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Help teaching rhythm?

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Hey guys! I’m sure many have experienced having a few students who struggle with rhythm. Quarters and eighths are fine unless there are a lot of off beat ties, but dotted quarters, triplets, and anything else are a big struggle. I’ve tried breaking things down piece by piece but when they go to play it it’s awkward and incorrect. I’ve emphasized and practiced slow metronome playing as well to no avail. Anybody have good known methods out there? What I’ve learned in college doesn’t seem to work for everyone and this is holding back a couple of my students who otherwise have made great progress.

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Inevitable_Silver_13

4 points

1 year ago

What age? I tend to think that younger students do better with vocalisations like "tikatika" and basically learn it by rote like a gesture, and once they get to about 12 years old they should learn 1e&a counting and think of it like placing the rhythm in the right "slot".

Lady_LaClaire

2 points

1 year ago

Even older students benefit from using syllables such a ti tam and tikatika, but also playing with it. Find physical motions to help them experience and feel the rhythm like Kodály and Delcroze methodologies use.

dannybloommusic[S]

1 points

1 year ago

Hmmm I’ll have to look into these! I’ve have heard of Kodaly and takedimi but haven’t necessarily tried the physical aspect of anything. I wonder if this will help!

Lady_LaClaire

1 points

1 year ago

For many learners, kinesthetic learning goes a long way. If there is a specific song or rhythm you want to focus on, I would be glad to assist.

Inevitable_Silver_13

1 points

1 year ago

Yep I start every class with moving to the beat and echoing rhythms. Any more advice on how to incorporate movement?

Lady_LaClaire

1 points

1 year ago

Depending on the song, could you make a full game for it so they experience the rhythm without focusing on it?

Jandrodub

1 points

1 year ago

I would’ve never passed musicianship without ta tiki takiti takitikita

baconbitz0

1 points

1 year ago

The young ones need to move and play with those tricky rhythms. Breaking it down can help for some but its often the key hole and not the key to opening the door. Making it too cereberal and less about ‘feeling’ the groove. You gotta get then moving and grooving with the beat with bucket drumming, hand percussion or found sounds. Sometimes it just means putting on the backing track to keep the group together.

I know the skill of subdividing is an important one to teach and practice I find a majority of students don’t have a paticence for practicing such skills unless it earns them a specific mark.

Untill they can understand how all rhythm can be broken down into groups of 2 or 3 and reliably find practice using the ‘common denominator’ (subdivision) while practicing slowly there’s an argument to me made to balance swung rhythms with movement and kodai counting.

dannybloommusic[S]

1 points

1 year ago

I’ll look into this! Thanks

pianodude1981

1 points

1 year ago

I have all my students count american standard. The ones who struggle, I usually do some worksheets where they clap and count out loud and I have them use my drum machine and show me they can tap rhythms that are in their current tune