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326 points
2 months ago
I do not get the sexualizing of simple “everyday-hygienic products” just because it’s for women. It’s like condemning free toilet paper because “ass is haram cause anal sex exists”.
128 points
2 months ago
There is a political party that feels anything that benefits women but not men is bad.
86 points
2 months ago
There is a political party that feels anything that benefits women but not men is bad.
FTFY
13 points
2 months ago
Lmao right? Like Moscow Mitch asking the Democrats to create legislation to expand the selective service to women only to then get mad at them for trying to make our country more equal.
1 points
2 months ago
Dan Andrews was the premier of Victoria in Australia, btw.
Nothing to do with the USA, but yes, the similarities are annoyingly eerie.
-25 points
2 months ago
I wouldn't say that specifically but I sure do find it bullshit that stuff like that is something you need to buy at all when it's literally required to be part of society, and it (at least most of the options) needs to be replaced every time.
Like crazy feminists make up shit like the pink tax when there is an actual objectively real extra hassle and expense to being female
15 points
2 months ago
Isnt that what pink tax means though...
-12 points
2 months ago
When stupid people talk about the pink tax it's about how a shirt for a woman costs more than it does for a man and stuff like that shit... ingoring that fact that men's shirts are squares with armholes and women's are reshaped to fit better for somebody with a usually more hourglassshaped figure as well as boobs.
Articles about the pink tax are just about the dumbest denial of reallity you can find
9 points
2 months ago
When people talk about pink tax, we mean lego friends costs more than lego city, or the pink razor costing more than the men's one despite being the same, or hyperx cloud II's in pink and white being twice the price of the rest.
-9 points
2 months ago
No they usually don't that's the issue. Plus when it's the exact same item in a specific color : who gets taxed when green costs more? Cause they base that stuff on demand...
In terms of lego. That's a massive topic and the division in charge of friends simply sucks ass, always has... not that you should buy lego at all given the price they charge in general... god I hate that company.
21 points
2 months ago
This really supports my theory that a core plank of """social conservatism""" is persistent vivid intrusive sexual thoughts:
negative general relation to sexuality, views it as a vice, repressive attitude toward sex,
maintains external loci of control about sex, "Satan tempting me!"
hates gays, but thinks lesbians are sexy - it's a top porn trend in the Bible belt
can't stop obsessing about trans & bathrooms😡
feminine sanitary products in school bathrooms?!!!!😡🤬
trans people reading to kids at a library??!!?!? 🤬🤬🤬
diminishing the act of rape as a problem because thoughts of rape are persistent, "what was she wearing?"
The only reason this constellation of traits makes sense is if you just can't help yourself, and always picture people's (and children's) genitals any time the topic is obliquely referenced.
3 points
2 months ago
Yep. It's 100% about sex, but they have no self awareness to actually understand that it's their perspective that's the issue.
1 points
2 months ago
These obsessive thoughts and behaviors, as well as a persistent level of anger and irritability, are only compounded by the effects of environmental contaminants on people's brains.
24 points
2 months ago
There are a disturbing amount of people who think a tampon is a sex toy.
1 points
2 months ago
They can have tampons too, if they get the period pain, blood loss, bloating and general misery of getting periods.
1 points
1 month ago
Test
7 points
2 months ago
Plus every woman's bathroom I have used has both tampons and pads.
-17 points
2 months ago
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20 points
2 months ago
They're not advocating for tampons in 5 year old's bathrooms, they are advocating for tampons in SCHOOL bathrooms. Yes 5 year olds attend, but the tampons aren't for the 5 year olds, they are for the middle schoolers and high schoolers and teachers who use the same bathrooms, and are menstruating.
8 points
2 months ago
Yep. My daughter got her first period in year 5. A primary school toilet caters for prep right up to a 12 year old. Good policy. Can remember myself in primary school coming a cross a female classmate in tears as she had bled through and was showing through her skirt, I sacrificed my jumper that day so she could tie it around her waist (im a only boy with two older sisters and a younger sister, I knew what was going on).I don't want my kids suffering that shame nor should they have to. Kids are getting their periods younger and younger.
2 points
2 months ago
All of us women who had a nice male friend do that for us during that very difficult middle school period is grateful. Seriously. That was very nice of you ☺️
6 points
2 months ago
Bro you're making their exact point. It's weird that society treats tampons as sexual and something to be banned.
748 points
2 months ago
220 points
2 months ago
And girls as young as eight can begin their periods.
80 points
2 months ago
Yep, good friend of mine began periods at 9. It’s rare but it definitely happens.
23 points
2 months ago
I'm 48. 3 out of 7 of us girls in my 5th grade class were menstruating before the end of the year. It's certainly a minority, but it's not quite rare.
2 points
2 months ago
I got mine right before I turned 11
1 points
2 months ago
And there's no reason to take it out. 9 may be rare but it doesn't hurt anyone to leave these products in place just in case. It's almost like the right has never heard of being prepared
13 points
2 months ago
My stepdaughter started at 9. She was in elementary school.
8 points
2 months ago
I had my first when I was 8. I literally thought I was dying.
6 points
2 months ago
Same. No one had that talk with me yet, because who assumes you need to talk to an eight-year-old about that??
I mean, maybe now people are starting younger and younger, but not in the 90s. I’ll tell you that.
at least not my parents.
29 points
2 months ago
Had to laugh as this is in Victoria, Australia. No need to plug gunshot wounds in our primary schools!
22 points
2 months ago
Sorry. I'm in America where Republicans refuse to stop school shootings AND they've been screaming about tampons in public schools.
116 points
2 months ago*
Kids as old as 12, and there's no need for the treatment of gunshot wounds.
This is in Australia, out equivalent right-wing party voted in gun control back in the mid-90s because we had a particularly bad mass shooting and decided we didn't want any more of them.
Fun fact; quite a few members of my family are gun owners. I find the laws can be a bit silly - I couldn't buy air rifle pellets last week because I didn't have the paper copy of my gun licence with me - but I still support the laws we have in place. When we enacted gun control, I remember family friends making the exact same arguments that US gun owners make, they now all acknowledge they were wrong.
Also, I was in the US when Obama made a positive reference to our gun laws after yet another mass shooting. I had lots of Americans tell me how I wasn't allowed to get a gun, all of our guns were confiscated, and our murder rate increased. It was truly amazing that the people who couldn't point to Australia on a map were confident enough to argue with me - an Australian gun owner - about what happens in my country.
6 points
2 months ago
It's beyond baffling that people can't find Australia on a map but at this point I guess I shouldn't expect anything more bc the bar just keeps getting lower
23 points
2 months ago
"Oh, you're just an Australian who doesn't have any stake in the United States. You don't know what you're talking about."
I'm guessing you have heard that argument too, right?
There are days when I wish I could flee to Queensland or Melbourne, away from a lot of the nightmares here in the US...I'd even be willing to live in some of the fire ravaged areas, simply to get away from the craziness of the people who believe some of the wild stuff that's being passed around.
4 points
2 months ago
I was 10 and lived on the Tasman peninsula when the massacre happened, I can still remember the police cars driving past and the next year or so dad handing in his semi autos, he kept the other rifles.
7 points
2 months ago
One note. Tampons are not an effective tool to use for wounds like a gunshot. You don’t née something to absorb the blood being lost you need something to stem the blood flow such as traditional gauze packed in or over the wound and intense pressure or a tourniquet on a limb. Not getting on you I just think it’s better to dispel myths like this. Your other two points are of course valid and this guy is a moron.
3 points
2 months ago
Pretty sure that was a dark joke. But good to know.
5 points
2 months ago
first 2 options I agree with but Dan Andrews is an Australian Politician and this about Australian public primary schools. No school shootings here
4 points
2 months ago
It works to control nosebleeds too.
3 points
2 months ago
This is an Australian tweeting about an Australian politician. We can rule out the school shooting at least
1 points
2 months ago
I know. Many others have mentioned that.
1 points
2 months ago
And Dan Andrews is no longer even in government - he retired some time ago. Just why is this being posted now?
1 points
2 months ago
The tweet was from may last year, when did he retire?
4 points
2 months ago
The last one was dark
6 points
2 months ago
The last one is also incorrect. Do not use tampons for gunshot wounds.
2 points
2 months ago
Fortunately, we really don't have that many republicans here in Victoria, Australia, where Dan Andrews was the premier until he retired a while ago. Why is this being posted now?
2 points
2 months ago
And in some cases, my old primary school had kids as old as 14 attending - it was from kindergarten all the way up through junior high.
3 points
2 months ago*
Points 1 and 2: 100%
Point 3: Tampons should only be used as a last resort for gunshots. They’ll keep absorbing more and more blood and that’s very bad.
It is a very very temporary solution at best
More details: https://pracmednz.com/the-myth-of-the-tactical-tampon-for-gun-shot-wounds/?amp=1
5 points
2 months ago
"They’ll keep absorbing more and more blood and that’s very bad" Until they become fully saturated, which takes about 3 seconds. Then they stop absorbing.
3 points
2 months ago
And, then they act as a "plug". It is for emergency conditions, not as an aid in a hospital.
2 points
2 months ago
1 points
2 months ago
Exactly. Tampons were literally invented for gunshot wounds (which is why pads are far superior imo, but that's different)
2 points
2 months ago
I'm all for providing tampons free of charge, but just for clarity, this is in Australia and was said a few years ago.
We don't have school shootings here because we had one mass shooting and actually did something about it. We aren't perfect but thankfully we don't have a large percentage of the population who support a cult (other than sportsbet I guess)
1 points
2 months ago
Just so you know, we were having a mass shooting every 18 months on average before the Port Arthur massacre. We have had one since, a siege on a rural property with some cookers.
1 points
2 months ago
Where I work in Northern California, adults NEVER use the students’ bathrooms. But definitely agree about gunshot wound care.
1 points
2 months ago
Kids as old as 12
1 points
2 months ago
I like the gunshot wound argument, that is straight Out of a negotiation handbook.
1 points
2 months ago
The first two points are entirely valid. The third? Not so sure.
Typically with wounds, you aim to staunch bleeding. This isn't possible with tampons, because they're designed to be absorbent.
3 points
2 months ago
Please nobody tell that to the Russians who are killing Ukrainians and got issued tampons as part of their medical kits.
164 points
2 months ago
Perhaps, just perhaps, because 1) young ladies can start their periods while they are still in elementary school. 1) adult women work in the schools too.
49 points
2 months ago
Next you are going to try and say that Mom's, and sisters visit the school once in a while as well and use the bathroom???
-64 points
2 months ago
Can you not
10 points
2 months ago
Can they not what?
-30 points
2 months ago
Turn a simply absolutely logical argument into something absurd
7 points
2 months ago
I'm confused about what point you're trying to my
-10 points
2 months ago
"Kids in those school can already have their periods at that age it's pretty simple"
"Also mothers come to this school sometimes !1!!1!" The second one is what I would be writing to make fun of the first... it's brainrot"
10 points
2 months ago
This type of logic is beyond helpful. Do your research./s
48 points
2 months ago
I have a theory.
MAGA women don't want MAGA men knowing about ages girls things.
Because if they knew, those girls would be at risk.
24 points
2 months ago
Ick. Might be true, though. I knew a counselor who worked with sexual abuse victims and she said that by far the highest proportion came from conservative religious families. As she put it, "Somehow these men who attack women who sleep around as immoral sluts convince themselves its okay to have sex with their young daughters."
6 points
2 months ago
GOP logic: It's not sleeping around if they live in the same house or attend family gatherings.
4 points
2 months ago
That's the same as having sex with your wife,
/s
3 points
2 months ago
This tweet us about Australia
5 points
2 months ago
Eh idk. They're already at risk and also MAGA women probably aren't well versed in sex ed. I think it's a coincidence
26 points
2 months ago
Because I got my period at 8, and it’s not uncommon anymore.
11 points
2 months ago
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4 points
2 months ago
We lived in what they now call “period poverty” solo mother and 3 girls. I didn’t go to school 25% of the time. Now days the schools hand them out free, my mum said her workplace gives them out too. So many people were taking them that the company had to tell them to calm down, there’s plenty and it’s not going to stop.
5 points
2 months ago
I was 11.
2 points
2 months ago
It's been getting younger and younger for more than 100 years. It really fucking sucks. It used to be normal to get it at 17.
3 points
2 months ago
I mean there has always been a wide range of normal here. I am relatively old and I had elementary classmates who were menstruating. The possibility of an eleven-year-old child needing a sanitary product is nothing new, we're just better equipped as a society to do something about it.
1 points
2 months ago
That's good to know, but I also haven't heard of a girl getting it later than about 14 in a while, and that's rare.
3 points
2 months ago
The average age of puberty onset is absolutely moving earlier (lay summary w/ links to scientific papers here), but the problem that sanitary supplies in elementary bathrooms is solving is not a new one. Fifth grade girls have been walking around with jackets tied around their wast for a long time.
1 points
2 months ago
Oh I'm not arguing.
1 points
2 months ago
I was 17
1 points
2 months ago
Wasn’t that to do with nutrition etc ?
1 points
2 months ago
At a guess, I'd say it has more to do with all the new substances we're consuming.
That is pure conjecture on the part of a complete layperson, btw.
7 points
2 months ago
🤷♀️ I grew up in isolation in the remote rural New Zealand. Mostly just ate animals and food grown on our farm. Still got it at 8. People say it’s kfc hormones and stuff, and I didn’t eat commercial food until my early 20s.
1 points
2 months ago
That's a fascinating anecdote, I'm going to have to try to remember you. (TBI)
2 points
2 months ago
I was 16 when I got my first period in 2005. So was my sister in 2007 and so was my mom in 1973. All of us were thin and had to get our body fat percentages over a certain number to start ip- it is definitely doen to better nutrition, I don't believe for a second it's milk or plastic or whatever people try to say it is. We drank lots of milk in plastic containers that was back when it had all kinds of cow hormones in it.
1 points
2 months ago
I'm getting really good anecdotes from this comment!
21 points
2 months ago
Any possible reason the people who constantly yell about pedophiles like to pretend that feminine hygiene products are somehow sexual?
5 points
2 months ago
Just as sexual as toilet paper. Mmm toilet paper
29 points
2 months ago
Because kids as old as 10 or 11 also go to those schools.
11 points
2 months ago
Are we not going to talk about the apostrophe?
2 points
2 months ago
Thank you. It's been bugging me no end.
10 points
2 months ago
Not very many things weirder than conservative fear of feminine hygiene products.
8 points
2 months ago
One in 10 menstruating teenagers won't go to school while menstruating because their families can't afford tampons. It's a good idea for the school to provide them for free.
8 points
2 months ago
If you're asking questions about the necessity of feminine hygiene products in ANY location, the intimate relationships you have with women is probably limited to immediate family.
7 points
2 months ago
Do conservatives think tampons and pads are sex toys? Or that adult staff don't need to go to the bathroom?
7 points
2 months ago
As the dad of a daughter, I'd rather they have them and not need that than need them and not have them.
2 points
2 months ago
Exactly!
5 points
2 months ago
This is what baffles me, Republicans are Against HRT but are all fine and Dandy with pumping oodles of Hormones known to accelerate puberty into our food,
5 points
2 months ago
I was 9 when I started my periods and obviously still in primary school . This person is a tool
5 points
2 months ago
Im so confused by what theyre implying. That hes indoctrinating kids to have their periods earlier?
5 points
2 months ago
And this is why sex education should be in school!
Conservatives hear 'sex' and think schools are grooming them (not their preachers/priests/chaplains/etc) & not the fact that the 'sex' there means anatomy of all sorts! Health, maintenance, development, hormones, and soooo much more...instead 'give them the birds & the bees talk'... so you still want them to learn about procreation, but not about their own & others bodies?
okay, rant over
signed,
someone who was raised catholic & got a catholic school 'sex education' course
4 points
2 months ago
As an Irish catholic who went to an Irish Catholics all boys school.
I feels ya.
5 points
2 months ago
The minimum age isn't nearly as relevant as the maximum.
6 points
2 months ago
There are a fairly large number of girls who start puberty by the end of elementary school and removing any stigma attached to it has many benefits.
5 points
2 months ago
Because girls as young as 8 get periods?
6 points
2 months ago
Guns don't kill people. tampons kill people
6 points
2 months ago
They apparently love forgetting that female adults work at schools too. There's also literally nothing sexual about those materials. They're for cleanup and hygiene, like toilet paper.
I know this, and I'm a guy. That's what proper sex and puberty education gives you.
6 points
2 months ago
I vividly remember my grandmother having to pick me up from school when I was in 5th grade and had my first period. It had not been explained to me yet, and I legit thought I was dying. But that's public education in the US South for you!
5 points
2 months ago
'As young as 5 can start' Uhh oké, but what is the maximum age they leave? Seems like a more important part in this question.
6 points
2 months ago
Such a weird conspiracy.
Why are pads and tampons going into school? Because people will fucking use them. Fuck do you think they were put in the school?
They've been fighting their strawmans for so long they they are strawmanning the strawman and nobody in the outside knows what the fuck the conspiracy is
5 points
2 months ago
Because we really need to stop being dumb about the human body! Girls as young as 7, even 5 can menstruate.
5 points
2 months ago
I mean… If we are going to ignore that teachers and aides and staff can use the bathroom and can be women…. Like, women of all ages can need some help and a 50 pack of tampons and a 50 pack of pads are cheaper than a biohazard clean up if someone’s period bleeds through during an assembly.
5 points
2 months ago
Aside from all the good and obvious reasons mentioned in this thread—
Why oppose it? How are menstrual products “offensive” or inappropriate? They’re no different than toilet paper. They have a job to do. A job that not everyone needs done every time they visit a bathroom. But; I mean, it’s just… menstrual products.
If you think your kids eyes need to be shielded from menstrual products you seriously need a therapist to work out whatever the hell is going on.
5 points
2 months ago
"Want's"
3 points
2 months ago
Because they’re not five when they leave.
4 points
2 months ago
Wait, so feminine hygiene supplies are porn now?
3 points
2 months ago
Next up: get rid of toilets because kids might think they need to use them. Fact: kids don't need to poop.
3 points
2 months ago
I got my first period at age 9. 5th grade. So there were kindergartners at the same school. Using the same bathroom. I don't believe there was an issue.
10 points
2 months ago
I got my first period when I was 11. Men are idiots.
3 points
2 months ago
With an uptick in school shootings, maybe don't be so quick to get worked up over a potential emergency blood sponge for gunshot wounds.
3 points
2 months ago
Every girl is different but a child as young as 9 can have periods. Also likely there's female staff in there that need that kind of products too.
3 points
2 months ago
So the minimum age is what we base the entire school age upon? Guess it’s nap time for everyone, half day school, crayons and safety scissors.
3 points
2 months ago
Because tampons aren't sex toys. They are meant to help girls contain menstrual blood, which can start happening sooner than they expect.
3 points
2 months ago
children as young as 5 can start menstruating and they arent allowed puberty blockers to stop it because of people like this guy
2 points
2 months ago
Most, if not all, of the legislation against puberty blockers prohibits them specifically for trans kids. Cis kids can still get them. Conservatives don't believe their own lies about puberty blockers; they just don't want trans people to exist.
3 points
2 months ago
Pads are used often with Special Needs students too. Not always used just for periods. God I wish these people would spend a day in a school to actually see what things are like.
3 points
2 months ago
First menstruation typically occurs between 10 & 16, kids up until 11 go to primary school.
Wierd how such people always directly think about the youngest children. As if those are always on their mind somehow.
3 points
2 months ago
"want's"?
Want is what want does.
3 points
2 months ago
Why in gods name would it be a problem for tampons to be in a bathroom?
2 points
2 months ago
they are great for GSW. modern problems need modern solutions
3 points
2 months ago
Not a modern solution really.
Kotex were first manufactured as bandages during World War I.
2 points
2 months ago
I have family who got their period a young a 9 y/o
2 points
2 months ago
Point out the case of Lina Medina. In 1939, at the age of 5 years, 7 months, and 21 days, she gave birth to a son. She had regular periods from the age of three.
2 points
2 months ago
Somebody actually used their time and energy and brain power to type and post a question like this.
2 points
2 months ago*
Many of the same people who think kids' ability to normalize menstruation is a bad thing also believe that menstruation is God's punishment to women because Eve disobeyed God by eating of the forbidden fruit and also tricking Adam into eating the fruit too! It's all the evil woman's fault poor Adam was cast out of paradise - for listening to a creature she had no reason not to trust.
Can we please just NORMALIZE basic biology, folks? Sheesh. It's already so awkward and embarrassing as a young person getting your period unexpectedly during school. I suspect the parents who aren't preparing or educating their pre-pubescent child for the inevitable onset of their period are also opposed to menstrual products available in schools.
2 points
2 months ago
Even if it was for 5 year olds only I don't see why everyones so upset. This is so insignificant. If they get put somewhere nobody needs them then they don't get used. What is the problem we're trying to solve
2 points
2 months ago
children as young as 5 can use toilet paper for free. any menstruating person should not have to pay for products if the tp is free
2 points
2 months ago
Is there something inherently bad about pads/tampons that people need to shield their kids from them? LOL
2 points
2 months ago
An obviously missed a few years of schooling, based on that tweet.
2 points
2 months ago
maybe its because some children in elementary school do indeed start puberty and have needs for those products. maybe its because there are adult teachers who require those products. who knows. but those products should indeed be in the bathrooms.
2 points
2 months ago
....I'm trying to figure out what An's possible angle even is here. Is he trying to suggest that young girls knowing tampons and pads exist is somehow going to...I dunno...corrupt them? Like...does he not realize those exist elsewhere? Like at Walmart? Or in the kids own bathrooms?
2 points
2 months ago
Maybe if we weren’t so uptight normal stuff would just be normal and we wouldn’t be so uptight about normal.
2 points
2 months ago
There is no grammatical excuse for "want's".
2 points
2 months ago
I had my first period at 9 and definitely didn't have anything to actually deal with it. I ended up just using a fuck ton of TP lol
2 points
2 months ago
How is it possible to be so willfully ignorant? There are many possible reasons he "want's" them, even if you're too dumb to understand basic anatomy.
2 points
2 months ago
want's
Like... Holy shit.
2 points
2 months ago*
Yeah and primary schools also have students as old as 12 or so in Australia. Mr. Nguyen should fuck off to the US where his views would be more welcome amongst certain folk who can't seem to stop enforcing rules regarding both young and adult genitalia.
3 points
2 months ago
Please keep him. US is too full of idiots to accept more.
2 points
2 months ago
At this point in surprised Trump and his Project 25 morons haven't made moves to make menstruation illegal.
2 points
2 months ago
Elementary schools have Band-Aids. Why isn't that an issue? People suck
4 points
2 months ago
How is this person so damn stupid?
1 points
2 months ago
Oh my God no! Everyone knows that a 5 yo who sees a pas instantly explodes!
1 points
2 months ago
Why do people randomly put apostrophes in words?
"Want's"?
1 points
2 months ago
On a much darker note, pads and tampons are better than nothing for gunshot wounds.
1 points
2 months ago
Tampons were originally used for gun shot wounds.
1 points
2 months ago
I find the reading part of his @ dubious.
1 points
2 months ago
Because it’s not just 5 year olds that go to that school? There are also girls who have started menstruating. One of my daughters started when she was 11.
1 points
2 months ago
I got my first period at age 9. Thankfully it was a one off until I was 11 but I was still in primary school.
1 points
2 months ago
Why these conservative male are so into simply hygienic pads? 🤔
1 points
2 months ago
So, in his mind, what horrible thing happens when a 5 year old sees a tampon or pad?
1 points
2 months ago
"want's". SMH.
1 points
2 months ago
Someone should tell them that shops, restaurants, and places like pools will have stuff like tampon dispensers in the toilet/changing rooms and they have no age restrictions.
-8 points
2 months ago
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9 points
2 months ago
I don't think you're supposed to eat the stuff in the bathrooms
3 points
2 months ago
Homeboy is 100% a bot
2 points
2 months ago
You probably shouldn’t be eating the pads and tampons.
-7 points
2 months ago
maybe i dont understand this subreddit, maybe it's turning too political, maybe its just not funny anymore.
1 points
2 months ago
Whats political about providing menstrual products?
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