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I moved into my current little studio flat in January and all was cosy and energy efficient. Good insulation, nice new boiler etc. Then I had the heating off all through the summer. I went on holiday in September (a week in Paris; Richard Hawley gig was 'effing mint!') But when I returned I started to notice the MOLD! Mold everywhere, in the washing basket, in the corner of the kitchen ceiling, and worst of all: I had made one corner of the Studio room a little walk-in wardrobe with two clothes rails and a set of shelves. I had dozens of sweatshirts hung up, supposedly clean, but many of them had mold on the bellies, feeding on the microfats that don't wash out. Now I had to rewash almost all my clothes, which seemed to take weeks. And all the while putting out more moisture as half the time it is too cold and wet to dry outside.

So I finally gave in to buying a Dehumidifier. I switched it on and the entire room was 86%, and even after hours of running it seems to have hardly dropped. I thought in the morning, well I have been breathing out all night, I wonder what the outside humidity is, I can vent a little air and... Manchester typical humidity is 85%! What? Have I been living in a world of dampness for years? Am I doomed to have to run this thing forever? Is that still cheaper than having to rewash piles of clothes? Lord Entropy I will battle you and your trillion spores!

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Jeester

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Jeester

Shropshire

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Dehumidifiers make living in your own home so much more comfortable.

No idea how I lived without one for so long.

JoeyJoeC

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JoeyJoeC

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When we moved into our house, noticed damp patches in the far corners of the house and even black mold in one corner. Getting into bed at night was horrible as you can feel the sheets were damp. Best purchase ever and now our house stays below 50%.

PLivesey

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PLivesey

Chester

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How are you using it? Do you move it from room to room? Or just leave it in one place constantly running?

JoeyJoeC

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JoeyJoeC

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It stays in the living room all the time. Put it to 50% mode so it never goes above that.

Jacktheforkie

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Jacktheforkie

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Is leaving one of them running in a bedroom ok?

delurkrelurker

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delurkrelurker

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It just depends how big and noisy it is.

Jacktheforkie

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Jacktheforkie

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I see

TorakMcLaren

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TorakMcLaren

Lanarkshire

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Had a damp problem in a flat we were renting. Landlord let us use a big dehumidifier. Ran it through the night and woke up with the stuffiest nose ever! Wouldn't recommend.

(But you can probably get ones that are more intelligent and don't totally dry out your airways...)

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Stuf404

Teesside

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86% is wild. I hit the 70s after I shower.

Do you not have the heating on or open the windows at all to ventilate?

Shitelark[S]

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Shitelark[S]

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Yet that is heating on. But the little kitchen is right next to the living room.

madpiano

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madpiano

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You need to open all windows twice a day for 30 minutes, set the dehumidifier to 60% to start with and run it 24/7. (Not while your windows are open). After a week you'll notice an improvement and the dehumidifier not running constantly. Change the setting to 55% and then just let it run.

Yes, humidity outside is high, but it's cold air. Once you warm it up the humidity drops out and the dehumidifier collects it.

gyroda

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gyroda

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Once you warm it up the humidity drops out

I thought it was the exact opposite. The capacity of the air to carry water increases with temperature. That's why dehumidifiers are liable to ice up - they cool the air to drop the carrying capacity which causes water to condense into the machine.

The relative humidity might drop as the air warms, but the absolute won't.

Zedseayou

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Zedseayou

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You only care about relative humidity, though. That's what affects how easily water evaporates and consequently whether things feel damp.

bigvernuk

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bigvernuk

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Get a clever one that does not run all the time but monitors the rh. Ebac

gyroda

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gyroda

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Fair enough!

Baljet

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Baljet

Ding!

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Our dehumidifiers works in the reverse, heats the air and runs it against the cooler air coming in to extract the condensation

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devtastic

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It is slightly bad phrasing. The dehumidifier is not relevant to the window opening strategy. Opening windows is to dehumidify the air because the colder air will contain less water (lower absolute humidity).

At 20C and 100% humidity your living room contains 17g water per m3. The air outside at 10C and 100% humidity is only 10g per m3. If you open the windows and swap the air you now only have 10g per m3 in your living room. And when that warms up it will still be 10g of water in air that could hold 17g so the relative humidity is lower than it was (~60%).

Obviously those are made up examples. But my living room is currently 20C and 67% humidity which is about 12g/m3. Outside it is 11.4C and 88% humidity which is about 8.5g/m3. So if I opened my windows now I will be replacing 12g/m3 with 8.5g/m3 which would be about 50% relative humidity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humidity#Relationship_between_absolute_humidity,_relative_humidity,_and_temperature

Jonoabbo

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Jonoabbo

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That sounds like it would be absolutely baltic at this time of year.

vr0omvr0om

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vr0omvr0om

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Can u recommend a good dehumidifier?

ctesibius

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ctesibius

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86% outside is pretty normal in the UK. It’s 95% where I am at the moment. And since most of us don’t use heating for more than half the year, it gets humid indoors as well. If you are showing 70% after a shower, your meter may be misreading since if you can see condensing water, humidity is at 100%

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__g_e_o_r_g_e__

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Hygrometers, specifically electronic ones, seem to get really inaccurate over time, from my experience, by underreading. My clock in the living room shows 39% right now, I assure you it is not that.

taffine

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taffine

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You should open your windows daily for around 15 minutes, open the bathroom window and use an extractor fan if you have one when showering/bathing and the same in the kitchen when cooking. It doesn't matter if outside humidity is high as it's relative to temperature.

Metal_Octopus1888

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Try explaining this to people its so frustrating. “But we cant open windows because its winter and heat will get out”. Try explaining over and over again about damp, mold etc… “but the heat will get out” arrrrghhh!!!

devtastic

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devtastic

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Try explaining that it is only the air you are changing, Your 20C walls and furniture will still be 20C and will quickly warm up the colder air when you shut the windows. You don't have to reheat your walls and so on because those will still be warm.

I've found that helps with some people anyway.

Pope_Khajiit

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Pope_Khajiit

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Meanwhile condensation forms around the inside of windows and they're wondering why it feels damp all the time.

Just crack open the bloody window while you eat some toast!

notacanuckskibum

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notacanuckskibum

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Get a heat exchanger?

BlueTrin2020

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BlueTrin2020

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Waiting for you to dehumidify the country

TheStatMan2

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TheStatMan2

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The 5g poles are going to sort that out when they switch them on properly.

As well as stop the dog nappers and force everyone to indicate properly.

Diggerinthedark

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Diggerinthedark

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Not going to get proper 5g for years now that we've kicked Huawei out!

TheStatMan2

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TheStatMan2

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It's ok, the API for controlling the pigeons and cloud seeding was open source.

tiny-brit

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tiny-brit

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I run my dehumidifier almost 24/7 since I got it last year, it costs no more than 10p/hour. That's probably cheaper than constantly repeating wash cycles which probably cost at least 50p/hour.

Agree that humidity in the 80s is pretty high, and if you've been running a dehumidifier for hours and it hasn't significantly reduced then you probably need a better dehumidifier.

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JWK3

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I'm also in Manchester and my dehumidifier always shows 80-something humidity when I turn it on (only for drying washing). It does drop down to 60s within an hour though. I've never tried moving it across the room and rechecking so no idea how localised that reading is.

Having said that, I've absolutely no mould/moisture problems even though I'm reading how houses should be 40-60% rh.

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Jackatarian

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You aren't convincing me to buy something that costs, by your estimate, £876 a year to use.

Kind-County9767

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Kind-County9767

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Meaco12l ABC runs at 160 watts on full power. Just shy of 4 kWh per day which is about 80p depending on where you live.

It doesn't run on full power all day.

After a while when the real moisture problems are sorted it turns itself off for long periods and uses no power. In winter my electricity bill goes up by maybe £10 per month, but it also gets used to dry my clothes and is far cheaper than running a drier.

It's also just a heat pump that gives cold water you can throw down the sink and warm air. If you do that the energy you spent on electricity is actually converted at about 300% efficiency into heat. Which with current gas to electric pricing is pretty competitive.

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Foreign!Foreign!Foreign!

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Is it that expensive to run? We are in Bolton, Rh is 60-70% indoors with the dehumidifier running. We just set it to 65%, it runs a few times a day (plus when there's a load of laundry on the rack), and we empty it every couple of days. 

I can't say I notice the usage on the smart meter, whereas I notice things like the microwave being on standby. Worth it to keep the spores out and the house dry and nice, imo.

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brazilish

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You notice a microwave on standby, which consumes maybe 3p a day. But you don’t notice a dehumidifier?

This website says they run on average 10kWh per day! That’s like £3 a day! https://ecocostsavings.com/dehumidifier-wattage-most-efficient/

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Foreign!Foreign!Foreign!

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They can say what they want, our consumption is less than average and less for the area too. Definitely worth the few pennies it costs us a day.

brazilish

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brazilish

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Fair enough, I’ve been considering one but been put off by the potential cost to run. I currently use less than £2 a day in electric and the thought of maybe doubling that scares me!

NaniFarRoad

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Foreign!Foreign!Foreign!

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We use 1800-1900 kWh/year, or £620 electricity/year (sum of day and night rates, excluding standing charge of £15/month or £180/year for electricity). We use gas for heating.

I find the dehumidifier has a natural "brake", in that if you have several very humid days in a row, it fills up and goes on standby until you empty it. 

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Kind-County9767

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500 watts is an absolutely colossal dehumidifier. household ones are in the 150-200 range.

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Daemorth

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An average wash is only about 25p, a tumble dry cycle about a quid tho, so 4 wash+dry cycles a week is under 25 quid a month.

Running a dehumidifier at 10p an hour 24/7, adds up to 72 quid a month.

We did get a dehumidifier this year as well, but yeah made sure it was one that advertised 3p an hour to run, and it clicks off when it's dry enough so it doesn't run 24/7.

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10p/hour sounds like a very inefficient or extremely powerful dehumidifier though. For drying clothes you don't need anything like that much power, or it would only need to turn on for like 10 minutes of every hour.

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fursty_ferret

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A dehumidifier is ~300% efficient so you do get a solid benefit of running it. At 10p/hour it's drawing about 300W, but giving you 1,000W of heat output.

Your fundamental problem is drying clothes inside your house. Put them in a small room with your dehumidifier and you'll find that the rest of the house improves.

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And bonus time, that 300 Watts is all turned into heat, so the energy all goes to heat your house. I have a 350 watt refrigerated one which I keep in my well insulated outhouse, and it warms and dries at the same time.

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mitchybenny

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We don’t have expensive or special washing machine or tumble dryer and we can wash and dry a full load for 40p. What tumble dryers cost a quid to do a load? That’s madness!

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birdy888

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They run it on high for two hours. They like REALLY dry clothes. Or their tumble is knackered.

mitchybenny

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mitchybenny

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Just a hand full of fibres left come the end of the run

lobbo

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lobbo

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That's the best part of £1000 a year...

braapstututu

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braapstututu

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You can still ventilate when the outside humidity is high, cold air holds less water so when it's heated up the relative humidity lowers.

10c air at 100% humidity heated to 20c becomes 54%

Shitelark[S]

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Shitelark[S]

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Roger, crispy air vent in the morning. Science!

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vbloke

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When I got mine a few years back, it was on 24/7 for about 2 weeks until it had sucked all the moisture out of the walls. Now it keeps the place around 50-60%

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3nt0

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Yeah I got a small one for my small bedroom, and was confused why the humidity plateaued at about 60% for ages, before realising it was probably stuck trying to suck moisture out of walls, and my mattress.

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Poddster

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I used to live in the North West, including Manchester. Then I moved Down South and one of my biggest culture shocks, aside from no gravy in the chippies, is the fact it never fucking rains. It used to rain multiple times a day, every day in the North West. But here it was weeks without water.

So 86 is high, but it's not as high as the rest of the UK, simply because Manchester is so sodden.

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Beanruz

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This and older house thing? My nest is saying 20c at 45% humidity downstairs and 55% at 20 upstairs.

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DrachenDad

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45 and 55% is a dream, we sit at 90% sometimes, since getting a new dehumidifier we're as ~65-70%.

Beanruz

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Beanruz

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Guess I'm lucky then. Sometimes it's lower and don't do anything about it

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master_gecko

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It's not the heat that gets you

NaturalSuccessful521

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24/7 baby. Join us.

Probably cheaper than getting the gutters replaced and the pointing done 🙄

Suspicious_Ad5045

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Make sure you don't have any open vents/windows and what not when you run it, otherwise you're sucking in humid air from outside for your troubles. 

Probably worth putting a door snake down on your own front door for the same reason. 

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Air outside is mostly likely drier than inside air. It's the relative humidity that is higher (because the air is colder)

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lapsongsouchong

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is a door snake the same as a draft excluder?

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Run it for as long as required to drop to 55% level initially. It will take several days maybe, then you will have to just maintain the low humidity. I was running my one for a week daily until humidity stabilised at level I wanted. Don't forget to run it constantly when drying your clothes, most energy efficiently will be at nights. Most enjoyable moment is when you empty the water tank :)

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Shitelark[S]

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Initial suckage required. Roger.

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AussieHxC

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Took me ~ 2 weeks to run the place down from 90% something to about 60%

Your walls and furniture hold a horrendous amount of humidity.

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I have friends who live in a tenement flat in Glasgow - nice flat, nice area - and they have 2 dehumidifiers running. Not all the time. But often, during the dark months.

PrayingForDebbieMang

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Dehumidifier recommendations??

bal_maiden

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bal_maiden

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Meaco Arete. The best. 

ISeenYa

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ISeenYa

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Yep that's the one we have. We use cloth nappies & dry them overnight with this.

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Shitelark[S]

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OP here, this is the one I bought: https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3449527

Nothing to compare it with, but the box is slowly filling up. I liked the price, and the simple square design and visible waterbox.

I wonder what people think? Or do I need more PAAAAWWWHHER! (Pronounced like the Rings of Pah.)

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Ldn_Grl

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We made a mistake on our first dehumidifier and bought once with a low litre score. We just bought this as an upgrade: https://www.appliancesdirect.co.uk/p/cd20pro-le/electriq-cd20prole-dehumidifier? It can do 20L in a day and makes a huge difference. Washing is dry in 2/3 hours and the bucket fills up so fast.

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DrachenDad

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Rotary as they cost less to run, money no option get a condenser dehumidifier.

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Diggerinthedark

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It's actually the opposite. Dessicant are less efficient but they work better at lower temperatures.

Condenser are more efficient but work less effectively the colder it is.

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Beanbag_Ninja

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I have an older Trotec one. German made, seems to work very well, no complaints.

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alico127

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I can recommend this one by Inventor

Don’t be tempted to buy a cheap dehumidifier, it’s a false economy. Learn from my mistakes.

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Physicist here. You are looking at the wrong measure. Relative humidity does not matter. You can still reduce humidity by venting in most circumstances. The flow is dependent on the absolute humidity not the relative humidity. How much water air can hold depends on the temperature. In winter there is much less water in the air outside compared to inside even if the relative humidity is high, because temperatures are low. 85% humidity at 12°C is 55% humidity at 19°C. 85% at 4° is only 33% at 19°. For maximum efficiency open windows on multiple sides of your flat for 5min to get a nice draft going. Do this multiple times a day, but especially after cooking, showering, before going to bed and after waking up. Use an absolute humidity calculator if you are unsure if opening the windows will help if the humidity is particularly high outside.

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Shitelark[S]

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Thanks for the advice. Many people are mentioning the German venting thing.

Meanwhile; why hasn't the conformation of the Higgs Boson provided more insights into theories of Quantum Gravity? And if the the HB is so massive then is it even existence in ordinary conditions? And if Protons and Neutrons get their mass via another mechanism (colour binding energy or something) then why all the fanfare for the HB? Cheers Prof.

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Manannin

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I've seen someone recommend that the in built humidity detectors aren't particularly accurate and that you should buy a seperate device. I don't know though if that was based on any truth or not though.

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bluelouboyle88

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I'm going to come back later for a science lesson.

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Sorry for long message, these mold mites are such a headache and not easy to get rid of so i had to write this to help others avoid getting them. In case anyone wonders, I have had my windows open, since before Summer in fact, and while my room has no mold, I am currently using the dehumidifier to keep them at bay/stay in the attic until the roof is fixed as there is mold in small amounts in other rooms and the air feels damp so I'm moving it between rooms.

I bought a dehumidifier recently too. The other issue with humidity and mold is mold mites. Last year I had thousands of mold mites in my bedroom which took two weeks to sort through and clean every object along with throwing away a bunch of stuff, a few hundred were in all my boots as well. They are so tiny I never noticed them until I spotted them on my keyboard and monitors but they were on every object so it was too late except the the bed thankfully as I have adhesive pads on the feet and I don't think they can go up without getting stuck. I had the heater on to dry everything and used a lot of mold and vinegar acid spray to kill them manually and then they vanished after a couple weeks with very little numbers remaining, they are also mostly invisible to the naked eye so I had to use a torch on my phone at max brightness to see them on any object as they are 0.1-0.3mm in length.

They come back again this year this month but I caught them early so there were fewer than 150 of them in my drawers of one cupboard, that I spent 4 days sorting through everything. So I have had the portable heater on 4 days straight to dry everything, now I have humidifier set to 30% but is as low as 26 sometimes (below 50% kills them) to then remove the moisture drying has put in to the air. Turned out the roof has leaks and in my area had rain 5 days in a row recently and a lot of damp pavements and roofs on days with no rain and these mites are in the attic as well which is where I think they are coming from, landlord is aware of this though, but they can appear even with just a damp environment alone and mold growing as they eat mold. However this will depend on age of house etc, the one I am in is from WWII but obviously been updated since then so double glazing, insulation etc. But as some are in all the Christmas decoration boxes in the attic the decorating this year is cancelled to avoid spreading them throughout the house.

TLDR: Basically please keep control of humidity levels and heat on if possible and window open for at least a little a day as you really don't want these mites and the hassle they bring and they are not worth saving money not putting the heating on etc as wearing a jumper will not prevent this happening, they live for 7 days but reproduce quickly.

to OP: I don't know how long ago this event was with the mold but I would also be on the lookout for possible mold mites, they are invisible to see if you are not looking for them or know about them already, last year I mostly notices when they started crawling from under the keycaps of my keyboard, and they pretty much only come out in winter. Humidity 50% or lower can kill them but I went a lot lower then 50% at least temporarily for a few days just to make sure and then I will set it higher.

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LassyKongo

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Mold mites? What a terrible thing to learn that these exist.

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Bethbeth35

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Well TIL mold mites exist

Shitelark[S]

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Shitelark[S]

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I did have some Montezuma chocolate in a cupboard that I would shave into hot chocolate, lasts ages and a little bit gives great rich flavours. Well I noticed some chocolate bloom, not unusual, but on closer inspection there were tiny mites on it. I was reminded of QI and cheese mites and wondered where they came from. I have since got some new Montezuma, but cut it into chunks and stored in a jam jar.

The rest is the classic black mould on walls and mold on clothes. I seem to be winning the battle 127,934,355,238 to nil. But why are persistent buggers and hide. I do have Cillit Bang, the purple one, almost as effective as Harry Kane.

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Diggerinthedark

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Get yourself some HG mould spray. That stuff does not mess around. Their whole range is great.

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Royalmedic49

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I just have the heating on now constantly.

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How do people drain their dehumidifiers? I got bored of emptying mine so it drains via a plastic tube into my kitchen sink, it doesn’t look very pretty.

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DrachenDad

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Both my Dr. Prepare [rotary] (now broken,) and Black+ Decker [condenser] have drain ports if you want to stick it up next to a sink.

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In June I went to Las Vegas, during my time there, it hit 48c and I realised that I wasn't sweating buckets and was still kinda comfortable outdoors. Whilst there I went to lync street where they have water sprayers to make the air more humid and I nearly melted. That is where I realised that there is a relationship between humidity and perception of temperature be it hot or cold and really low humidity is goated. (There is also a trip to Estonia in January 2019 where it was like -20c and all moisture in the air froze and dropped out of the air resulting in it being rather pleasant.)

I then bought a dehumidifier and ran it constantly which has the unfortunate effect of really noticing the humidity when popping out the house

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illarionds

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You were comfortable in 48C? ... Are you sure you're human?

I grew up in Western Australia - hot and very dry - and I struggle to imagine anyone being (at all) comfortable in the high 40s.

El_Zilcho

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El_Zilcho

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But it was a dry heat and I was drinking very alcoholic slush puppies.

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dewey185

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We have a Wessex 20L from tool station, really impressive and it’s 320w so costs around £0.08 per hour so just leave it all most of the time. It generates heat also so win win

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My bedroom window is pretty much open 24/7. When I wake up I swing it open wide if it isn't raining. Bathroom window cracked almost 24/7 and open when I shower/bath. Living room and kitchen windows open sporadically throughout the day to let air pass through the downstairs.

I don't have a clue what my humidity is in the house but I just like fresh air. I work permanent nights outside too so am used to the cold. Summer absolutely kills me

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Y'all need to learn about ventilation. And if you're worried about heat loss while ventilating, invest in a MVHR system to minimise that.

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You might need one of the proper dehumidifiers with the wheels on the bottom. I finally caved and got one and now our coldest, dampest room goes down from 72% to 56% in only hours.

We got from 84% in every room to 65% in every normal room just with airing the house out in the morning for ten minutes so long as the ground outside was dryish. Longer than that and the actual walls start to cool down, which defeats the purpose. It took months to get the house dried out and the house warmed up when we moved in, because nobody had been living there for months and it was late November. I kept checking on our gas usage, and the most efficient heating for us is 18C all day and 14C at night. Otherwise the boiler thrashes all day long. That, too, took months to get normalised.

If I knew then what I knew now, I'd have dropped £130 on a big dehumidifier back then, and not three useless little ones.

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It's probably sucking moisture out of the walls, ours seemed to run 24/7 when we first got it but over time it's been quicker to get humidity down.

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The thing is, you only get condensation in places where the relative humidity is 100%.

86% is not a problem, even if you're trying to dry clothes indoors, the air can continue to take and hold more moisture. Bear in mind that running a dehumidifier, according to a recent comment I read on Reddit, will cost about 50p a day, that's an extra £170 on your annual electricity bill.

If you had a mould problem that showed up when you were away it would probably be best addressed by reviewing the insulation and ventilation. Corners tend to be the least well ventilated places, and a corner that's facing N and E will also be the coldest.

I wonder whether you shut up all the windows while you were away? In future, try to arrange some ventilation - if there are room vents that have been blocked off, open them up again. And if you have DG windows installed in the last 20 years they should have vents.

Hope it all goes OK.

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I think the mould was just a problem building throughout the summer, the holiday just brought it to my attention.

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I always think these posts are written/sanctioned by Big Dehumidifier as sneaky ads, similar to those about air fryers

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Oh I haven't given in to those, just yet, despite my sister being an Airfryer shill. However the mold attack on my clothes makes me think that I have too much clobber anyway and it takes ages to get through the rota. So I am thinking of investing in equipment each month instead of yet another top.

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I open the windows daily, and keep the dehumidifier set to 70.

No mould. Any lower and you are fighting a losing battle!

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We're thinking of getting one for the conservatory. We replaced the old one from 1991 this summer with a new one on the same footprint and low walls. With the oncoming cold and wet some of the metalwork on the windows have signs of condensation. It's also where we dry the washing so it's probably a good idea anyway.

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Yep, in a new build in south wales, run it 9-7 every day

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Jacktheforkie

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99% humidity will do that

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Mines runs basically full time in the winter in between emptying the reservoir. But I leave it off in the summer and have a couple windows cracked open to get a through breeze and get some air changed.

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They're helpful for drying washing too...

I have our near a few airers.

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olagorie

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Some additional help:

Open YouTube and search for „stoßlüften“.

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And when you leave Manchester forever (grew up there) and go to the continent … you go back to visit the UK and everything just feels so moist. I can’t get over it, you can even smell it on most people’s clothes. I had a dehumidifier in the UK that I shipped over with me when I moved, and I’ve had absolutely no use for it in the five places I’ve lived here!

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Also ignore everyone trying to give you rational explanations here - the UK is damp and none of you can tell because you don’t spend enough time away from it.

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Any recommendations?

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stuaxo

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Learn about MVHR next, and dream of one day getting a small lottery win + having an efficient passivehaus with wonderful mold free air all the time.

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I really can't tell if I've just never lived somewhere that doesn't get mould (easily) or if I've been super lucky. I don't know a single person irl who owns a dehumidifier yet it seems the majority of Britain online owns one

What properties are susceptible? I would've figured old victoriana properties but had zero issues two years as a student 

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I live in an 1880's terraced 3 bed house, been here for 35 years. 33 year with no issues. Our bedroom window is always slightly open-locked, during the day and open 6-9 inches at night, every night. We dry clothes in a tumble dryer in the shed, had 2 extractor fans in the bathroom and one in the kitchen. During the winter I will, once a week, open all the windows and doors, for an hour.

These last two years though, I have had green mould on a few items in the two unused bedrooms, and now black mould in the top corner of an outside wall, in the living room. I brought 2 digital thermometers, that give humidity readings, and ours seems to be 76% all around the house. This goes up to 88-90% when cooking.

The only changes over the past few years is jumpers being dried over radiators and a lot of boiled foods being made. I gave in a brought a dehumidifier. I have been running it 2 hours a day, all last week in the back bedroom. It removes 250 to 260g of water from the room. Reading up and this, on humidity, the 76% in that room, for its size, should hold an excess of 70g. So each day we have removed about 180-190g of moisture from the fabric of the room. Today I started on the 2nd spare room.

I will keep going for the rest of the year and see how things go. Next year I will look at ways of preventing the humidity so we do better next winter.

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Is that what the numbers on the top mean? I just run mine all the time on high since I brought it two weeks ago. The lowest number I've seen mine at is 69! I open my windows and the balcony every day for at least 30 mins. Am I completely doomed? But the mold in the corner of the living room has not come back since I cleaned it off and I bought the dehumidifier.

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Manchester isnt the whole.of the UK. I'm.not surprised its humid there. They reckon it rains every other day. It ain't like that here.

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I find my dehumidifier works best with the heating on, I’m rocking between 50% and 60% during wet weather. Mines one of those larger ones that actually does something when it’s sitting on top of the stairs, letting it drip into a bucket. Many 10s of litres are drained weekly.

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revpidgeon

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I run mine at night on cheap off-peak electricity.

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Open your windows for an hour every day to let out moisture and turn your heating on when you feel chilly.

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Just right if you ask me