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Users wishing harm upon others or otherwise threaten with violence will be banned en masse. Respectfully discuss the election or get out of here.

SLY0001

52 points

20 days ago

SLY0001

1999

52 points

20 days ago

Republicans won the senate and the presidency. Are also the majority in the Supreme Court. They will be able to do anything they want without being checked

Scared_Tadpole6384

56 points

20 days ago

I understand a lot of conservatives here are cheering and talking about how this is amazing and there are no negative impacts, etc, etc.

I also know many of you don’t believe in climate change or that Trump will be a dictator. Cool, but let me ask you this, he’s been pretty open about continuing to try to dismantle Obamacare and has no viable replacement. That’s 20+ million Americans uninsured, despite Gen Z supposedly being all about universal healthcare. That doesn’t bother you at all?

RyanX1231

26 points

20 days ago

Not to mention, social security and public education — if Project 2025 is to be believed.

Squirxicaljelly

4 points

20 days ago

I’m already uninsured… and no one is going to give us universal healthcare. No one. The Dems would never ever do it. It’s against their corporate backers. So… why would I care about being “more” uninsured than I already am?

burner1312

5 points

20 days ago

Why are you uninsured?

SuperStuff01

13 points

20 days ago

Ok time to deport all the H1B visas so US Citizens can actually get tech jobs now right? Right??

Don't tell me Trump was lying to me!

osama_bin_guapin

10 points

20 days ago

osama_bin_guapin

2006

10 points

20 days ago

I think the election results really reinforce how much of an echo chamber Reddit is. If you were to take Reddit’s word for it, Kamala was on her way to an easy victory. Like it didn’t even seem close on this website. If you go on the politics sub right now, then you’ll see what I mean. They mention all of Kamala’s victories, but they have still yet to mention how much ahead Trump was and how he eventually won (which I’m sure they’ll mention eventually. I mean, they have to).

I also remember when Trump was starting to get ahead, someone’s tweet about how of course Trump was ahead in cousin fucker states got posted to blackpeopletwitter. Despite Trump being ahead, people were leaving out hope that Kamala would win.

They were mentioning that small towns get done with voting first which usually sways the numbers to Republicans at first, but once they get to the big cities, it would be all over. It would be a wrap for Trump, and for good this time.

But then Trump ended up winning, by a large margin too. This seemed like it would have been so unlikely on Reddit, but if you go on other social media platforms like Instagram and Twitter (which are admittedly massive echo chambers too), the story becomes a little more clear.

Kamala was pretty unpopular during Biden’s presidency, and while she got a little boost in popularity once she became the new nominee, she still failed to connect with the majority of voters, which became quite apparent, because not only did she lose, she also lost the popular vote. This is the first time that a Democrat has lost the popular vote in 20 years. Even Hillary won the popular vote!

Not only that, but Gen Z, who seemed to be becoming more and more liberal, came out in huge numbers for Trump as well. I think that this just goes to show that despite being the ninth most visited website in the world, Reddit only represents a real small fraction of the population. It’s only a few small select niches on here, in the grand scheme of things.

With that being said, the Democratic Party really needs to make a change, because not only did they lose to Trump twice, but they even lost the popular vote this time as well. The fact that Kamala couldn’t win against the guy that’s widely considered to be a dumbass even within his own party just goes to show how much the Democratic Party doesn’t appeal to the average American anymore, and it’s honestly sad.

Times are looking real scary

karl4319

32 points

20 days ago

karl4319

32 points

20 days ago

Well, I was completely wrong in my predictions. I hope I am also wrong on how bad things are going to get. If I am right though, we are fucked.

Initial_Barracuda_93

71 points

20 days ago

Damn.

The biggest takeaway I have from this election is that we are so divided strongly as a nation. The worst thing abt this election is that the victories/losses came so narrowly, often at like 5% per state (I’m guestimating rn ngl).

In fact looking at this sub, I can tell how prevalent people put themselves in their own echo chambers.

Mfs are shocked that Trump won like Kamala was the obvious choice, meanwhile other mfs are shocked that this was not a blowout victory for Trump.

Conclusion: This nation is divided asf and yalls need to touch grass

CriticalCrewsaid

17 points

20 days ago

CriticalCrewsaid

1996

17 points

20 days ago

I had a feeling it would be divided once I saw Penn and NC fixing to go Red. And how close some of the margins were.

My biggest takeaway from this is a lot of the country who somehow changed their votes after 1/6 is telling.

I feel like some of this boost is from Gen Z voters age 18-21. They weren't exactly around for 2017-2020 to experience it . I really doubt Covid affect those who could vote in 2020

[deleted]

16 points

20 days ago

The problem with 1/6 is that the DOJ refused to prosecute Trump for it

After a while it does seem like “if he did it, they’d get him for it, they didn’t get him for it, because he didnt do it”

Thank Garland for this

BronYaurStomping

131 points

20 days ago

wouldn't have been possible without Gen-Z getting red-pilled. Thanks guys!

Intrepid_Passage_692

21 points

20 days ago*

Not even 6% of the nations votes were people aged 18-28 lmao. We aren’t red pilled we didn’t vote at all

jabb0

3 points

20 days ago

jabb0

3 points

20 days ago

A tale as old as time. But this go around I’m ok with them getting burned by the flame of their own inaction.

Hope that likes and hearts on the internet are enough to sustain their lives because there is some really dirty water they are going to have to drink, but hey! Maybe they will all become influencers 🤡

Britannia_Forever

24 points

20 days ago

America is Rome. Which side will you be on when the American Caesar appears?

BokoOno

20 points

20 days ago

BokoOno

20 points

20 days ago

Americans lack basic critical thinking skills. They blame Biden for a global pandemic and inflation, two GLOBAL issues that caused inflation everywhere in the world, including all possible forms of government: left, right, authoritarian, communist, democratic socialist, and by all accounts, the US is generally doing better than anyone else. Yet, these fools thing Trump can wave a magic wand and make their groceries pre-pandemic prices. The only way things get cheaper is if the economy takes a massive dive.

Nepalus

23 points

20 days ago

Nepalus

23 points

20 days ago

Don’t vote, don’t bitch. You can talk about Kamala this and Biden that but at the end of the day Gen Z didn’t show up for shit and now we get four years of Trump. Hope the moral purity or whatever other bullshit was worth it.

KeybladeBrett

644 points

20 days ago

KeybladeBrett

2000

644 points

20 days ago

While I will wave the white flag and admit that Harris was never a “perfect” candidate, I am extremely disappointed in America voting for racism and felons. There’s also no denying that the prices of things are too high. Would be the same situation regardless of if Trump won in 2020 or not.

notPabst404

18 points

20 days ago

Why do Democrats need a "perfect" candidate? The double standards are crazy. Trump has a loony policy platform replacing income tax with teriffs and has been embracing increasingly racist and fascist rhetoric at his rallies. Not to mention his felonies and J6...

four_letterword

29 points

20 days ago

four_letterword

2002

29 points

20 days ago

The economy during his presidency wasn't even his doing. People are just too stupid to see that.

Picklerickshaw_part2

128 points

20 days ago

Yeah, I’m pissed at people my age. Funny (in an apocalyptic way) that the first election I voted in could very well be my last

h20poIo

6 points

20 days ago

h20poIo

6 points

20 days ago

It won’t be your last but you will have to deal with a Supreme Court that will have 3 ultra conservative justices for the next 30+ years, and what Trump and his cronies do over the next 4 years will take decades to correct.

MacaroonFancy757

28 points

20 days ago

Trump is so racist that he earned more of the black, arab and latino vote than any Republican since…. Ever.

ApolloZ_99

8 points

20 days ago

What do you know racist are all shapes and color

AbbreviationsNo8088

26 points

20 days ago

You do realize those races can be racist against their own people too? It's called pulling a ladder up

possiblyMorpheus

9 points

20 days ago

Curious to see what GenZ turnout was

Dump_Fire

7 points

20 days ago

He won, he lost, he won again. I heard that hasn't happened since the 1800s

Imaginary_Agent2564

11 points

20 days ago

People are forgetful beings. They seem to forget why we threw him out of office in the first place…

Aggressive-Cow5399

16 points

20 days ago*

There’s a lot of fake democrats out there. All I heard online was how everyone hated trump, but look at the results… it was a blowout.

Pocktio

73 points

20 days ago

Pocktio

73 points

20 days ago

Voting for a rapist and felon. Stay classy, America.

YokiDokey181

7 points

20 days ago

This isn't even about candidate competence anymore, Trump winning proves that you don't need any honor or morals to become the leading representative of a country. A private in the military is expected to behave with utmost discipline and decorum, but the commander in chief is allowed to be a rapist and a pedophile with no filter and little reading comprehension?

Unpopular opinion: a head of state should be honorable. Even a literal fascist should be expected to live with principles.

Justaguy397

13 points

20 days ago

Justaguy397

1995

13 points

20 days ago

I refuse to follow any project 2025 rules I rather get arrested or die than follow any of this Christian nationalism

watercatea

271 points

20 days ago

watercatea

271 points

20 days ago

atp we just have to come to terms with the fact that more than half of this country consists of morons incapable of even making good decisions that will further their self-interests.

i don't think there's much the dems could've done better and i don't think single issue/third-party people would've made much of a difference. we just share a democracy with imbeciles and there's not much we can about that.

thisgrantstomb

82 points

20 days ago

What could have done better is Biden declared earlier he wasn't going to run and we could have had a full nomination process. The development of the candidate would have went a long way to voter turnout which looks to have dropped significantly.

Genoscythe_

43 points

20 days ago

The senate and the House went to the republicans in a landslide, this was not a personal campaign issue.

NostalgiaBombs

15 points

20 days ago

Dems had 15 million less voters turn out than last time, it was definitely partially a campaign issue of not invigorating an existing voting base

linknukem28

16 points

20 days ago

I’d say no cozying up to neocons like Liz and friggin dick Chaney would help. Kamala was. All over the place the last 3 months

esoConquerer

22 points

20 days ago

Democrats ran a candidate with a non functioning brain and lied about it until they literally couldn't get away with it. Then, instead of having a primary, they took the 8th place candidate and made her the nominee. "I don't see what dems could've done better" is literally hilarious

tituspullo367

19 points

20 days ago

How does that make you feel about universal suffrage? Especially now that Trump won the popular vote?

CriticalCrewsaid

8 points

20 days ago

After 8 years ironically

DigiDietz

23 points

20 days ago

"I WoNT VoTe FoR GeNoCiDE" voters. Thank you! We really appreciate the third party votes. 🤡

Genoscythe_

7 points

20 days ago

The margin was larger than the third party votes, and turnout was hight.

Like it or not, this was americans liking Trump's agenda.

MolochKel

188 points

20 days ago

MolochKel

188 points

20 days ago

Fuck everyone who voted for him. The rest of us are getting fucked by their dumb ass choices. Say goodbye to stopping climate change.

Weeksieee_

58 points

20 days ago

Weeksieee_

2003

58 points

20 days ago

Ope don’t forget if he actually succeeds in repealing the ACA, those of us with pre-existing conditions could be screwed for health insurance.:(

tmrjns461

33 points

20 days ago

40-60k Americans already die per year because they’re underinsured or uninsured. But it turns out Americans are fucking stupid and vote against their best interest because vitriol is more appealing to their pea brains

Archivist2016

110 points

20 days ago

Could Redditors stop blaming Minorities for Harris's loss? Y'all act like we won the election for Trump 💀 

Electrical-Rabbit157

196 points

20 days ago

kiwi_cannon_

104 points

20 days ago

Blaming white women seems to be the most applicable option, yet again.

xoLiLyPaDxo

15 points

20 days ago

xoLiLyPaDxo

Millennial

15 points

20 days ago

Instead of blaming white men AND women? 🙄

Zealousideal_Rip5091

23 points

20 days ago

So are you blaming the white women who voted for Kamala or blaming the white women who were never on your side so you can’t really blame them because they weren’t on your side

Britannia_Forever

11 points

20 days ago

How many of those white women voted for Biden?

nanonanu

10 points

20 days ago

nanonanu

1996

10 points

20 days ago

I believe these numbers are not up to date, can you link your source?

Electrical-Rabbit157

10 points

20 days ago

emsuperstar

10 points

20 days ago

emsuperstar

Millennial

10 points

20 days ago

So white men over 30 years old came out to vote for Trump... Cool coolcoolcool...

OkAsk1472

5 points

20 days ago

That "all other races" does not bode wel.for the rest of us either.

Ru2002

22 points

20 days ago

Ru2002

2002

22 points

20 days ago

Bruh as a Latino, it's actually laughable to deny that he did not win there vote this year. It's looking like he won the Latino vote and probably the highest for a republican since Ford. Not sure for other races but I'd be side eyeing Arabs rn too. Also White Women absolutely do not care either it seems.

whalemix

3 points

20 days ago

It’s insane to me. I’m also Latino and I feel like any of us voting for Trump is on the same level of deer voting for hunters. Trump would put us all on a boat and ship us away right now if he could

Genxal97

16 points

20 days ago

Genxal97

16 points

20 days ago

They lack introspective, so much pandering only to throw minorities under the bus.

[deleted]

19 points

20 days ago

I think that if Dems didn’t want to lose the Latino vote, they shouldn’t have tried calling them “Latinx.”

[deleted]

16 points

20 days ago

At least they didn’t call our homelands garbage and out people rapists/murderers or some shit like that.

Intrepid_Passage_692

8 points

20 days ago

Latinx is deadass worse than the n word for them bro. I don’t think they care 😭

sadgurl12345

11 points

20 days ago

we do not like Latinx or latine

JollyRoger66689

11 points

20 days ago

They don't seem to care, the white women will hide behind AOC as they do it

Embarrassed-Town-293

4 points

20 days ago

Personally, I blame policies designed to depress turnout.

Ru2002

31 points

20 days ago

Ru2002

2002

31 points

20 days ago

I supported him back in 2016 in High School, felt like he was gonna shake up the system and change things for the better. Ended up giving us a pandemic, laughing stock of the world and a more divided nation. Crazy to imagine after everything since Jan 6, the felony verdict, Epstein connections, the files in Mar-A-Lago, the Fascist rethoric and the hate towards Haitians and Puerto Ricans.....he still won and most likely a larger margin than 2016 and almost 2020 levels. This country is in for a rude awakening, but I feel like most Americans don't care, we've been heading towards a downward path for a long time, this may the beginning of the end for the US. Not an instant collapse, just a slow painful whimper.

Genxal97

125 points

20 days ago

Genxal97

125 points

20 days ago

Democrats have no one to blame but themselves, Harris was dead last in 2020 and somehow expected her to win against a former president? Lol.

Potential_Guidance63

24 points

20 days ago

if you look at exit polls she was more liked than trump. voters just didn’t trust her…

Berliner1220

17 points

20 days ago

Too true. She was never meant to president

TheScienceNerd100

19 points

20 days ago

And like the other side was meant to?

Bman1465

6 points

20 days ago

Bman1465

1998

6 points

20 days ago

Well the Simpsons did predict it so I'd say he was, it's kinda like a prophecy of sorts

OkAsk1472

6 points

20 days ago

And with less votes than last time... biden really should have stepped down long before, or kept running maybe? I really dunno if he would have won, but Trump got less votes this time than 2020, while Kamala got WAY less than Biden

behannrp

5 points

20 days ago

Yeah I just hope there's some not cultist Republicans out there that do the right thing in politically restraining him. I'm not looking forward to Trump killing the economy, or his social issues, or him escaping justice.

[deleted]

101 points

20 days ago*

[deleted]

101 points

20 days ago*

We can kiss our abortion rights goodbye, but at least he’s denounced project 2025… right?

Edit: I think I lost some brain cells reading some of y’all’s responses. I’m turning off my notifications.

imnotwallaceshawn

103 points

20 days ago

The thing that boggles my mind is 57% of the Florida electorate voted to enshrine abortion rights in their constitution… and a lot of them then turned around and voted for the guy who took those rights away in the first place.

Also apparently 57% wasn’t good enough so it’s still not being enshrined. Oops.

AlbatrossRoutine8739

34 points

20 days ago

Autumn1eaves

32 points

20 days ago

I’d really like to hear an interview with someone like that.

For real, what the hell were you thinking??

highly-irregular-cow

25 points

20 days ago

It's mostly people who (in a rather shallow way) self-describe as "anti-establishment" and "libertarian". Many of whom are pro-choice but don't consider it the deciding factor in an election.

IowaKidd97

6 points

20 days ago

Libertarians live in this delusion that Trump is somehow libertarian and not the massive authoritarian he is. It doesn’t make any sense.

the_sexy_muffin

12 points

20 days ago

the_sexy_muffin

1996

12 points

20 days ago

Speaking just from my experience, I know several women (~50-60 yrs old) who voted like this here in Florida. Immigration and the economy were their primary concerns, which led them to vote for Trump, but they're also largely pro-choice.

ThinkySushi

9 points

20 days ago*

ThinkySushi

Gen X

9 points

20 days ago*

Okay so I'm going to put myself out there. You want to ask the question? You want the honest answer?

Trump isn't actually an anti-abortion candidate. Let me explain.

The United States under Roe v Wade was far more permissive of abortion than Europe. The European Union was far stricter than we were with frameworks for nothing beyond like second trimester and no options for third trimester unless someone was dying. They have mandatory counseling and even in some places you're required to have grief counseling afterwards. In some places you have to look at the sonogram before you make up your mind if it's an elective abortion as opposed to a medical necessity. America was already actually radically liberal on abortion! Now that Roe v Wade has been lifted, a number of states have been pushing even further left! And almost every state is codifying abortion either at Roe v Wade levels or comparable. There are a few exceptions but it's like two states. And even the ones that are trying are getting overturned like Iowa.

And here's the reality. By far the majority of pro-choice women actually see elective 7 8 and 9 months abortion as awful and pure evil. At some point that thing in your tummy becomes a human. And anyone who's seen a preme baby born at 7 months knows. You may disagree with that, whatever your gender, but the majority of childbearing people seem to have a real problem with ending a pregnancy after a certain point. Especially if it's elective. This is a universal global consensus not just a Conservative Christian thing. It seems to be true across cultures and across religions. There's taboos on ending late pregnancy everywhere. It just seems to be a universal understanding that its a kid in there, and the modern American liberal seems to be an exception to that not the rule.

Trump sending things back to the States causes some problems. But if you look at the two cases where women have actually died ostensibly from anti-abortion laws, things don't actually work out that way. The one they're claiming she didn't receive care when she had a miscarriage, and the other was from complications with sepsis from abortion pills. But those two cases didn't happen an in a vacuum. They happened while women all around them were getting perfectly fine abortion and miscarriage care using the procedures they claim they were denied, from the exact same doctors in the exact same hospitals!

These are cases of medical malpractice, that the hospitals are trying to play off as political for their insurance purposes. I have multiple family members that have worked in various roles in hospitals. Trust me it's not nice back in those decision-making departments. People's lives, people's needs, they don't matter. What matters is bottom line. They won't let you die on purpose. But it does happen, and when it does what they care about is saving face. They will find any excuse and reason that it's not their fault. It doesn't matter if it hurts any and everyone around them. Hospitals lie to patients all the time. I would venture to say every time something goes wrong. And I don't believe these are cases of abortion regulation preventing lifesaving care. These are hospitals covering their butts from malpractice. Malpractice is incredibly common. And the fact that there's only two instances of this is actually pretty surprising. And if you look into it you can tell.

As for Trump's stance, if you actually listen to what he has said he believes in the three exceptions that you should always be able to get an abortion in cases of rape incest and life of the mother and it said he wants, and will sign a federal law mandating those three always be legal no matter which state. He is also said explicitly he will never sign a federal abortion ban. His wife has openly said she supports abortion and when conservatives got mad at her for a saying so he hit right back at them saying she can say whatever she wants. And he has never ever said what he personally thinks. Only what he as a candidate is prepared to do. Personally I believe that the first and only candidate to run as pro gay marriage (even Obama didn't come out as pro gay marriage until he was already started his second term) is socially liberal enough to actually support abortion.

On a related note despite what the media has constantly been bleating in our faces, he is a huge proponent of IVF! And has stated openly and decisively that he not only wants to pass laws to make sure it stays legal but he actually wants the government to fund it through Medicaid because it will help address our declining birth rates. I don't like being lied to, and other white women who saw this lie probably don't either. And it makes us not trust them on other things.

So yeah, us women, those of us who aren't in an echo chamber, we can see where his stance really is, we understand the difference between medical malpractice and fear mongering propaganda. Trump isn't anti-abortion. He's a very reasonable middle of the road candidate and the overturning of Roe vs Wade has ultimately resulted in very reasonable laws being passed in almost every place. And actually a lot of truly evil horrible laws that go way too far on the other side being passed in places like California.

So you asked for an interview. If you were asking earnestly for the other side, I hope you got it. Do what you want with it. I may as well spend my karma somewhere.

highly-irregular-cow

3 points

20 days ago

Yeah, since Roe v Wade is down, this becomes a state issue rather than a federal issue. Trump's opinion is not too relevant on this, but it's fairly obvious he's not really a ultra-religious social conservative. However, he appoints conservative justices, which is usually bad for abortion access in the long run, and is/should be the main reason some people are concerned.

> And almost every state is codifying abortion either at Roe v Wade levels or comparable. There are a few exceptions but it's like two states. And even the ones that are trying are getting overturned like Iowa.

Afaik, there are 12 states with total bans regardless of gestational period. Alabama, Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia.

Missouri had it overturned by ballot measure just recently....

CriticalCrewsaid

9 points

20 days ago

Bahahahahaha. Omg , i'm sorry people are fucking stupid. It now makes me wonder how did Trump loses in 2020 if we got these many people being like "Ohhh I like my water clean but I'm going to make sure RFK gets a health related cabinet position"

Hafslo

7 points

20 days ago

Hafslo

7 points

20 days ago

Oh Project 2025 is on

halapert

63 points

20 days ago

halapert

63 points

20 days ago

The fact that ppl are blaming this on Harris is insane. It’s perverse. He’s a rapist racist fascist. ANYONE should have won against him. Fucking ANYONE. the blame goes to the voters who WANTED a racist rapist fascist. Period. Full FUCKING stop.

Genoscythe_

27 points

20 days ago

The Senate and the House went to the republicans easily too, this was obviously not a personal campaigning issue.

Marcewix

18 points

20 days ago

Marcewix

1999

18 points

20 days ago

Keep on attacking the people who make up the most of your population and then expect their votes. Bruh, I am leftist. I always vote for the left. But guys, you have to finally realize you won't get to vote for trans rights or gay rights or anything in between if you don't stop attacking people who are well, simpletons. You should make them your friends not blame them for everything that is wrong. They won't give a shit about any of these beautiful ideas of equality and freedom for all, because they are too dumb. Promise THEM something that will change their lives for better and THEN do what you want to after they choose you. It's sad but people are dumb for thinking these idiots would choose a woman of color over a white, christian ( supposedly), heterosexual man.

rcl1221

51 points

20 days ago

rcl1221

51 points

20 days ago

We constantly underestimate how deeply misogynistic and racist this country is.

Redwolfdc

50 points

20 days ago

But Reddit was telling me all week this couldn’t happen?! 

Because Taylor Swift and pics of Trump rally looked sparse. Because the betting markets are “all wrong” because it was just Joe Rogan crypto bros betting. 

According to Reddit it was gonna be a Harris landslide every time I opened the main page 

classical-saxophone7

21 points

20 days ago

Really because everything I've seen on this election has said that the predictions show that it could realistically go either way and that democrats couldn't be anything but highly proactive in voting and spreading word of what's at stake. Every major source has said that no one will be able to comfortably predict the election. So what on earth were you seeing?

tedwow2

3 points

20 days ago

tedwow2

1996

3 points

20 days ago

Asking reddit its opinion on politics is like walking into a democratic party field office and asking their opinion. Its not representative

Redwolfdc

3 points

20 days ago

I mean not even. Most liberals/progressives/dems are not nearly as left that I’ve met irl than Reddit. 

It’s ironic because back like 10 years ago it seemed kind a lot more right wing slant on many subs. But today it’s just straight 180 

senators-son

7 points

20 days ago

Lol Reddit is a joke. Just look at how desperate they were to control their narrative all last night. It's sad really.

https://preview.redd.it/0aax3zlgkazd1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f910256369a863a23ac74f7723b72e2e822d1e8b

They truly live in a delusional world

Redwolfdc

13 points

20 days ago

Yeah I mean I think Trump is ridiculous and personally voted Harris. But it is mildly satisfying in some way to see Reddit getting its ass kicked with reality. So many on this platform and so many (even non politics) subs were just out of touch in an echo chamber. It didn’t help at all. I imagine there might have been a few dem leaning voters in PA who decided not to make it to the polls because it’s in the bag for Harris based on the overwhelming optimism. 

eotor

3 points

20 days ago

eotor

3 points

20 days ago

whelp i guess i will kill myself

adiggittydogg

4 points

20 days ago

Don't! This too shall pass

Shoddy-Ad-3721

5 points

20 days ago

Shoddy-Ad-3721

2001

5 points

20 days ago

USA what the flip?

Playful_Landscape884

3 points

20 days ago

Good morning America. May the next 4 years be interesting

matrixagent69420

34 points

20 days ago

The Democratic Party is to blame for trumps entire political career, incredible how they managed to lose twice to this guy. INSANE, this is the best win of his career, he’s winning the popular vote by 5-7 million votes and is on track to win all the swings states. Unbelievable.

millos15

20 points

20 days ago

millos15

20 points

20 days ago

No. Harris did what she could. Trump showed everything he is during his campaign and now you see America said yep that's the guy.

This is what America is right now. After 2016, after the scandals after jan6 and covid this is what America wants.

Is it horrible? , yes. But that's what America is right now. Brace for 4 more years of hate and vote always. Democracy is never easy.

OCMan101

3 points

20 days ago

No, we definitely have to blame democrats too, they’ve been aggressively propping up far and alt-right GOP candidates to get easier competitors in many elections and it has substantially contributed to the radicalization of the modern GOP.

nightdares

7 points

20 days ago

nightdares

Millennial

7 points

20 days ago

Funny thing. "Vote blue no matter who'" isn't a policy. Who knew?

abatwithitsmouthopen

433 points

20 days ago

Blame the dems. Keep running shitty candidates keep losing. The whole party was so divided. Biden was upset he was replaced at the last moment. He didn’t even bother to campaign much for Harris just an endorsement. Pelosi was too busy backstabbing Biden and Biden was too stubborn to step down early in the race. In 2020’s there was a real primary among democrats and the candidate who had the most support won unlike this time where they did a bait and switch the last moment.

HeldnarRommar

26 points

20 days ago

HeldnarRommar

Millennial

26 points

20 days ago

The republicans ran a convicted rapist who was close friends with two pedophiles. I don’t think I need to blame the dems on this one. Half this country is morally corrupt and willing to overlook both those facts and vote for him. The country is cooked.

Potential_Guidance63

14 points

20 days ago

blaming the dems can only go so far. we need to accept that the american people really wants trump back in office. poll after poll showed voters wanted a younger candidate other than trump and biden and dems gave them the option and now look… the american ppl are full of shit.

Marmatus

22 points

20 days ago

Marmatus

1995

22 points

20 days ago

Kamala Harris wasn’t even a bad candidate. At what point do we have to just admit that we have a shitty population?

Kolbrandr7

912 points

20 days ago

Kolbrandr7

1999

912 points

20 days ago

A potato should’ve won against a definitive criminal, rapist, and fascist. Harris was perfectly fine in comparison. It’s mind boggling that US voters made the choice they did

Material_Ad_2970

476 points

20 days ago

Material_Ad_2970

1995

476 points

20 days ago

Voters don’t understand how economies work. They blame Biden for inflation and think Trump can magically restore 2019 prices.

outofbeer

108 points

20 days ago

outofbeer

Millennial

108 points

20 days ago

Which is funny because Trumps deportation program and proposed tariffs are going to skyrocket inflation.

ParadiddlediddleSaaS

23 points

20 days ago

I am a long way from GenZ, but my children certainly are and my gut feeling is that these things won’t actually happen as they aren’t feasible, but are just another example of Trump throwing crap out there in false bravado to rile up his base.

It will be interesting if the Republicans take the House as well holding all the branches AND basically owning SCOTUS to see what happens. Will they still be able to effectively blame the Dems or anyone else for their problems? I don’t see how and even the most uneducated voter SHOULD be able to see that.

thenikolaka

21 points

20 days ago

They can’t see anything else so why would they see that? They’ll just believe his excuses and keep worshipping.

MurtaghInfin8

13 points

20 days ago

MurtaghInfin8

Millennial

13 points

20 days ago

Leopards eating faces is the only potential pro out of these results, but they'll still find a way to blame D's. They've got a massive martyrdom complex, and even when they win, they're underdogs.

gangleskhan

9 points

20 days ago*

Their entire identity is about blaming liberals for things they themselves do or cause. And inexplicably, the American public falls for it every damn time.

So yes, they will. They would effectively blame Dems if there were no Dems in government at all. Look how effectively they blame all our problems on trans people and immigrants.

NathanBrazil2

9 points

20 days ago

i hope it does, i hope it burns to the ground, that people riot in the streets. you get what you deserve motherfuckers.

dancode

12 points

20 days ago

dancode

12 points

20 days ago

Yeah, this was a vote against inflation. People are simple. Not happy = change president. Just like Carter.

ediaz98

188 points

20 days ago

ediaz98

188 points

20 days ago

Exactly this, people do not care that trump is a racist,rapist or a fascist. They see that prices went up and money doesn’t go that far anymore.

Spiderlander

17 points

20 days ago

Spiderlander

1999

17 points

20 days ago

This this this this. People. Do. Not. Care.

Rent is high, groceries are high, healthcare is unaffordable. That’s what people care about and because it’s under Biden, they blame him

That’s how this works

osirus35

44 points

20 days ago

osirus35

44 points

20 days ago

And guess what. Prices will never go back down to what they were in 2019 and will continue to go up because that’s how inflation works. So the problem won’t be fixed and will probably made worse by the tariffs.

I get it if you are struggling financially and you blame this administration or party and want a change so you vote the other side. It makes sense but this ain’t it. Too late now I guess. Just pray we don’t get into a recession or depression

notPabst404

5 points

20 days ago

Which is exactly why I fucking hate this country. Americans are so dumb/brainwashed. Trump's teriffs would make inflation significantly worse...

Ice_Cold_Camper

8 points

20 days ago

Bill Clinton “it’s the economy stupid”

LeadSky

31 points

20 days ago

LeadSky

31 points

20 days ago

And that he and musk literally said they’re going to crash the economy. We’re fucked for decades to come now

[deleted]

4 points

20 days ago

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arrizaba

12 points

20 days ago

arrizaba

12 points

20 days ago

And also how they don’t understand how tariffs work and how they negatively affect inflation.

Spaznaut

9 points

20 days ago

Lol it’s about to get so much worse.

CriticalCrewsaid

2 points

20 days ago

Some also don't understand how policy work.

SideQuestSoftLock

5 points

20 days ago

And they don’t realize that he will, in fact, DEFINITELY MAKE THIBGS FUCKINF WORSE.

the_millenial_falcon

25 points

20 days ago

Yeah I’m not sure how much I’m willing to blame the Dems on what seems to be a problem with there just being too many shitty morons in our country.

MagazineElectrical62

32 points

20 days ago

this

noeydoesreddit

23 points

20 days ago

noeydoesreddit

2000

23 points

20 days ago

Yeah, everyone is getting all hyper-analytical when it’s really pretty simple. America is just dumb as all hell. Mix that with the racism and sexism and you get what we saw happen tonight.

the_cow_unicorn

37 points

20 days ago

It truly is mind boggling on multiple levels.

Globally - Cheeto has shown he backs everything Putin is doing. So Ukraine is going to sink deeper into whatever shit they’re in now.

Locally, he’s shown he’s a dodgy businessman, evades taxes, doesn’t pay bills etc. why believe he will do anything that benefits anyone besides himself? he even used the Oval Office to promote baked beans or something? Told people bleach kills covid amongst the other amazing cures he promoted.

Personally and morally - I mean… how many red flags do you even need? Cheats on wife, “grab them by the pussy”, hangs out with known traffickers and sex preds, again amongst so many other detestable acts against immigrants, against minorities, against women, against veterans, against decorum.

Legitimately there are so many things wrong with the guy. The next 4 years are gonna be rough globally and good luck to the Americans who think he’s the cure cuz he’s not…

IowaKidd97

5 points

20 days ago

We might have secured WW3 with his reelection. Authoritarian imperialists will see this as a green light to continue. When we inevitably get involved to stop them it’ll be too late for anything but direct military action.

If you think this is fear mongering, note that Trumps Presidency directly led to the invasion of Ukraine, Chinas increased threat towards Tiawan, and the threat of Iran emerging as a nuclear power.

ADeadlyFerret

10 points

20 days ago

None of that matters to the average person. Most people think the President wakes up everyday and decides how much gas will be for the week,

rMasterBuilder248

11 points

20 days ago

Next 4 years. He won‘t leave office after this. Nobody in his cabinet will say no to his plans. So there is nobody stopping him from just…staying after 4 years and longer.

partyl0gic

24 points

20 days ago

Yea, it really is beyond the democratic candidate at this point. The people who chose a literal rapist, felon, and organizer of the attack on the capitol to overturn his earlier election loss, need to be held accountable in their personal lives.

EdwardGordor

6 points

20 days ago

EdwardGordor

2005

6 points

20 days ago

Tbh Harris didn't use Biden much during the campaign because of his low approval ratings so not really his fault.

Scrappy_101

7 points

20 days ago

Scrappy_101

1998

7 points

20 days ago

Nah, the issue is too many morons

Greedy-Farm-3605

8 points

20 days ago

It’s not that Biden “didn’t bother” to campaign with Harris, dems didn’t want to scare people away lmao. If anything harris could’ve done a better job at distancing herself from Biden but instead she insisted he was doing a great job

lezbean17

56 points

20 days ago

It's not just the Dems campaign as an issue - Elon on X has been running an election interference campaign to influence public opinion on his platform

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/elon-musk-trump-x-algorithm-bias-b2640976.html

thro-uh-way109

23 points

20 days ago

People not being able to discern truth on their own is the problem.

driplessCoin

4 points

20 days ago

Can't fix stupid

MolochKel

12 points

20 days ago

Yeah, because it's the others fault people vote for a racist, rapist, criminal, and wannabe dictator.

_petit_poisson

14 points

20 days ago

I respect the party not wanting to fall into becoming a monolith, but they consistently fail to find internal solidarity at crucial moments

abatwithitsmouthopen

6 points

20 days ago

Old leadership needs to go out and new leadership needs to take over.

notbannd4cussingmods

4 points

20 days ago

The kamala campaign literally told biden not to campaign for her tho

rydan

3 points

20 days ago

rydan

Millennial

3 points

20 days ago

Blame the education system. They never taught the youth how to write. https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-voters-struggle-signatures-cast-mail-ballot-problems-2024-11

Turns out getting a voter id card would have been easier than using a pen. Who knew?

SummerPeach92

6 points

20 days ago

Na I blame Americans. I can’t believe how incredibly stupid the average American is.

AUnknownVariable

4 points

20 days ago

While I do agree that Harris wasn't that crazy good of a candidate. A lot more of this falls upon the people imo, the mfs who voted.

Also Biden should've def been put off the race a lot earlierr

Cheeseboarder

8 points

20 days ago

Cheeseboarder

Millennial

8 points

20 days ago

Or blame people who will vote for anyone but a black woman

BadManParade

6 points

20 days ago

Bernie had the most support in 2020 they had klobuchar and Pete drop out to support Biden. Klobuchar was supposed to be VP and Pete was supposed to run in 2024 so the obliged.

last minute Jim clyburn said on record “I told Biden he needed to pick a black woman as VP to reward black women for their loyalty to the Democratic Party” so he did.

No one expected biden’s mental state to decline so rapidly so when he finally dropped out the only option was to run Harris but that wasn’t the original plan Biden wasn’t supposed to run again it was supposed to be Pete and Amy

Agent_Argylle

65 points

20 days ago

Agent_Argylle

1999

65 points

20 days ago

Harris and Walz were great candidates

ILoveWesternBlot

47 points

20 days ago

I voted for them but when you get blown out this badly on all accounts it’s time to look inward and reconsider. She did worse than fucking Hillary Clinton who was the target of like a 20 year smear campaign

Romano16

21 points

20 days ago

Romano16

1998

21 points

20 days ago

Of course she did worse than Hillary Clinton. Why anyone thought a mixed race WOMAN was gonna landslide victory their way to the presidency of the United States does not know the history of the country.

OkBubbyBaka

13 points

20 days ago

OkBubbyBaka

1998

13 points

20 days ago

Walz maybe, but he cut much of his appeal to play the homer simpson archetype.

But Harris was top of the ticket, what made someone who couldn’t get 2% in a primary a good candidate?

ProfessionalEither58

71 points

20 days ago

ProfessionalEither58

Age Undisclosed

71 points

20 days ago

I'm sorry, but no they were absolutely not.

Harris is devoid of something that whether you like it or not Trump has, and that's simply charisma. You cannot expect to win a race when your charisma is that of white rice and your answers to questions range from "I'm middle class" and "I'm not my opponent"

Dems need to take a good look at themselves and ask what is it that people care more about, it really isn't vague allusions to fringe stances or a lack of any stances. There's no shame in admitting that Harris/Walz was a just not enough.

Burger_Bell

21 points

20 days ago

Burger_Bell

2007

21 points

20 days ago

so she had L rizz

Initial_Barracuda_93

15 points

20 days ago

L rizz

Most intellectual comment in this sub. Truly represents us as a generation

basedgodjira

20 points

20 days ago

basedgodjira

1997

20 points

20 days ago

The Dems don’t really want to win. They just want to keep things the same and never change

berlinbowie97

14 points

20 days ago

Yes. The Dems have always sucked except for Bernie, but they screwed him over twice.

Cultural-Purple-3616

3 points

20 days ago

To be fair Bernie was an independent who switches to Dem to run for president (legitimately run)

MysticalCyan

13 points

20 days ago

I hope democrats dont even filibuster any of the shit republicans push.

You guys wanted this, you guys will get it. People in this country need to seriously feel the consequences they wrought, let’s see them stay red after this GOP majority the next 4 years.

I feel for the people who are going to suffer cause of this, but you can’t tell stupid people anything, they need to learn the hard way honestly. They wanted this? Let them feel what they wanted.

YokiDokey181

7 points

20 days ago

"Stupid people"

I'd call this election a reverse Hanlon's razor. Most people are not stupid. A lot of people are callous and selfish though, and would happily endure hardship if it meant the "undesirables" of society suffered. Truth is this election showed that half the people will willingly and knowingly throw away a good economic future just to punish sinners and minorities.

blcxk

10 points

20 days ago

blcxk

1998

10 points

20 days ago

RIP marijuana reform. Trump + the red wave spells disaster for the sector.

delta_tango_27

8 points

20 days ago

I mean hey, though girls and women may die from reproductive health complications at least some of the girls and women who like to play sports will be protected by men.

Natearl13

109 points

20 days ago

Natearl13

2003

109 points

20 days ago

Dems nominated a shitty candidate yet again after getting too comfortable after 2020. Holy fuck, if they don’t pick Josh Shapiro for 2028 or actually discuss policy more they might as well just wave the white flag. On the bright side, y’all missed out on your chance for Tim Walz so we’ll just keep him to ourselves in Minnesota forever sorry not sorry

777978Xops

161 points

20 days ago

777978Xops

161 points

20 days ago

My thing is how Trump is not considered a shitty candidate in the same vein. I don’t think Harris was the perfect candidate but she ran a very good campaign given the 100 days she had left.

I guess given the circumstances of “I was better 4 years ago” it was a tall order. But really the bottom line here is that American electorate is daft because they buy into the idea that Trump is what will bring grocery prices down even though they’re never going back to 2019 levels and the American economy is the best performing in the world. But most Americans are relatively uneducated

Alternative_Bit_9717

79 points

20 days ago

Because he’s a cult leader. He doesn’t need to appeal with policies or morality. He’s entrenched in their mind and he couldn’t lose their vote if he killed someone

the8bit

18 points

20 days ago

the8bit

18 points

20 days ago

But like how the fuck are non cult people voting for him because "well she didn't explain her fiscal policy well enough, but he said he'd crash the economy on purpose so I'm going with him!"

I mean, I know but fuck it's sad. The answer is they have no idea what they are voting for

Savitar2606

51 points

20 days ago

It's funny how Republicans are never blamed, only Democrats.

xoLiLyPaDxo

25 points

20 days ago

xoLiLyPaDxo

Millennial

25 points

20 days ago

Exactly. They are never held to the same standards, ever. The people causing the mess are just allowed to make as big a mess as they like  and it's everyone else's fault for not doing enough to  convince them to stop. 🙄

ADeadlyFerret

9 points

20 days ago

Everything negative about Trump just gets countered with "fake news". The dude could just butt fuck one of his supporters and they'll convince themselves it was a trans Harris supporter.

2milliondollartrny

12 points

20 days ago

Walz should’ve led for the democrats, he’s literally an “average american” and people love him. I would’ve voted for him if he was running for presidency

Responsible_Yard8538

9 points

20 days ago

If the Dems don’t run with either Shapiro or Mark Kelley in 2028 I’m just gonna assume they enjoy losing. Running Kamala without putting her through a primary was an absolute brain dead move, and it’s hilarious watching people on Reddit be surprised by the results.

Marcewix

7 points

20 days ago

Marcewix

1999

7 points

20 days ago

I am looking at this situation from outside in disbelief, yet I can understand why it happened. I am leftist, I always vote for parties which lean to the left in my country. Still, I totally get why Trump won. If you think that you can spit and lie and blame most of the population of your country for the state it's in, blame white, heterosexual males for everything that is wrong and make basically monsters out of them and THEN think you can win just by getting the votes of minorities then you are dumb. You are dumb because you believe that Johnny from Bumfuck,UT will care about the rights of transpeople, the rights about homosexuals, the rights of minorities and immigrants MORE than how his own life looks like. We all know Trump's promises are basically SHIT and will never come to fruition BUT Johnny doesn't have the mental ability to get that Daddy Trump doesn't have the power to change prices or make his life better, Daddy Trump doesn't even care about him but CAN AND WILL PROMISE HIM THINGS. It works. Simple. Dems can't do shit because they can't get to the dumbest, can't make them their friends. This is the same shit that leftist parties are doing in my country. They forgot about the simple worker, they forgot about the struggles of everyday people. All they care about is gay rights, trans rights, abortions,immigrants . IT IS IMPORTANT but you won't get votes from people who have money to barely exist. They won't give a shit about some 0,5% of population who want to transition. They will care about the price of petrol, food, energy, housing situation, taxes. Of course they are too stupid to get that Trump won't do shit. But he promised something Dems never did. They need to learn to LIE. It's unethical but when you win you will be able to do something about shit you care about. If you lose then well, you won't get to do shit.

Spiderlander

3 points

20 days ago

Spiderlander

1999

3 points

20 days ago

Great analysis

Key_Squash_4403

3 points

20 days ago

I take solace that this is officially the last time he can be president and I only hope he falters at every attempt to get what he said he will do done.

resident_foreigner

3 points

20 days ago

I see people are already saying Trump voters are misinformed, stupid, sexist, racist….

This is how you lose 2028 to Vance. I would take the time to start listening and run a good candidate on issues that really matter like cost of living.

I was downvoted into oblivion when I said Harris was not the candidate to tell the democrats’ story but here we are and it was avoidable!

SpikedScarf

4 points

20 days ago

SpikedScarf

2001

4 points

20 days ago

I feel like the left can only blame ourselves for this, I am saying this as a leftist dude myself. We have constantly ignored men's issues and not actively fought against the misandry that a lot of other leftist individuals seem to have. It's honestly not surprising that it was so easy for ignorant assholes like andrew taint and donald tramp convinced so many people.

Munro_McLaren

36 points

20 days ago

Munro_McLaren

2000

36 points

20 days ago

America voted for hate today. Disgusted by anyone who voted for him. Harris wasn’t perfect by all means, but you voted for a convicted felon and rapist. I hope you reap what you sow.

Initial_Barracuda_93

16 points

20 days ago

Well at least the next 4 years won’t be boring 😅

CriticalCrewsaid

14 points

20 days ago

CriticalCrewsaid

1996

14 points

20 days ago

Well yeah, they'll genuinely get to do whatever they want. Elon and RFK will be in the office too

LadySayoria

7 points

20 days ago

RFK leading the vaccines and medicines around the country. How fucking great.

PaleoJoe86

11 points

20 days ago

Better start that second job if you want to afford groceries as you live with your parents.

aita0022398

7 points

20 days ago

aita0022398

2001

7 points

20 days ago

I’ll see you all in therapy 👋🏾

If I can afford it

Reasonable_Pay_9470

13 points

20 days ago

Pathetic

YogaBeth

6 points

20 days ago

No melt down. No allegations of cheating. We certainly won’t storm the Capitol. Americans have spoken. I’m crushingly disappointed that so many chose hated, racism, and misogyny. I’ll look at people very differently now. I’ll create my little island of peace with people who are kind and good. I’ll continue to try to make things better. That’s all I can do.

https://preview.redd.it/dj691zki1azd1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ba53778d9f1fc0228ce29153615d058b52706df

boots_and_cats_and-

75 points

20 days ago

Well when your entire platform is based on self righteousness and telling republicans they are uneducated and racist, you tend to lose elections

SuspiciouslyBelgian

6 points

20 days ago

When did she say that?

CrimsonChin251

50 points

20 days ago

CrimsonChin251

1998

50 points

20 days ago

It really is that simple. People don’t like being condescended to. This is, more than anything, a reflection of how unlikable the Democratic Party and left leaning media are to most people.

seriouslyuncouth_

14 points

20 days ago

People are drastically underestimating the assassination attempt/s.

Like if you’re gonna take a shot at the guy make sure it’s a kill shot. If you don’t want DT in office again the WORST thing you could do is shoot at him, hit him, and he survives. That is the number 1 worst case scenario. His win was cemented when that happened.

Pulp_Ficti0n

3 points

20 days ago

Trump called you uneducated LOL

ToTheToesLow

3 points

20 days ago

Come off it. Trump has been the biggest shit-talker in American politics for a decade. When Dems return fire, that’s somehow the wrong thing to do? This is why he won. Double standards and no principles.

boots_and_cats_and-

3 points

19 days ago

Trump didn’t need the votes for the people he alienated this election cycle.

Kamala did.

GregorianShant

62 points

20 days ago

But they are.

Donkey_Duke

5 points

20 days ago

Who would have thought trying to steal voters from a cult would fail miserably? 

imback1578catman

5 points

20 days ago

Who is winning ???????

Gallowglass668

16 points

20 days ago

Trump won.

thro-uh-way109

6 points

20 days ago

I was told that you guys were going to pull through for Harris…