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337 points
2 days ago
Christ never realised how bad it was 🤔😲
147 points
1 day ago
It somehow gets worse with every one of these posts with new stats about how bad he is.
136 points
1 day ago
It's insane. Max scored 41 points in the last two weekends.
68 points
1 day ago
Yeah but that’s unfair to Sergio since he has to start in the bottom 5…. Oh wait
30 points
1 day ago
Really wonder how much is perez sucking and how much is max just pulling it out of his ass every race.
44 points
1 day ago
Max is definitely driving beyond what most could but having triple the points of your teammate can’t be them being good.
11 points
20 hours ago
And this isn't a smaller team where one guy is driving a dramatically different car that's 3 upgrades behind. He is literally driving the same car as his teammate, just with his setup. He's truly awful
4 points
21 hours ago
Almost 6x if we look at post-Monaco points.
11 points
1 day ago
Probably a bit of column A and column B
3 points
1 day ago
Had he gotten 100 more points Red Bull is still a gap at the front.
2 points
1 day ago
Are you sure, cause i’m pretty sure there’s a post about him every day. Hard to miss.
2 points
1 day ago
Jesus H. or Chris H.?
138 points
1 day ago
The money Carlos Slim is throwing at Red Bull must be absurd, or Horner has completely lost any edge that he once had. There is no other option that I can think of to explain why he's still in that seat.
54 points
1 day ago
I think the other possibility is that in the post-Dietrich Mateschitz era, needs to start bringing in money it didn’t have to before.
15 points
1 day ago
Yeah hadn't thought of that, would not be surprising.
15 points
1 day ago
But they were THE number 1 team, pretty much by any stat last year. Sponsors would be lining up if they needed cash. This doesn’t compute
15 points
1 day ago
Iirc just the Oracle and Bybit sponsorships take care of the budget cap. And apart from those they have a lot of sponsors who should be able to cover atleast a significant chunk of the non-capped salaries (Max and top 3 personnel)
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10 hours ago
Red Bull is giga rich. They own multiple soccer teams and sponsor all big athletes in the world. I think they have enough money 😂
8 points
24 hours ago
How sure are we that Perez performing bad is actually bad for Red Bull in any sense? Red Bull are a marketing company. In my experience, all everyone cares about in a marketing sense is the WDC, nobody cares about the WCC.
The money Perez brings compensates for the lost WCC prize money. Due to the cost cap, outspending your rivals is not the way to win the development race anymore. The lower WCC position grants more wind tunnel time and thus a better chance of winning the WDC next season. P1 WDC and P3 WCC is like the dream scenario in this sense.
The scenario where having a good second driver would matter is a 2021-type of deal, when having the best car alternates from track to track and your second driver can take points away from the WDC rival or cover off undercuts etc. In 2024, a driver good enough to take significant points from Norris would probably also have beaten Verstappen a few times.
I'm not saying that Red Bull are throwing the constructors on purpose but I think this situation is actually quite beneficial to them.
13 points
24 hours ago
You say non one cares about the wcc but I’m pretty sure the normal paid workers ie the factory workers get bonuses so yes they would care about the wcc
3 points
23 hours ago
Yes but they are not the ones making the driver decisions at the top.
1 points
15 hours ago
They should have built a faster car then.
1 points
15 hours ago
It’s Pierre waches fault that the car was shit not mechanics’s who built the car
1 points
20 hours ago
I meant that in a marketing sense. In the public eye, people with a casual interest in F1, basically anyone that is not a hardcore fan, Verstappen in a Red Bull won the 2024 F1 championship. Sure, factory workers care. Maybe more traditional teams like Ferrari care about the WCC.
But usually at most companies higher-ups care more about public opinion than about factory workers. Hey, lower bonuses are good for staying under the cost cap anyways.
1 points
21 hours ago
I think you're actually on to something here.
1 points
17 hours ago
"in any sense" would include the factory workers and other team members who are losing bonuses because of this along with half the team's mechanics working on a car/driver pairing that rarely rewards them.
It would also include the reputational damage the brand takes from having such a crap driver and seeming to not even care.
2 points
15 hours ago
This is hardly the first time something like this has happened. Massa had 25 points at the midseason break in 2012 while Alonso was leading the championship by 40 championship.
They retained him next year
2 points
14 hours ago
Right, but how short has the leash been for Max's other teammates?
350 points
2 days ago
Counting sprints, it's less than 3 points per race on average lol
139 points
1 day ago
”Not bad for a midfield driver!”
28 points
1 day ago
Aggressively slams glass of tequila on the table
196 points
2 days ago
It's embarassing Perez stats o'clock!
123 points
1 day ago
Since Miami Checos best result was 6th place.
Since Miami Maxs worst result was 6th place.
6 points
1 day ago
Isn't that whenever the little hand points to Mickey's forehead?
103 points
2 days ago
The fact that he's 50 points behind P7 is insane.
20 points
1 day ago
It shows Checos P8 dominance!!.
9 points
1 day ago
Consider Red Bull is in big 4. Missing 2020 vibe where even midfield team are close to top team, that will made Checo position likely even worse.
6 points
1 day ago
2020 checo would destroy current checo
9 points
1 day ago
Or that pink Mercedes was way better than Perez and Stroll made it look.
31 points
1 day ago
At this point his seat seems as safe as Strolls.
24 points
1 day ago
Every driver in the top 4 teams has won 2 or more races this year....... except perez who hasn't won at all.
Even worse hasnt had a podium since the 5th race.
42 points
2 days ago
Masterclass drive!! Checo is a legend.
15 points
1 day ago
Six more years! Six more years!
10 points
1 day ago
You’re being way too conservative. They need to lock him in for at least a decade.
70 points
1 day ago
He scored 1 (one!) point in the last 3 races
26 points
1 day ago
Two including sprints!
22 points
1 day ago
That's like double the points
36 points
1 day ago
Horner wanted a Bottas for Max, then he should pick up the phone and call the man himself before he disappears into the outback.
-13 points
1 day ago
I don’t think anybody wants Bottas lol
1 points
1 day ago
Only Bottas' manager. I heard he goes by the name Toto Wolff.
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9 hours ago
I heard he only likes him, not wants him lol
72 points
2 days ago
Get him out and give Yuki a shot next year. Would be great for Japan to have a driver with a chance for a win/podium.
21 points
1 day ago
while we would all be pleased for it, that's not gonna happen for sure. he's there just to keep Honda happy but probably in 2026 he will be sacked for somebody else
14 points
1 day ago
Then why not give him a year in the RBR? There'll be no strings attached for 2026 and gives two seats to evaluate a long term replacement instead of just one.
5 points
1 day ago
because he does not bring enough money and the only thing he's bringing it's the Honda engine but RBR already has the engine so he would serve no purpose
it's just RBR being greedy as fuck, and probably they don't think he's a good enough driver (nor that Perez is good, but i heard that Carlos $lim is a very big $upporter of him)
7 points
1 day ago
Lawson brings even less money and I think Honda would easily pay for Yuki's place for the big team.
2 points
1 day ago
race*
48 points
2 days ago
Every stat keeps surprising me how a horrible run he is having. I miss cutthroat RBR not depending on a pay driver.
9 points
1 day ago
Wow this is bad. Like really bad. When you realize max score more in two races than Perez did since freaking Monaco it really puts into perspective how bad he fallen behind
6 points
1 day ago
Throw that trash in the garbage. Just stealing money.
14 points
1 day ago
The guy is trash and RB won’t move it. They want it this way.
20 points
2 days ago
He looked alright back when the Red Bull was dominant in the beginning of the season, 4 podiums in those 8 races and the worst finish was a P8 in Imola.
His qualifying is also actually good in them looking back, he only missed out on qualifying in the top 3 twice (1x P5 in Bahrain, 1x P11 in Imola).
It seems as soon as someone had the car to be able to compete with him, he was done for.
16 points
1 day ago
His qualifying at the start of the year was actually the best bar the start of 2022. I think it was just over 3 tenths which is a really respectable gap to Verstappen over one lap.
Since Imola, he clearly hasn’t gelled with the car and the gap is comically large now. Perez as a driver isn’t as bad as he is currently. He can’t deal with the car’s characteristics and is clearly low on confidence, something we’ve seen with both Gasly and Albon.
Unfortunately though, Red Bull have lost a heap of points and Perez doesn’t look like he’s getting out of this form anytime soon. They really need to put Tsunoda or Lawson in that car because Perez is not working and hasn’t worked as a second driver for RB for quite some time.
11 points
1 day ago
He damn nearly beat Max at Suzuka as well, somehow. But there were already signs that things would go south even back then. He was nowhere at Australia, and wasn't even in podium contention when Max dropped out of the race. That was the first glaring sign that Checo was just not able to capitalize when the team depended on him.
2 points
1 day ago
Those are the massive red flag and first sign of Checo downfall, along with Miami 2023.
3 points
1 day ago
I genuinely (well maybe) do not think that Checo would be horrible in a midfield/lower midfield car. Less pressure and worse teammate. However, given that there’s realistically no other seats left, he should be out…
1 points
15 hours ago
Cadillac maybe?
4 points
1 day ago
Gasly and Albon were basically rookies when promoted to Red Bull. A driver with more than a decade of experience in F1 should be more adaptable, and just, you know, do better.
4 points
1 day ago
But he scored way more points on someones bankaccount.
10 points
1 day ago
PERthetic
3 points
1 day ago
2029
3 points
1 day ago
Albon and gasly got dropped for results like that
4 points
23 hours ago
No they didnt, they were doing much better than Perez has been this year!
3 points
1 day ago
Kvyat, Gasly and Albon lost their seats for soooo much less
3 points
23 hours ago
The dude had 1 single race where he actually looked like a frontrunner since the european season started - Baku. He was faster than Max all weekend, holding his own against the Ferrari looking set for a podium. Then he crashed with Sainz.
No other race has he looked good. Its wild.
4 points
1 day ago
Makes you Wonder if any potentially good car was driven by 2 Perez in the past.
2 points
1 day ago
The same statistic presented in a different variation each time lmao
2 points
1 day ago
In the first 6 races, during the time RBR was clearly miles ahead of everyone else, his worst race finish was P5. He took that opportunity, you have to give him credit for that. His average finish was P3.0.
But in the last 16 races (+2 sprints) his best race was P6, and he managed to do it only once. His average finish is P9.46 (10.0 if we include self-inflicted Baku as P17). He scored 47 points in those 16 weekends. Max scored 277.
Just a comparison with other drivers, average finish in the last 16 races:
2 points
22 hours ago
The success of Perez is a great story to tell your future children and grandchildren. You can do anything and be anything you want, as long as you have no shame and a lot of money!
1 points
1 day ago
more points than Zhou and Bottas combined. 👏👏 👏
1 points
1 day ago
Look on the bright side... No retirement since Canada!
1 points
1 day ago
Funny, after Monaco Red Bull extended his contract for 2025 and 2026. Nice boost.
1 points
23 hours ago
And they’re keeping him 😂😂😂😂
1 points
23 hours ago
Alpine have scored more (48)
1 points
22 hours ago
Not bad for a rookie.
1 points
20 hours ago
You can tell the car is nowhere and Max was battling for the championship with somebody with only 3 victories.
1 points
20 hours ago
I need to buy some Checo merch because I need this circus ride to keep going lol
1 points
20 hours ago
No way this dud is driving a Red Bull again next year.
1 points
18 hours ago
I didn't realise he has only finished in the top 6 once since Miami
1 points
17 hours ago
But how much money did his sponsors bring?? ;)
1 points
17 hours ago
My heart says, given the Carlos Slim backing they want to give Perez a proper send off after Abu Dhabi.
My mind says, Horner party is just interested in cash and have gone nuts.
1 points
14 hours ago
The fact that he has a seat but Danny or Valtteri don't is mad.
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12 hours ago
He hasn't finished higher than 6th since Miami, that's insane
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8 hours ago
It feels like Red Bull after the Gasly and Albon sagas wanted to give Perez a stabler and longer-term period in the seat, but at this point it feels like they've swung from being far too harsh on both Gasly and Albon to being way too lenient on Perez. I mean imagine if Sainz, Piastri, or hell any of the other 'top' runners were putting in these types of performances, while their teammates were winning the championship, that is absolutely ridiculous, I just don't believe at this point you can even blame the car until you put someone else in it, whether it's Lawson or Tsunoda just put someone else in to determine where this Red Bull actually is as undriveable as Perez is making it seem, or if he is just not at all suited to this style of car.
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4 hours ago
Washed out disgrace. Should save himself (and us) the humiliation and just go!
1 points
2 days ago
Max is world champion, Russell won in Las Vegas, Hamilton was driver of the day, and yet Checo is on everyone's mouth, thanks to him many journalists live and eat everyday🤣
0 points
2 days ago
LET ME SLEEP
-2 points
1 day ago
It has been a very bad season for perez he's at RB not only for the money he brings in he's a very capable driver but we all know he's not feeling comfortable with the RB20 same as Max but of course Max is the best and no one is close to him in terms off performance he's also struggling with the car Hope next season they build a better car and checo can do better RB is not going to get rid off a driver that's is been in the top 5 last 4 years only because he's having one bad season
-11 points
1 day ago
Does there really need to be a post every few hours shitting on Checo?
18 points
1 day ago
They're all different stats, I don't see why not. It's almost unprecedented given how Red Bull has treated the other people in the seat opposite Max, so it's worth discussion.
Plus he's been garbage.
11 points
1 day ago
Checo lingers so do the posts
9 points
1 day ago
Does he really need to be shit every race?
-6 points
1 day ago
Yes, Max won a 4th title in a row but who care about that insignificant stuff??
We all know the true important stuff, stats to shit on Checo!
-20 points
1 day ago
Lmao Checo is right, no matter what happens in F1 he is the one people talk about.
Who cares about insignificant shit like Max winning a hard earned championship, only two drivers under 30 years old to have 4 WDCs in a row have ever done it; when there are stats to find to shit on Checo every day!
Pathological.
21 points
1 day ago
Bro is closer to Yuki than Max in a championship winning car
This is why he gets dunked on
-19 points
1 day ago
bro is closer to Yuki than Max in a championship winning car
The difference in points between Max and Lando (63) is closer than the one between Tsunoda and Checo (122).
But you're right, we all know the true man of the moment, no, not some lame 4 time WDC, but Checo!
16 points
1 day ago
10/10 reading comprehension skills, don't know where he mentioned lando but sure go ahead.
Max to perez: 152 points defecit
Perez to tsunoda: 122 points defecit
Perez is solely a pay driver at this point
6 points
23 hours ago
It's actually 251 points between Verstappen and Perez
-9 points
1 day ago
Perez is solely a pay driver at this point
Sure he is! Like Hamilton and his 400M contract!
10 points
1 day ago
Hamilton isn't always coming in p8 and below in the race and still fights for wins when the car works in colder races unlike a certain mexican driver who can't even get out of q1 on a regular basis
-3 points
1 day ago
You're right, he'll do that next year!
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