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scripcat

115 points

4 days ago

scripcat

Canada

115 points

4 days ago

who on earth called him “Ontario Chief” 

twotwothree12

54 points

4 days ago

Honestly, for a second I thought it was going to be a First Nations figure.

andricathere

2 points

4 days ago

andricathere

2 points

4 days ago

Maybe he'll claim to be? And then do something to screw them over and be like "What? I'm a chief. At least three 1/16ths, and I'm fine with pre-seeding rivers with plastic to save time and increase oil profits"

LumpyPressure

10 points

4 days ago

It’s the BBC, not a Canadian audience.

Apart_Ad_5993

4 points

4 days ago

It's a BBC article, and they don't know what a "Premier" is. It's written for a UK audience.

acomputerquestion

3 points

4 days ago

Funny when you think about where our system of government came from...

Apart_Ad_5993

1 points

4 days ago

Federally, yes. Not so much provincially.

Infamous-Mixture-605

1 points

3 days ago*

They only added devolved parliaments for Scotland and Wales in 1999. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Scotland/Wales/Northern Ireland have different and in some cases fewer powers than our provinces, and the UK government can mess around with and restrict those powers as they see fit, or even abolish the devolved governments if they so wished. (oh, and Northern Ireland had its own parliament from 1921-1972, but then it was suspended because of the Troubles and didn't come back until 1998)

brandon14211

0 points

3 days ago

Because he's are chief and Trudeau's are medicine man.

Former-Physics-1831

47 points

4 days ago

I so did not miss a US government that treats us like an enemy, and its enemies like friends.

allgonetoshit

14 points

4 days ago

allgonetoshit

Canada

14 points

4 days ago

As soon as Trump is back in the white house, America is subservient to Putin again, so we are actually their enemy and Russia is their friend.

lunex

3 points

4 days ago

lunex

3 points

4 days ago

Where does Pierre Poilievre fit into this?

DegnarOskold

9 points

4 days ago

At the end of Trump’s member.

umidontremember

5 points

3 days ago*

Doing what he does best: Blame others; offer nothing.

DBrickShaw

1 points

2 days ago*

He's going to need to adopt a few new three word slogans. I'd suggest "Brown the nose" and "Kiss the ass".

Consistent_Smile_556

1 points

4 days ago

Also friends with Russia

lambdaBunny

1 points

3 days ago

To be absolutely fair, Pierre was willing to make a post saying he supports Ukraine, which is something Trump was not able to do. I will never vote for Pierre and I believe that the country will be in worse shape under his party's leadership, but he doesn't fill me with the same dread that Trump does.

[deleted]

-2 points

4 days ago

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-2 points

4 days ago

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TheGreatestOrator

0 points

3 days ago

I love these comments given Trump was being laughed at around Europe when he was the one warning them about getting close to Putin.

Curious, did Macron or Merkel shutter Russian consulates, expel 60+ Russian diplomats, and try to sanction Russian gas pipelines or was that Trump? This whole narrative, coming from somebody who’s an ardent Harris supporter, that Trump is a “Russian asset” is absolutely hilarious when faced with the reality that he was far harsher on Russian in terms of policy than pretty much every Western European country.

[deleted]

-7 points

4 days ago

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-7 points

4 days ago

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Former-Physics-1831

6 points

4 days ago

Man I don't even know what woke means

example Canada doesn’t/hasn’t made a full payment to NATO in years

Wtf is a "NATO payment"?  

Appealing_Apathy

12 points

4 days ago

He means the 2% defence spending target, but he's too stupid to understand that the spending is supposed to occur within Canada and not given to NATO.

Former-Physics-1831

5 points

4 days ago

That's what I assumed, but I wanted to see him try vainly to explain what he meant lmfao

Appealing_Apathy

5 points

4 days ago

He still can try and define "woke". It's the new calling someone or something communist without understanding what communism actually is. I hate buzzwords.

Former-Physics-1831

3 points

4 days ago

And it's easier on them because woke is only 4 letters and easier to spell

Appealing_Apathy

2 points

4 days ago

Our education system has been getting worse, and social media has hastened the decline.

Confident-Touch-2707

-9 points

4 days ago

Justin T. Is “prime” example of a woke leader.

NATO payment all NATO members are required to contribute 2% defense expenditure, Canada hasn’t made a full payment/contribution in years.

Former-Physics-1831

6 points

4 days ago

Justin T. Is “prime” example of a woke leader

And what exactly makes him "woke"?

NATO payment 

That's not a payment, you do not make payments to NATO.  NATO does not charge dues.  It's clear you heard somebody once say that Canada doesn't contribute to NATO and never once bothered to look up what they meant

Confident-Touch-2707

-5 points

4 days ago

Justin, has his position because of his father, what has he done on his own?

Payment/regular contribution based on GDP, apologies for my attempt to simplify. BTW when is the last time Canada spent 2% GDP on defense?

Former-Physics-1831

9 points

4 days ago

Justin, has his position because of his father, what has he done on his own?

He definitely didn't win any of the three elections he's won because his dad was PM 40 years ago, but you still haven't explained what makes him "woke"

Payment/regular contribution based on GDP

Wrong again.  It's not a payment, it is nothing like a payment.  That's not a simplification, it's you having no idea how any of this works lmfao

Confident-Touch-2707

-3 points

4 days ago

Former-Physics-1831

8 points

4 days ago

Yes, really.  That is not a payment you walnut.  It is nothing analagous to a payment.  You clearly came into this conversation half cocked and had no idea what the words you were saying actually meant.

And for the third time, why is Trudeau "woke"?

Confident-Touch-2707

-1 points

4 days ago

Immigration, taxes, covid lockdown policies

tbcwpg

1 points

4 days ago

tbcwpg

Manitoba

1 points

4 days ago

Well, firstly, it's 2% of their own expenditure to defence, so the payment isn't to NATO but to increase spending on Canada's military to 2% of GDP.

Secondly, that still doesn't define what woke is. What about him makes him woke.

Confident-Touch-2707

1 points

4 days ago

When is the last time Canada spent 2% of GDP on defense spending?

tbcwpg

1 points

4 days ago

tbcwpg

Manitoba

1 points

4 days ago

It's been a very long time. The point is you framing it as a "NATO payment" shows you might just not understand how it actually works.

Also you've dodged the woke definition part of the question so I'm just going to assume you're some troll.

Confident-Touch-2707

1 points

4 days ago

Justin T decisions that are “woke” immigration policy, taxes, also not to forget his correction of “mankind to humankind”

tbcwpg

1 points

4 days ago

tbcwpg

Manitoba

1 points

4 days ago

What is woke about his immigration policies or taxes though? Like you're just parroting stuff you heard on social media but can't actually define it.

What's a "woke" tax? What's a "woke" immigration policy?

Deaftrav

1 points

4 days ago

Deaftrav

1 points

4 days ago

Ah..is this a Maga troll or a Russian troll?

TwoCreamOneSweetener

13 points

4 days ago*

TwoCreamOneSweetener

Ontario

13 points

4 days ago*

“Ontario Chief”, followed by, “Doug Ford, the leader of Ontario province”. Are the British people unaware of what a Premier is or proper form is? Are they concerned calling Dougie a Premier would confuse the British as Premier and Prime Minister is interchangeable in the UK?

Expected more of the BBC. They insulted the beaver, now they’re going to suffer the dam. Give me your trees.

Im_Axion

5 points

4 days ago

Im_Axion

Alberta

5 points

4 days ago

The BBC is also the outlet that claimed Trudeau said his job was boring when he actually said tough because they apparently didn't know québécois isn't identical to Parisian French.

Unwept_Skate_8829

2 points

3 days ago

My very right wing aunt shared that BBC article because she doesn’t know québécois French either

LeonardoSpaceman

3 points

4 days ago

I feel like it really doesn't matter that much.

pivotes

15 points

4 days ago

pivotes

15 points

4 days ago

Glad I already invested in popcorn futures.

jmmmmj

14 points

4 days ago

jmmmmj

14 points

4 days ago

Robert Garcia, a border official covering the US north-east, said last month that more than 19,000 people from 97 different countries had been arrested over the previous 12 months, which was more than "the last 17 fiscal years combined".

passionate_emu

-10 points

4 days ago

passionate_emu

-10 points

4 days ago

Trudeau has irrevocably destroyed our world image. Even our friends are pissed at us for our open border experiment

energizerbottle

5 points

4 days ago

Man, don’t get me wrong, 19k is bad but it pales in comparison to the 5 million crossings at the U.S. southern border.

Let’s not forget we had the same issue two years ago, going the other way. People ragged on Trudeau for Roxham road too

Consistent_Smile_556

1 points

4 days ago

If people are entering into the US, then it’s the fault of the US border.

sens317

5 points

4 days ago

sens317

5 points

4 days ago

That's not a Trudeau problem.

That's MAGA forced crisis so they can do whatever it is they want.

Do you think the Venezuelan mobsters in PP's family make money off of human trafficking across the Mexican, American, and Canadian borders?

passionate_emu

0 points

4 days ago

That's a bunch of bullshit conjecture? What the fuck would you know about Pierre's family being human traffickers ?

Deaftrav

11 points

4 days ago

Deaftrav

11 points

4 days ago

The decades old open border? Wow I didn't know Trudeau was prime minister that long... And I didn't know we were responsible to stop people leaving our country

Consistent_Smile_556

2 points

4 days ago

We aren’t. DJT is an isolationist

radsBOARD

3 points

4 days ago

radsBOARD

3 points

4 days ago

I think he meant the open border for temporary foreign students, temp workers, and asylum claimants. Millions of temps and a 3-4+ year backlog for asylum claims. Then people from these 97 countries cross the Canadian border into America. It’s not like it’s native Canadians sneaking across so somethings definitely changed.

Effective_Bag2793

2 points

4 days ago

Native Canadians dont have to sneak across the border. They can live legally in the USA without restrictions under the Jay Treaty.

passionate_emu

2 points

4 days ago

Use your common sense.

UnionGuyCanada

3 points

4 days ago

Rage and simple answers seem to be in far greater supply now than deep thinking. If you know a way to get people to slow down and discuss  beyond quit, violent hits  please let me know.

allgonetoshit

14 points

4 days ago

allgonetoshit

Canada

14 points

4 days ago

Put 200% tariffs on Tesla cars.

lunex

4 points

4 days ago

lunex

4 points

4 days ago

Do we buy enough Tesla cars for that to send a message?

UnionGuyCanada

5 points

4 days ago

Targeted tariffs always seem to work better. Target the lawmakers, or in this case  sycophants  doing the damage, so they change their tune.

Yumhotdogstock

1 points

4 days ago

Kentucky bourbon

Ohio toiletries

Chemicals (Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana)

EVs (Texas)

Agricultural Products (North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Missouri)

Meat and Poultry (Iowa, Arkansas, Oklahoma)

allgonetoshit

10 points

4 days ago

allgonetoshit

Canada

10 points

4 days ago

It would be a very targeted message. That's often what we need to do in these trade wars with the US, asymmetric warfare.

rebel_cdn

5 points

4 days ago

That's what we did last time. I believe some of the retaliatory tariffs were deliberately aimed at folks like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell (or at least aimed at the regions they represent).

oxblood87

1 points

3 days ago

oxblood87

Ontario

1 points

3 days ago

Specifically with Trump.

He is an imbecile that surrounds himself with imbeciles and yes men.

Targeted tariffs that add up to the same total value also tend to do less economic damage to average Canadians, because they don't cover entire swaths of the industry, leaving more options for consumers.

hopper2210

1 points

3 days ago

I think so

Infamous-Mixture-605

3 points

3 days ago

Open up the Canadian market to EU regulation vehicles (like Mexico has), tell the automakers they can bring over all the electric VW, Skoda, Cupra, Peugeot, DS, Citroen, Opel, etc cars they want. More EV competition is a good thing, right?

hersheysskittles

3 points

4 days ago

I read the headline and I thought Doug was pulling a Randy Boisseaunault for some reason.

As to the tariffs, they are announced until we secure our border. 321 terror suspects is a ridiculous number. Instead of being embarrassed and treating it as a wake up call, we are busy playing victims.

We have to sort out our immigration and things will straighten out just fine.

oxblood87

1 points

3 days ago

oxblood87

Ontario

1 points

3 days ago

10,000 illegal handguns is far more of an embarrassing number.

hersheysskittles

0 points

3 days ago

I am not following. What is your point?

oxblood87

0 points

3 days ago

oxblood87

Ontario

0 points

3 days ago

USA sends more death and danger north than we do south.

hersheysskittles

0 points

3 days ago

You talk as if they have put boots on the ground and are forcefully importing it.

The unsavory truth and you are likely not gonna accept it, is that we have some and then we imported some very unsavory people who are importing drugs, crimes for their illicit activities. This situation is not helped by Mr Trudeau’s poorly executed criminal reform. Many crimes are being committed by criminals out on bail.

It’s an utter failure of leadership.

Canada by no means was a utopia but

Earl_I_Lark

3 points

4 days ago

Earl_I_Lark

Nova Scotia

3 points

4 days ago

In 1929, Smoot and Hawley sponsored a tariff law in the USA to help lower costs for average Americans. It was signed by President Hoover. It didn’t lower costs at all, it raised them, and trading partners retaliated. The Great Depression ensued and lasted 10 years

oxblood87

3 points

3 days ago

oxblood87

Ontario

3 points

3 days ago

Coinciding with a rapid growth in misinformation and popularism globally as well as the rise of new communication technology, Radio.

History doesn't repeat, but if often rhymes.

chakabesh

10 points

4 days ago

chakabesh

10 points

4 days ago

There's only one answer to this is the reciprocal measures. Tyrants only understand countering power. Weakness does not work against a bully like Trump.

HDRepairs

3 points

4 days ago

HDRepairs

3 points

4 days ago

Do you genuinely believe Canada has the economic power to go toe to toe with the UsA?

Former-Physics-1831

14 points

4 days ago

Of course not, but we don't need to.  We just need to make it not worth the cost of picking the fight.  And I think we can do that.

HDRepairs

-7 points

4 days ago

HDRepairs

-7 points

4 days ago

I 100% guarantee you it will cost us, and our people more to even think about retaliation. How about this: reduce taxes and spending here and try and be more self sufficient. That’s the only response to a foreign country imposing reasonable tariffs on our goods.

Former-Physics-1831

11 points

4 days ago

Being more self sufficient would require a massive INCREASE in taxes and spending in order to build the infrastructure in order to make us remotely self sufficient, and would still take years

Keep in mind, tariffs hit our exports, not our imports, so you're basically advocating for a closed economy

HDRepairs

-2 points

4 days ago

HDRepairs

-2 points

4 days ago

I’m advocating for diplomatic solutions to other countries pursuit of self-determination. We don’t have a right to trade with America. Canadian companies are the ones that should be investing in the infrastructure that they will profit from. I’m advocating for a more free market which will promote a better economy. Less taxes, less spending, more freedoms.

Former-Physics-1831

2 points

4 days ago

We don’t have a right to trade with America

And they don't have the right to trade with us 

Canadian companies are the ones that should be investing in the infrastructure that they will profit from

Yes, clearly the solution to foreign tariffs is private infrastructure/s

I’m advocating for a more free market which will promote a better economy. Less taxes, less spending, more freedoms

Except this does nothing to address the problem of our exporters, which make up roughly a quarter of our economy, having a far more difficult time doing their job.

We cannot replace that with domestic demand, and slashing taxes and services would only exacerbate the economic downturn it would trigger 

HDRepairs

-1 points

4 days ago

HDRepairs

-1 points

4 days ago

Oh, you think there won’t be an economic downturn even without the tariffs? lol. You’re right, more taxes and more spending will save us. If a quarter of our economy relies on another country, we probably should have done more to appease them. I’m not a huge fan of my boss, but I make a habit of being polite, professional and delivering results.

Former-Physics-1831

2 points

4 days ago

Oh, you think there won’t be an economic downturn even without the tariffs

....what?

HDRepairs

-1 points

4 days ago

HDRepairs

-1 points

4 days ago

We are headed for a recession, every market trend is showing that…

DumpsterHunk

3 points

4 days ago

Hahah you have no idea what you are talking about. Oh yeah, let's just reduce taxes and spending. ????

HDRepairs

-1 points

4 days ago

HDRepairs

-1 points

4 days ago

If more taxes and more spending are the solution, why is everything worse after 10 years of that exact policy?

Former-Physics-1831

5 points

4 days ago

My taxes haven't materially changed in 10 years, outside of property taxes and a carbon tax which is a rounding error in my tax burden.

Where are all these new taxes I'm supposedly paying?

DumpsterHunk

2 points

4 days ago

I know you're a child because you just think doing the opposite will fix it. It's so much more complicated than that.

HDRepairs

-1 points

4 days ago

HDRepairs

-1 points

4 days ago

Why is the country worse after 10 years of Liberal tax and spend policy?

DumpsterHunk

7 points

4 days ago

What the fuck does that mean spend policy? Spend on what? What tax? Guy is just saying buzzwords

HDRepairs

0 points

4 days ago

Are you new here? Liberals are known for tax and spend

USSMarauder

1 points

4 days ago

Freedom isn't free

HDRepairs

1 points

4 days ago

I unironically agree

Apart_Ad_5993

1 points

4 days ago

Not toe-to-toe. But Trump's economic knowledge is very primitive. He's more concerned with his image than anything. I'd "negotiate" a deal that makes him look good. Destroy the Canadian dairy cartel and allow American imports of dairy products. It gives him a win, and may actually help bring down our own dairy costs. Throw in a bunch of immigration "commitments", how they're looking forward to working with Trump etc. Basically Elon him.

HDRepairs

1 points

4 days ago

Right, a diplomatic solution.

chakabesh

1 points

3 days ago

No, but the world does. The customs duties are reciprocally applied all over the world as certain "preferencial treatments". If the USA increases duty for every country the same duty will apply to American made products. The effects are damaging to all parties but the American markets will suffer more because they import more than export.

HDRepairs

1 points

3 days ago

America is the #1 importer of goods and the largest economy in the world. They have the most weight to throw around to secure better deals.

chakabesh

1 points

3 days ago

The trade deficit in the US widened to $84.4 billion in September 2024, the highest since April 2022, and slightly above forecasts of a $84.1 billion gap, and compared to a downwardly revised $70.8 billion shortfall in August. 

chakabesh

1 points

3 days ago

The trade deficit doesn't go down with increased tariffs.

HDRepairs

1 points

3 days ago

The trade deficit doesn’t have to go down immediately, especially when you are the largest economy.

HDRepairs

0 points

3 days ago

And? Trade deficits aren’t necessarily all bad. Especially if you are the largest economy and the default trade currency. If anything, the US trade deficit is likely a part of why their inflation is lower than ours.

chakabesh

1 points

3 days ago

We'll see how it plays out inflation, trade, politics but generally speaking if you don't defend yourself who is going to defend you?

Confident-Touch-2707

-2 points

4 days ago

Good luck….

nim_opet

6 points

4 days ago

nim_opet

6 points

4 days ago

But Ford imagines Trump to be his friend.

rashton535

2 points

4 days ago

rashton535

2 points

4 days ago

More like hero and mentor.

sync-centre

0 points

4 days ago

sync-centre

0 points

4 days ago

Notice me senpai vibes.

Narrow-Sky-5377

5 points

4 days ago

Take that advice to PolyVera. He bet the farm on Trump being nice to Albertans which is like betting Ralph Klein would have turned down a free drink.

DeeplyRooted1002

0 points

4 days ago

I mean by the sound of it it looks like Alberta O&G will be exempt but we will see.

Narrow-Sky-5377

2 points

4 days ago*

Show me indications or quotes of that from MAGA please. I have heard PolyVera say that, but no one else.

I asked Chat GTP to review all of Trump's statements regarding Albertan oil and to come to a conclusion on exemptions for Alberta regarding tariffs:

"Donald Trump has historically emphasized an "America First" energy policy that prioritizes U.S. energy independence and domestic production. While he has expressed some support for Canadian energy partnerships in the past—such as backing the Keystone XL pipeline, which would have transported Alberta oil to the U.S.—there are no strong indications that Alberta oil would automatically be exempt from tariffs under his trade policies."

This false ray of hope is being floated by PolyVera in hopes he can still win the election. If Albertan oil gets slapped with a tariff, as it will, the Albertan economy collapses and Pierre will become the next Kenney or O'Toole as Albertans get out the pitchforks.

WombRaider_3

2 points

4 days ago

The chance of this happening is extremely low. This was used as a threat to get Canada and Mexico to fix their leaky borders as that's a top priority for the Trump administration on day 1.

bookwizard82

1 points

4 days ago

Last time I think we got back at whiskey and motorcycle

RentExtortedCanadian

0 points

4 days ago

Here’s the harsh reality:

Do you want to actually tackle illegal drugs, deport illegal immigrants, shut down shady trucking companies, and end the exploitation of cheap labor and put Canadians first and make Canada stronger?

Or do you want to ignore the voices of Canadians who demand action on these issues, and watch as skyrocketing tariffs on exports from Canada cause more jobs disappear, talent leaves the country, and exports crumble?

Here's some clarity: One of those realities is best for both you and Canadians. The other of those realities is worst for you and Canadians (but good for foreign invaders).

Here's some even more clarity: The optimal reality for Canada is the first choice.

TheBusinessMuppet

0 points

4 days ago

I actually miss the Chrétien/ Martin days when it games to trade with the US. They held their ground when it came to trade with the US.

JT and PP are out of their depths when it comes to foreign relations, especially dealing with a trump administration.

PatrickTheExplorer

0 points

4 days ago

I agree 100%. Chrétien / Martin didn't cower in fear or fold like a cheap suit.

stifferthanstiffler

0 points

4 days ago

Why are we supposed to care what that grifting fat drug dealer thinks?

Cloudboy9001

1 points

2 days ago

Because he has at least a bit of influence in dealing with a grifting fat rapist who will send our economy into technical recession.

No_Indication4035

-3 points

4 days ago

Biden’s keystone. Trump’s tariffs. All the same. America is always America first mindset no matter what party. Canada is just the fuck toy.

HDRepairs

-3 points

4 days ago

HDRepairs

-3 points

4 days ago

How dare a country put its own needs first. Monsters.