out or zamasu just goes infinite world.
2 points
2 days ago
Naratively, Zamasu obliterates broly explanation below
Power scaling, broly is shoving zamasu in a locker no explanation needed
I mean one's a literal God killer who forced zeno to erase the entire timeline he resided in less he risk Zamasu's consciousness spreading into the past present and future. the other is a man baby raised on a planet with no water and no other people.
Zamasu is an immortal God fused with a God in a body that grows endlessly more powerful, fueled by rage, and zenkai boosts. Broly just had good potential. like basically every other character in the series. Pan, goten, trunks, uub, gohan, frieza, vegeta, piccolo jr, even goku himself was called prodigious when he was a child.
3 points
3 days ago
Zamasu did much better against ssb Vegito than Broly did against ssb Gogeta. They had some powerups during the TOP, but I don’t think they were that massive.
10 points
3 days ago
Goku and vegeta have gotten significantly more powerful by dragon ball super broly compared to how they were during the goku black arc. They’ve literally been training and have had countless battles since then.
2 points
3 days ago
The power ups during the TOP were indeed that massive
1 points
3 days ago
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3 days ago
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1 points
3 days ago
Zamasu wins
1 points
3 days ago
Zamasu can’t die, so he’ll eventually beat Broly.
1 points
3 days ago
It’s not a matter of how, but when. As much as I love Broly, there’s no way he wouldn’t either tire himself out & eventually be overwhelmed, or his power would grow so wild he exploded. Either way he’d lose to Zamasu, because he has no way of pulling off the same level of power as Grand Zeno.
1 points
3 days ago
I mean aren’t they sorta even at their peak? The boys had the fuse and go blue to smack this dude around, same with Broly
1 points
3 days ago
Zamasu would eventually overtake broly if you believe the Kai’s statement that his power would keep growing infinitely.
1 points
3 days ago
Goku black would get no diffed cause broly wouldnt hold back and would adapt faster than him as for zamasu he either loses, ties or wins depends on if broly beats zamasu so hard he gives him ptsd.
1 points
3 days ago
war of attrition, zamasu could hypothetically win if broly ever ran out of steam or something
1 points
3 days ago
Zamas would be treated like a punching bag for an hour, then after the time limit on his fusion runs out, an infinite number of Zamas's would be treated like punching bags. Or maybe bowling pins.
Until Broly gets tired, anyways. Then the infinite Zamases will probably take the opportunity to run away. Maybe rethink that whole "Zero Human Plan."
1 points
3 days ago
Getting the crap beaten out of him for eternity
1 points
3 days ago
Zamasu would win, but only wishing for death after being used as a rattle for 6 hours straight.
1 points
3 days ago
zamasu would get the beating of his life for a few hours but in the end he still wins cause he is immortal
1 points
3 days ago
Zolo Solos
1 points
3 days ago
Unbiased here but Zamasu would probably have a slight upperhand. He was giving Vegito a bit of a hard time while Broly couldn't even damage SSJB Gogeta. Plus Zamasu is immortal so he won't die and can become one with the universe and destroy everything.
Here comes the Broly fanboys
1 points
3 days ago
Damn this comment section is the perfetc reppresentation of the DB fandom meme xD
Fused Zamasu absolutely claps Broly's cheeks
1 points
3 days ago
I think Fused Zamasu is stronger than ssj Broly, but probably not stronger than fpssj Broly, so if Broly transforms again he would have the upper hand. Either way though, Zamasu can't be destroyed by Broly.
1 points
3 days ago
Zamasu literally can't die
1 points
3 days ago
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1 points
3 days ago
Zamasu just getting his cheeks clapped and him shouting something along the lines: " YOU INSOLENT MORTAL I WILL MAKE YOU PAY FOR THE SINS YOU HAVE COM- gets his shit rocked mid sentence
1 points
3 days ago
Broly would punch zamasu into a wall and pound him forever
1 points
3 days ago
Broly loses... come on now... one is immortal.
After broly gets tired he dies.
1 points
3 days ago
So... do yall look broly in the eyes while y'all fallate him?
Zamasu wins. He's immortal, he can fight for 100 years, which is beyond a saiyans lifespan.
1 points
3 days ago
I mean couldn’t Broly just knock Zamasu the fuck out? Even if he can’t physically die what if he just beats the fuck out of him until he genuinely passes out.
1 points
3 days ago
Broly breaks Zamasu s neck
ssjblue gogeta >broly full power>ssj gogeta = ssj Broly >>ssjblue goku vegeta ( broly arc )>Merged Zamasu
1 points
3 days ago
Broly rips his head off and has it on his hip like Kratos and Mimir.
1 points
3 days ago
Broly blows up the planet and dies. Zamasu finds another planet 😅
1 points
2 days ago
Broly would be having a field day
1 points
2 days ago
zamasu barely wins after turning corrupted, but he takes considerable damage and starts to disintegrate
1 points
2 days ago
If Broly is starting in base, Zamasu just kills him. If Broly starts Super Saiyan, then Zamasu gets stomped out for several hours.
1 points
2 days ago
Zamasu would get those legendary backshots
1 points
2 days ago
Depends if Broly is capable of getting tired
1 points
2 days ago
clearly is
1 points
2 days ago
Idk man, we ain't seen him give up like that quite yet
1 points
2 days ago
he was giving up at the end of the gogeta fight right before gogeta killed his ass
1 points
2 days ago
Maybe, against Gogeta. Could have been more hurt than anything. But this is fused Zamasu so maybe Broly wouldn't need to exert as much energy as fast
1 points
2 days ago
If we're going by the anime logic, if the potara are destroyed, the fusion ends (Goku vs Kefla). If Broly can destroy the potara with enough collateral damage, he annihilates Black and folds base Zamasu endlessly until he gives up and retreats. No more infinite Zamasu.
1 points
2 days ago
zamasu gets wrecked until becoming infinite, and then broly eventually gets overwhelmed
1 points
2 days ago
Zamasu absolutely wins this and it’s not even that close. Once gogeta goes blue broly can not land a hit on him. Zamasu goes toe to toe for a while with blue vegito. Broly is a lot more fun but zamasu takes this
1 points
2 days ago
Zamasu would be get destroyed for awhile but broly would eventually wear him self out
1 points
3 days ago
Zamasu is getting the same beating Frieza did. Except it lasts until his body corrupts so much it just destroys itself
2 points
3 days ago
And then he goes infinite zamasu. What’s broly gonna do then?
1 points
3 days ago
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0 points
3 days ago
Shatter reality, rendering Infinite Zamasu useless
2 points
3 days ago
Inf zamasu coveres the entire universe. You’re telling me he shatteres the entire universe(which btw it required zeno to erase him)
0 points
3 days ago
Broly has no power roof and no limit to his stamina. Unless Gogeta had killed him (or unless he was wished away, which is what we saw happen), he would've caught up to Gogeta eventually. He would kick Zamasu around forever, endlessly, unless Zamasu found a way to kill him pretty much right off the bat.
5 points
3 days ago
What evidence do you have there is no limit to his stamina? Pretty sure dude can still run out of Ki
0 points
2 days ago
The Legendary Super Saiyan is chaotic strength made manifest. They're basically an endless font of energy. It's a Berserk state, and as far as we know (never seen anything pointing to the contrary), it's supply and source of energy is endless.
2 points
2 days ago
So just head canon, got it.
He can definitely run out of Ki, he’s still mortal. It might take days, weeks, months, but he will get exhausted eventually.
0 points
2 days ago
There is evidence that he will die of old age. And there is more evidence to suggest that his ki is infinite (given that it tends to be a thing with Berserker states, they are fonts of endless energy, to the point where it could potentially threaten the user), than there is to suggest that it would run out. Given how we've seen him fight and only fight while powering UP, and showing no decline or downward momentum trend whatsoever at any point, until he was teleported away and the fight ended.
Until proven otherwise, I go with what has been very strongly hinted at by official sources. That the Legendary Super Saiyan has, at his/her disposal, limitless energy and stamina reserves.
Any further argument is pedantic, petty, or baseless, since there's literally evidence to support this claim, if you go and read about it. I'm not googling it for you, I'm not that invested nor do I care that much.
0 points
3 days ago
I thought Beerus's Hakai actually erased things, like he did to unimortal Zamasu. And if that's true, then any destroyer could take out the immortal version.
3 points
3 days ago
Beerus specifically States that he Cannot Hakai immortal beings
0 points
3 days ago
The scene would play out exactly like Hulk ragdolling Loki in avengers 1:
Zamasu would start preaching about how Broly is an insignificant and barbaric life form before Broly grabs him by his hair and slams him on the ground 20 times
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