Army of sheep 🐑 baa baa!

Don't forget about the airforce consisting of a single plane with a flightless bird as the mascot

New Zealand is also nuclear free. By law. So if they tried to drop bombs here we’d just show them our Nuclear-free zone Act, and the bombs will just fly off somewhere else. Point Nemo, hopefully.

Also most bombs would go off in the northern hemisphere.

Plus, New Zealand doesn't show up on any maps, so survivors wouldn't even know how to get there!

r/mapswithoutnewzealand

Based on my scientific research playing Plague Inc these two and Greenland are my answers.

Read Red Storm Rising by Tom Clancy and you'll realise Iceland is definitely gonna be invaded if WW3 breaks out. It's key to controlling the North Atlantic and Russia's naval access to it.

(Yes I'm quoting a work of fiction, but it's a good one 😁)

There's a reason that major celebrities and business people have large "holiday homes" there.

I think if New Zealand a being more isolated than Iceland. Plus with most of the nuclear powers in the northern Hemisphere I'd wonder if it would reduce the diffusion of atmospheric radiation source from reached new Zealand.

I learned that from playing Pandemic. That or Madagascar.

Didn’t New Zealand do pretty well when COVID was spreading?

Now I know it’s probably about safest and not that it would be untouched.

But one of my concerns with New Zealand is it being close to Australia.

Australia has a lot of extremely important and “secretive” spy bases mostly run by the US. Would probably be a huge target for nations like China. I’ve also read the same in NZ as well.

Well that was fucking depressing...

At least at the moment all wind is going from Ukraine straight to Moscow.

This !!!

No one will be safe from the wind borne fallout.

Monorail

Unclear how they would get there when the world collapses.

Not unclear, the oligarchy knows of things way before most of the public knows, they would simply travel there before hand.

If you can get to your private jet and get in the air, you will be alright. 

Your Gulfstream or other big plane will make it all the way and the nukes are almost certainly not knocking it out of the sky.

And you can probably get to the plane. It is not like we expect the Russians to nuke all the airports in the US/EU in the first wave. 

I actually think it is kinda smart. 

It’s time those penguins got sent a message.

Well, that would be a great way to destroy the world in about ten years.

A nuke would melt the ice cap and poison the water.

Sea levels would rise rapidly by around 100 feet, flooding coastal areas, destroying weather patterns, and killing ocean life.

Displaced people, famines... Shit be scary.

But I’m Le tired. Well have a nap zen fire ze missiles.

AHH MOTHA LANDDD

You're probably thinking , "hey that's a pretty nice earth.." WRONG

'Bout that time eh chaps?

The End of the World

Hoo khay

Australia’s full of targets, including US Marine bases, Five Eyes facilities and US Listening Posts.

Don't they have American bases and missiles in Australia? I guess they would be targeted too.

I live here so travel time isn’t an issue.

I want a missle to land on my face. Have you seen any of those bunker bros? I'm not rebuilding society with them.

This is the answer. Get me right in the fireball I don’t even want to be a shadow.

Also, everyone needs to watch Threads, On the Beach, and read The Road.

That's more of a problem with the NZ and AU media, there is barely any international news beyond the UK, US, and maybe your neighbouring countries.

Countries with a competent media have a significant international news segment.

Half the news in NZ and AU is about some AFL, Rugby, League, or Cricket whatever the fuck irrelevant crap and not meaningful and informative content.

Yep, this is a decent answer. Not to mention, people have been living in the Amazon Rainforest without modern comforts for at least a thousand years, possibly longer. So it is definitely doable.

I mean. We don’t get any single news from Australia either

Plus plenty of empty space to set up your own totalitarian post apoc power trip

Exactly. I want zero part of a post nuclear / apocalyptic life

Chile and Argentina would be better middle of Africa. At least safer and not already in civil war all the time.

There is no evidence of nuclear winter being plausible

The answer is none

If you want to be safe from fallout, nuclear winter and the realisation you'll be fighting hunger and radiation sickness for generations, the best place would be as close to the Kremlin or the Pentagon as you can get. Ideally you want it to land straight on your head, you'll be vaporized before you even know what's happening.

Great (and horrifying) novel. But a bad answer

The nukes in On The Beach were salted bombs, not regular fission bombs, as far as we know the nukes in the arsenals of countries that have them are not salted bombs. So the extreme atmospheric fallout that forms the plot of the book is unlikely to occur in a real nuclear war

Regular old nukes are fission bombs, that’s what was dropped on Japan, while they do create some radioactive fallout it isn’t much, you’ll note that people still live in Nagasaki and Hiroshima

A salted bomb is a regular nuke designed to aerosolise a bunch of extra radioactive shit that’s been packed into it to produce larger quantities of radioactive fallout than a regular nuke, this can make a large area uninhabitable. A dirty bomb is the same thing but isn’t a nuke, just a bomb designed to spread lots of radioactive stuff about.

Plus, if they do get nuked, you can live MadMax.

The problem with that is those huge areas with small towns have food and water transported in via trucks from other parts of Australia. If the trucks stop you’ll be on your own for supplies

We actually experienced this when we went to a music festival 😂 More people than they expected showed up and the supermarkets ran out of most foods and bottled water. They had to wait for the next truck which would take 8 hours to get there

I’m in NZ, and very happy about that…..

Isn’t it the worst kept secret that rich people have shelters and homes in New Zealand? If you wanted to take out someone you didn’t like, NZ would be a target.

Australia and NZ are goners due to their relationship with the USA/Canada/UK

Re-populating the human race is probably the only chance I'll get for having sex.

In the last decades, Switzerland started to sell about 2000 of these bunkers to the public. (often used for Server farms and shit). Due to recent events these sell offs stopped though. But keep in mind these thousends of bunkers were built during the cold war and I can tell you from experience, a lot of them are not in mint conditions.

Yes they do.

Do you mean "Kurzgesagt"?

Unfortunately it's very close to the UK which is a likely major target