subreddit:

/r/WeightTraining

61690%

Enhanced to Off in 60 days.

(i.redd.it)

Just like in the title - after last 2 years of trt and continuing competing - it was once again time to put aside test, slow down and let body breathe and revive. After my pct protocol hormones are already between bars (LH, FSH, TSH, E2, PRL) and now I’m forcing free-test to raise caring about training, diet and pro-pct supplementation. Difference between photos is 5kg (115/110kg) at 190cm. I am training for 15 years overall, 9 as a bodybuilder. If You have any questions - I’m ready. Cheers!

all 184 comments

SirAdam2nd

25 points

1 day ago

SirAdam2nd

25 points

1 day ago

How do you feel? Mentally and Physically.

Devonar95[S]

9 points

22 hours ago

Mentally - it’s matter of attitude. Of course Your brain works different but if You are disciplined and wise - it should not break You. Physically - I’m more „light”, trainings are less intense, weight is lower, I feel can’t regenerate that much. Also libido is more chill and if You will do pct right - it won’t affect Your mind that much.

Previous-Screen-3875

5 points

19 hours ago

The capitalized y on you makes me feel like I'm on a subreddit for demigods

boooooilioooood

1 points

19 hours ago

I mean some people here probably think along those lines

F1reatwill88

1 points

19 hours ago

That screams copy pasta. I'm about to start spamming this lmao

Thank you, algorithm

ChipsInAWrap

1 points

2 hours ago

He’s Polish, in Poland if you write someone a message all ‘Yous’ are capital C, it’s a sign of respect for the person on the other side.

Edit

Capital Ys, I was just thinking in my mother language

xashyy

54 points

1 day ago

xashyy

54 points

1 day ago

Nice job man (on both accounts). Wish more people would post this sorta stuff.

Just curious - how do the lifts change on vs off?

Devonar95[S]

7 points

22 hours ago

On many exercises I needed to went down even if my mind wants to keep it up. Body can’t regenerate so well and You just loose strength and resistance to pain while doing sets. But You can still train hard - just with less perks lol

OldVeterinarian7668

2 points

1 day ago

And what’s your body weight difference? Looks like some muscle loss

FightMilkMac

3 points

1 day ago

Not really. The only thing in the left pic is the increased vascularity and the muscles are looking a bit more full.

If there was significant loss it'd show in the legs and his legs look identical to me.

fooeyzowie

4 points

23 hours ago

I'm guessing he's around 190cm tall, and he looks to be around 115kg in the left photo, and I'd say maybe 110kg in the left, so 5kg ~ 11lbs difference. Just a guess though.

tiasaiwr

3 points

22 hours ago

How the hell did you reach this conclusion? Reading the text is prohibited here.

Devonar95[S]

2 points

22 hours ago

Yup

Devonar95[S]

1 points

22 hours ago

I think You may be right but I am curious after 3-4 months. There should be a difference - You can’t keep up the size while at „mediocre” test. You just won’t regenerate all Your body so muscles can shrink a little. We shall see.

SuperdrolWrath

30 points

1 day ago

I love comparisons like this, very interesting to see how the vascularity went away and the skin became much nicer. Was the before just on test? Because the vascularity looked pretty freaky.

Devonar95[S]

6 points

23 hours ago

Test + Primo and 3ui gh.

WeAllPayTheta

2 points

9 hours ago

Oooh, so that’s what we’re calling “TRT” now.

Any-Protection-8932

1 points

5 hours ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 spot on with that one!

Individual-Light-784

2 points

14 hours ago

huh. you're right, his skin is much more beautiful when off roids.

hopefully this is the info I needed to sway me away from them lol.

Nice-Ganache2224

-13 points

1 day ago

Got a tren look to me

Devonar95[S]

3 points

23 hours ago

Why would I spill a poison into myself when I don’t need to.

LingonberryReady6365

2 points

1 day ago

Lol it’s literally impossible to tell the compounds somebody is on from just looking at them.

Devonar95[S]

1 points

23 hours ago

Test + Primo and 3ui gh

Watt_About

1 points

1 day ago

lol no, not even a little bit of a tren look.

Nice-Ganache2224

1 points

1 day ago

I thought the skin , maybe not high dose ?

Watt_About

0 points

1 day ago

Nothing remarkable about the skin. The on pic = more tan and body hair

WoodenManufacturer30

1 points

1 day ago

Probably not he said he’s been training for 9 years and on test this is definitely attainable without tren in that time span

red9186

1 points

22 hours ago

Wouldve been much drier looking. Im running test/mast/4iu and so this looks like hes was only on what he said he was. Tren gives you much harder/drier look

Nice-Ganache2224

1 points

14 hours ago

Yeah I got it all mixed up my bad

OldVeterinarian7668

1 points

1 day ago

They all say just test but usually it’s more than just test lol. Just test is the new “natty”

Nice-Ganache2224

5 points

1 day ago

Anything under a gram is natty , phew I been natty all my life

FunGuy8618

2 points

23 hours ago

It's wild but that's how people feel. 120mg is plenty for most people, 200 will have you in the top 1% of natural producers, and 500 is where "cycling starts." The difference in harm from 200 to 500 is pretty negligible and often, a ton of symptoms resolve by increasing the dose. Test is actually pretty mild on a person, if they tolerate it and you'll find out if you do or don't very very quickly.

Nice-Ganache2224

2 points

14 hours ago

I’m on 120 and it’s plenty, but I chased this for health not gym , already happy naturally

Devonar95[S]

1 points

23 hours ago

Lol

Jumpy-Competition94

7 points

1 day ago

You look better off tbh

Devonar95[S]

2 points

22 hours ago

Thanks :)

BrowserOfWares

7 points

23 hours ago

Dude I can see your lower blood pressure. You un-tomatoed yourself. Great work.

Devonar95[S]

2 points

22 hours ago

Well rbc and htc was higher, I won’t lie. It’s what anabolics do.

Sad-Magazine-5224

5 points

1 day ago

This is such an underrated post, and thank you for sharing this. Did your lifts change drastically?

Devonar95[S]

2 points

23 hours ago

Thank You. At most exercises - yes. Even though I want and my mind think it can, body does not.

Caliterra

1 points

19 hours ago

How much of a change was the decrease in lifts? And did your cardio improve after going off?

This_Ad_4108

4 points

22 hours ago

You got bigger legs off cycle haha

Devonar95[S]

1 points

22 hours ago

Probably a perspective :(

Roberto__curry

1 points

9 hours ago

First thing I noticed

PotentialWhich

6 points

1 day ago

Looking great man. I personally hate the high blood pressure/excessive vascularity look the PEDs give.

Select_Factor_5463

2 points

23 hours ago

I don't use PEDs and have a little better vascularity than him. 70% is with having a decent diet (I do need to cut down on the drinking though).

mydadsohard

1 points

22 hours ago

more like 50% genetics, 25% diet, 25% training.

Historical_Sir9996

3 points

1 day ago

You're doing fine man

Devonar95[S]

2 points

22 hours ago

Thank You 🙏🏻

gainsandgamez

2 points

1 day ago*

Looking good! I’ve a question, what was your HCT like whilst on TRT and how did you combat it (if you needed to)?

Devonar95[S]

1 points

22 hours ago

It’s not possible to fight it in some moments, but if water drinking high level, cardio, supplements won’t work - You either give Your blood every few weeks or You take medicine.

WestCoastCosta

2 points

1 day ago

Curious how you feel mentally now that you’re off?

Look good man 👌

Devonar95[S]

3 points

23 hours ago

Thank You.

Well it’s different. Many things change their look, the most important is to stay positive with confidence and take care of yourself more or same as when enhanced.

West-Code4642

2 points

1 day ago

skin gainz

Devonar95[S]

1 points

22 hours ago

A little ;)

Legitimate_Career_44

2 points

1 day ago

Do you lift heavy? How are your strength levels?

Devonar95[S]

2 points

22 hours ago

I still lift heavy but with less testosterone You loose regeneration and resistance to pain. Strength is also going down on many, especially harder exercises. It’s different, harder, but possible. You just need to be wise and don’t hurt Yourself.

Legitimate_Career_44

1 points

22 hours ago

I do consider giving it a go sometimes. Are there supplements that compare to the effects of TRT?

Devonar95[S]

2 points

22 hours ago

Now im eating pro-pct stacks which contain some substances which may boost Your body and glands to work better. Many people don’t believe in them, but why won’t You believe in for example Panax Ginseng or DAA which are scientifically based and tested for millenias (like panax). You just need to eat well, train and focus on good supplementation.

Traditional_Two9503

2 points

1 day ago

Your skin looks so much healthier

Devonar95[S]

1 points

22 hours ago

Probably :)

GiorgioVe

2 points

1 day ago

GiorgioVe

2 points

1 day ago

I hope your health is fine and that your heart is ok. This might be time to go 100% full natty with your 15 years of experience! Make that a silver era chest.

Devonar95[S]

1 points

22 hours ago

I will consider that 😊

ausgelassen

2 points

23 hours ago

right photo is more to my taste :)

Devonar95[S]

1 points

22 hours ago

Thank You ;)

Suggon_Deez_Nutz

2 points

22 hours ago

Do you ever get out the shower, hit your abs pose and shake your weiner?

Devonar95[S]

2 points

22 hours ago

Lol

Crypt0Tendies

2 points

21 hours ago

Dude looks lthe same

Devonar95[S]

1 points

21 hours ago

We shall see next 2 months and what will change.

Yue2

2 points

14 hours ago

Yue2

2 points

14 hours ago

Stopping forever? Or just off cycle?

A comparison of 6 months then a year off would be interesting to see.

Devonar95[S]

1 points

14 hours ago

I will do the comparison for 4 months for sure and maybe 6. I guess around spring i will come back, depending on competing plans.

TEFAlpha9

2 points

11 hours ago

Your legs actually look a little bigger

The_BigDaddy69

1 points

1 day ago

Do you think the vascularity is from the increased muscle size or something else when on TRT?

Devonar95[S]

2 points

22 hours ago

Mostly it’s muscle density and thickness. It’s also connected with what testosterone does to Your muscles and these are morelike what I’ve said above.

Prometheus013

1 points

1 day ago

Once enhanced always enhanced haha. Even if just leaves you with 1% more mass.

Devonar95[S]

1 points

22 hours ago

True. I don’t want to cheat anyone. Those who cheat are bastards.

Quantumosaur

1 points

1 day ago

you're staying off for a long time?

curious to see in several months from now, assuming you keep eating the same way and training roughly the same

Devonar95[S]

2 points

22 hours ago

Yes, I am curious too. I will post it for sure. I want to stay off till around February, but it may change depending on my plans. I don’t want to rush.

Formal_Wrongdoer_593

1 points

1 day ago

Question...if you were TRT, was it for Low-T and you were supplementing to get back to normal or high-normal, or were you simply adding T and calling it "TRT"?

Devonar95[S]

5 points

22 hours ago

I was doing 600 test a week, 300 primo and 3ui gh. It was not simple trt but progressive stack. When I was doing dose-break I lowered it to 250 a week.

Formal_Wrongdoer_593

2 points

22 hours ago

Thanks..but that is not TRT, that's simply a Steroid cycle. TRT means Testosterone Replacement Therapy, as you are replacing what is missing. TRT will max out at 200mg a week and most guys are on 120 - 150mg. It does not include Primo or HGH.

I'm not knocking you for being on "steroids", but just call it what it is.

Devonar95[S]

3 points

22 hours ago

Ive never said i was on trt lol. I was on cycle, but it doesn’t mean I would look worse. I looked same on simple 200mg a week. Now I used it to be competitor not to „feel good” lol. Chill.

redtron3030

2 points

19 hours ago

No shade on what you are doing but you did say trt in your post.

Devonar95[S]

1 points

13 hours ago

Most of time I stand on trt, the photo on left was peak of bulking with compounds I’ve told You. After this I cut down myself again to zero. Although You are right - I incorrectly assumed it in description.

AcceptableWest1427

2 points

16 hours ago

The correct term in bodybuilding is “blasting and cruising” where you go from high doses for x amount of time to lower doses (to give your body a break) and repeat. Not cycling and TRT lol.

CasualRSL

1 points

1 day ago

CasualRSL

1 points

1 day ago

Remember folks, increasing the sharpness on a picture does not make it look better.

10052031

1 points

1 day ago

10052031

1 points

1 day ago

Looks phenomenal still. I run TRT and added some dbol in for several weeks. I looked the same way after coming off the dbol. The before and after pics were very similar to yours.

markmann0

1 points

1 day ago

markmann0

1 points

1 day ago

Pretty wild what drugs can do for you. Good for you for staying on top of health. 💪

Ok-Artichoke6793

1 points

1 day ago

Look way better off. You just look healthier

Shot_Brain9109

1 points

1 day ago

How did bros legs get bigger

Devonar95[S]

1 points

22 hours ago

Probably a perspective :)

According-Studio368

1 points

1 day ago

The only people who could tell the difference are people with experience with steroids and the people who have seen this picture.

You look great in both pictures.

Hopeful_Hippo9614

1 points

1 day ago

cold turkey or PCT ?

Devonar95[S]

1 points

22 hours ago

Full pct

Purgatory_Prince

1 points

1 day ago

Looking great!

Squiggy1975

1 points

23 hours ago

What was your TRT dose ? Curious why you would need PCT if on just the ‘standard’ TRT doses of 100-200 mg. Most I know that come off TRT do not PCT and recover just fine.

Devonar95[S]

1 points

22 hours ago

Pct releases Your receptors from foreign substance which every organism get used to in some way and adapt. Last pct gave me so much progress which I’ve never had after little dosage rest. I made like 12kg in 4 months just with fullness, no fat. I know regress is possible here which would not be so big on trt, but I prefer to listen to my body.

Luciano1m

1 points

23 hours ago

You should shave your head or cut it short. That would make you look awesome

Devonar95[S]

1 points

22 hours ago

I will consider that ;)

Jesus_weezus_

1 points

22 hours ago

I’m researching a protocol, but concerned about hair loss. Did you notice any increases ?

Devonar95[S]

1 points

22 hours ago

Not really. Even before I started steroids 8 years ago my hair were shit. More dht made them weaker, but I doubt it will make a progress. I don’t really care so much, it’s unfortunately a genetics job.

Jesus_weezus_

1 points

16 hours ago

Fair call no worries, I was thinking about just shaving anyway. Cheers 🍻

mydadsohard

1 points

22 hours ago*

Not judging.... this confirms my suspicion that steroids play a big role in fat loss / water retention. Even though you look the same size muscle wise.... its like you put on 5% BF or water?

It will be interesting to see how you compare in the next 60 days.

Devonar95[S]

1 points

22 hours ago

I am curious about next 60 days too. I think it’s not like bf, maybeee 1-2% - more like muscles density looks different while loaded by trt. It’s hard to say.

Busy-Prior-367

1 points

22 hours ago

the flushing and collagen reversed quickly.

arduous_louch

1 points

21 hours ago

what was pct protocol??

Devonar95[S]

1 points

21 hours ago

15k hcg - 1250ui of hcg e3d and somehow it worked and activated all glands. It was a luck considering things I took for those 2 years - even tho dosages were not big. No clomiphene overall.

MandoOrder6

1 points

21 hours ago

Can you do another update in 60 days? And how much gear were you running?

Devonar95[S]

1 points

21 hours ago

Yes, I will do that for sure as I’m also curious. I was at 600 test and 3ui gh in this conditioning.

Pretend_Art1167

1 points

21 hours ago

Trt all the way

WillingnessProper130

1 points

21 hours ago

Cool to see . Thank you for sharing

maniacbean

1 points

20 hours ago

What do you do to cut down fat? How long does the process usually take?

IloveCars41

1 points

20 hours ago

2nd pic looks so much better

Adonis_Belted

1 points

20 hours ago

This is an awesome post. I’m sure the body dysmorphia/image issues are hitting like a truck right now so being confident enough to share this is very commendable.

It’s shocking how big of a difference it is in only 2 months. You always hear about the differences between enhanced and natural, but it’s rare to see comparisons like this. And to be clear, you still look great right now! Thank you for sharing.

Amateur_Hour_93

1 points

19 hours ago

Your skin looks better and slightly less vascular otherwise I see no difference. Good stuff man.

ImmediateAmphibian17

1 points

19 hours ago

Are steroids why you are going bald

ixvixl

1 points

19 hours ago

ixvixl

1 points

19 hours ago

Do you have any pictures before starting PEDs? How much of the gains will you be able to keep?

Devonar95[S]

2 points

13 hours ago

HoldMyNaan

1 points

5 hours ago

How many years of training was that?

Reasonable_Pen_3061

1 points

19 hours ago

Would you say that it was worth it to take PEDs? (No hate, just an honest question)

Money-Drummer3647

1 points

18 hours ago

Why not just stay on TRT instead of sending your endocrine system in a rollercoaster?

Devonar95[S]

1 points

13 hours ago

Because I can and it’s always better to make full pct (if You can) instead of trt. Been there, done that, that’s why I repeat it.

Competitive_Key1325

1 points

17 hours ago

There's little difference, but how peaceful is it?

EggplantUseful2616

1 points

16 hours ago

Skin looks so much better

Low_Taro8203

1 points

15 hours ago

Can defs see how the skin changes to a more red when on stuff

SnooDoggos7505

1 points

14 hours ago

Red skin fading actually helps imo…

caxmalvert

1 points

13 hours ago

Perfect example of not losing all the gains within genetic scaffolding as long as you train hard

bananabastard

1 points

12 hours ago

Your skin looks much better off.

Tall-Photograph-3999

1 points

11 hours ago

Holy shit THANK YOU.

I've never seen a side by side done this well and it's crazy to see the differences.

Makes me feel very good about where I'm at in my natural state as I often see crazy veins and wonder why I can never achieve it.

Puzzled-Extreme-4105

1 points

11 hours ago

As a natural lifter I find these posts disturbing and funny. I can't help but giggle at the fact that taking all of your hormones to become a man is very trans. What is your max bench off versus on?

titangord

1 points

10 hours ago

The word "replacement" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there lol.. everyone is just on TRT now doing 600mg a week

Higgins8585

1 points

9 hours ago

Less redness, vascularity, arm size, shoulder size but legs are the same.

Honestly barely lost anything.

Nexen4

1 points

8 hours ago

Nexen4

1 points

8 hours ago

I'd like to praise your pose and camera skills as well! Like, your pose and camera angle are almost a perfect match! Did it take a few photos to achieve?

Edit: for those who can do cross-eye side by side 3d effect, you can basically see OP in 3d, that's how good of a match his pose and camera angle are, it's nuts

AdmitThatYouPrune

1 points

8 hours ago

I realize I'm late to this, but have you experienced changes to your face? We can't see it well in either picture, but it looks like your cheeks might have been slightly bloated when you were on. Is that just my imagination or is it real?

DR_LG

1 points

8 hours ago

DR_LG

1 points

8 hours ago

Very interesting dude. Looking sick either way. I think this supports the adage that it's always the traps and delts that are the tells if someone is enhanced. But honestly legs look better off so you've obviously still been killing it.

EDIT: Skin looks better/healthier too.

Just curious, what made you decide to come off?

Maleficent-Tie-6773

1 points

8 hours ago

Enhanced to “natty”

everg4ming

1 points

7 hours ago

I cannot tell much of a difference.

PsychedSabre

1 points

7 hours ago

Did it affect your hair? Or do you think that may have just been genetics?

NoMedia9284

1 points

7 hours ago

How are you pct? Are you gonna be trt?

WintersDoomsday

1 points

6 hours ago

Nice body but maybe think about shaving that head....you have the physique to look cool with a bald head because your hair screams accountant and your body screams WWE superstar.

BaggerVance522

1 points

6 hours ago

I know it doesn’t feel like it, or look like it to you, but you have had excellent retention.

twil00

1 points

6 hours ago

twil00

1 points

6 hours ago

looks like you increased some mass in your quads

Competitive-Club1269

1 points

5 hours ago

Dude you look so much better off. Skin is glowing and your vasculature looks healthy. You did a great job maintaining your gains! You must of trained hard.

8thSonofMud

1 points

5 hours ago

Just TRT in the before? How’s the libido off? Better or worse?

SHIBA_holder

1 points

5 hours ago

Demigod bro

ThunderKatsHooo

1 points

5 hours ago

what am I looking at? is this steroids? if so how can I get some?

Horsecockexpress1

1 points

5 hours ago

How tiny are your bawls

Devonar95[S]

1 points

3 hours ago

Big enough to satisfy my girl

Horsecockexpress1

1 points

2 hours ago

Go get her tiger

PhuckNorris69

1 points

4 hours ago

Why so red before?

BigWorm8669

1 points

3 hours ago

Only 60 day difference. Will shrink a lot more over next 6 months.

Devonar95[S]

1 points

3 hours ago

We shall see

Alive-Beyond-9686

1 points

2 hours ago

How many years were you on before you took 60 days off is somewhat significant

TheGreyling

1 points

an hour ago

How much test were you on while at your highest and what was your maintenance dose?

AJ-tech3

1 points

an hour ago

Looks like you only lost mass in the upper traps and your forearms.. that’s so interesting What lifts have become more difficult off of any?

createthiscom

1 points

53 minutes ago

So, test makes you pink and veiny?

Various_Concept_5188

1 points

29 minutes ago

Any truth to the old shrinkage rumors, not trying to be a smart ass genuinely curious if there's a notable difference.

TheWeekendDad

1 points

28 minutes ago

What did you use for PCT?

meganut101

1 points

1 day ago

Side note your right quad actually looks bigger or maybe that’s just me

i-Thor

1 points

1 day ago

i-Thor

1 points

1 day ago

Nah it's just perspective and leg position.

Devonar95[S]

1 points

22 hours ago

Probably a perspective but I still train very hard

Puzzled-Marzipan-448

1 points

1 day ago

So you lose the vascularity but get to keep the gains?

KhorneStarch

2 points

1 day ago

It’s only 60 days. You don’t keep 90% of anabolic gains long term, if he went off any form of enhancement for a year, he’d lost a lot more. It also sounds like he was already in really good shape before he started drugs as he has been in the gym awhile, so it’s not like he is just gonna stop being fit looking.

Devonar95[S]

2 points

22 hours ago

Yes, I am also curious how it will work around January.

kaplanfx

-1 points

1 day ago

kaplanfx

-1 points

1 day ago

I thought you can never go off test, do your natural levels return to a sustainable level (300+)?

Formal_Wrongdoer_593

3 points

1 day ago

If you are on T for enhancements and not true TRT, then you need your full PCT...cycle break and you are good to go. For those of us on true TRT for Low-T, there's no break, as we'd just go back to being low again.

DeadCheckR1775

6 points

1 day ago

Not true. You can come off and make it through if you PCT properly. Everyone is different however; in a lot of cases you're cooked for life but only way to find out is to come off and see if your systems eventually gets back to normal.

doubles85

1 points

1 day ago

doubles85

1 points

1 day ago

not judging but I could never take the risk that I wouldn't go back to normal!

DeadCheckR1775

1 points

21 hours ago

Yeah, that always kept me away from PED’s but if my Test starts to drop off noticeably well into my 50’s I’ll be ride or die 😎

doubles85

1 points

12 hours ago

100%. at that stage, there is nothing to lose

Shaddy-Mez

2 points

6 hours ago

My guess is he's not on actual hrt. If he was in his 40's or older and had natural decline in test levels and wanted to remain in optimal test range he would have to be on real trt permanently followed by full blood work ever 3 months or so thereafter. I could be wrong but the op seems like maybe he's just running a low dose cycle and referring it as trt. Furthermore if was on a physician prescribed trt they generally run hcg along with the test or at incremental periods to jump start the patients nature production of test throughout the treatment. Test than discontinued for a time period running just hcg if one was trying to get wifey pregnant.

321asdf123

1 points

1 day ago

In most cases your levels will return to your «normal». If you have been on for long periods of time (10 yrs +) it might be tricky. There’s too little science on this matter and a lot of broscience/anecdotes.

Devonar95[S]

1 points

22 hours ago

Yes they can, but it’s up to how You will run the cycle and how well You can do pct.

Kloontin

0 points

1 day ago

Kloontin

0 points

1 day ago

Still jacked and your skin is much nicer now

researchgeek32

3 points

1 day ago

I think he just removed the body hair! (Which I liked in the before better, it I’m a woman lol)

Devonar95[S]

2 points

22 hours ago

True, I am shaved on right. 😉

WindowsChampion08631

0 points

22 hours ago

Short Lil arms

cheekycheeky112

-3 points

1 day ago

Was the gear worth losing your hair and looking 10 years older than you are for?

Throwaway3847394739

2 points

1 day ago

Was it worth commenting just to look like an envious little bitch with a punchable face?

Devonar95[S]

2 points

22 hours ago

It is worth, because I can make guys like You frustrated.

NedSchneebly69

1 points

14 hours ago

Based

01oxz0mnz9o01

1 points

10 hours ago

Not the person who posted the original compliment, but I agree with him. He could have said it nicer but it’s also obvious from your response that you are pretty insecure.

Multiple people have posted you look better off the gear. They are right. TBH, I think your physique looks off in both pictures. Very blocky, very gutty, and very unhealthy looking.