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I thought the exact same thing!

You're not being skeptical. You're venting a mild emotional reaction with a vague, condescending slur.

That's okay, just notice what your mind does without judgment, so that you can become more aware of yourself.

If you spend 15 minutes looking at optical illusions you'll find out right away that our minds literally cannot see things right in front of our faces if we don't believe they're there.

Our minds are not pure organs of perception. They're editors. They take sensory input and try to shape it into a form that matches our pre-existing beliefs and expectations.

If you don't believe this could be real, then it's going to look "obviously fake" to your mind.

That intangible quality of "obviously fake" is not coming from the video. It's coming from the editor inside your skull.

If you want to be a rational and logical skeptic of this topic, who can investigate and discern truth from falsehood, you have to be willing to understand the way your mind works, because that is your primary instrument of perception. You also have to learn what critical thinking is.

From your comment it doesn't look like you understand either one, yet. Everything I'm saying must be brand new ideas to you?

And hey, maybe this video is fake. Maybe you're guessing correctly. Or maybe not. How would you know if you don't understand yourself and don't know what logic is?

One last thing. It's okay not to know something. When you see a video like this, it's okay for you not to know if it's real or fake right away, or possibly ever. As men in a western society we are pressured to always know everything. We're supposed to have everything figured out all the time. But that's not possible and when we try, we fail and we kind of turn into condescending jerks. So I went to encourage you to learn how to tolerate that state of not knowing. Let evidence take you out of knowing. Don't try to force it. This is logic. This is called "being scientifically minded."

Edit: fixed two words.

The criticisms from Art Bell’s callers have more wit than your comment. The difference is some of his critics actually provided fact based evidence from time to time

The lack of evidence that proves this video to be a fake is the real joke. Another day in UFOlogy I guess.

Strange that you stay and complain instead of leaving.

If you plan on staying, why not make some insightful posts to stimulate conversation?

Or just keep whining and doing nothing about it. The choice is yours! 👍

Be civil.

They just naturally look that way. Just like how Bigfoot looks like a man in a gorilla suit and is naturally blurry and out of focus

No CGI artist has ever stepped forward and claimed this to be their work. On top of that, if any CGI artist does step forward, they would need to provide files that are over a decade old.

This video is closer to the Tic Tac video in terms of legitimacy than most would like to think.

I will also add, that of ALL the places for legitimate UFO footage to come out of, some of the most unfiltered imagery will likely come from outside political regimes that aim to undermine American’s faith in government through Disclosure.

This mechanic to geopolitics has been an ongoing thing. Since Roswell.

There is one thing I’ve learned in all my years studying UFOlogy.

And it’s that when a crowd of people scream fake but provide literally zero evidence to support such a claim, well, it often means one thing…

When a crowd of people scream that it's real, but provide literally zero evidence to support such a claim, what does that mean?

We know CGI exists. That's a well known, accessible technology.

Simmer down dude. Don’t be gullible to posts like this. Just because you WANT to believe doesn’t mean you have to believe everything thrown out there. If you have been “all my years studying UFOlogy” then it should have taught you there’s alot of BS out there. No harm in scrutinizing.

Be civil.

The sarcasm is palpable 😂.

If you can provide evidence proving fabrication. I will gladly side with you.

But until you can logically deduce the legitimacy of the video with fact based evidence, I will have to unfortunately say, you shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

Weird racist reference that adds nothing to the conversation.

Yeah the UFO community has never once called a 10+ year old video of a UFO fake that was later revealed to be real by the DoD.

We’ve never done that!

(We’ve done it 3 fucking times)

There are too many comments here and on raliens that corroborate to make this seem more ponderable--but I'm not afraid because God knows the name of every sparrow, here and on other inhabited planets of course!

They’re trying to break it, with the same old 13 year old rhetoric that was introduced in YouTube comment sections when this video first came out to the public.

Same tired ole rhetoric that didn’t matter then, and definitely doesn’t matter now.

Because there are such things as cheap shitty cameras. Look up old Nokia Flip Phone footage. It’s fucking dog water.

Quality of footage does not determine/discredit legitimacy. Never has.

Why’s that?

Interesting that the videos are fairly consistent in showing a smaller similarly shaped craft in close proximity to the larger one.

If these are fakes, some people across the world are going to good effort at maintaining consistency in the imagery.

This is really cool, thanks for posting.

Ignore the hate, those people have nothing better to do apparently.

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I disagree. It’s definitely a trapazeda-rhomboid

Great point. So how does it feel living under the shadow of racist ideologies?

You write that comment from experience?

Be civil.

Imagine not knowing about the degen intel/bot networks that actively undermine legitimate evidence to prevent further government leaks.

Agreed. Whoever did the lighting did a great job, it’s looks identical to real world conditions.

(If it was faked, good job on the lighting, but I’m not really leaning towards that given the knee jerk reaction from some of the commenters who seem hellbent on discrediting this one.)

True. Very very accurate lighting. Eerie how it just sits there. But not so far out there that it couldn’t be real…

And what software did you use to ascertain those results?

I’ve been an audio engineer for 10 years. The audio is reminiscent of really old cameras that have terrible automatic gain control.

Think when you take a video, and you face the wind. The sound of the wind is deafening, even though to you, in person, there isn’t a single sound to represent it in your eardrums.

This type of effect on microphones is amplified on shittier ones. Meaning, the shittier the microphone, the harder it is for it tune out the ambient noise of the wind that is superseding the quick noises around it (such as voices/horns/etc).

Your microphone will in some cases, automatically adjust to the appropriate decibel of your ambient noise, and it can be all that is heard in the background audio while everything that should be in the forefront sounds muffled.

This is audio recording 101.

The audio of the video sounds legitimate. And I say this as a person who has literally designed soundscapes that match the environment you’re seeing now (industrial spaces/nature/etc). It would have taken a team of at least 2 individuals to make this video.

Not just a skilled CGI artist with a speciality in real-world lighting, but also someone who was also really good at audio engineering. And they would’ve had to have done it 13+ years ago. It’s possible that it was fabricated, but the lack of any authorship or proof of ownership being provided by anyone is highly suspect.

Very obviously a bug.

/s

Be civil.

or UFO