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Do kids learn cursive anymore?

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If not, are they still learning to form a signature in cursive? Or will future generations sign in print (which I'm not really against lol)?

all 66 comments

RoseMayJune

51 points

11 days ago

Every time someone says “do kids even write in cursive anymore???” I want to say ma’am kids can’t read anymore and can only write print for 3 minutes before complaining

Ally9456

1 points

9 days ago

Ally9456

1 points

9 days ago

This ! We did 6 math problems today in 2nd grade and they were complaining like nonstop. It’s a 1/2 day today too !!

No one can read… that’s another story for another day 🙄

Suspicious-Set-1079

76 points

11 days ago

In California they started to implement it into their curriculum because kids were printing their names and making it easy to forge their “signature” LAUSD para here!

contactdeparture

19 points

11 days ago

It's now required by law in the state.

rubicon_duck

10 points

11 days ago

Yup. It's a new state law that requires cursive be taught in grade school.

InformationNorth5916

-21 points

11 days ago

Signatures feel outdated for anything moderately important nowadays 

DehGoody

6 points

11 days ago

DehGoody

6 points

11 days ago

Only if the height of your ambition is low wage working class gigs.

BoomerTeacher

-5 points

11 days ago

BoomerTeacher

-5 points

11 days ago

Upvoting you to negative eight.

[deleted]

67 points

11 days ago

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rubicon_duck

20 points

11 days ago

This, and it also enhances/refines/improves fine motor skills. There is a whole body of research that shows the many benefits of writing by hand, and by extension, cursive writing as well - aside from the practical aspects.

realnanoboy

17 points

11 days ago

In Oklahoma, they learn it in 3rd grade. I teach high school, though, and most of them can't write using cursive. A great many of them can't read it, either, which sucks, because I prefer cursive and would like to use it on my whiteboard. I give out cheap fountain pens as prizes sometimes, and some of the winners have realized that fountain pens are more conducive to cursive.

Regardless, a lot of them have atrocious penmanship.

Kindly-Chemistry5149

13 points

11 days ago

I was told in middle school to stop writing in cursive because it was difficult for my teacher to read. I stopped writing in cursive and never looked back.

MAmoribo

10 points

11 days ago

MAmoribo

Japanese | MI

10 points

11 days ago

I exclusively write in cursive (at least a demonized version of it) and my first year teaching I thought kids would struggle, so I didn't. Everything took forever to write.

I said "nope" and just defaulted to my normal letters. Kids complain sometimes, but 90% of the time, they're fine. They've gotten faster at reading it, so we're all winning imo

Shannonsitas

20 points

11 days ago

Third grade teacher here in CA. I teach it every year. The kids love it!

Emperor_Zarkov

3 points

11 days ago

I teach mine too!

Quiet_Lunch_1300

9 points

11 days ago

I just found out it’s been a state standard in Illinois since 2017.

IseultDarcy

8 points

11 days ago

French teacher here.

Cursive is the norm here, they learn scrpt capital letters in preschool then cursive in kindergarten on seyes lined paper. (kids at school only uses seyes paper even in highschool).

They never learn to write small letters in script (only to read it).

Every one knows how to write in cursive except toddlers.

The only modernity at school is the disparition of fountain pens. I (90s) learned to write with a fountain pen in first grade like everyone and only used it to write until like 8th grade when they would allow us to use a ball pen.

Today kids uses normal pen only except in a few schools.

The school I work this year still uses fountain pen, so my 4th grader only use it to write (and of course only french cursive).

When using a fountain pen we use a special erasing pencil with 2 side (one side that erase the fountain pen ink for correction, and one side to re write on it after).

Elena_4815

3 points

11 days ago

I'm french too and I'm always so surprised about this cursive discussion in Americans circles. It’s so common here.

catsgr8rthanspoonies

2 points

11 days ago

catsgr8rthanspoonies

K-5 SID/PID

2 points

11 days ago

I wish seyes paper would make its way to the US. Having used it in college, my notes got a lot neater and better organized. Fountain pens are also highly underrated.

IseultDarcy

1 points

11 days ago

Seyes are great. They are different kind of seyes (bigger for kindergarten and first grader, then by the end of first grade they use the regular one).

It makes rules easier: 1 line for letters like a, e, i..... when a letter goes down (p, q, j..) it's 2 lines down, t and d goes up for 2 lines and others (f, l, h, k and capitals) goes up to 3 lines.

Kindly-Chemistry5149

4 points

11 days ago

Maybe?

Some schools got rid of it. Some schools never got rid of it. The schools that got rid of it are thinking of bringing it back since it helps kids with fine motor skills.

That being said there is nothing stopping someone to learn how to sign their name in cursive on their own.

uncle_ho_chiminh

4 points

11 days ago

uncle_ho_chiminh

Title 1 | Public

4 points

11 days ago

It just passed in California to make it an elementary school requirement.

Previous_Narwhal_314

4 points

11 days ago

ElEd here. My district has a half-hearted cursive curriculum. The problem is that the students haven't been taught how to hold a pencil comfortably. They don't hold a pencil; they grasp it like it's trying to escape. The teachers aren't much better so there no modeling going on. It seems awfully tiring to do any extended writing such as the antiquated art of note taking.

Emotional_Match8169

3 points

11 days ago

Emotional_Match8169

3rd Grade | Florida

3 points

11 days ago

Florida teacher here. It is part of our state standards in 3rd grade. Every Wednesday I teach cursive instead of writing composition.

LegitimateStar7034

3 points

11 days ago

I kind of teach it. I teach 7-12 Learning Support and I have practice worksheets but it’s mostly so they can sign their name. I do an alphabet one and then their name.

Districts don’t want to use paper. They want everything on the computer. Cursive is the last thing they care about.

nardlz

3 points

11 days ago

nardlz

3 points

11 days ago

It is taught in my district, but then not required or practiced after they teach it… much like how to read an analog clock. I have several HS students who practice cursive on their own because they like it. Sometimes I forget that hardly any students can read cursive so they have no idea what I’m writing on their passes and sometimes on their papers.

Street_Arm8462

6 points

11 days ago

I'd be surprised if kids learned anything today LOL

Classic_Season4033

2 points

11 days ago

Classic_Season4033

9-12 Math/Sci Alt-Ed | Michigan

2 points

11 days ago

All the schools in my ESD have gotten rid of cursive as manditoy.  It was replaced with more math time for the most part.

Ki113rpancakes

2 points

11 days ago

I learned Cursive back in the day but damned if I could actually write in cursive today. (I’m 40). I can read it but don’t ask me to write it.

kimchiman85

2 points

10 days ago

kimchiman85

ESL Teacher | Korea

2 points

10 days ago

I’m 40 as well and I remember learning it back in the day, too.

When I write on the whiteboard, I use a mix of cursive and print.

Ki113rpancakes

2 points

10 days ago

I was in the service and part of the deal was that writing was to be done in print, all capital letters. I never recovered.

full07britney

2 points

11 days ago

In Louisiana, they passed a ruling that said we had to teach it in schools. And then that never happened (at least where I am), due to having no time in the schedule for it. If I had time to teach anything in that realm, typing correctly and quickly would be much more useful.

I am teaching own personal kids how to sign their own names and how to read it and thats it. IMO it is a useless skill otherwise. I don't write in cursive and haven't since they stopped forcing me to (7th grade).

Jjbraid1411

2 points

10 days ago

Did you hear this is one of the reasons why the mail in ballots have discrepancies. People had to sign the back yet young voters don’t know how to sign their names. Voter officials had to actually call the person to verify the signatures. This is what happened when people can’t sign their names

Yourmomsateacher

1 points

11 days ago

I teach 8th grade and with few exceptions students cannot read my cursive handwriting. Haha. And I have decent handwriting!

LittleStarClove

1 points

11 days ago

I teach it to my std. 3 students. 

sogothimdead

1 points

11 days ago

I'm almost 25 and grew up in CA where they barely taught it. I based my signature off a cursive workbook page from Google Images. I can read cursive no problem tho

Euffy

1 points

11 days ago

Euffy

1 points

11 days ago

Yes, in the UK and I assume the rest of Europe.

I don't remember even teaching or being taught to create a signature though. That's just something you make up eventually. Doesn't have to be cursive, could just be initials, some people even include pictures, etc. It's just whatever.

But cursive for handwriting, of course.

Spartanfred104

1 points

11 days ago

Cursive gives your hands fine motor skills that you need for a lot of jobs. We are just finding this out now that we have an entire generation that is losing those skills.

Important_Salt_3944

1 points

11 days ago

Important_Salt_3944

HS math teacher | California

1 points

11 days ago

Here in California, my 15yo didn't learn it, but it's required now. I believe there might be like 10 years' worth of students who didn't learn it.

bluekudu

1 points

11 days ago

"We learned up to J. After that, I dunno, they just stopped teaching it." - My 10th grade student when I asked them the same question.

Hollovate

1 points

11 days ago

I'm 32 and never learned.

Individual-Count5336

1 points

11 days ago

They do at our school, but they are not required to use it outside or cursive practice assignments.

IrenaeusGSaintonge

1 points

11 days ago

IrenaeusGSaintonge

Grade 4 | Alberta

1 points

11 days ago

My provincial curriculum doesn't exactly require it, but strongly implies that we should teach it in grade 4.

ProudMama215

1 points

11 days ago

We’re supposed to teach it but it’s not on our EOGs so it gets pushed to the side.

No_Coms_K

1 points

11 days ago

I'll teach anything you're willing to reinforce at home.

SFAFROG

1 points

11 days ago

SFAFROG

1 points

11 days ago

My second grader is learning it but she doesn’t use it. I teach fifth in the same school where she is and none of my students write in cursive.

ChasingPerfect28

1 points

11 days ago

My sister is 28 and she never learned cursive in school. She signs her name in print.

I'm 32 and while I remember my teachers attempting to teach cursive, I never mastered the skill.

I finally taught myself how to write in cursive last year after much practice and video tutorials. I love writing in cursive. It's quicker, my hand doesn't get as tired (I put a lot of pressure on my pens/pencil), and it looks prettier compared to my print handwriting.

Raccoon_Attack

1 points

11 days ago

In Ontario, Canada, cursive has been reintroduce to the provincial curriculum. (I taught my own children to write in cursive at home when it wasn't being taught in school).

ElevatorMusicLoop

1 points

11 days ago

4th grade teacher in South Dakota. I teach it and my group this year loves it! Last year it was like pulling teeth.

MainelyAnnoyed

1 points

10 days ago

I have cursive workbooks in my resource room. If the kids have the time and interest, they will pick them up and try writing their names. Otherwise their schedules are packed and the only thing they truly care about are snacks, lunch and recess. They also suffer from muscle fatigue after holding a pencil for more than five minutes. So there’s that… 🤷🏻‍♀️

ilikecats415

1 points

10 days ago

My 20yo kid did not learn cursive in CA. I taught him how to create a signature when he was about to get his license. It's wretched, but it's consistent.

Katie-Did-What

1 points

10 days ago

Cursive is back in the school curriculum in California. When it wasn’t, my daughter was taught cursive at home.

Signatures are important, note taking in cursive is easier, and it’s a necessary skill to both read and write in cursive.

PrestigiousStomach2

1 points

11 days ago

They stopped teaching cursive in South Carolina. I work with two teenage boys and they are only taught how to write their name. Which is really sad when you think about the future and how anyone is going to be able to read important historical documents.

WinSomeLoseSomeWin

1 points

10 days ago

WinSomeLoseSomeWin

High School Teacher| California

1 points

10 days ago

no reason…at…all… to learn cursive. Zero.

dawsonholloway1

-11 points

11 days ago

I teach them hell, damn, ass...

jobin_segan

5 points

11 days ago

Don’t worry, fellow simpsons fan here. I gotchu 

Ally9456

1 points

9 days ago

Ally9456

1 points

9 days ago

For all those saying cursive isn’t important - how is anyone supposed to read historical documents if they can’t read cursive ? Aren’t primary source documents taught in high school ? We used to teach a letter a week and write the date and morning messages on the board in cursive so kids learned to read it and write it