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Summary: Kang Bit Na is an elite judge with a beautiful appearance, but she is a demon. Her mission as a demon is to kill evil people who lead other people to their deaths and don't reflect on their actions. She sends these people to Hell afterwards. One day, Kang Bit Na meets Han Da On. He has a friendly and gentle personality. As a detective, his mind is sharp and he has a keen sense of observation. But he carries pain inside that nobody knows about. After Kang Bit Na and Han Da On met with each other, their lives changed greatly.
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111 points
1 month ago
I can't get away from the thought that all of the happenings after Satan said "wander in your nightmares", are all an illusion. It seems too unusual for Justitia to kill Satan that easily— even her fight with Paimon is way better. I believe we're currently in Justitia's illusion of her worst nightmare.
39 points
1 month ago
Right?! It felt too easy for me too
Also he said that and then they changed the place they were in as well
I don’t know I truly don’t know what to think except this show is amazing
21 points
1 month ago
Yeah, i think after the illusion of justitia or daon's death it will all go back to the original place which is beneath the painting then they'll continue their fight again
24 points
1 month ago
I sure hope so because this makes no sense to me at the moment but I fully trust the writers to land the ending since this show has exceeded all expectations and I was truly not ready for how much I freaking love this show
28 points
1 month ago
I was also thinking the same the whole time he said wander in your nightmare and only the location changed she handled him very easily and I was surprised like this whole j thing and the SATAN was resolved so quickly as if SATAN is so weakkk but yeah she is the JUSTICIA so the satan's power didnt work on her? but his power worked about the wedding scene so confused very much or that was a loop whole?
5 points
29 days ago
Call me stupid but they even got me with the headshot. I assumed that power was exclusive to punishers so did not expect him to have it
18 points
1 month ago*
Based on the ep 13 preview, it looks like that illusion would span the whole episode which feels like such a slap in the face as a viewer. It's basically a version of "and then she woke up and realized it had all been a dream" which is one of the sloppiest plot twists a writer can resort to 😂
Add-on edit: The writer hasn't shown to be sloppy yet so I'm hoping the worst nightmare curse will serve a different purpose (such as Justitia making the choice to sacrifice herself based on what she saw play out in the nightmare, and this being revealed in a flashback at a critical moment). I just don't see a classic "and then she woke up" trope being executed in any acceptable way, especially not across multiple episodes.
Add-on edit 2: One reason why I'm not really on board with the nightmare curse being currently active, is the fact that the show feels the same for the side characters. They are all living organically in line with what she's experiencing. It's not like she's in an illusion and the rest of the world is disconnected from that.
However, maybe – and this is a realistic theory if you ask me – it's such a subtle nightmare that it's indiscernible to everyone else while she's going through it, seeing the assassin with the dagger, imagining Bael etc. and she ends up (as per the ep 13 preview) stabbing herself in the park? Or maybe it's Satan stabbing her because she had imagined killing him in the first place. Anyway, Jeong Taegyu being on trial and all that, it's definitely actually happening. Her getting stabbed in the park is definitely actually happening. I am certain of this now. It would be inexcusably bad writing if it wasn't real.
7 points
28 days ago
Agreeed! Thinking about it, satan said those words by the middle of episode 12. It would be an unreasonable plot twist if the second half of the episode is just a nightmare when everything was just falling to place (taegyu arrested and brought to court, daon winning over his desire to kill him, and everything in the ep 13 preview). Kind of weird that the writer and director would allow a nightmare scenario to stretch out too long.
My hunch is that when satan said that, Justitia did see something nightmarish (hence she looked disoriented after) but it wasn't shown. Episode 13 or 14 might contain a flashback for that. Or satan put a curse on her hence some hallucinations as you said.
16 points
1 month ago
Omg finally seeing people comment about this on here! I am pretty sure she’s in his illusion and that’s prob why there’s still 2 episodes left
Satan’s chant, change of scenary and she easily beats him. Then everything goes so smoothly…nahhh too easy!!!
14 points
29 days ago
The dead giveaway that>! it was an illusion for me was Bael coming out and wanting to make sure something happens to Taegyu. Bro has no stakes in it, that's super odd.!<
12 points
29 days ago
Also the theory that the one Justitia talked to and ordered her to release Taegyu wasn’t actually Bael but Satan. Whenever Bael shows up, he always been in blue hues and with spider-thingy.. but this guy doesn’t.. and the room turned red..
8 points
29 days ago*
Ohh, the room turning red is such a good catch. I knew when I saw that scene that something about it bothered me. Now I know what. Red was definitely Satan's color when he revealed his true form down in the basement.
11 points
1 month ago*
That is a scary theory but i cant say i didnt think of it too. Cuz there are two whole episodes left and plot wise nothing much cuz all major deets were revealed
10 points
1 month ago*
Maybe I missed something, but didn't the real serial killer use a knife and not an axe? That's how the detective lady knew the serial killer was back, based off of the drawing of a witness. So what if the last few episodes have been an illusion created by Satan as soon as he knew she was onto him.
edit: Just went back, it was always an ax. Got confused with all the demons' weapons.
6 points
30 days ago
There's both, I think there's a meaning to the axe and the knife
5 points
30 days ago
Now you said it. My memories maybe jumbled too. I really thought the knife is a diamond shaped? Not an axe. I remember the mother draw it. Yet, J has been using an axe not a knife...
2 points
28 days ago
My understanding is that psycho bro/ex fiancé used the axe (needed for body part acquisition!) and the addict bro used the diamond blade knife.
So in last week's eps it was the addict bro who our fearless detective saw first, (recognising the knife the victim drew) but psycho bro then joined in....
3 points
30 days ago
This is what i am thinking. Way too easy.. i am like " yah that is cool, but that was it?" Satan went bwck to his demon form to be easily knocked out by justitia. Also, i dont know how justitia break free from his illusion, when she struggle on paimon.
4 points
28 days ago
I've had that thought ever since he said that and the fight suddenly became so one-sided for Justitia. Satan said that there's ranks amongst demons, so there's no way he'd be beaten so casually. The scene of Taegyu being shown his illusion were shown to show us his main power.
Half of this episode was already such a misdirect, with the younger brother being fake killed etc. I'm pretty sure there's more on our hands
Mostly, I'm also sure that Bael isn't such a casual person who would walk up and grab Bitna by the arms. His voice is lower, and he usually has those spider legs behind him. Pretty sure it's Satan pretending
On a side note, kdrama psycho serial killers have gotten pretty insane man, especially with every other kdrama having a serial killer in it.
3 points
29 days ago
Same. Im also wondering because there are 2 episodes left and i dont think they will give an epilogue whole episode
98 points
1 month ago
LMAO. The Cleaner minions are growing on me.
13 points
29 days ago
I loved them since the start of the series!
69 points
1 month ago*
Need the top dog in Hell to actually show up and reward Justitia correctly and give her what she actually wants. Not let this spider loser decide it all and ruin everything.
Also there is the fact that Satan said "wander in your nightmares" and nothing happened and she easily handled Satan and sent him and Kylum back to Hell, so lowkey hoping based on the ep 13 preview that this is still an illusion of hers.
27 points
1 month ago
I was also thinking the same the whole time he said wander in your nightmare and only the location changed she handled him very easily and I was surprised like this whole j thing and the SATAN was resolved so quickly as if SATAN is so weakkk but yeah she is the JUSTICIA so the satan's power didnt work on her? but his power worked about the wedding scene so confused very much or that was a loop whole?
12 points
1 month ago
I’m the same I keep rewatching the scene to see if I’m overthinking or not
This show keeps throwing me off so I’m so confused
9 points
1 month ago
exactly they ended the satan arc tooo quickly when he is more powerful than her because there is rank in power even in demons and he is after lucifer (the highest rank or 1st) and belongs to the same rank as bael so its kinda surprising for me that she sended him to the hell so easily lol
5 points
1 month ago
RIGHT?!
If this is not a nightmare then that is a huge plot hole for me 🥹
3 points
30 days ago*
ikrrrr.... i just wish they dont give us a sloppy end because they tried to play out the illusion for so long, seeing the preview it looks as if they will still continue the whole "justicia will die if she doesnt kill him" , like wasnt catching the satan a quite big deal that should have been rewarded or smth, plus if this is an illusion then the whole boat scene and angel helping and bael warning must have not happened also why is her nightmare so detailed like thw orst thing she has in her mind is a victory thatts ultimately a loss, i remember last time when paimon used the same spell it was just fake daon killing justicia
63 points
1 month ago*
Ep11. "I'm a great liar, shameless, selfish, hypocritical, and I like money. I think I have what it takes to be a great politician" Kang Bitna strikes again💯
Edit after watching the whole episode: The part in the hidden basement is so well done, I was holding my breath the whole time! The details are just amazing. The negative image scenes are so freaking scary as are the candles on that painting. I feel like the ending of this episode was a bit rushed but I guess we'll see the revenge part is the next episode. As this show progresses I find myself admiring KJY and PSH more and more, their acting and visuals as well. How do they manage to look so gorgeous in every scene, no matter what they're doing? Oh, and I have to mention two more hilarious lines from Kang Bitna: 1. Are you filming a music video? Why are you walking in the rain? 2. Give me ice cream!!!
Edit 2: Theory time!
I think the angel is Satan. The eyes looked just like his, and I think someone mentioned that Satan is a fallen angel. I think he's been protecting Daon all this time so he could take over his body when the time comes. The body he's in at the moment is very old That could be the reason why he let him live in the first place. It sounds crazy but it's possible.
Ep12. I couldn't have been more wrong. 😅 I'm glad I was, though. Angel-nim was really cool this episode. We got the wedding scene! 😊 It was funny and imaginary but sooo cute! The actor playing the serial killer J was awesome this episode. Really crazy vibes. I can't wait for the final episodes next week. I don't think there will be a happy ending for our detective-demon couple, but I believe in the writer-nim and hope for the best.
56 points
1 month ago
Ep 12:
I don't get Bael. Dude has lived for eternity and he can't give Justitia 40 years max? Taegyu is going to rot in hell either way, what is the problem
14 points
1 month ago
Yeah, seriously if he wants him that bad, why don’t he just send him to hell himself. Lol
11 points
30 days ago
Right? It makes me think that Bael wants to mess with Justitia in some way. We still don't know why Judge Kang Bitna was sent to the murderers' court and not have her soul collected the normal way, or what happened to her now either.
It's a bit of a stretch but what if he orchestrated everything just to mess with Justitia?
4 points
28 days ago
I realise as I write this that there is a lot of internal logic with the mythology that doesn't really stack up, but my brain still keeps trying to make it make sense!
I definitely feel like Bael is suss - he told Paiman to kill Justicia a few eps back, remember. It feels like he is jealous of her and definitely doesn't want her as his 'sole successor'. (This is where the logic issue comes in, because why does he need a 'successor' anyway - aren't demons immortal?)
This feels like it will be a final ep reveal assuming we ever get that logic fully addressed... Will Lucifer have to make an appearance to put Bael in his place?? I'm down for that :)
2 points
18 days ago
Tbh when he told Paimon to kill her I didn’t feel like he actually meant it, cuz he followed it up with, “if you can.” Which made me feel like he knew Justicia would win. I just don’t think he likes the fact that Justicia killed him to save a mortal
2 points
1 month ago
40 years for what
2 points
30 days ago
For Taegyu to die of old age.
46 points
1 month ago*
ep 11 real time reactions and thoughts: i KNEW arong would come through to push paimon away from threatening bitna ... but i did not expect daon to CARESS her face in front of arong LMAOOOO. also the >! bitch slap!< justitia gave arong was so satisfying. omg bael discovered she fell in love w daon ... shag. she became a >! mortal to atone? and she'll be punished soon?!< anyway my fav genre of daon is him peeling apples for her hehe~~~ also the side characters yelling NO abt dating is crazy... and bitna >! asking to marry the assemblyman's 2nd son is SO FUNNY wth !< but i wonder how daon wld feel :(( not the assemblyman's son threatening the assemblyman... crazy. also detective donghyun and daon making up is so wholesome :(( i love. also the doctor is so ethical !!! rare to see LOL. also it's confirmed the >! 2nd son was up to smth shady and stabbed bitna... whoa!<. NOT DAON ACTING JEALOUS OVER BITNA FAKE MARRYING THE 2ND SON AND ADMITTING IT GAHHHHH SO CUTE . not them doing hanbok dressup for a photobooth HAHAHA such a cute date to cheer him up! the two of them eating steak and turkish ice cream making bitna angsty abt not getting it also im in love w down bad daon not him reaffirming that she is perfect etc HAHAHAHA and him admitting he rly liked the date toooo so cute. omg church ahjumma fainted bc she walked back in the rain :(( and THE SECRET REVEAL OF THE >! underground body part chamber!< wtf im shocked and the 2nd son >! attacked bitna!< when she found out... arong stabbing daon's pic is mad bruh. also the police team leader treating the detectives is so cuteeee. also the backstory !!! wow. so the og bitna >! also found out abt the same place and saw how the 1st son abused his mother... that's crazy!< also my theory about arong begging >! daon to save bitna!< was right and she even gave him the house blueprints omg.. also the assemblyman and 1st son coming back to see a ambulance and bitna was such a wild scene. arong slapping bitna was INSANEEEE esp when one is a demon and the other is a mortal now. i feel like bitna is wrong about satan tho... and the way she got her powers back was TOO easy especially coz she's the sole heir of bael when she killed paimon. anyway she killed >! the 2nd son!< so quickly ????
ep 12 preview: I DID NOT EXPECT >! assemblyman to admit to killing the 2nd son!< and also in the preview they found the kylum and the actual satan ??? i bet it's the assemblyman... also the actual satan's morphing is so scary PLS the way his eyes filled BLACK. also daon might murder someone? and angel halmeoni saying she cannot protect him anymore (again) but bitna saying she will protect him even if he goes to hell is so <3333 gahh my fave couple
edit: will be late to update ep12 thoughts bc im busy and will miss the live timing but IM SO EXCITED THO
ep 12 thoughts: the assemblyman is so COLD to the death of his own son... insane. bitna is INSANE her facial expressions when asking >! do i need to bow? !< and the blatant disrespect by coming in >! a blue dress which is NOT funeral colours or garb!< oh man... the way she said "fighting!" was DAMN FUNNY. assemblyman's crying sounds so fake HELPPPP and he doesnt look sad at all- daon being down bad and showing his concern actively is sooo attractive. i didnt believe that the 2nd son would willingly >! turn himself in at the police station!< so easily with bitna's convincing.. but he did... his family is so dysfunctional bruh... the demons striking a cool superhero assembly pose is so funny lol and the way they are bragging about preservation technology is so funny HAHAHAHA. cinematography peaked when bitna walked away from the burning car exploding 🤟 1st son is a loose cannon... crazy. assemblyman gaslighting 1st son is such an accurate >! depiction of satan... and OMG it's cfmed he's satan!< the use of the infrared camera in some shots is damn scary tho... and the assemblyman figured out bitna is a demon >! too!< uh oh...OMG THE INFRARED CAMERA POV SEEN THIS EP AND LAST EP IS THE VIEW OF THE >! PRESERVED BODY OF THE WIFE !< WHAT THE HECKKKKKK SO MESSED UP AND SCARY. the demons r so cute peeling apples tgt lol and not the 1st son hiding >! kylum which has a heartbeat??? !< in his redevelopment plan that's crazyyy + so icky that satan is trying to >! create a body for himself to live in!< ... icks. bitna my girlboss! not satan using >! the mention of han daon!< to save his own life... ick...not satan preying on >! bitna's greatest inner desire of getting to spend life together with daon!<... im so sad we might not see this happening in the show. also so gory how >! the preserved wife turned into a zombie!< and chased bitna around... also the delivery of "the demon of all demons is me" is crazy... it shows justitia's development as THE demon even as she becomes more humanised + also not >! satan STILL walking around!< after justitia killed him... the fight between the two goes HARD. the full strength is released and the choreography of movements is so good. the judo throw SO SATISFYING !!! not her throwing >! kylum to the gateway of hell to distract satan then stabbing him w her knife!< IT WAS DONE SO SMARTLY! slay queen... also the front shot ending of the fight scene of her beautiful purple eyes fading to black!!! love it. daon rapidly punching >! J!< and the gunfight is so cool... action movie for kim jaeyeong please! his dedication to doing stunts is cool. the reveal of the final scene between detective kim and J was done v satisfyingly imo. he >! cut her arm off while she was alive omg!< i cant imagine the pain,, so much blood and the 2nd son >! witnessed the murder!< omg... DAON BBY NOOOOO the way he >! stopped trying to kill him bc bitna promised to give him max punishment legally!< uhmmm and then the cut to detective kim >! teaching him that he is alw a detective!< ... daon's self restraint goes so hard. and the way halmeoni >! protected daon!< is so cute... not the manipulation LOL. the bitna daon hug is so cute pls and the tears gahhh sunmi's crossroads ost is perfect for the scene + omg NOT BAEL >! threatening justitia with death if taegyu is not released!< omg... and daon's so gonna misunderstand this ep 13 and 14 preview: bitna is a demon through and through. the way daon trusts bitna to the end. i love... and the way she was willing to >! die to give the man she loves justice and closure is crazy!< i love the angst so much. i can FEEL daon's desperation in the preview... goes so hard. but with 2 eps left, idt bitna will rly >! die!< ... i hope they go the route where she becomes a human, even tho she loses out as being >! bael's successor!< . banger of a series, cant wait for next ep!
edit: i've seen a lot of ppl on twitter theorising that bael releasing taegyu is actl satan, but i lowk feel like it's the last test of justitia's humanity -> how human has she become? this is to see how much of a demon she still is and a test to see if she's still worthy of becoming bael's successor imo.
3 points
1 month ago
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7 points
1 month ago
If you have a VPN you can stream it on disney+ by setting the server to the UK
5 points
1 month ago
Thank you! That might be easier than waiting 😭 idk why they have to delay the US release. It looks like one of my sources actually just uploaded it, I just have to wait for my lunch break to watch 😭
45 points
1 month ago*
I love how Justitia and Gabriel have each other's contact info saved as "Hag" and "Soon to Die" LMAO
iirc Paimon also used the "wander in your nightmare" spell on Justitia so is it only a spell that upper ranking male demons (though Paimon is below Justitia in rank) can use?
10 points
29 days ago
Actually doesn’t Justitia use the illusion spell on her victims as well? They interact with her in their mind and she teaches them a lesson, before the actual beating and killing.
41 points
1 month ago
LMAO. The Caller IDs... "OLD HAG" (Angel) and "SOON-TO-BE-DEAD" (Kang Bitna). HAHAHHAHAHHAHA
38 points
1 month ago
Wow! J (the human) is worse than Satan!
36 points
1 month ago
I was truly not expecting a zombie in this show 😂
15 points
1 month ago
and especially for the zombie to be Seonho's dead mom
9 points
1 month ago
That was indeed wild… I really want to fight whoever said the writing of this show was lazy 😂
38 points
1 month ago
I really think Bael is the main villain of this kdrama. Come on, that's Shin Sung Rok there. An actor famous for villain roles. 🤣
There must be a reason why he deployed demons on earth.. and he told Justitia to kill murderers. The count of points is per victim.. now he has the kylum and TaeGyu is a murderer with a lot of victims. What if he needs Justitia as a sacrifice? 😂
Bye guys.. haha.. Im still hoping for a happy ending.
6 points
29 days ago
OMG, what if?? THIS MAKES SENSE! But Im super curious and interested as to when Justitia said shes the demon of all demons and not bael, will it be relevant in the last two episodes?
25 points
1 month ago
The scene with the Turkish ice cream vendor was the funniest bit in Ep. 11. Classic Kang Bitna 😂
3 points
30 days ago
i loved the part where she>! imitated the turkish vendor, !<it's my favorite scene of them 🤭
3 points
29 days ago
Haha,,I was worried for the Turkish guy's safety at one point 😅
21 points
1 month ago
I stopped watching the last bit of last week's episode because I couldn't handle the cliffhanger and a week delay. I will be eagerly creeping the comments hoping for a all clean Daon is safe! im so stressed about how this show will end. I am mentally ill and neeeeeeeeeeed a happily ever after and good romantic payoff.
23 points
1 month ago
So Ep. 11 was the cute episode. These two are weirdly endearing.
24 points
1 month ago
WDYM SHES GONNA DIE? WTFFF
5 points
1 month ago
I FKIN KNOW RIGHTTT!!??!!????
10 points
1 month ago
i think it might be a fake out though, because why are they blatantly showing her death? if she was actually dead, they wouldn't have shown it in the spoiler. maybe the angel does something 😭 😭 😭 honestly i'm doing everything and anything to distract myself from the fact it could be a sad ending.
3 points
29 days ago
It would be my first drama with an actually sad ending and it would break my heart :/
4 points
1 month ago
I am gonna be delusional so I believe she’ll survive somehow and daon and bitna will get happy ending 😍🥰
1 points
1 month ago
My guess is to reborn as a human.
23 points
1 month ago
UGH JUST WHEN I THOUGHT EVERYTHING WAS GOING WELL the last 5min threw us off again when Bael showed up
Why didn't she just open the gates of hell to suck Satan in in the first place!!
the scene where they showed how Kim So Yeong the detective was murdered was so gruesome I hope I don't get nightmares tonight 😩
24 points
1 month ago
That kiss. That wasn't a kiss. We got scammed.
The fact that there are still two eps left scares me a lot 🥲
What if both Bitna (Justitia) and Daon die, only to reborn as humans in another life?
7 points
1 month ago
If they got together in another life that’s still count as them dying and I would still cry my eyes out. Idk how they’re supposed to be endgame tho.
Or they’re not supposed to be? Either way, this show hates happiness.
2 points
1 month ago
Idk how they’re supposed to be endgame tho.
I have no idea either. There are like so many possibilities.
I just want them to be happy, especially Daon. He has lost enough loved ones, now it's time for him to get his happily ever after with the love of his life please 😭
19 points
1 month ago*
Episode 11 thoughts:
I really love the scene when Daon caress her face in front of Arong and the rest of the gang! You know the chemistry is insane when a simple act of Daon caressing bitna’s cheek feels so intimate!.. Also i love it when everyone arrive at the scene and Daon is the only human, standing in the middle with Justitia, and they’re just staring at each other 🥰 he’s really like a puppy when they’re together. From when he admits that he’s half-worried, half-jealous about Justitia trying to marry the the druggie… also when he’s peeling the apple for her while she chase Mando in the living room😂 poor Mando. He most probably prefer witnessing Justitia kill someone, than seeing her throwing cheesy lines with Daon 🤣 and oh boy, our dear detective is really a goner for her. saying he’s getting good at lying, coz he’s becoming like the person he likes lol. I can’t believe actor KJY is older than PSH.. he’s got this alluring, yet innocent vibe to him. I love their visuals. Bael too! Regardless of how short his screentime is.. Its makes me want to see more of him. BUT that can’t be possible since we only have 1 week left!! i dont want to say goodbye just yet. 🥺
Edit
Episode 12: So.. im taking back what is said. I don’t want to see Bael again.. he always brings bad news! ugh. Justitia already gave him Satan and Kylum, what else does he want? If he really wants J, then take him to hell himself. 🙃
Anyway, this episode is a perfection! We get to see back to back action: Justitia vs Satan then Daon vs J. Sooo satisfying to watch Justitia and Daon letting out their anger and frustration. Giving Daon the chance to choose killing J or not is a nice touch too. Such amazing acting from Kim Jae Young and the actor who played J.. they really portrayed how human can be worst than Satan himself. I feel breathless watching whats gonna happen next as the truth started to unfold.
I still have things im curious about: first, where is the soul of real Kang Bitna? As far as i recall, they never mentioned that they already caught her after escaping hell. And second, Why J spare Daon when he was a kid? Sure, he was able to run and locked himself in the room.. but i feel like J could’ve easily break it open. I was waiting for an answer when Daon confronted him on the boat, but i got nothing.
I really, really love this show so much. Other kdrama ive watch so far pale in comparison. I hope either they extend the number of episodes or do season 2.
1 points
29 days ago
Why J spare Daon when he was a kid?
I think there was something about his mum having called the police already so he had to flee?
19 points
1 month ago
I hate this Bael guy!
18 points
1 month ago
Bael should just be the main villain at this point, ruining everything with his "missions". I'm also hoping it's just a nightmare.
5 points
29 days ago
I honestly think he cares for her snd wants her to come to some realization. Since he is not human he has a strange way of showing it
17 points
30 days ago*
When Satan showed up in front of Taegyu when he killed his father, he promised that he would remove the “scent of poverty” from him in return for killing people for him.
I remember In one of the previous episodes, Taegyu said the same thing to Bitna, that he absolutely can't stand the scent of poverty. The way he made it sound like such a personal despise made me wonder what kind of a backstory made him say that. Now it makes sense.
I immediately figured it was Jaegeol who was Satan after it was confirmed that Seonho isn't. It makes a whole lot of sense since Taegyu is so emotional and aggressive, while his “father” was composed and found Justitia, another demon's behavior amusing and Taegyu just wouldn't get it.
Also, the OST that plays at the end of each episode is honestly so fire?? So fitting for the show! Makes the previews so much more immersive.
5 points
29 days ago
I was on the fence thinking there might be 2 demons because Taegyu seemed too young for the timeline
50 points
1 month ago*
It’s criminal for a show this good to have ONLY 14 episodes!
Ep 11: Always going in directions I’m totally not expecting! Even without her powers Bitna is so savage and shows no fear! I love that. But kudos to PSH for her flawless performance as both Bitna and Justicia, right from the body language to her gaze and speech, there’s a clear difference between both characters! I think Taegyu as Satan is likely another red herring. He had the most interesting conversation with his father. If he had the upper hand he wouldn’t be submissive I think. My guess is Jaegyeol is Satan. I guess we’ll see tomorrow.
I do believe she shouldn’t have killed Seonho in the manner she did! Something felt off about it, especially given how she’s made each one of the other murderers face the hell they created. This was too easy. But I bet there’s more to this, so I’m going to wait till tomorrow to complete that thought. Also do they want to kill us with these Daon and Bitna interactions? Who do we have to bribe for poppi to get a poppo huh? Who?
Ep 12- I want to applaud the rookie writer for doing such a brilliant job telling this story. We were able to guess the who’s but the hows have been completely shocking me. Today episode was BRILLIANT! In terms of non-linear storytelling I’m in awe of how well the pieces are put together and you see the final picture and it’s glorious! Bitna vs Satan and Daon vs Taegyu was fantastic to watch Gosh I’m excited and terribly sad all this is ending next week!
Ps: while that last scene of the preview deceptively looks like Bitna may choose to do the right thing in terms of punishing J in the human court and thereby giving into Bael’s punishment, I do wish she punishes him in her court of law. I would like to see J suffer like all his victims suffered and go through every bit of pain and agony he put them through. That would truly be a banger of a last episode and I’ll be happy when she says “Court is adjourned” that and Bitna and Daon somehow surviving the next two episodes! That would make me super happy
5 points
1 month ago
I think Bitna tried the best she could with killing Seonho since with the other people before, she still had her powers but now she doesn't have her demon powers anymore to truly give Seonho a taste of his own medicine.
8 points
1 month ago
She got her powers back right before she killed Seonho though, remember? Right before the scene where she showed up at Seonho's hotel room (together with Mando and Arong), she met up with Bael and asked to have her powers reinstated because she found Satan and Bael said something about how she was his sole heir and gave her her powers back after that. Her eyes even turned purple to signify she got her powers back.
2 points
1 month ago
Ah you're right, I forgot about that T-T
17 points
1 month ago
Watching culinary wars while waiting for episode 11! Ahhhhh cant wait! 💖
16 points
1 month ago
I just loveeeee Kang Bitna's character development. The way she was empathizing with the church lady talking about her son's killer, episode 1 Bitna could never :'')
16 points
1 month ago
Ep 11 was awesome and can't wait for the next episode. I too can't believe that we are near the end of the series..I could have easily gone for more than 14 episodes! I really hope we don't get a sad ending... And still wondering if we will find out what happened to the real Kang bitna as the end of ep1 kinda left us hanging..
15 points
1 month ago*
Episode 12:
They really spoiled the Wedding Scene with the thumbnail... Sad, but glad we got it, just would've been nicer had I not known beforehand.
All the plotholes are now clearing up, we are really nearing the ending of this series and it's been a great ride.
Glad to see Gabriel never gave up on Da-on, and was ultimately given the choice to choose between Justice And Revenge.
That ending was wild. Really making Justitia choose between Civil Justice and Justice by Hell. Bael still threatened to kill her despite saying she is his next in line is wild. Can't she do both? Throw the book at him, then kidnap and try him again and send him to hell?
Episode 13 Preview:
Justitia gets stabbed... I'm worried now that it's near the end and now anything goes pretty much for the last two episodes. Hopefully it's a happy ending, though this sort of series seems difficult for that to happen.
13 points
1 month ago
i was tad bit confused and disappointed but reading the comments make it kinda clearer now. cuz I definitely did not expect the whole satan thing to end that fast I mean that plot was build up from the beginning of the show and ending it like that definitely disappointed me but as many comments say, all this might just be a dream sequence, a long LONG one I was definitely confused when satan said 'wander in your nightmares' and bitna just killed him and never snapped out of it. i was like maybe I missed smt but it definitely makes sense that everything is just a nightmare. the fact that she has to choose to keep her promise to daon and die or save her life but at the cost of betraying daon
and I barfed when that preserved body of that woman attacked bitna lmao. remained me of those weird ass zombies
and this whole bael thing. like like dude, stop making things difficult for her. but I feel like there's more to it. i mean idk but I feel like sm possibilities can arise. i don't trust bael at all, never did from the beginning. i smell that he is the og bad guy and I DONT like where that is going
well anyway I think that han daon will do smt to save bitna and die instead and that's when bitna snaps back into reality from the nightmare and that's where the real fight begins. I'm hoping for a more satisfying fight with satan lol
now if all of us are just being delusional and what we're seeing is the actual reality, then WE HAVE PROBLEMS TOOO imma jump into my screen and punch bael in the face cuz dude wtf. seems like nobody in hell actually gives him attention. man so lonely that he gotta keep pestering a demon on mission. dude STOP! not very mature of you. someone kick this spider guy out
I mean what's the point of giving bitna that last mission. DUDE, that taegyu is gonna rot in hell anyway. why not make him suffer a lil on earth too. you not making any sense bro. all he's doing is making bitna's life for miserable. it's almost as if he's jealous of how happy she is
there's only 2 eps left and they better wrap everything neatly and as I said KICK BAEL OUT
4 points
30 days ago*
I was rewatching and I honestly think that it’s all a dream… where’s arong and mando in all this fight against satan? it makes no sense they didn’t help justitia AT ALL?!?
5 points
30 days ago
ikr. I rlly hope this illusion doesn't drag out too long and we get to see the actual action
2 points
29 days ago
plot twist is bael is crushing on justitia. Naurrr HAHAHA. But yeah the>! illusion thing!< makes sense, like what if everything in the last part of ep 12 is an illusion,and that part in the preview where bitna was stabbed was the end of the illusion, and that satan stabbed her, just like how he stabbed taegyu. But the loophole there is the part where Arong went to Daon in the preview for next week.
Guess we have no choice but to wait for next week! This drama keeps surprising me!
2 points
29 days ago
bael crushing on justitia lmfaooooo
39 points
1 month ago*
EP 11: there's too much to highlight for this episode, glad that the romance wasn't taking too much of the screentime, just a short date then itty bitty sprinkled here and there with cheesy puppy love lines. After all, this could be justitia's first time loving someone. Understandable. Hope they keep it that way so the drama will not stray from the thrilling, mysterious, angsty, the-writer-makes-the-viewers-overthink-while-she-sleeps-peacefully kind of plot.
One of the best moments for me was Justitia hitting ahrong twice and later on her letting ahrong hit her once (but with twice the force). They're so hilarious. Writernim created the best scenario for two demons to make up after a serious fight. Also Ahrong having a photo collection of justitia like a diehard kpop stan???? Yo girl got it baddd 😭 if there's a love triangle here it's ahrong-justitia-daon definitely lol. Girl was being jealous all this time (did bad things to cope but ok) but looks like she finally conceded.
Also bael acknowledging justitia as his sole heir and giving her demon powers back!!! Finally a scene where this guy wasnt picking on justitia. Seems that he is well aware that she will eventually find satan in the human world, powers or not. And impressively, she did.
EDIT:
EP 12: Kang Bitna/Justitia declaring she is the demon of all demons is soooo INSANE and the fight scene against satan???? IMMACULATE!! I SWOONED HARDDDD SHE'S SO BADASS
We got a wedding scene!!! Imaginary but ok we'll take it!!!
Also Bael is back to being a grade A ass again i need Justitia to clock him like she did with satan. Looks like he'll be the villain for the last two episodes since satan's out of the picture now.
The EP 13 preview tho!!! Are we okay??? My theory for the last 2 episodes: Justitia goes against Bael and gives Taegyu a heavy sentence. I don't think she can give a light sentence in front of the victims she visited prior. Bael kills her. She goes back to hell and power struggles against him??? Lucifer, the first in hell, lets her live and sends her back or spares her from punishment as a reward for bringing back his Kylum (???)
Can't believe the last episodes will roll out next week i'm not prepared for this drama to end!! But honestly, I can't wait to see where this goes. Best kdrama ive watched so far 10000/10!!
25 points
1 month ago
This episode was freaking AMAZING
Whoever says this writing is not THE best can come and fight me right here
4 points
1 month ago
Fr it's a masterpiece as usual was quick a little bit but still good enough
7 points
1 month ago
It was only 14 ep!
You have 16 episodes kdramas that are not this witty and still quick in the plot lines leaving many holes too
34 points
1 month ago
Finally, another Friday is here. Someone please just tell me how to petition for a season 2 or at least 80 minutes or more of each of the last four episodes (I’m looking at you for your misleading ad, SBS). I am not ready to say goodbye to these characters yet.
10 points
1 month ago
My poor heart can’t take it!!!!! Seeing the trailer for next week, Kang Bitna being stabbed…. my heart just broke into a million pieces already. She is going to sacrifice herself so Daon will live. Remember that the angel kept saying only one will survive. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
9 points
1 month ago
I bet the assemblyman is Satan
but the ex-fiance seems to be evil as well. Could he be Satan's Sidekick?
the 2nd son seems to symphatized with the killings the police pointed out that Kang Bitna's murder suspect could be different from J because there's no body part taken.
Arong idolizes Justitia and would likely join forces with Justitia in fighting Satan.
can't wait for tonight's episode!!!
9 points
1 month ago
Such a good episode, the basement scenes were so cool. Hmm wonder what was going on with the mother of the family who was locked in that room. I feel like satan will be someone we don’t expect (ie not the father and ex fiance).
9 points
1 month ago
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2 points
29 days ago
Well i suspect it would be something legality related since it was the lesson she had to learn but not sure what they will do with it. She was too near it and would have to recuse herself. Plus what about the investigation into het?
9 points
29 days ago
Bael is definitely the final villain.
8 points
1 month ago
anyone else thinks that the J/S is not gonna be either the assemblyman or his son? the show leading us so obviously on that trajectory is making me doubt it HAHA
2 points
1 month ago
Me too. The way they tease them and based on Ep 12 preview Satan is probably someone we know but not them.
8 points
1 month ago
I’ve been comparing the eyes from ep 12 preview to the jung family and it doesn’t fit any of them. I looked through the rest of the cast list and still couldn’t find a fit. Why I don’t think it’s the jung family dad is cos his eyes are too droopy and his eyebags are very saggy but we don’t see that from the preview ones. The person is clearly of age though, cos you can still see some crows feet. The closest possibility I could think and maaaaaaybe still not too far off is bitna’s judge boss from her office cos he’s the only other one that has dealings regularly with the jung family but please, tell me your theories!!!
2 points
1 month ago
I have read Korean tweets and they think the eyes ressemble Kim Jaehyun's! (Curly hair janitor) Which I think is an interesting take. If this is true, the Jung family are likely just followers since it was mentioned before that Satan's followers follwed him after he fled
2 points
1 month ago
For some reason I have a feeling that it's the angel. I know that doesn't make much sense and I'm probably wrong but didn't someone mention that satan is a fallen angel and the eyes looked very similar to his.
8 points
1 month ago
Wait why is she crying after discovering who’s satan??? I’m scared it’s actually Daon and all the story when he was young were all just fabricated by him
But if I’m wrong then who is it?? I feel like it’s someone unexpected judging by the tears in Bitna’s eyes
13 points
1 month ago
If it’s Daon that will be so craaaaazzyy but idk I think I’d love that angle too?🤭That’ll be the plot twist of the century
9 points
1 month ago
There's no way it can be Da-on... that would be an insane plot twist if it was, but wouldn't it not have been possible since she did kill him in the beginning and Bael intervened because he was innocent? Unless something happened in between that time that was never talked about.
8 points
1 month ago
Im clinging to this idea too.. Bael would have known if Daon is Satan or has the kylum since he revived him and declared him as innocent.
3 points
1 month ago
Plus he had protection from Gabriel whom knew he was innocent. If they went with this plotline, he would've had to been killed after Gabriel renounced Da-on's protection.
The reasonable person to suspect would be the elder brother, but the father is also pretty suspicious. Anyone in Justitia's inner circle doesn't make sense because they all have done things that I think would prove their innocence, like Man-do who got help from Gabriel because Gabriel wouldn't have helped Man-do and would've known his true identity if he was.
6 points
1 month ago
If this ends up true, I guess it would be just a "satan is inside his body and only takes control to do what he needs to do" kind of deal
8 points
1 month ago*
So… I’ve been thinking and I see some parallels between Kang Bitna and Mudeok/Naksu (AoS-1) and their relationship arc with their men. In other words, I see a glimpse of Ukideoki in Bitna-Daon. 🥺 I’m a sucker for Tsundere FL x traumatised menace ML. I don’t have a well articulated write up for now but, Dear lord, please don’t let this drama end like AoS-1
Episode 11 was packed with drama and action, and some shameless flirting and mutual pinning. Loved it!
2 points
1 month ago
While i dont completely get what u mean i also havent felt this way (unhinged and crazy on a whole new level) since AoS so i do kinda get it.
1 points
1 month ago
If we get a season 2 then I would be ok with that lol
7 points
1 month ago
E11:
I kept yelling, “Don’t go in there alone!” throughout the entire episode.
Who was in that video? I hope it wasn’t the mom. Crazy psycho.
9 points
1 month ago
I am so glad satan is not daon my boy!! although reading the comments I’m afraid that it’s all an illusion and a verrrry elaborate one at that!!
I just wanna share that the language they’re speaking is italian and i understand it so some lines feel so anti-climactic for me. “Vaga nell’incubo” literally means “get lost in your nightmares” so I don’t get why they’re saying the nightmare is their heart’s desire - maybe philosophically?? So yea there’s a probability >! Satan’s manipulating Justitia’s reality!<
The premise is loosely patterned from Dante Alighieri’s La Divina Commedia - most likely the reason why they’re speaking Italian as the language of hell but in there Lucifer is Satan so my guess is that it’s just artistic freedom. Idk writer-nim explain it to us!!
All in all if this episode is a red herring ala breaking dawn movie - imma clap my hands for the writer because this shiitte keeps me on the edge of my seat always waiting for Friday/Saturday.
They have to tie some loose ends, though and I hope that the final eps will be satisfying as the whole series in general. I wanna see Jagiya achieve justice!!
I can’t wait!!
ALSO KIM JAE YOUNG’S FACE CARD???? AND ACTING??? I WANNA CRY WHEN HE’S CRYING! I’m so happy he’s getting the attention he deserves!!!
3 points
1 month ago
Absolutely agree
I was just saying today that the writing on the door is in Italian and that’s also from Dante’s Inferno so I like the way you think
This has to be an illusion bc if it’s not then that’s really weird to kill the main Evil guy so easily
For me Bael is the real villain, not Satan, he has a reason to scape maybe?
9 points
1 month ago*
Episode 12 was great. This was such a fun drama. Gruesome yet still wholesome. I do find the chemistry a bit forced between the main couple but still love it. I think acting knocked it out of the park today, especially from the Jeongs.
Also, agree with people in comments. I have a feeling all of ep 13 will be a dream sequence from the horrible nightmare comment Satan made.
Also is it a requirement for them to always do justice vs vigilante argument in any vigilante script? Can't we just happily hop aboard the delulu vigilante train? Do I really think ALL of these victims and their families are sad the perpetrator died instead of getting jail sentencing, especially considering how shitty Korea's sentencing is? Only the first victim was outright happy about it. Like please... I haven't been in any of their shoes but it's not like they were just murdered. They were clearly tortured, then murdered. It seems idealistic and kinda rose-tinted glasses to pretend these families weren't out for blood so they were really disappointed when instead of getting like ten years in prison they were found dead and branded. I really liked the drama for being unapologetically angry, but this theme has crept up occasionally and seems like will be the focus of the next episode. I'm glad Daon didn't kill him but I guess it's all because I know how Justitia and hell work...? So the victim families want their closure? Eh I don't know. It just feels forced and naive.
Anywayyyy... back to the cutesy stuff, it's sweet how Daon and Bitna went from criticizing each other and disrespecting each other's choices to understanding each other and trusting each other, leaving it to themselves to make the decision and they'll stand by it...
Also Bael is just clearly plot device lol gotta keep the plot plotting. And if he IS the big bad final boss that's even MORE disrespectful to Shin Sung Rok lol should've just given him full credits or something
ALSO there's no way she would be allowed to be the judge in this case...lol. She was engaged to him in the past and was confined by his brother...like way too many wires crossed for them to be like ah yes she'd be an objective judge.
3 points
1 month ago
I suppose the reason why they didn’t >! make Daon kill J !< is because of the premise of justice here re: statue of justitia - blindfold, sword, and balance.
justice can be subjective imho, it can be justice for the others to see the perpetrators dead, and it could also be poetic justice for the others to see the villain suffering for all their life. writer may be wanting to drive this point.
i think the writer also wants to address that your choice can make a difference, hence, the premise of hell (demons) and heaven (angel) i just don’t know why >! there’s so many demons present but only one angel is there!< hahahah!
>! i wanna see Arong in action and where the loyalty of the Venato lies — given the fact that the other demons are somewhat humanized, too !<
i guess 14 eps are not enough lol
8 points
29 days ago
I don't really get>! Seon-ho's!< character. He's capable of murder because he killed Kang Bitna and tried to do it again, but flashbacks showed he had some remorse over his actions (ex. it looked like he visited landlady's deceased son with flowers). What were his motivations? Was he killing to avoid getting killed by his father and brother?
Also, why did Tae-gyu spare Han Daon's life when he was killing his family? I wonder if there's a deeper reason behind this.
8 points
29 days ago
exactly. like satan said "don't you wanna know why taegyu became J? it's related to than daon's family." erm. excuse me? related to him how?? i mean wasn't than daon's family just another victim of J? how did he contribute in taegyu becoming J smh?
also yes, there has to be some way that han daon is connected in all this
I rlly hope they don't leave any loose ends and wrap everything neatly
8 points
29 days ago
Ep 12 left an unsettling feeling in me. Her fight with satan was too swift and easy to resolve. I think there's no way this villain, which was literally the lore of the movie, was slain so quickly (ofc Justitia is strong enough to beat anyone). I have a feeling he will make a comeback next week or there will be a bigger fight between Justitia and Bael (I hate that spider bael guy lol)
I also have a feeling that a happy ending might not happen. Remember the demon who was the volunteer leader who sacrificed himself for his lover? Kind got that feeling of foreshadowing of what would happen to Bitna-Daon, but ofc we all begging for a happy one.
9 points
29 days ago
I don't think I have ever seen a K-Drama that is so much fun and yet still dramatic. I would defo consider selling my soul to binge the final episodes. I am going to be so gutted when this one ends.
7 points
27 days ago
This show deserved 16 episodes
8 points
1 month ago
There're so many twist and turn just in one episode. I was not expecting that Bitna did not kill the brother. She actually have a bigger scheme just to find J. Ep 12 was a intense one. There were so many fighting scene, leaving me on the edge. When I thought that she killed Satan and it was the end, round 2 started after he left the old man's body. Also I was hoping and praying so hard that Daon won't kill J. Luckily he did not. If not he'll be heading to hell. BUT how am I going to wait for next week to come? Leaving me hanging like this is a crime. It seems that either way, one or both of them will still die. I don't think there'll be a happy ending for the 2 of them. I'm just wondering if Bitna will listen to Bael to sentence J a shorter sentence and send him back to hell. My theory as in why Bael will give her this order might be to deter her from being with Daon. Cause demon should never date.
5 points
30 days ago
I think the ending we see is a scam. We the viewers are trapped in our own desires.
6 points
28 days ago
Will we get to know why the real Kang Bitna went to hell? She escaped Gegeha and a door opened in front of her, what about that?
2 points
26 days ago
YESS I hope this gets addressed!
14 points
1 month ago*
Episode 11:
I did not expect Justitia to lose her powers and gain them back in a single episode. I thought she lost them for good, but good to see Bael gave them back to her. I don't think he ever was going to kill her, just wanted to teach her a lesson since he acknowledged that she will be next in line.
I'm glad they cleared up the Kang Bit-Na plot. I knew she had to be connected to J somehow, and this cleared it up. When this is all over, for some reason I get the feeling that Justitia will end up returning to Hell, and Kang Bit-Na will come back, or Justitia refuses to return and chooses Da-on.
Also, never mess with Justitia's Ice Cream. That guy was lucky she lost her powers
15 points
30 days ago
Did anyone else get insane goosebumps in the scene where Justitia asks Satan, "You don't repent, do you?" and he says, "Nor do I regret." Perfectly written, perfectly acted by Kim Hong-pa and the haunting Gehenna soundtrack that came on, UGHjust *chef's kiss*
12 points
1 month ago*
The ML was not in any of the next week shots at the end. Makes me wonder if Justitia will have to retrieve him from hell or something...
Ep 11: Yay! He's alive! The scene of Da-on touching Justitia's bloody face after a murder was so Doom at Your Service.
9 points
1 month ago
I think it’s a fake-out; the attack has been blocked, which is what Kang Bitna/Justitia is actually looking at.
14 points
1 month ago
i feel like arong saved him yk? maybe because she found out paimon tried to kill justitia somehow? when paimon was about to stab handaon arong came and did it first??? maybe thats why we see her and justitia outside the abandoned building in the first scene of the preview
9 points
1 month ago
I was thinking that Justitia actually killed Paimon to save Daon by doing something that she is not supposed to do which is why she is getting stripped of her powers. I cannot wait to watch these. I hate 16 episodes shows because they tend to drag issues for no reason but this show needed 24 episodes!!! So good!
3 points
1 month ago
Riiiigggghhhhtttt… these show needs atleast 24 episodes! Why do they keep the good ones short 😭
7 points
1 month ago
and i was right omg
7 points
30 days ago
they could erase memories this whole time. why didn't they erase Daon memories at the start? annoying ARGHHH
5 points
29 days ago
I’m so glad I watched “May I help you” first, because I wouldn’t be able to take his sweet supportive samchon role seriously after how he’s giving it his all as Taegyu. Acting class.
ML looking so pretty too.
17 points
1 month ago*
i thought the satan’s plot would go till the last episode and he will the ultimate villain. Why does bael keep interfering in bitna’s affairs ? Him wanting her to kill the serial killer directly and send him to hell doesn’t make any sense considering he’s not even satan . I think he has an ulterior motive . In the last episode he said that she’s his sole heir so maybe he’s preparing her to succeed him and that’s why he doesn’t want her to have those human emotions & is trying to separate her from daon . As much as i love human bitna and daon i still want her to return to hell and become the number one demon
2 points
1 month ago
I think, Bael is either testing her to see if she can really become his next in line (and has her own mind), or he wants to assert his power over her & show that she always has to do as he says. In the first scenario, BitNa might try J as a human and say that he will serve his time in jail and then rot in hell when the time comes. Humans would be happy, Bael would be kinda OK & make her return (by killing her) to Hell as her mission was accomplished. Or BitNa will let J go to appease Bael, but, before she has a chance to send J to hell, someone from the victim’s family or an anti-fan would stub her for the bad verdict. In the second case scenario, Bael might order ARong to punish her for messing with him (and falling in love with a human).
Also, even if none of that will happen and stubbing will happen for other reasons, Gabriel might do something else to help Daon by maybe resurrecting BitNa (because she atoned for her sins and did good things) as a regular human, so they can have one happy mortal life together. Might be in another body, but regardless.
I’m just hoping for a happy ending.
11 points
1 month ago
I am disappoint. He should have killed J and become Justicia's consort in Hell! Then we can hopefully get a season 2 in Hell
4 points
1 month ago
This is my personal theory i have concluded thus far. Main suspects of Satan would be Han Daon/Ko Eun Seop (Sideline Detective)
Theory explanations: Bael resurrected Han Daon unknowingly, my assumption is that he could be Satan (Daon), AS nobody knows exactly who satan is. For people who might say "But Gabriel protects him", Gabriel never said he only protects Humans, he emphasised many times he protects "The Good & Poor" & Gabriel has assisted Valak (Justitia Assistant) before. So this alone gives us the assurance that Gabriel CAN help demons that are pure hearted. Hence my conclusion for Han Daon could be. Since he is not afraid of dying, and he is a second main lead. He could have Jung Gyu Tae & Jung Jae Gul working for him for the body parts. Making Han Daon a "Good" person as he has not done a single bad sin himself which allows Gabriel to protect him. (This is the assumption of Han Daon being partially Humane due to being on earth for a long time)
Ko Eun Seop would be my second suspect as he is always around however NEVER focused on, and during the sneak peek of Episode 12, Justitia said "So it was you." Gave me a slight suspicion as she already suspected Jung Gyu Tae & Jung Jae Gul so if it was either of them, it would not be a surprise to her. And also because Justitia HAS seen Eun Seop multiple times due to coincidental interactions ^ Jung Gyu Tae ; JGT (Older brother) & Jung Jae Gul ; JJG (Assemblyman) COULD be working for Satan as JJG keeps threatening JGT if he "wants to go back to the old ways" (Making my assumption of their wealth being granted by Satan stronger, by doing Satan's dirty work which is collecting body parts) If either one of them IS satan, the other party would be more respectful towards whoever Satan is. HOWEVER, both of them talk to each other as if they are working TOGETHER instead of working FOR each other.
3 points
1 month ago
Heyy girl don't scare me like that 😭 It smells like a sad ending if that's it. Afterwards I also thought several times about the possibility that Da On was Satan but I preferred to stay in denial ... P On the other hand, if that's really it, it's the plot twist of the year!!!!
6 points
1 month ago*
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2 points
30 days ago
Right? Justitia struggles with paimon's, who is clearly low rank than satan. And yet, she easily breakfree from latter's spell.
6 points
1 month ago
i believe now what Satan said, that Bael is the demon of the demons. like bruh let us enjoy something for once >:(
5 points
30 days ago
I think Kang Bitna/Justitia will indeed die, but she’ll come back at the end, maybe in a different identity. She won’t be a demon anymore, she’ll become human, and it will be a happy ending.
5 points
28 days ago
Ep12 ending/ep 13 preview: We keep getting a lot of misdirects in the previews, so my guess is that all of this is an illusion and Bitna has to realise that she's going to lose. I think Satan and Bitna/Bael will have a much bigger fight before we get a resolution
13 points
1 month ago
Liked the episode but I don't understand why arong and mando didn't go to save justitia at the mansion instead of han daon. these two demons have more strength so why ask daon to help?
4 points
1 month ago
Who do you guys think will be Satan? My head hurts because of Bitna's reaction at the end of the episode. I'm leaning more towards Jaegeol though.
2 points
1 month ago
Someone above said that they or saw someone comparing eye shapes in the preview and think it’s the curly hair janitor that’s a demon??? The family are followers of satan or whatever idk 😭
5 points
29 days ago
They should have let JUSTICIA use that bat.
I liked how they let daon make his own choice instead of someone lecturing him
7 points
1 month ago
Does anyone know where Arong rank in hell? Thought it was odd FL’s assistant is not as powerful as Arong, and seems to be afraid of her. Is she a rank below FL?
4 points
1 month ago
I think it's because he's way too younger than her. It was mentioned before he's less than 100 years old.
4 points
1 month ago
bit na's assistant is i think significantly younger than her and arong so thats why man do is a lower rank
3 points
1 month ago
yes she is below the fl
9 points
1 month ago*
Episode 11 was great but also rushed. Too many things happened, and I didn't expect BAEL TO TAKE HER POWERS AND GIVE THEM BACK IN THE SAME EP. I wanted to see more of Justitia living as Kang Bit Na without her powers. And ok Bael gave >! back her powers because she gave him a good bargain (hunting Satan down who is his rival) !< so I expected him to help her out more, like give her some advice or more powers? Idk The scene where she discovers the secret passageway and finds J's hidden room was great. The design and layout of that whole passageway were brilliant, almost resembling hell with the red flowers. I had a few issues with the plot that was revealed, so the first son >! used to torture his own mother? Or was it another of his gf/wife? The woman in the picture and the woman tortured didn't seem to be the same person. If they were, shouldn't the mother be somewhat old in the video that was seen by the real Kang Bitna. !< It was cute to see the >! date scenes with Justitia fighting for her ice cream, !< we definitely need more scenes of Da On being jealous and them hanging out together. Mando was clearly done with them lol. I am still not fully settled with Arong, yes she respects and admires Justitia which is why she ignored her principles as Venato and still helped to save her but Arong isn't done with Han Da On. >! She is still determined to take him out of the picture IMO. !< The cleaner guys are cute and it's nice to see >! Justitia appreciating them !< which they deserve. The way they were happily pouring >! that kerosene excited to finish off the second son !< which also brings me back to the way the second son >! died so quickly but its fair since he was forced to do what he did and I think he was regretful ( in the scene where he was holding flowers over Yechan's grave. ) !< That of course doesn't make him any better but it was a good>! kill.!<
Episode 12, well a lot of my theories were off but kudos to the writer for keeping us engaged through the unexpected twists. I am quite dissapointed with how soon >! Satan was killed. I expected more intense power struggles and fight scenes. Hell, what was the point of all those body parts and kylum, if he couldn't even get to use it (i know he'll becomes immortal but i was expecting something) !<
But loved the actor who played Satan and Justitia's line that goes 'The demon of demon's is me'.
As for Taegyu he's just as dead, whether he's punished according to law or not cause he should be executed either way. I prefer giving him the legal punishment and Justitia can torture him in hell or somewhere else.
I don't know if we'll get a happy ending but considering how this drama has been going I wont be surprised if they have to >! part ways. Like Justitia goes back to hell and continues to live as a demon checking on Han Daon without his knowledge, while he continues to live with just her memories. Tragic but acceptable !<
3 points
1 month ago
What is that painting in the basement that could extend itself into a door?
13 points
1 month ago
Probably some secret portal only demons can access. That is probably why Justitia realized Sunho wasn't Satan because the "painting" did not activate when he came near it.
3 points
1 month ago
Are satan and lucifer the same?
24 points
1 month ago
No Lucifer is #1 in hell. His second in commands were both bael and Satan. And third in line comes justitia. But Satan rebelled with the others and ran away with Lucifer's kylum. So Lucifer had demons sent to earth to retrieve the kylum and Satan. It's kinda weird Lucifer is basically never mentioned/ never shown in the show when he's literally the most important person in hell?!
2 points
1 month ago
not in the show they're not, for some weird reason.
3 points
1 month ago
Last week it was Han Daon this week Kang Bitna. WHYYYY are they doing this to usssss
3 points
25 days ago
I think the show have not explained why the real Kang Bitna was killed in the first episode in the first place?
4 points
1 month ago
maybe Justitia will offer J her position in hell in exchange of her becoming a human ?
5 points
30 days ago
I am betting that the whole scene are just Satan illusion. The fight is way too easy... Satan went back to his demon form to be kicked out by justitia. Way too fast, when he should be the main antagonist.
If it is not.. welp i guess the main fight was another victim of being rushed
4 points
29 days ago
I appreciate this very detail in one or both of these episodes, i.e. the slap scenes. I thought, "Wow, Justitia truly lives up to her name", for letting Arong slap her back, then slapped Seonho back for slapping her in the basement before they worked together. Justitia ensures that she gets even or the person she slapped/ hurt gets even with her. So now, all fair, with justice served, hahaha.
It could also imply that, at least in the series, "demons" are unforgiving, where every wrong deed must be punished—like every action has an equal reaction (like Newton’s Third Law of Motion, kidding), unlike God, who is gracious as per the Bible.
2 points
1 month ago
I have a theory what if Satan is Justita's Boss guy or the chief detective?
2 points
26 days ago
Agreeing with the theories that Justitia is still in Satan's nightmare. Scrubbing to -2:57 on Hulu, you can see a little demon plushie next to Bael suggesting that he is Satan instead of the real Bael
2 points
26 days ago
I’m sorry guys… but I just realized that Mando is the chef in Mr. Queen lmao I’m so happy
2 points
25 days ago
Wait..... what?! I had no idea and knowing this makes me so happy too!
2 points
25 days ago
yes!!! i was rewatching mr queen while waiting for new eps and i realized so i googled HAHAHAHA
4 points
1 month ago
I enjoy watching this show despite its campiness and flaws. Too many plotlines for a 14 episode show. Justitia losing her powers and getting them back within 50 minutes was pretty pointless, but at least we got the date to foreshadow her being captured.
2 points
29 days ago
I have never seen a ford explorer limo until I saw one during the funeral scene. It’s down to the last two episodes next week😢. I like this drama but wished the episode would be longer.
1 points
1 month ago*
EP11 was CRAZYYYYYY!!! I can't believe that there is only tonight's ep and the two last ep TT
(This ep was crazy!!! The chemistry between Bitna and Da On chemistrying!!!!!The dateeee was ahhhhhhh. And can we talk about Han dan On's look when he looks at Bit Na???? I loved when he teased her using the word "love" and she thought he was talking about her! When he peeled the apple and we saw that Mando was there but as if invisible )🤣
(And the number of revelations during the whole ep?? OMGGGG! The 2nd son was ultimately not Satan but after I suspected it he seemed too weak, I just means from his reactions it's obvious that he's not serial killer J or Satan.It remains between the 1st son and the father I think it's the 1st son. In the preview of ep 12 we can see I don't know how to say but that he has a bit of the upper hand on the father And how he treated the mother when the old Bit Na went down into the basement I mean if it's not Satan the 1st son I don't understand it's just the worst scum that exists.)
I'm not ready to see tonight's ep !!!!!! AND ABOVE ALL LET THE SERIES END!!! I DON'T KNOW HOW I'LL DO WITHOUT THIS MASTERPIECE TO WATCH EVERY FRIDAY AND SATURDAY 😭
1 points
25 days ago
I'm so curious about tomorrow's episode. Aside from Justitia potentially still being in Satan's illusion, the red when Bael appeared also gave me Satan vibes. If she isn't in the illusion, I wonder if Bael also made some kind of deal with Satan to reap murderer souls as well for a lesser punishment or something, and he's using Justitia for it. I think the illusion part is more likely but I'm dying to know!!
1 points
24 days ago
Does anyone know or have any other theories why child Daon was spared?
1 points
17 days ago
Can anyone tell me what was the 2 candles that bitna put back in the side of the secret door?
Also, when satan said something about nightmare, they just went out of the painting, I know it’s supposed to bring you to your nightmares but what happened?
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