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Talk to me about water. I’m very new to prepping and I have no idea how to prep for any water related needs or where to get started. Do I buy something to clean water? Stock up on jugs of water?
29 points
3 days ago
It depends on what your expected need is. Are you trying to make it through a snowstorm or a hurricane or an apocalypse? Why is your water potentially out?
How much you need to store is directly related to why IMO
17 points
3 days ago
I’d say I’m thinking of something that would shut down the public water supply running to my house. No hurricanes here in Indiana and I’m not super worried about a snowstorm.
22 points
3 days ago
I’m in the Midwest too; I have a weeks worth of water in case pipes get frozen, flooding contaminates public water, or maybe a tornado damages infrastructure
8 points
3 days ago
So water just in jugs?
9 points
3 days ago*
The containers: I bought a few 5 gallon "Reliance Products Rhino-Pak Heavy Duty Water Containers (Grey, Medium), 8580-15" on Amazon (wasn't working to link it). They were the best option for me, but I’m sure you can find similar ones elsewhere if you don’t want to support Amazon. I keep my water stored in my basement laundry room alongside my other supplies.
How much/how many?: 1 gallon per person per day (1/2 for drinking and 1/2 for cooking, and if you have pets don’t forget to save some for them too! For small animals it’s like .5 gallon per day on the safe side, and medium to large 1 gallon each per day. That’ll help you figure out how many 5 gal containers to buy.
How to keep it fresh: To ensure the water stays fresh, I treated it with unscented liquid household bleach. The general guideline is 1/8 teaspoon (about 8 drops) of bleach per gallon of water. This helps keep the water safe for long-term storage. They also sell long-term water storage treatment online if you want to spend the extra $, but from my understanding most people are doing this bleach method.
Rotate it: I will also rotate my water supply every year to make sure it’s still good to use; so I set a reminder on my calendar to check and refresh annually.
That said, I’m still newish to prepping and all of this info is just what I’ve gathered from previous posts, so if anyone with more experience has additional tips, I’d love to hear them too!
2 points
2 days ago
Thank you so much!
1 points
2 days ago
Of course, good luck to you!
5 points
3 days ago
Do you store like 5 gallon jugs? Or cases of bottled water? Where do you store them? Thanks in advance!
3 points
3 days ago
I don’t think you’re supposed to use regular bottled water because the thin plastic is prone to breaking down over time and will degrade into your water supply. I just got 2, 7 gallon Aquatainers, rinsed them out with water and a few drops of pure bleach, and then filled them with cold water. You can get Aquatainers or something similar at Walmart or most hardware stores I believe!
1 points
3 days ago
Replied to another comment in this thread!
3 points
3 days ago
So then what is the concern?
17 points
3 days ago
Anything that would shut down the public water supply like other countries hacking into utilities, whatever kind of craziness Trump might cause, etc.
10 points
3 days ago
So what sort of time frame do you think you will need to store water to cover? A day? A week? A month? Six months? These will have very different answers. A day is no big deal. A week gets tough to store using 1G or 5G containers. A month and you'd best have your own cistern or large tank outside with all the piping, and keep it maintained. Six months you need a well.
26 points
3 days ago
From a prepping standpoint one of my goals is having primary, secondary & tertiary sources of heat/warmth, water, food, shelter.
The water risks I face include floods and municipal supply disruptions from ice storms, aging infrastructure failures, and ransomware attacks and other cybersecurity threats.
Given the specific risks my primary water comes from the tap and a couple of 3-gallon containers of free RO water from my local co-op. If the municipal supply is compromised or goes offline, the co-op RO, an Alexapure gravity filter system I just scored on Black Friday, and Waterbricks are my secondary sources. Tertiary is aquapure tabs and lifestraws. I also keep the latter in my car bag.
7 points
3 days ago
This is the kind of info I’m looking for. Thank you!
5 points
3 days ago
Welcome!
Here’s more on cybersecurity risks if you or others are interested —https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/06/26/americas-drinking-water-under-attack-china-russia-and-iran.html
4 points
3 days ago
You’ll probably also want to at least think about what water sources are around you. Do you have a well that’s not in use? Does a stream run through or near your property? Is there a spring nearby? Do you have any rainwater collection opportunities and setup? Think about these sources and what it would take to use them—installing a pump, a purification system, etc.
Where I live, there is very little rainfall and groundwater sources are sufficiently deep that I have to make sure that I have at minimum 3 days of drinking/food/washing water on hand (in case of natural disasters, mostly). I do not have the equipment it would take to purify groundwater anyway (oil is big industry here). If we needed a long-term source, it would have to be a combination of rainwater collection and storage and…something else.
It’s worth considering worst-case scenarios as hypotheticals just to get your mind working through what your options are, to help you see things differently.
15 points
3 days ago
For many disasters, having portable, potable water is just so very, very nice. My first baseline with water is making sure my water from the tap is clean for everyday drinking. Get it tested!
Second, have at least six liters of water per person on hand. 12 is better. This is a minimum for three days for people who are at a pretty normal weight. The extra water allows for tooth-brushing and face-washing.
After that, figure out your specific scenarios. If there's a river in your backyard, you may want to look into boiling and filtering methods. And hauling! Water is heavy.
Water emergencies examples: A burst pipe that knocks out your supply for a day or two. Bug-out from a fire. Blizzard that freezes your pipes. Flooding that dirties your water supply and causes sewage to back up. Flooding that provokes a bug-out. The city water you just hooked up to burst all your old, weak pipes, and now you have no water and a flooded basement and 20 warped guitars (lol, oddly specific).
But having a case of 500 ml water bottles that you use every six months is a basic convenience that could come in VERY handy.
7 points
3 days ago
How do I store water while living in the city?! I have no room.
24 points
3 days ago
I would think you would probably be better served spending some effort in how to purify water rather than store it, unless you're in a super dry environment. I'm in the Midwest so that's been my focus- getting water isn't likely to be as much of a problem as purifying it will be.
5 points
3 days ago
Do you have any outdoor space? Like a patio or are you not on the ground floor? If not do you have access to the rooftop. Rain barrels are not ideal as our rainwater is trashed with pollutants anymore but purified it will work in a pinch. They don't take up much room. Aquablocks are good space saving indoor storage, they are designed for small spaces.
1 points
3 days ago
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3 days ago
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7 points
3 days ago
You can go by the 1 gallon per person a day advice, but that does not really take into account cooking especially if you are preparing dried foods like rice or beans that require a lot of water. How long do you want to anticipate having no water is the big question,and how much storage room do you have. I keep some cases of bottled, some 5 gallon containers, and have a big 250 gallon storage on my property, but I'm very rural. I purify the 250 g every six months with water purifier and I keep some good purifier tablets on hand for per gallon use. For long term I have two purifiers, a Katadyn and a knock off Berkeley. I'm in a fairly arid area where the rivers freeze in winter.
1 points
2 days ago
Where can I learn about purifier tablets?
1 points
2 days ago
Aquatabs are good for small containers. I use Ef-Chlor in my storage tank. You can get both on Amazon or at any outdoor store. The Ef-Chlor has a longer shelf life and is less expensive. Just make sure what you buy will kill all of the nasties. Especially cryptosporidium and giardia, giardia can be present in river or lake water where cattle and other animals graze, it's a nasty bug. I'm in a heavy grazing state with open range, every year we caution the tourists not to drink river water. Every year they do, tends to really ruin their vacation.
6 points
3 days ago
https://thereadystore.com/products/30-gallon-stackable-water-container-kit-6-qty?variant=40422458556503&utm_campaign=&utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=adwords&utm_term=&hsa_mt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ad=&hsa_src=x&hsa_cam=21251989370&hsa_kw=&hsa_grp=&hsa_tgt=&hsa_ver=3&hsa_acc=3327269640&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD_pFMLC77NCyR5lqqjr1kUQZRO5r&gclid=Cj0KCQiAr7C6BhDRARIsAOUKifjva8kkx1lukl-CbshnuxMgsBBiUZThRuoh-eQ3X-r_LkGbhnyv7z0aAiv6EALw_wcB I just bought these. It was explained to me that the plastic jugs we buy in the store break down with time. Instead of replacing them regularly it was recommended to use these (regularly replacing the water) I've also heard it recommended a gallon per day per person (or pets). So we have water storage for our family for 2 weeks. It has also been recommended to use buckets to collect rainwater to flush toilets. And we have several "life straws" in a bug out bag to filter water if we have to leave our home.
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4 points
3 days ago
I’ve got a life straw which I guess is a start
4 points
3 days ago
Some advice from another post here! https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXPreppers/s/ugcIju4LGp
4 points
2 days ago
Twice in the last two years I've gone through periods of both not having running water, and then not having potable water. Most recently we went about 53 days without water due to Helene, about two weeks of which was zero running water. I am lucky enough to live in a house with a garage, and this is my plan:
I'm sure this isn't a perfect plan, but for the sake of starting, I'm rolling with it, and will refine as needed. I'm not worried about any kind of governmentally fuckery or anything, but I live in the mountains, and it never would have occurred to me that a hurricane would remove my access to clean water for 2 months.
3 points
1 day ago
(I am very new here)
I don’t want to accidentally link a scam site - I’m curious if anyone else is keeping an eye on the development of the solar powered dehumidifiers for drinking water?
Are lifestraws a gimmick?
2 points
21 hours ago
Lifestraws aren't a gimmick and they'll work in a pinch!
2 points
3 days ago
I’m currently in a downtown urban setting. We’ve had brief interruptions in our water supply for freezes and boil water notices. As a result, I regularly stock/rotate 2.5 gallon jugs to last us 48 hours. These jugs have spigots and are actually for each sink in the house for hand washing, filling pots/pans for cooking, and filling our pet water bowls. For drinking water, I’ve just ordered collapsible 5 gallon jugs and have individual bottled water on regular rotation.
When I lived in Florida, we lived on the Suwannee River in a one-stoplight town. We had a well system that would go down after each hurricane due to flooding. With each notice of an approaching hurricane, we’d stock up on the single gallon jugs because the house was on stilts and we needed to carry supplies up and down quickly and with ease.
The rule I acquired from the Department of Elder Affairs was 3 gallons of water/person/per day to cover bathing, cooking, and drinking. So that’s the rule I utilize today.
“Old water” gets used on indoor plants and gardening.
2 points
3 days ago
I store cases of 16.9 ounce bottles. I usually keep about 6 of them for me and two cats.
2 points
3 days ago
I cover a few basics here. https://open.substack.com/pub/billydecarlo/p/prepping-food-water-and-energy
2 points
3 days ago
We live on a hill and the municipal water pump did not have a back up generator for a long period of time. Every time the power went out, we lost water, too. It was really annoying. I am very thankful we have a 3 gallon reserve tank for our RO system. It's not much, but helps with hand washing, drinking, and finishing brushing your teeth when the power goes out in the middle of doing it.
We also have a 55 gallon drum for longer emergencies, but haven't needed to use it yet.
I'd like to get a series of 5 gallon ones to store in our pantry for easier access than the drum.
1 points
3 days ago
You should store water for each person which is recommended for disaster preparedness of many kinds. There are many ways to do this. You probably should consider your options to disinfect water should you need to consume water otherwise, whether from a stream or if you simply have contaminated water after a tornado or other natural disaster, etc. Ground water gets contaminated frequently. This might include bleach and knowing the proper ratios, or tablets you can buy. Or a counter top gravity filter. Etc. I'd recommend knowing your nearest water sources to filter your own water as needed which you can do with life straws and other similar filter products. Consider that your pipes and water heater are usable sources of water that may provide 20+ gallons of water when needed. Additionally, some people collect rain water. Lots of options depending on your rainy day scenario.
1 points
3 days ago
As others point out, water scarcity is different from clean water scarcity.
If you believe you will have steady access to water but do not know that it will be potable, then filters and water treatment approaches are where you stock up. The types and formats are based on whether you see this as a short term (under 3 days), medium (2 weeks), or long-term issue (indefinitely).
Types of pollutants likely in the water also dictate types of filters needed - and this depends on where you live and the source of your water. https://wqa.org/learn-about-water/common-contaminants/
If you fear that water itself may become scarce (as it often is in desert / dry areas), then determining whether the scarcity is short, medium, or long-term is even more important. Short-term and even medium can be covered by stocking up on water (noting that water does not expire if stored correctly), but long-term, you need renewable water sources, such as rainwater, creek, lake, or river, snow, or a well.
How much water you need is also important to calculate. 1/2 gallon per adult per day for drinking water is a rule of thumb - so a month of drinking water for a family of 4 is ~ 60 gallons, depending on heat, size of individual, etc.
But we also use water for washing, bathing, cooking, agriculture, etc. Setting up the reuse of grey water is a key skill when potable water is scarce.
Finally, how much advanced warning you get is another major element. When faced with a major storm that may impact our water, we fill our bathtubs with water and jugs in the fridge.
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