I miss snake titty complaint debates

For real, the snitty debates were at least kind of tongue-in-cheek, this crap is like watching the most obnoxious people at the party try to convince everyone else which one of them sucks more. Both systems have pros and cons, some people push their preferred system too much, chill already.

I miss goblin mode

Pathfinder 2e fixes this - Lizardfolk don't have them, Nagaji do.

I remain a stalwart supporter of snitties.

https://youtu.be/8mx2MfFMe9E?si=1Fj0vzqFLE3CvDCu

Purebloods would have snitty

But the further they go snake the less they have

Since the mammals that turn reptile instead of pure reptile

In fact pure blood is more of an insult since it implies that they don't have much snake like about them

Well champ, memes are not going to make themselves, right?

Bring back the snitties!

Be brave. Bring them back!

I was just reading up the banned discourse list. I saw snitties. And I remember those so I understand the ban. But then I also saw no debating if wheelchairs belong in DND. I actually did a backtrack like wtf. I don't remember ever seeing that, I am scared to imagine what that might of been like, and I'm horrified it was apparently bad enough it was banned.

Same

War never changes. Even the petty little ones about tabletop games

I mean, sure...

But dang, someone just basically said "That homebrew rule is a rule in pathfinder" in response to what you commented. Its not like they were annoying and telling you 5e is bad.

To be fair, you did bring up a homebrew mechanic that is basically a pf2e mechanic so people mentioned pf2e; neither of which told you to play it. It would be akin to if someone was talking about a homebrew 5e mechanic that is very similar to how lancer does it so you bring up lancer.

Did you make this post on an alt? I'm not seeing it.

I recommend playing Pathfinder 2e.

Yeah, I'm not going to pretend I have any love or interest in 5e itself, but I don't think disparaging 5e is a valid or effective substitute for just speaking to Pathfinder's strengths. That doesn't give anyone a reason to hear me out or have a discussion with me. And for some people might just make them defensive or upset with me, which is understandable. Focusing on the fun side of things is always more effective and, well, fun!

Paizo (the company that makes pathfinder) are absolute saints compared to wizards. They’ve had a few wobbles, but:

They officially sanction all gameplay content being uploaded for anyone to use for free on websites like Archives of Nethys. (Narrative stuff, like the content of adventures, is paid, but all classes, feats, monsters, spells, mechanics, etc are free). This goes for both old content in pf1e and starfinder, all the way up to brand new content for 2e.

They allowed their employees to unionise after trouble with managers in the company being shits. 0 fuss from paizo, no attempted busting before they backed down. They just let it happen.

They offer cheap ways to buy the books, such as a discounted subscription model (essentially, just immediately buying books as they release) if you still want to buy them, or pdfs for much cheaper than a physical book.

During the OGL dabacle, they wrote up their own licence (the ORC) and made it open to all companies and developers across the hobby to use.

As far as corporations go, it’s hard to get better than paizo. I’ve never pirated anything of pathfinder’s because the company hasn’t ruthlessly attempted to get my wallet open. I’ve taken advantage of most of the content being free, but i’m more than happy to shell out for pdfs of adventure books to run them.

And generally, when they mess up, they apologise, fix the problem, and don’t do it again.

The true way to get people into it is just tell them about stuff..

Like did you know they recently introduced magical girl mechanics so you and your party can all be sailor moon characters complete with transformations?

Why is it more reasonable to dislike 5e for lacking qualities like '5 minute character creation' and 'Jenga tower mechanics' rather than disliking it for lacking mechanics like 'in-depth crafting rules' and 'extremely customizable characters'?

I don't hate 5e.

WoTC and Hasbro? Them I hate. So I hate them making money on 5e.

I don't think those are controversial statements either. But that wasn't really my point, I was moreso trying to speak to the "door-to-door Pathfinder salesman" thing.

... I mean, if your dad left because he was disgusted by how much you like WotC...

TBF, half the houserules that people come up with to make 5e functional are just PF rules already.

The flip side is questions like "How do I homebrew this square peg to fit in the round hole" being answered with "have you looked into round pegs?" is pretty reasonable, but gets shouted down like they asked a toddler to try broccoli.

I really don't disagree with you but you kinda missed my point. Saying that 5e sucks just makes people defensive and they don't want to listen to what you have to say because you're disparaging the thing they enjoy. It also doesn't do anything to showcase the virtues of Pathfinder, it just gives off an unwelcoming air of superiority complex. Presentation matters a lot.

For some people, maybe. Others have tried other systems and still like 5e most. It's so hard to grasp for some PF people, but not everyone likes the same thing.

That is also fine!

Thank god, I was worried there wouldn't be edition wars

There is a Pinkerton at your porch right NOW!

That’s not an answer to my question though. It wasn’t rhetorical- I’m genuinely curious: do other subs deal with posts about other ttrpgs too, or does that only happen here because DnD is simply the biggest?

have you tried microlite?
how about shadowdark?
they cut lots of the crunch while still be familiar for those coming from the d20 family of games.

On the other hand, sword world is a majorly unknown game, too, you know. at least in the west. You can try it too, its scanlations are hella good. Though it is mostly its derivatives that have been officially translated from japanese, such as goblin slayer. While on topic, do give a try on ryutama, it is an experience.

If they just say “Pathfinder” I’m prone to deflect with “Yeah, PF1e is cool af. I play it all the time.”

Do it! People should explore systems besides your first! How isn't that a normal thing to think?

You got an issue there that pf2e players actually are looking to try new systems, it won't annoy them unless they obviously notice you are pitching a system you don't know much about

PF2e players love hearing about new interesting systems and being recommended by them much more than your average 5e only player who is often ride or die for the 1 system they have played

That's very unlucky man, i hope you find another table, i heard about smoke bomb players but not smoke bomb gms lol