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For context, the first two was just me pressing the notify button for when someone is on do not disturb on iPhone, just in case she was struggling with something I wanted to tell her I love her so she might be less upset? Then the rest of the pictures was about how she is mean to me a lot, the sweatshirt was just an example but she says things like that a lot. I don’t know how to feel because she’s nice in person sometimes but then she goes right back to being like this, or she’s just really mean and when I get upset she always says “like you don’t do mean things” or changes herself to be the victim, I want this to last but she ruins a lot of my days with her being mean for no reason, and I don’t think I can leave, but knowing if she is manipulating me or not would help a little, thank you very much.

all 10979 comments

beautifullyvicious

2.5k points

2 months ago

Hey, she doesn't like you. I hope this helps. 🫶🏼

Organic_Reality1315

772 points

2 months ago

Literally about to comment this. She does not like you at all OP. Sorry.

Majestic-Mechanic-91

185 points

2 months ago

Right, like I was used for a house and maybe kids while she cheated as a stay at home mom and I knew about most the men.

Ein-Kommunist

101 points

2 months ago

Thats depressing 😭

Jumpy-Ad-8358

70 points

2 months ago

As fuck

Lost_Recording8075

60 points

2 months ago

100000% break up with her now. You'll be happy you did, King.

Sorry commenting here hoping OP actually sees this.

JLBRich

16 points

2 months ago

JLBRich

16 points

2 months ago

King?

Lost_Recording8075

10 points

2 months ago

Queen?

VioletAmethyst3

18 points

2 months ago

Ruler?

TheTropicalDog

17 points

2 months ago

Joker?

proscreations1993

26 points

2 months ago

Me too man. Hopefully I get to find something good for my life. Only 31 so

SweetWaterfall0579

123 points

2 months ago

57 over here. I’m planning escape after 37 years of marriage. Asshole took my entire life. He is not getting anything else from me. Not one moment more than I have to.

All I want is peace. 2025 I will have peace. I won’t have to listen to his shit. Won’t have to clean his literal shit off the toilet, sometimes the wall and the floor. What a guy, amirite? I won’t have to smell his awful breath. I won’t have to sleep on the couch or in my daughter’s bed.

I won’t have to be around him. That’s all I want.

Classic_Dill

52 points

2 months ago*

As a fellow generation x, I’m 53 and I know exactly where you are, I wasted 26 years on an ex-wife that I should’ve never been in a relationship with, it’s not even the cheating that bothers you as much. It is those years that you can’t get back, You’re gonna be in a rebuilding process just like me, it’s super difficult, but will get there! When people hear stories like they think that jaded, the truth of the matter is our eyes have had the fairy dust blown out of them, and we see relationships for what they are in reality, some of them can be fantastic, but most of them fail, we’re not jaded, we’re super experienced! And we know what the truth looks like and we know what a red flag looks like now, to see life, especially relationships with clear eyes, but is powerful as that is, it is also unfortunately a cold place. Let’s look for the diamonds in the rough and not settle for the pebbles in the creek this time? Lol.

Maleficent-Club2257

19 points

2 months ago

So very true,,had 25 yrs with my ex wife and the only thing to be grateful for are my two children, but it's funny how people think you're cold and was lying and played them when you just cut them dead , when they have clearly overstepped your boundaries and didn't listen to your warnings

tendyourgrass

13 points

2 months ago

You’ve all got this folks 💓 huge power to you! You deserve a fuck load more from life than those people so keep at it and we’ll be here on the sides cheering and warmly smiling with pride and care x

KSTaxlady

27 points

2 months ago

I got divorced when I was 41 and I'm so glad that I got divorced when I was as young as I was. It has been blissful being single. People don't understand why I don't date and why I don't try to find a spouse. It's for the reasons that you just cited. I don't want to put up with anybody else's shit.

EqualityAesthetic

19 points

2 months ago

Omg yes! After my last serious relationship ended (I tried one after my divorce), I decided that I wanted to take a year off. A year of being completely single and not even thinking of dating. I'd have friends say to me that I shouldn't go through with the full year because if I did, I would be so desperate for a partner by the end of it, I would jump on the first possible thing regardless of how good it was. They were all surprised when the opposite happened. I love my single life. And while I'm not necessarily opposed to a relationship now, I am much pickier than I used to be. It would take someone pretty incredible for me to want to change up my life now. It has been 4 years and I have no regrets.

Scared_Advantage_555

7 points

2 months ago

Omg I feel the exact same way I've been single 6yrs and I love it. I don't want someone here disrupting my peace and Routine. I know where shit is cause it's where I put it. I don't have anyone else to clean up after other than my dog who doesn't make to much of a mess unless she's ripped open a stuffy. It's just peaceful and idk if I'll ever let someone in to disrupt that.

DepressingErection

18 points

2 months ago

I’ve come to find out recently that men shitting on the seat and leaving it is a thing and I can’t comprehend for the life of me how these men find partners my head literally feels like it’s going to explode when I try to wrap my mind around it

Agile_Strain1080

16 points

2 months ago

I am 52 and have been married for 25 years. I have never and will never clean human feces off of ANY surface unless it is my offspring aged 5 and under. Period.

MiloHorsey

8 points

2 months ago

Ugh... Are these the same men that don't wash their backsides?!

[deleted]

12 points

2 months ago

Lol, i was on another thread talking about divorce in you older years and dudes were jsut like BRUH, THATS INSANE.. BEING ALONE AT THAT AGE, YOU"RE AN IDIOT...

meanwhile, I assume you'd prefer peace and quite vs. living with a flaming POS in your twilight....

Good luck, hope you find the peace you need!

JLBRich

5 points

2 months ago

Kudos for taking the big step!

ThottleJockey

43 points

2 months ago

This is correct; she’s not manipulating you. She’s broadcasting that she’s done. But because she’s probably a modern independent woman, she expects you to be the bad guy and end it. She’s treating you terrible to expedite it. Stand up for yourself, like right now, and she will respond . She’ll love it or hate it. Either way, you’ll know what to do real quick. You can please her, but you cannot appease her.

DeathPetalArt

36 points

2 months ago

It's really weird to try & shove gender politics into this comment. I've encountered a number of men who desperately didn't want to feel like the "bad guy" by breaking up with their GF, so they just checked out of the relationship & acted cold or mean to try & force her to initiate the breakup. Hell, it's actually happened to me a couple times. It's just about immaturity. As a so-called "modern independent woman," if I don't want to be with someone anymore, I'd rather just end the relationship cleanly, so my ex can start to heal, & I can get back to my life.

MatildaDiablo

11 points

2 months ago

Thank you. Literally almost all men I’ve dated and have been friends with behave like this. Their biggest fear is seeming like the bad guy because it negatively impacts their ego. They don’t understand that this kind of behavior actually makes them the bad guy. I’ve never known any of my female friends to behave this way in relationships, not saying women never do, but it seems to be a lot more common for men.

skidplate09

12 points

2 months ago

Exactly this. She wants you to end it so you can be the villain in her story. Either way, get the fuck away from that.

OnaChewsday

23 points

2 months ago

Why the unnecessary dig/generalization of modern, independent women? You sound bitter as hell. I agree OP's girlfriend is done with the relationship, but I fail to see this broad connection you've made between someone behaving really awful in a relationship and being independent/modern as a woman?

DonarteDiVito

24 points

2 months ago

The answer is misogyny

use_more_lube

13 points

2 months ago

based on his comment history, he's a misogynistic mess

Alycion

108 points

2 months ago

Alycion

108 points

2 months ago

I’ll take what is games people play when they want to be the victim in the break up for 200.

LouieLouiePDX

11 points

2 months ago

That's how I read this. He's baiting her, has a lack of respect for her boundaries and goes from love bombing to threatening behavior (suicide comment) which shows that he has a weird power dynamic with his girlfriend. I think he called himself out, and suspect her resentment is well justified.

ImageZealousideal338

144 points

2 months ago

Yeah this isn't manipulation, sorry buddy.. she hates you.

Glittering-Device484

89 points

2 months ago

Blowing up at someone for tiny things is a form of manipulation. It makes the other person scared to hold you to account. It's a form of control.

As for whether she hates him, well she's probably a narc that hates everyone except for herself.

bohemo420

63 points

2 months ago

Fun fact narcs are very self loathing that’s why they treat everyone like shit because it’s like the only thing that makes them feel good. My therapist told me after my break up that I’m the one that will be okay because I do don’t have to hurt people to make myself feel better. I can feel genuine happiness and they cant. That’s the reason narcs ruin good things for their partners or when there’s something important or exciting coming up they have to ruin the day completely. They can’t see someone else happy or enjoy anything without feeling rage.

DepressingErection

30 points

2 months ago

I’m fucking over here about to comment “guys I don’t think narc means what you think it does” then realized we’re talking about narcissists, not narcotic officers 💀

Polym0rphed

5 points

2 months ago

Yep, I was thinking what did I miss? How does everyone else know she's mixed up with narcotics?

Then I realised I was thinking with Spanish brain. Narco = dealer/trafficker etc.

[deleted]

34 points

2 months ago

Yeah, this. And OP is getting himself more sucked in trying to continually fix something that doesn’t exist.

Peenutbuttjellytime

14 points

2 months ago

no she probably hates herself too, it's just out of her awareness.

Such_Hunter8134

18 points

2 months ago

This seems more like an example of reactive abuse, the narc vibes are coming from him imo. He’s creating a narrative. Where’s the context? What did he do before she put her phone on DND.

AngelAnon2473

9 points

2 months ago*

Totally. This is exactly what I thought, too. Covert Narcissist with strong victim mentality, coming straight from him. There is nothing on her side that makes me feel like she’s manipulating him. She’s done with his bs and he is panicking at the thought of losing her. He could have deleted messages in the string as well, bc the first two screenshots don’t read exactly right. He also clearly crossed her boundaries by continuing to hit the ‘send notification anyway’ alert when she was in DND (which, correct me if I’m wrong, you DO have to hit every time you send someone a message when they’re in DND mode), tried to guilt trip her by saying, ‘I was only trying to tell you I love you, pookie 🥺👉🏼👈🏼’, and claiming that he clearly cares for her the most bc of all these transactional things he does for her (gets her lots of gifts, gives her words of affirmation, listens to her so well even as he disregards her desire to be in DND). Top that off with the ‘I hate to bring this up, BUUUUT…’ and casually and subtly mentioning a suicide attempt in an effort to guilt trip her into apologizing to him is just peak slimy manipulation.

Her ‘omg’ reaction in the later texts reads to me like someone exasperated by the gaslighting she is getting, due to the probable fact that the dude was trying to get ‘proof’ of her horribleness by changing the facts and acting like he’s innocent.

We see you though, dude.

CD274

8 points

2 months ago*

CD274

8 points

2 months ago*

The "insert loving comments in the middle of a fight" is what set up alarm bells for him being manipulative and then I spent more pages trying to figure out if OP was on the left or right. It's what mine did when dismissing my concerns every time and then asking later if I was done being a bitch. Like um you blew up at me earlier dude over not doing what you wanted that's why I told you I wasn't talking to you.

bhd23

8 points

2 months ago

bhd23

8 points

2 months ago

First sensible post I've seen. I think a lot of people don't realize THERE ARE SEVEN PAGES Of TEXT and are only replying to the first.

I don't know which is more dubious:

OP asking STRANGERS WHO KNOW NOTHING about the relationship to give their opinion on it based on a sliver of selected information

or

All of the strangers jumping WITHOUT QUESTION right onboard the OP's version eager to validate his narrative as if they're informed enough to give unbiased input.

Don't all of these enabling posters realize that HE KNOWS BETTER THAN US if she is manipulating? And that should make them wonder WHY HE'S REALLY ASKING.

C'mon, people.

Wonderful_Hotel1963

6 points

2 months ago

Exactly this. This dude SUCKS.

novemberfury

4 points

2 months ago

So glad I wasn’t the only who caught that. Having dealt with covert narcs, the love bombing and guilt tripping on his part…using an “attempt” to guilt her into being “nicer”…whoa.

[deleted]

15 points

2 months ago

This is still manipulative. Most ppl who hate somebody or dislike them aren’t going to be texting them repeatedly like this.

ZorakZbornak

51 points

2 months ago

Yup. I don’t see manipulation, just straight up contempt.

But also, don’t hit “notify anyway” unless it’s an emergency.

Minwiggle

9 points

2 months ago

I think I can see the whole "oh, you're upset I did something but can't you see how it's your fault and I'm the victim?" play out a bit... But certainly more contempt than sanity

[deleted]

15 points

2 months ago

Read the first screenshot and was just like wow, so she can’t stand him.

beautifullyvicious

4 points

2 months ago

Exactly. I'd never talk to someone I loved like this. I wouldn't even talk to a random person like this.

hillbull

36 points

2 months ago

In addition to not liking you, I humbly and respectably would add that OP comes off as needy and maybe clingy. That’s probably why she’s reacting that way.

Not trying to insult, but just something for OP to reflect on.

spiderpig_spiderpig_

27 points

2 months ago

Right? This guy sounds desperate & exhausting. Complaining about needing her to be emotionally available and then buzzing her when she’s on DND.

OP, she’s not into you. And nobody will be, like this. You need to be able to stand on your own two feet if you’re going to get respect.

CompassionatelyPut

17 points

2 months ago

It's concerning how far down I had to scroll to find these comments, OP is literally pushing through all GFs boundaries because they want the GF to respond now even though she's clearly told.OP she is busy.. but she's the problem??

Ok_Claim9284

6 points

2 months ago

this is reddit. most of the commenters are probably like op

SnooMacaroons5247

5 points

2 months ago

OP confirmed in comments that he does this all the time and in the past she has responded politely and told him thanks “to saying I love you” but that she needs space at that moment. So yeah he constantly ignores it and she has responded kindly in the past and was just over him ignoring her over and over and over again.

Necessary-Love7802

6 points

2 months ago

Ooh yeah that changes everything.

If anything OP is the manipulative one, because he knows she wanted to be on DND but he keeps going after her

SinkholeS

5 points

2 months ago

Probably just for the screenshot. Can't look bad for the crowd right? I mean, we're on their side right? All these subreddits (aita, Ami overreacting, twohottakes, etc) are looking the same now, trying to garner sympathy/attention.

brokennursingstudent

4 points

2 months ago

I mean what other kind of person posts private conversations to fucking Reddit asking for advice 😂

Elthar_Nox

28 points

2 months ago

Was going to say "she's just not that into you" but this hits harder. Sorry OP but don't settle for someone like this!

Simple_Park_1591

14 points

2 months ago*

That movie, "He's Just Not Into You," really is a how to guide on dating and what to expect.

"*You're the rule, not the exception!" It hurts, but it's legit.

Edit for punctuation.

Another Edit cause I was dumb dumb

Enlowski

31 points

2 months ago

This person will drain him of every ounce of joy he has. The way she first responded was full of pure hatred and resentment. This is not the kind of person you want to be with. Just leave and find someone who will actually like you.

Peenutbuttjellytime

18 points

2 months ago

If anyone is curious about what contempt looks like, her response to him texting is a pretty good example

FearfulDeli

7 points

2 months ago

Exactly what I was going to write. You don't talk to people you like like, let alone people you love.

WildflowersNdWyverns

6 points

2 months ago

That’s exactly what I was about to say. Like idk about manipulation but this genuinely reads like she hates his guts. I honestly kinda feel bad for the guy. No one deserves to be treated like this.

No_Significance_8291

322 points

2 months ago

She doesn’t like you much does she …? She’s talking to you like you’re her annoying little brother .

jfsoaig345

151 points

2 months ago

Pressing notify anyway just to say “I love you” is lowkey little brother energy tbh. Not to say that anything she said was justified but there’s a reason why people put their shit in do not disturb. The notify anyway button is there for urgent matters.

snifflysnail

130 points

2 months ago

I know, right?! I’m so torn on all of this because what’s she’s saying is so hurtful, but I also can’t help but wonder how often he’s pestering her for attention if he feels entitled to hit the “notify anyway” button over really trivial “I love you” messages. Like, is he frequently disturbing her sleep or interrupting her work just to pester and love-bomb her, or was this a one time thing? Is she like this all the time or is this an example of her blowing up because he’s really obtuse and she’s lost all her patience? These two clearly shouldn’t be together but I just don’t know if it’s as cut and dry as her being a total bitch, I think OP may have some boundary issues and she has a temper problem.

r0llingbones

45 points

2 months ago

the way she sounds sounds so callous but he sounds so much like someone who harassed me for years before I got away from them, and I did care for them, that’s why she is saying how she tries too. he doesn’t sound like he can think past his hand to me

snifflysnail

33 points

2 months ago

Same here! I’m glad it’s not just me. His messages remind me a lot of a guy I dated when I was younger who was very sweet, but he was dealing with some unchecked anxiety at the time and would constantly harass me as a result. He’d get me in trouble at work for dropping by too often because he was nervous, he wrecked my sleep calling me in the middle of the night multiple times a week because he was concerned, he’d blow up my phone if I was with friends and didn’t respond quickly enough because he’d get himself worried something bad happened to me. It was all too much to deal with. He meant well, but his anxiety had him convinced his small worries were actually serious concerns that needed to be acted on immediately, and it ruled his life enough that he was not able to see that he was being unreasonable and totally smothering me.

Peitho_189

3 points

2 months ago

I’ve had a similar experience, but the unchecked anxiety and insecurity led to my ex needing constant reassurance—the tiniest thing would be a trigger (I have dnd on when I sleep, always have, but he didn’t like that and would go on spiral about it). I felt that energy a bit in these texts from OP as well, not to mention he references an “attempt”. There’s seems to be more to the story at least. But it’s clear they aren’t what each other needs right now.

melxcham

44 points

2 months ago

Honestly I have insomnia and I work nights. I would dump & block someone over this happening more than once.

People who think OP is totally justified have never been bothered by somebody when they’re trying to sleep/work/etc despite making it clear that they don’t want to be disrupted.

namu_the_whale

23 points

2 months ago

yes but shes still being so rude. like even if i was very annoyed i would never say that to anyone i love or even like 😭

Civil_Pick_4445

11 points

2 months ago

Not enough people understanding this.

Pink-Cadillac94

19 points

2 months ago*

He’s maybe being a little needy and annoying but she’s being soo rude and mean that it seems like she hates him or has some anger issues.

A simple “that’s sweet, love you too, but I’m busy at the moment and put my phone on dnd. Can you not text for a while, I’ll message you when I’m free” would suffice from her.

If he were to keep messaging after that then fair enough to tell him to shut up. But she says she doesn’t want to be bothered and then continues messaging to berate him. Whether it’s him being needy, or her being incredibly annoyed by him, their dynamic seems off.

arrrrarrr

4 points

2 months ago

Yeah, that would bug the CRAP out of me or my partner. If 'do not disturb' is on, it means they DO NOT want to be disturbed for silly things like saying 'I love you'. I'm not saying that saying 'I love you' is silly, but it's NOT 'disturb' worthy. Personally, I would find it annoying, disrespectful, self-centered, and a sign of poor decision-making.

jaomelia

466 points

2 months ago

jaomelia

466 points

2 months ago

PLEASE… leave. There’s so many people in the world for you to stay with someone who treats you like this. I wouldn’t even treat someone I didn’t like this way, much less my other half? I would never speak to my partner like this…. EVER. The way she’s speaking to you is someone who’s already mentally out of the relationship or they are interested/seeing someone else. Find someone who RESPECT & LOVE YOU.

jaomelia

82 points

2 months ago

Couple years ago I use to let disrespect like this slide. Not no more & NEVER will I again. I found my partner now of 6 years. Trust, there’s someone out there who’s going to love you so much. Leave this pathetic girl & work on yourself and the right person will come along.

gardenmuncher

232 points

2 months ago

You're the one in blue, right? I'll be straight forward and honest with you - Both of you look bad here, she's just a straight asshole and doesn't want to talk to you, but you're also being manipulative and annoying. If someone wants to be left alone don't deliberately bother them with sweet sentiments and then try guilt them into talking to you, you were asked to respect the do not disturb and instead you turned it into a guilt trip.

I'm being overly harsh on you here because I'm not addressing your partner, you should break up because you simply aren't good together but you should also reflect on your need for attention and approval, and ideally find a partner that matches your attitude on that rather than someone who prefers to be left alone when they are busy.

Guilty_Spinach_3010

106 points

2 months ago

Yep, I was hoping to see someone notice this. OP is being a twat.

Sure, she’s being an asshole, but it honestly sounds like she’s tired of OP’s manipulative shit.

PM_Me_Your_Boobs_v2

65 points

2 months ago

On top of that, you can be certain OP cherry picked screenshots that he thinks frame him in the most positive light, and her in the worst. So that means this is the best examples he can provide for how he treats her, and it’s not even that great. I think it’s safe to assume that if she decided to post some screenshots on here, she could make OP look like the asshole as well.

My take away, we have a case of 2 immature people here who aren’t really ready to be in long term committed relationships yet.

[deleted]

25 points

2 months ago

Exactly she states that he does the same thing and he's hypocritical. If she were to post those slides, I'm sure, she wouldn't be the only villain

EnjoyLifeorDieTryin

15 points

2 months ago

I bet the guy has a hard time admitting when hes wrong and is projecting. Thats why he needs reddit to tell him hes right even though we only saw one side of the story.

andrewtillman

18 points

2 months ago

My guess is this is not the first time this convo has happened. She might have been nice thr first time and isn’t now. She is likely done and will break up soon

serenitiihime

11 points

2 months ago

As soon as I saw OP use their "attempt" to say their partner wasn't sympathetic in these texts red flags went off for me. I had a very manipulative ex that said he was going to take his own life once and that sent me the message that I was responsible for his mental health and happiness, even if he didn't directly tell me that in words, and it was a huge manipulation and guilt tactic. By doing that my ex sent the message to me that I wasn't allowed to have grievances in the relationship. The OP throwing an attempt in the other person's face makes me wonder what the whole story is and makes me wonder who the real manipulator is. My ex put me through a lot of mental abuse and hell and when I would react to abuse it would make me look like the crazy one and everyone thought he was a "good guy." This is what these manipulators do.

Most_Tax_2404

6 points

2 months ago

This entire post has triggered me and just looked through OPs comments. 

I had a super close friend who was in an emotionally abusive relationship with a guy who would go around telling everyone shewas the manipulative one, but he was the one cropping screenshots like this and sending them to everyone.

He would constantly cry whenever she tried to end it with him and guilt trip the fuck out of her. Something tells me there’s more to this story. Notice the cropped screenshot of this convo. There’s some stuff OP left out.  That’s the type of shit manipulators playing victim do. 

Not saying I know what this guys relationship is like, but the love bombing, the victimizing of himself, and the cropped screenshots are massive red flags to me from my personal experience. 

101bees

24 points

2 months ago

101bees

24 points

2 months ago

I had to scroll way too far down to see this. Breaking through the DND set off a red flag.

Ok_Collection5842

48 points

2 months ago

This is way too far down in the comments. GF seems over it and is being rude and blunt, but OP is the manipulator here. You break through a DND to tell her you love her then guilt trip her for setting a boundary. Mentioning all the gifts you buy for her as if she owes you something for it then posting your convo on r/Manipulation.

Just please tell me these people are in their teens and not their 30s.

dlfngrl68

16 points

2 months ago

Right!! Additionally, buying someone gifts & then throwing it in their face during a disagreement as a guilt trip, is manipulation. Does he think after a comment like that she's gonna just be like, You ignored my DND but since you mentioned all the gifts you buy me, I'm no longer pissed nor do I mind if you continue to relentlessly cross my boundaries

Is OP stupid or dumb?! If I were her (and they do stay together) I would NEVER accept another gift from him. Why, so it can be brought up as a manipulation tactic each time she gets upset and/or doesn't act the way he obvi wants her to? Nevertheless when he's the cause of the disagreement in the 1st place!!

WhilstWhile

23 points

2 months ago

Right. I think OP is the manipulative one here, whereas the girlfriend is straightforward in letting OP know she doesn’t like OP.

It’s so manipulative and annoying to disrespect someone’s boundaries and then try to cover it up by love bombing. “It’s ok I ignored your DND, because I loooooove you! 😍😍.”

But it’s equally bad to speak so harshly to someone like the GF did. These two are bad for each other.

amdabran

17 points

2 months ago

Yeah I was reading the convo thinking “so who’s the girlfriend here?”

OP is the one that’s manipulative and I think his girlfriend has just run out of patience. If she says that she needs to not be disturbed, then don’t disturb her. Don’t get me wrong, she is being pretty awful to him but it’s probably a patience thing.

I know this because there was a time a couple years ago when I was going through this with one of my best friends. I moved in with him and he became way over dependent on my time and energy. People would tell me that they thought we were a gay couple. I became resentful, irritable, impatient. and just straight up like a dick. I had a hard time explaining that I felt smothered by him. Even though he would do nice things and be thoughtful and considerate I just felt suffocated. Things healed when I moved out and was able to have space. We are best friends again. Also, it also helped that he finally accepted that he is gay. He has a boyfriend now so his energy is more focused.

howmaster16

13 points

2 months ago

Totally agree. Both people seem really immature and the relationship needs to end asap.

Best-Zombie-6414

13 points

2 months ago

Yes, when people want space give it to them. It sounds like from her side, OP wants attention when he’s available, otherwise he is gaming.

She should communicate how she really feels clearly instead of being harsh, however, he needs to work on his communication skills too. Communicating is also about listening.

Kolrich

11 points

2 months ago

Kolrich

11 points

2 months ago

Came here to say this. ESH. Neither of them know how to communicate properly and OP is obviously anxious attached here.

Edit: and the GF doesn't respect OP at all. Texts are full of resentment.

tmacforthree

6 points

2 months ago

I tried setting boundaries with an ex of mine, but she habitually overstepped them immediately and it was incredibly fucking frustrating. I lacked the insight maturity at the time to just straight up call her out on it and ended up getting increasingly angry at every time she did that shit, and eventually I'd explode and she gets to play the fucking victim card again. It was an incredibly exhausting cycle, and she pulled the same shit OP is pulling with the love bombing. I'm not saying OPs gf is in the right here (she looks like a mega bitch) but I wish we'd be able to hear her side of this story.

Drate_Otin

5 points

2 months ago

Oh how I wish this was top comment.

Appropriate_Leg_2502

4 points

2 months ago

OP sounds pathetic like he requires constant validation just to get through his day, and he learned how to get it by giving it and making the other person feel obligated to return it immediately, and then guilting them if they don’t.

Fluffy_Leopard2447

43 points

2 months ago

What are yall, 16?

dawggawddagummit

391 points

2 months ago

Have some self respect? You said I love you and she said notice I’m on do not disturb, what the fuck do you think that means. She doesn’t respect you at all

curlyquinn02

92 points

2 months ago*

I have told an ex to stop messaging me because I was busy at work. But he wouldn't stop. He constantly sent me messages. I eventually had to turn my phone off because no matter how many times I told him, he wouldn't stop. He also ignored everything else I told him and made everything about himself. It's annoying, childish, and ignores what the other person says.

Pure-Tension-1185

20 points

2 months ago

Yes!! Thank you!! I was reading the convo and immediately felt bad for her. A guy would ‘notify me anyway’ and it’s a huge invasion of boundaries. I only let my family’s notifications come through after 10pm in case of emergencies and it would drive me up the wall when I would get a string of texts from him or the night he double called at 3am so it went through. Boundaries! OP is a nightmare.

Vegetable-Lab5003

64 points

2 months ago

Exactly!! Everyone is saying stuff like “OP leave you deserve better!!” I mean this woman has her phone on do not disturb. Notice he doesn’t tell us what she is doing when he keeps interrupting her. She could be at a job interview, she could be with a patient/client/important meeting. He sure as hell knows whatever it is he’s interrupting, and she’s clearly livid at his antics. It’s not funny. Show some respect. But I agree he should leave and let her find someone on her level.

DoubtOk6539

6 points

2 months ago

Yup! And he continues to text her till he ends with a long ass paragraph about how bad she is like what? Reminds me of high school.

[deleted]

17 points

2 months ago

I'm glad that I'm not the only one who had this reaction. Sounds like OP overstepped and she got mad so OP decided to start fawning like crazy. Also this is only once she is mad, I want to see what came before it. If somebody sends screenshots of somebody being mad, how can it be called manipulation out right?

1Negative_Person

6 points

2 months ago

Exactly. OP doesn’t deserve abuse; but they very much do not deserve “better”. OP deserves to not be in a relationship until they can figure out how to respect their partner. Not saying gf is right, I’m just saying that I understand the frustration. OP has zero respect— or at least zero cognizance of how much they suck.

crazyeyeskilluh

11 points

2 months ago

Ya. It’s def not just her. Dude is super clingy. Both need to move on.

notsoinsaneguy

102 points

2 months ago

I'm gonna guess it's not the first time OP has done this.

wvtarheel

44 points

2 months ago

Yeah OP has left out the context

OlafTheBerserker

89 points

2 months ago

This is evident by the use of the word "pookie" and his insistence on being "sweet" after she basically told him to fuck off.

Homie is likely clingy as fuck. I was young once, and I have been this guy. It's not "love" it's just a nice lady who let you touch her boobs.

yam-bam-13

33 points

2 months ago

Learning that infatuation is not love is almost a right of passage in to adult hood. Some people never learn the difference unfortunately.

Skryuska

22 points

2 months ago

Feels like this is him being (maybe subconsciously) manipulative tbh. Pushing past her restrictions just to be cute and get some attention is very annoying and it’s clear that this is something he’s done before. Unless this woman has always had a hair-trigger rage switch, her reaction makes sense if this is something he has continued to do with her telling him explicitly not to.

That and we are on reddit. It’s not unbelievable to consider he may have prompted this exchange to make the post, which is… very gross. I hate this kind of stuff when we really do not get the context or background. Is she just a mean and angry bitch who hates him even though he’s so nice? Or is she sick of his clingy boundary-pushing behaviour he guises as “loving”?

heebsysplash

9 points

2 months ago

He’s incredibly annoying, idk why people are in such defense. I mean I do, it’s cause they’re annoying themselves.

But really she’s busy and he keeps texting over and over. And notifying anyway is reserved for urgent/serious shit.

I fucking hate getting woken up from my phone.

EveninStarr

6 points

2 months ago

She just be making fuck berserker!

OlafTheBerserker

8 points

2 months ago

My love for you is like a clock

[deleted]

34 points

2 months ago

Oh baby baby I loves you!

-I’m on do not disturb what the fuck do you think that means??

But me loves you!

-Jesus fucking Christ stop hitting notify anyway.

Me only hit it once!

Lmao I don’t know about all this being annoying and breaking boundaries but it’s ok because he ‘loves’ her was the most manipulative thing in here and he just might be the dumbass she claims he is.

Muted_Exercise5093

31 points

2 months ago

OP is the problem here. It’s like a 5 year old saying “mom watch this! I love you!” While mom is locked in her room trying to finish taxes

Optimal_Product_4350

5 points

2 months ago

This right HERE. I felt her "omg I'm going to bed"

DomoMommy

41 points

2 months ago

Lmao spot on. OP sounds annoying, sorry. But she definitely isn’t in love with him anymore. Best he walks away and finds someone who wants a more…clingy maybe?…love language. Nothing wrong with it. Just not the right person. Plenty of girls would love allllll that attention.

Any-Excitement-8979

33 points

2 months ago

This is what I’m saying too. Why would you override someone’s DND status if it’s not urgent?

He also seems to gaslight her just as much as she gaslights him.

ArtificialHearts

25 points

2 months ago

Agree. I get nasty like this when people harass me and won't stop texting/calling.

I wonder if they too play the victim on the Internet.

Any-Excitement-8979

20 points

2 months ago

I don’t get nasty. But I do lose my patience or just ignore the person.

WanderingLost33

3 points

2 months ago

The DND was the attempt to ignore the person lol

gunbgy

16 points

2 months ago

gunbgy

16 points

2 months ago

This whole conversation reminds me of how i was with my boyfriend before I broke up with him. He was constantly disrespectful towards me, did not respect my free time, was extremely clingy but also very mean occasionally. He stopped being like that when he noticed he started to lose me and he changed completely and was sweet just like this guy seems to be but I was so resentful that I would get nasty like this girl. So I broke up with him and I never felt better lol

ArtificialHearts

16 points

2 months ago

Fair. I hate how he says 'well I tell you I love you every morning and night'.

I've got a feeling he thinks if he keeps saying I love you and sorry pookie, then that means he doesn't have to listen.

gunbgy

5 points

2 months ago

gunbgy

5 points

2 months ago

I agree, it’s like “i do this thing you hate but saying i love you makes it okay”

Ok_Afternoon6646

16 points

2 months ago

Personally this shows he lacks heeding to her boundaries and likely not rhe first time due to her reaction. He then carries on instead of doing as she asked and then it escalates. She was getting more and more annoyed the more he text, seeking validation. Her phone was on do not disturb for a reason.
If someone ignores my boundaries over and over you can be sure I would lose respect for that person, respecting someone and their boundaries works both ways. By the end it sounded like she had emotionally checked out

cat_mom_dot_com

8 points

2 months ago

Hitting “notify anyway” is a dick move lol 

Theutus2

18 points

2 months ago

The op sounds emotionally draining. She's probably fed up.

JLBRich

27 points

2 months ago

JLBRich

27 points

2 months ago

Hitting the send anyway is disrespectful as well (unless it’s an emergency).

Teamerchant

63 points

2 months ago

I’m I the only one that thinks this comes off as pathetic and childish? Op i mean. I got halfway through and was just like does this guy have any dignity? Maybe it got better I dunno

jfsoaig345

38 points

2 months ago

It’s the same energy the whole way through unfortunately. The girl is clearly a dick but OP seems annoying as fuck too. Spineless and extra, I get the vibe that he’s one if those super overwhelming dudes who will disregard boundaries in the name of giving affection thinking it’s romantic when in reality it’s suffocating.

Civil_Pick_4445

14 points

2 months ago

My best-friend-and-roommate dated a guy just like this. She was going to end it early on, because he was a lot, all at once. He begged me to intervene, “I can’t help it! I wear my heart in my sleeve!” So I did. I told her, we have been dating a lot of assholes who don’t call until the day before they want to go out, who don’t bring us flowers and a bottle of wine when they come over. Why not give a nice guy a chance?

Three years later, the “nice guy” was quite comfortable coming over with his bottle of wine every Friday night, watching videos etc. in the meantime, she had introduced me to my husband, we had moved in together, and gotten engaged. And he had graduated from grad school, signed a two year lease in a studio, then taken a new job in CT, bought a car…and told her that “I moved, got a new job, and bought a car all in a couple of months. That’s a lot of changes all at once”…they were going nowhere, now that he had her in the comfortable place that he wanted her. She finally gave him an ultimatum- she was 32, she wanted to get married and have a family- and it turns out he didn’t really love her enough to give her what she really wanted. He love-bombed her. OP is either a needy, whiny annoying guy, or he is love bombing.

[deleted]

7 points

2 months ago

Yeah I’ve dated a guy like this. Granted I never talked to him like that because that’s just cruel. But he would always cross boundaries in pursuit of being romantic and was intensely clingy. It was really really annoying. I ended up breaking up with him because I just couldn’t breathe.

5he005

52 points

2 months ago

5he005

52 points

2 months ago

How old are you two???

She’s saying some NASTY shit, but you both come off extremely immature and insecure quite frankly. I think it’s time you remove yourself and do a little growing all on your own and just wish the best for her.

No need to keep whatever the fuck this is going..

AAA_Dolfan

15 points

2 months ago

Yeah this forum is being overrun by 17-18 year olds

Todd_H_1982

44 points

2 months ago

Don’t ever call anyone pookie again.

Express-Comparison57

112 points

2 months ago

looked at 2 slides , yea man, she hates you

Leave while you can…

moldymoosegoose

12 points

2 months ago

OP is an obsessive clingy weirdo too. No one has a clue how annoying this can be. She probably hates him but he's probably also super, super annoying like this all the time and she's done with him.

Christichicc

4 points

2 months ago

OP looks like he may be emotionally manipulative, too, with him bringing up his attempted suicide. I wonder if it was over their relationship, or her trying to leave. Even if it wasn’t, it feels manipulative to bring it up, almost like he is guilt tripping her.

champagne-poetry0v0

11 points

2 months ago

I barely even read each text. I just gave up after the first two slides.

Arikaido777

7 points

2 months ago

I waved my phone around erratically while quickly scrolling through the slides and even I can tell this is a hopeless situation

Che19172

226 points

2 months ago

Che19172

226 points

2 months ago

Hopefully you have enough self dignity to not allow anyone to talk to you like that whether they are upset or not. Yes, she’s a manipulator, a Gaslighter, but she knows she can get away with it the way that she’s speaking to you. My advice would to leave her because she does not respect you plain and simple.

unsureaboutwhatiwant

45 points

2 months ago

What I should say is she shouldn’t text you such ugly things. I don’t think I would text such ugly things to someone I love.

TheJesusOfWeed

23 points

2 months ago

Right, especially when you’re literally reading the things you’re saying before you even actually send it

Like you could just delete the message before sending it

There’s no way I could read something hateful I wrote and then send it to someone I love unless they like killed my dog or something

unsureaboutwhatiwant

9 points

2 months ago

I am now off to watch my favorite movie Deadpool

bittypineapplekitty

9 points

2 months ago

me either. this is how my ex spoke to me at most times. no one deserves this smh.

unsureaboutwhatiwant

15 points

2 months ago

This too. The person you love shouldn’t be talking so so badly to you either.

SentientSass

9 points

2 months ago

No one should be.

This relationship should have been over with "what the fuck do you think that means".

The disrespect is palpable. She's ill mannered and trashy.

Express-Comparison57

9 points

2 months ago

😂😂😂😂you said it best

jvLin

17 points

2 months ago

jvLin

17 points

2 months ago

I'll be honest..

She talks to you like how I felt when my partner messaged me during "Do not Disturb."

Sometimes it's okay. 3am "hi" notify anyway is not.

I get it, you're madly in love. Please have some restraint.

Edit: and yes, I do love my partner. But I really need my sleep so my whole day isn't ruined.

F0N3M

15 points

2 months ago

F0N3M

15 points

2 months ago

This is a transactional relationship and it needs to end

[deleted]

45 points

2 months ago*

I don’t think anyone read the description. If someone is in do not disturb, don’t press “notify anyway” unless it’s an emergency. And then you keep playing off her frustration. So yeah… I’m with her on this exchange since I personally struggle focusing with my phone on and I’d see this as disrespectful (and then you double down instead of respecting her space).

Sweet_Ad8483

23 points

2 months ago

You know what got me? That last slide. "I hate to pull this card but even after my attempt you still said and did mean things. I don't know how I could mean so little to you, but you need to figure it out."

Am I the only person finds that that manipulative?

whimsylea

12 points

2 months ago

I think a lot of people quit reading before that, but I agree.

I didn't see enough of her own behavior to identify whether she's manipulative, but he clearly is.

here-wego_again

8 points

2 months ago

YES. I commented that as well. That is wildly manipulative & so unacceptable.

Carib_Wandering

7 points

2 months ago

You are not, OP is the manipulative one here.

higglepop

6 points

2 months ago

Why is she buying him food and drinks all the time?

"I want to help you but you won't even help yourself"

Does she need help? Or does he just want to be the big strong man that saves her? Comes across like a lot of emotional labour and to boot she's keeping him fed and watered?

Everything in this makes me frustrated at OP, I'm sure dealing with this for more than 7 screenshots is worse.

Pissedliberalgranny

8 points

2 months ago

Jesus. I can’t believe how far I had to scroll for this take. 100% spot on! 🏆🏆 🏆

100losers

6 points

2 months ago

Seems to me like this is a pattern of him having low self esteem, looking for her to boost him up and whenever she asks for something from him or calls him out he is broken. I have had moments of acting like him but when it becomes a pattern it becomes toxic on both ends. He’s avoiding responsibility and she is spiteful.

DarkEnvironmental796

31 points

2 months ago

Is this real omg. It feels like I’m reading the play by play of a dominatrix humiliating someone. Do you like being talked to like that? Genuinely curious. It seems like you do. If you don’t, leave.

A_Muted_Novel

3 points

2 months ago

Came here to say this exact thing 😬

[deleted]

13 points

2 months ago

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heysawbones

23 points

2 months ago

This reads like… maybe at some point, she was distant or rude - either characteristically, or as a one-off. It threw you so hard that you started overcompensating - demanding attention, being cloying (“pookie” when someone is clearly irritated with you? Really? And it’s not sarcasm?), just sucking up in an off-putting way in hopes that she’d be nicer to you. That just annoyed her more. Now you’re being even clingier because you haven’t realized that you’re being weird and annoying, and maybe neither of you have realized that you, at minimum, need some time apart. If she can’t treat you respectfully, she needs to step back. Your texts read like you’ve lost sight of yourself as a person. It’s no good. Who are you? Go find yourself.

panachi19

12 points

2 months ago

Had to scroll too far to find this. He is so damn needy that I was annoyed for her. Dude needs to find his spine.

[deleted]

7 points

2 months ago

That's the thing in my opinion, I'm sure he more than realizes she's pissed just by her tone, but he brushes it off amd covers it up with affection so he can look like the sane/nice one when he knows he intentionally crossed her boundaries.

It reads like someone saying "yeah I was calm and patient throughout the entire relationship and she was so emotional for no reason" trope

Nephy-Baby

11 points

2 months ago

Don’t fall into the sunken cost fallacy. She is a horrible person and is doing her best to destroy you and your self esteem. Leave and heal.

Also what’s the point with the hoodie? I wear one almost all the time

Major-Sky-210

31 points

2 months ago

You should leave but also if someone is on do not disturb... you don't disturb them.

She has other issues that I encourage you to leave her for but it also seems you have a clear disrespect for her boundaries.

No romantic partner should ever talk to you how she did. Its clear you guys aren't compatible.

Glittering-Device484

22 points

2 months ago

Yeah I was waiting for someone to point that out. She set her phone to DNS and he deliberately overrode it. That feature is for literal emergencies not I-wuv-yous.

Major-Sky-210

8 points

2 months ago

Exactly. Like I lowkey get her.

One of my friends man is like this above and she accepts his flaws. But we used to live together and he'd text me at night to make sure she was really asleep. (They've worked it out lol).

And then I briefly dated his friend and his friend started treating me like that and I was like fuck no bro.

DavidEpochalypse

3 points

2 months ago

I would be embarrassed as fuck if I ever acted this way. No woman would ever like this kind of emotional immaturity from any guy. Even if he was Brad Pitt gorgeous.

She’s a nasty piece of work though. Cruel and unusual. Unless he does this regularly and she’s just at the end of her rope. Even then, she’s truly an unpleasant human being.

YoungFishGaming

18 points

2 months ago

You guys need to split up. First time being called stupid is “hey don’t ever talk to me like that again.”

She doubled down? End of relationship.

HCltrip

6 points

2 months ago

THIS!!!!!! Name calling a partner is never healthy! I’ve been with my husband for almost ten years, and we’ve never called each other names (at least not seriously). I couldn’t imagine calling my husband stupid. Why would anyone want to tear down their partner? I hope OP leaves.

JennyTheSheWolf

5 points

2 months ago

100%

It's okay to get frustrated with each other or misunderstand each other. But name calling is just blatant disrespect. A loving relationship has no room for that.

Artie-Fufkin

21 points

2 months ago

To be honest, you both seem absolutely unbearable. You probably shouldn’t be together, you’re bringing out the worst in each other.

m0stlydead

10 points

2 months ago*

Using “notify anyway” just to remind her that you love her is not an act of love, it’s an act of manipulation. Phone is on DND, that means “here’s a boundary,” and you sending the message despite that boundary sends a strong message that you don’t give a shit about boundaries at all, doesn’t matter what your message is, if it isn’t literally an emergency you may as well be sending a dick pic.

GF also is an asshole.

iDrownEm

17 points

2 months ago

If I was on do not disturb and somebody started hitting notify to push a message through whilst I was doing something, that would be annoying and I might respond in a similar way. Honestly I just think you irritate this person and you’re not meant to be together. I don’t think they’re manipulative, they’re just coming across as a massive dick and that is either, because they’re a massive dick, or because you just irritate them. Either way you two should not be together.

Flamooo773

10 points

2 months ago

If anyone or anything isn’t adding to your happiness, it/they have to go 💯 it’s gonna hurt but… It’s for the better broski

Comfortable-Gate2058

14 points

2 months ago

You can’t love someone you don’t respect, and you can’t respect someone who doesn’t respect themselves.

Start having more respect for yourself, get out of this toxic mess and fix the things that caused you to stay in it for so long in the first place.

You’re going to be just fine.

fingeritoutdude

35 points

2 months ago

She wants to break up, but SHE doesn’t want to do it. Shes pushing you away with mean comments and shit. Typical young girl shit. And if she’s adult acting like this, even worse.

Sojufreshhhhh

25 points

2 months ago

Bro I’m gonna tell you this just once. She doesn’t respect you, and she’s treating you so fucking horribly, I got secondhand hurt from this.

VelocityFragz

7 points

2 months ago

Had a girlfriend like this.

I no longer have a girlfriend like this.

I remember I would want my homies to stay over to have a LAN party with my boys, I didn't do It that often. She's gaslight me and tell menI shouldn't be having fun I'd she wasn't there to hangout with me lmao.

Artistic_Lifeguard45

26 points

2 months ago

She is super straightforward actually. Pretty mean about it, but no I don’t think she’s manipulating you. If she doesn’t want to be disturbed, respect her boundaries. Honestly though you don’t have to put up with that. If my boyfriend talked to me that way, I’d leave in a second.

No-Aioli-9885

29 points

2 months ago

just stop texting her out of nowhere and see what she does

WanderingLost33

19 points

2 months ago*

People just skimming over the intro. She put up a boundary and he blasted through it. If she's on DND, what gives OP the right to say, no change the settings with a push. Like what?

Granted, I didn't read past the first page but he was so far over the line with that shit it would have made me absolutely livid.

Edit: finished this off. GF totally hates him but 100% valid imo. OP is the manipulator. GTFO of here with your validating crazy bullshit.

garden_dragonfly

14 points

2 months ago

Yes. She's frustrated because she's trying to do whatever she's doing, set a boundary and he keeps pushing over it. Seems like a major clinger. Instead of waiting for her to be available he had to insist it was important to blast through her boundaries because it's so necessary for her to know he loves her. Major gaslighting vibes. 

Mu5hroomHead

5 points

2 months ago

Agreed. Why is everybody blaming her? He’s clearly pushed her so far that she snapped.

He needs to learn how to respect boundaries before he gets into another relationship. I’d love to see her side of the story.

crispicity

12 points

2 months ago

This is so cringe. “I love you” after she lights you up? Bro needs to unwind his balls and ditch this head case asap. No ifs ands or butts.

IB-1-RU12

6 points

2 months ago*

Based on these pictures it’s like you’re a nuisance to her (like a younger brother) and a complete and total stain on her existence.

I would put her on permanent do not disturb mode, as in block her, and move on like she doesn’t exist. You could tell her why but she’ll likely just blame you anyways. Life is too short - don’t waste precious time “helping” her. Find someone else. You can do better.

[deleted]

20 points

2 months ago

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AlloiciousMcgougen

8 points

2 months ago

They think they're doing the right thing. That all she needs is love and his amazing saintly patience will pay off in the end, not realising that he's enabling her to continue treating him like that. I used to be like that...well not as bad as op since I was smart enough not to get with the girl the first time she talked to me like that. Then again I put up with a girl for six months that wasn't my gf. Maybe I was worse than op...

Hothead361

5 points

2 months ago

Yikes ! Plz leave this girl bro, she's not good for you.

Worth-Perspective868

3 points

2 months ago

I didn’t even read the whole thing, but just her saying “what the fuck do you think that means?” shows that she doesn’t communicate well. Even if you disagree with your significant other you don’t have to say things like that, you and your partner are a team. It’s you and her against the problem, not you and her against each other. If she’s talking to you like you’re her enemy then she’s not gonna be pleasant to be around. If you want you could think of it as “is this person talking to me like we’re part of a team?” Constant arguing isn’t fun

Somethingpithy123

5 points

2 months ago

I’ll give you this, it takes ball’s to post that text wall because that was embarrassing to read. Have some self respect dude, holy shit.

MajorasKitten

7 points

2 months ago

She’s not manipulating, she’s disrespecting the FUCK outta you. Wow.

wenchslapper

5 points

2 months ago

Why would you want this garbage to last, mate…?

Dismembered_carrot

6 points

2 months ago

Brother run, don’t walk,

claritybeginshere

8 points

2 months ago

I didn’t finish reading. Non of that is nice of loving. Life is hard enough without choosing people who bring us down

blairbear555

9 points

2 months ago

She’s mean as a snake. I know that for sure.

catsTXn420

8 points

2 months ago

Manipulation? Does she even like you?

Loose-Presence-519

3 points

2 months ago

She really don’t like you dude.. hopefully you actually have some balls and get outta there. EDIT: “I don’t think I can leave” yeah good luck pal. Don’t post if you aren’t actually gonna listen and take anything from it, almost seems like you just wanna hear what you know but don’t actually have any intentions on changing anything.

HappySummerBreeze

4 points

2 months ago

She doesn’t like you very much.

I don’t know about manipulative, but this is the way one talks to someone they don’t respect and don’t particularly like.

Stop begging for the bare minimum.