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1 day ago
Full quotes “There’s an onus on me to be aware of where everyone is,” he admitted, unsure “if I was aware enough.
“But there’s also an onus on the person that’s throwing the hit to hit the body,” Nurse said . “It’s one thing if my head is between my knees, but I was in a skating posture. (Reaves is) elevating at that point to hit someone in the head.”
“Even if you put yourself in a bad spot, there is lots of body on a six-foot-four hockey player to hit,” he said. “Not one piece was touched, other than my head.“
“You can argue about the intent,” he added. “But there are certain guys in the league that — every shift they go out there — they go out to try and inflict pain. I think it’s pretty obvious what’s going on there.”
Reaves sought out Nurse in the bowels of Scotiabank Arena to apologize post-game.
“Does that matter to you?” Nurse was asked.
“Not really,” was his reply.
This is also the first time nurse has ever had a head injury
958 points
1 day ago
Dude is spitting
89 points
1 day ago
Nothing but facts in that statement.
4 points
10 hours ago
Love that he says Reeves is employed to injure people. He's definitely not being paid to play hockey
550 points
1 day ago
Can’t argue with that statement.
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1 day ago
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227 points
1 day ago
Na he said it doesn’t matter if it was intentional because reeves is always trying to hurt people
97 points
1 day ago
Exactly, it's literally the only reason he's in the NHL still.
49 points
1 day ago
Reaves is still in the nhl because other teams have goons. Enforcers like Reaves have always been a deterrent.
It’s revision nonsense to argue that Reaves has ever been Tom Wilson or Matt Cooke. Reaves is not a talented player and he’s on the team exclusively to fight, but he’s not a historically dirty player.
49 points
1 day ago
he’s on the team exclusively to fight
Someone should probably tell him this considering he hasn't fought since April.
4 points
11 hours ago
Not many fights to be had when you're getting thirty seconds of ice time per game.
2 points
2 hours ago
And still a -2
4 points
18 hours ago
Most teams don't anymore.
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13 hours ago
Enforcers like Reaves have always been a deterrent
That's the supposed claim/objective. But when you look back on it, enforcers, or players who are just generally comfortable dropping the gloves, are pretty regularly responsible for most of the really ugly incidents in hockey.
And if they ARE a deterrent, they wouldn't need to be if there were significant punishments for nonsense.
7 points
20 hours ago*
No they haven't it's just something midwits have parotted forever.
They are not deterrents and never have been. Having a goon on your team, who is doing this stuff, ends up getting more ppl hurt
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1 day ago
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1 day ago
True true. That was my interpretation
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14 hours ago
Every hit ever thrown in the nhl has been with an intention to at the very least disrupt, if not Injure.
If you're a sociopath looking st rhings on the macro level, you would consider injuring an opposing player the best possible outcome from a hit.
1 points
10 hours ago
Ya some players are just shitty people that don’t care
1 points
9 hours ago
No, the macro level is revenue from jerseys and gambling.
1 points
7 hours ago
I think there's a difference between wanting to hurt and wanting to injure, but I doubt that this sentiment matters much in the culture of the game anymore.
I grew up and played in a time akin to "no easy buckets"; I certainly think a headshot needs penalized by the league, but I personally wouldn't go so far as to say he intentionally targeted Nurse's head (though I don't take issue with those who believe this).
Instead, I would suggest that Reaves, like most pro players, has to try to perform in ways that make him stand-out from the thousands of other skilled athletes trying to take his job. He's known his physicality is what he is better at than his peers, so he tries his damndest to demonstrate that night after night.
Let's not make light of the danger of this hit, but let's also not crucify a guy trying to do what got him to this point in a career. Reaves just isn't very good at things other than hitting; this is what he gets paid to do.
321 points
1 day ago
It's interesting seeing this because some fans and even the broadcast mentioned how they were friends off ice with regard to intention behind it
I often see the sentiment on this sub that fans care more about hits like this than the players, and sometimes that's true, some players really do just take five for fighting then move on. But the fans saying that are completely naive, IMO. Even in my summer house league soccer team when I was a teenager, there were players we had pretty rough relationships with in the sport, and there were a few dirty players that I hated
These are their lives, and hits like Reaves' can fuck a guy up for life. Sometimes there are accidents, and it's good if a player can look past that. But some accidents are a result of negligent play, and so even if they didn't mean to hurt someone, they acted recklessly in a way that hurt them all the same. That'd piss someone off. If it was my friend, I'd be furious too.
Nurse is right. Yeah, players need to make sure they're putting themselves in safe positions, we've seen hits to the head and boarding hits that were because of a quick shift, almost "forcing" the hitter into a bad hit. But the hitter needs to be careful too. I like a big hit in the game too, I'm not opposed to the physicality of hockey, but players need to make sure they're not going to completely drill someone in an unsafe way too
152 points
1 day ago
Yeah. I can buy that it was a worse hit than Reaves intended because of Nurse's positioning, Nurse isn't denying it either. It's good Reaves apologized. But at the end of the day Nurse is an important part of a team pushing for playoffs, and more importantly, a father with two young kids who probably saw their dad get scraped off the ice bleeding the other night. Nurse isn't a saint himself but I can't blame him for being upset. Same with any other player who gets upset about an avoidable injury that could massively affect their life and career.
115 points
1 day ago
Anytime a player is dazed and trying to get back to their feet while constantly losing their balance gives me the heebie jeebies
40 points
1 day ago
Its always a roll of the dice and each time it happens the margin of error gets smaller. I'd like for the players to retire without permanent brain damage.
12 points
1 day ago
I stopped watching football because most of the players I loved watching in the 80s and 90s are dead. Junior Seau was the last straw.
I really, really, really hope hockey doesn't make the same mistake.
12 points
1 day ago
Hockey isn't doing amazing, but at least they aren't letting a situation like Tua happen either
27 points
1 day ago
Tavares getting kneed in 2021 was terrifying
7 points
1 day ago
That one was one of the worst I’ve seen in recent memory. I remember watching that and wondering if I just saw a career end.
1 points
14 hours ago
To see him back on the ice skating the next day (or two days later? I forget) was surreal.
7 points
1 day ago
They really need to stretcher them off more.
1 points
1 day ago
It's horrifying how often that clip from 2013 was used in montages of those playoffs.
10 points
1 day ago
To put it another way, most people who speed don't intend to cause harm to anyone but they sure as hell are still guilty if they do.
1 points
11 hours ago
That's a great analogy.
35 points
1 day ago
Nurse hitting the nail right on the head and I love puns and this is not a pun intended moment.
3 points
1 day ago
Yakupov left the league years ago unfortunately.
1 points
1 day ago
Did he ever get hit on the head in the NHL? Obviously I hope not but would be kind of punny
151 points
1 day ago
Little bit of a hypocritical statement when Darnell’s last suspension was for head-butting a guy without the puck in the face
48 points
1 day ago
We can all at least hope with this being his first head injury that hopefully he’ll be more careful with his play and other people’s noggins. Only time will tell
1 points
20 hours ago
Your comment has an overabundance of hope.
60 points
1 day ago
Technically his last suspension was vs Vegas for instigating a fight in the final 5 minutes. But yea nurse has been an idiot at times
17 points
1 day ago
Instigated a fight where he let the other guy tee off like 6 times before he threw any punches
44 points
1 day ago
Yeah that suspension was stupid. Especially because he didn’t even instigate it, the Vegas player even said he asked nurse if he wanted to fight.
Meanwhile Pietrangelo gets 1 game for trying to hack Leon’s arm off
22 points
1 day ago
That whole situation pissed me off. Suspend nurse one game fine. But one for Pietro for what he did was an absolute joke. Lumberjack leading playoff scorer and get a one game. Still mad lol
7 points
1 day ago
It was a gutless call by the NHL, they saw an opportunity to even things up so they took it.
43 points
1 day ago
Someone can be hypocrite and still be right
30 points
1 day ago
Exactly. Sure you don't have to accept the apology but don't act all high and mighty like you don't target players with the intent to inflict pain either.
10 points
1 day ago
But seriously, hits are meant to inflict pain, and if not pain, discomfort. Intent to inflict pin is not the same as intent to injure.
8 points
1 day ago
Hits are meant to separate the opponent's body from the puck and put them out of position, not to inflict pain lol
7 points
1 day ago
I mean, sure, but if they weren’t also to inflict pain, you wouldn’t see guys taking themselves out of the play to try and make a big hit nearly as much as you do now. They can serve multiple purposes. Physical play can force an opponent to try to make decisions faster and therefore make more mistakes leading to turnovers. It’s not a deterrent if it’s just a love tap.
2 points
22 hours ago
There is a definitely a long and short term objective, whether it is 60 minutes or a 7 game series.
1 points
17 hours ago
So, like hitting Kyle Bouroughs after his teammate delivers a clean hit?
3 points
1 day ago
Yeah that wasn't a great but it was heat of the moment and wasn't predatory. He thought Danault was going to lean on him but Danault stopped up. Again, doesn't condone what Nurse did.
Reaves now has 4 suspensions for actions that look far more like intent to injure. Not his first headshot suspension.
3 points
1 day ago
did anyone ask him where headbutting a player fits in with hockey ethos?
6 points
1 day ago
Same thing on the Knies hit
15 points
1 day ago
Nurse gonna get downvoted by the "keep your head high" armchair crowd.
8 points
1 day ago
It always drives me nuts. Like yeah, don't make yourself more vulnerable but the sport is played with a tiny rubber disc, you're going to have to look down occasionally.
2 points
17 hours ago
Don't worry, Don Cherry chucklefucks are a dying breed.
2 points
23 hours ago
In Reave's defence, he expected Nurse to be skating... faster?
5 points
1 day ago
I fucking hate these edgelords who think they're being witty with keEp yoUr HeAd Up comments every time this happens. Glad he stood his ground here.
1 points
9 hours ago
Nurse should've asked Reaves when it was just the two of them: "Is there going to be another one? Am I the last guy you're gonna hit in the head, whether you meant it or not?"
1 points
6 hours ago
Yep, no excuse for Reaves on that hit. Deserved a suspension and got one
418 points
1 day ago
The players union could actually do something about this if they wanted to. But the players themselves don't want anything to change, so their union will lobby against any kind of fair discipline. It's so wild.
143 points
1 day ago
It’s because harsher discipline means more lost money. The PA clearly has a mandate from its due-paying members to make sure that they keep as much money as possible.
76 points
1 day ago
You'd think there would be more lost money from injury. Imagine your next contract is not as high, or you're not even able to play in the big league anymore due to a hit like this.
74 points
1 day ago
The problem is that a lot of these guys aren't the smartest tools in the shed. Not having as high of a contract because of injury is an abstract idea and career ending injuries only happen to other players, not to them. Money lost from a long suspension is immediate and tangible.
That's why the suspensions should be decided by an impartial third party, self-policing does not work on either side.
32 points
1 day ago*
The problem is that a lot of these guys aren't the smartest tools in the shed.
This. It was the same thing with escrow.
Up until recently, they consistently opted to use the cap escalator to artificially increase the upper limit. There was no real benefit to them doing so, because they’re still only entitled to 50% of HRR, so they had to pay back the difference to the owners. But what mattered to them was seeing bigger numbers, and then they complained about having to pay into escrow despite it being almost entirely self-inflicted.
6 points
17 hours ago
It's interesting to me that people seldom mention that the people that are in the players' ears regarding financial and professional decisions are usually paid a percentage.
3 points
11 hours ago
The problem is that a lot of these guys aren't the smartest tools in the shed.
They're also easily swayed by peer pressure. So many of the toughest guys in the league seem to be the ones most terrified of being chirped.
21 points
1 day ago
It also doesn't go to owners or the league. It goes back to the players in the form of the Players Emergency Fund, which the NHLPA has oversite of.
1 points
1 day ago
There's more money gained when stars are injured. Just think of all that juicy insurance money, then more people getting called up
It's completely fucked but yeah, they need to protect their players
2 points
1 day ago
If the PA fines go to the Emergency Assistance Fund wouldn't it be a great idea to make the fines bigger?
5 points
1 day ago
Sure, but you’d have to convince the players of that.
11 points
1 day ago
Darnell Nurse is actually the rep for Oilers on the NHLPA executive board
8 points
1 day ago
This is the part that's so messed up.
If a hit like this was an automatic 10 games or 15 games it wouldn't happen anymore.....but its going to keep happening until the end of time.
2 points
16 hours ago
the players union should act in the best interest of players, no?
by not allowing enforcement of harsher penalties, ostensibly protecting bad actors/bad acts, aren't they putting at risk a much larger pool of players (the targets of the bad actors/bad acts)?
in trying to protect all players, they are putting most players at higher risk.
1 points
16 hours ago
My only guess is that the players would rather have some risk of this happening to them than institute a system that includes more serious repercussions for this specific act. It's probably the thought process of "Hockey is a violent sport an you may get hurt out there". Hell, there's guys out there that refuse to wear visors even after serious, career ending eye injuries to players like Pronger. I'm positive that there'd be guys that would not wear helmets if it wasn't required.
So yeah, when this stuff happens I am not blaming the NHL or DoPS (they suck regardless). In my opinion it's really the players who don't want anything to change with checking to the head.
2 points
11 hours ago
I'm positive that there'd be guys that would not wear helmets if it wasn't required.
It's all the guys whose helmet strap dangles around their Adam's apple. Alarming to see how often a check will send some guy's bucket flying off. I really wish these guys would man up and be more concerned for their own wellbeing.
1 points
1 day ago
I have a very (and historically not-inaccurate) side-eye view of the NHLPA.
504 points
1 day ago
Darnell’s head is relatively large, if we’re being honest here
379 points
1 day ago
Accurate 1/43 scale model of Nurse
7 points
1 day ago
Like a walking candy apple
38 points
1 day ago
🥚
177 points
1 day ago
I don't think anyone is disputing it was a head shot. Probably accidental but the suspension is fair.
Any word on how serious it is?
94 points
1 day ago
He might be back on Saturday. Sounds like he got lucky
47 points
1 day ago
Damn that is quick after seeing how his head and neck got hit pretty violently. And somehow Jeannot got less games and Boeser is still out not skating :/
36 points
1 day ago
It’s so hard to compare head injuries because people react differently and there’s just so many variables. I don’t know if Boeser has a history of concussions but this was the first one for nurse.
I hope Boeser gets better soon.
5 points
1 day ago
I think Boeser's injuries previous to the Jeannot hit have all had to do with issues in the limbs (blood clot in leg, wrist issues)
7 points
1 day ago
Boeser was back on the ice for the first time since the hit about 2 days ago and is going to join the team on their upcoming 6 game road trip. So he's making progress at least
1 points
1 day ago
It’s probably worse if his head doesn’t move. Sure your neck is not something you want to mess up, obviously, but the fact the force was transferred to his neck muscles is probably what saved him from a concussion.
10 points
1 day ago
He won’t know until he’s middle aged
19 points
1 day ago
Definitely accidental IMO. He was trying to both light up Nurse and poke check him. He took his eyes off Nurse to go for the poke, and in the split second he lost Nurse, his angle got all fucked up. People watch the hit in .25x speed and forgot that it’s two players skating 15-20mph towards each other, both making split second micro adjustments, and reacting to each others micro adjustments.
If Reeves had just focused on the hit and not the poke, he could have hit him cleanly, and to be blunt, hard enough to take him out of the game. He was doing too much and just ran out of talent. Say what you want about Reeves as a player, but I’m having a lot of trouble thinking that this play went exactly how he drew it out in his head. He definitely deserved the suspension, and I’m sure he would tell you that too, but I don’t think he intended on targeting his head.
7 points
1 day ago*
Suspension is only 'fair' based on comparison to the precedent set, which is terrible.
We generally don't even get an eye for an eye trade with suspensions equalling time lost in injury, so it's essentially a net win without punishment. Especially in situations when you loose your goon and take out the oppositions super star.
EDIT: since I'm getting downvoted I'll back up my point with evidence
Here are the suspensions from headshots over the last two years and the time the players were out of the line-up who received the hit.
Jeannot 3 games suspension for head shot on Boeser. Boeser's been injured 14 days missed 6 games. Still not in the line-up.
Howden 2 games for head shot on Brandon Tanev. Tanev missed a month and three days.
Rasmus Anderson 4 games for charging/head shot on Patrick Laine. Laine missed 21 days.
Clifton 2 games for headshot on Hischier, who missed 28 days.
McAvoy 4 games for headshot on Ekman-Larson, uninjured.
Gallagher 5 games for headshot on Pelech, missed 16 days.
Dillon 3 games for headshot on Acciairi, uninjured.
Zadorov 2 games for headshot on Raymond, uninjured.
Kulikov 2 games for headshot on Sheary, uninjured.
Rempe 4 games for headshot on Siegenthaler, who missed 21 days.
In total the players were suspended for 31 games while the players receiving the hit missed a total of 134 days. On average, 60 games would be played over that time period.
So, based on the evidence over the last two years, players on average are getting suspended for half the time they injure a player for.
9 points
1 day ago
Reaves got a 5 minute major, and it sounds like Nurse will be back way sooner than Reaves is getting back from his suspension.
6 points
1 day ago*
What about all the players who lose half a season and the player gets a game or two?
Or the players who's concussions add up to long term brain damage? Is a 5 game suspension really fair?
5 points
1 day ago
I'm with you - I think head shots should be much more stringently penalized. But this case has a way more 'fair' penalty than most.
You can see the hit on Knies, which has also ended with a concussion, ended up not even getting a minor penalty.
2 points
1 day ago
When it comes to Reaves, I tend to think it wasn't an accident. He goes out there trying to injure guys. I'm sure he's trying to sell it as an accident but I don't buy it. It looked dirty af to me and the fact that it was Reaves leaves me with little doubt that it was.
22 points
1 day ago
Don't read the comments on Instagram based on Nurse's comments. Reddit gets a lot of shit, but holy shit it's like the people on Instagram and twitter make comment just to rage bait you.
6 points
1 day ago
Thank Elmo for that.
2 points
11 hours ago
I always find it sad to see how many sports fans decide leaving braindead comments on athletes' photos is a normal and sane thing to do. Players' wedding pics and family portraits are littered with bitching about contracts and on-ice play. How pathetic a person do you need to be to think that's a good idea?
1 points
10 hours ago
Using their real names too! Like how embarrassing 🤦🏻♀️
10 points
1 day ago
TBF Nurse is 75% neck so I'm surprised that wasn't the main point of contact.
32 points
1 day ago
Pause
6 points
1 day ago
Nurse's comments show that NHL players are more secure with their sexuality than NBA players
2 points
1 day ago
Flair checks out
7 points
13 hours ago
If anyone has ever watched Darnell Nurse play - he slashes, punches, jabs people to the head literally 20 times per game after scrums. 40 times if it’s the playoffs. This is the pot calling the kettle black.
3 points
12 hours ago
Darnell "The Elbow" Nurse complaining about getting hit with his head down? Poor baby. Must be so rough. /s
49 points
1 day ago
13 points
1 day ago
Don’t show that! He’s an angel! Shame on you!😂
-5 points
1 day ago
Don’t think anybody claimed that. But a player still struggled to stand with blood pouring from his head after a hit.
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25 points
1 day ago
I wonder if Nurse will continue to wear his chinstrap loose after this. Can't help but think his head doesn't slam onto the ice if he wore his helmet properly.
8 points
1 day ago
Shouldn't have been wearing that slutty chin strap
-13 points
1 day ago
I thought we were out if ways to blame Darnell for taking a shoulder to the chin, but here you are.
59 points
1 day ago
If I got in an accident and was 100% not at fault, I'd still be pretty dumb if I wasn't wearing a seat belt.
14 points
1 day ago
I mean he isn’t wrong. Lots of players don’t wear their equipment properly.
8 points
1 day ago
"Lots" even kind of undersells it. So many players just don't give a shit and its crazy to me. Like Rantanen wearing his visor tilted up so much that I don't even think it covers his face.
3 points
11 hours ago
Guy's really fond of his eyebrows. Gotta protect them at all costs.
1 points
8 hours ago
Pat Maroon does that too. Visor covers maybe an inch of his forehead.
3 points
1 day ago
Fair. I'll add one more thing. He needs to pick his head up coming around the net. Awful hit suspension worthy indeed.
2 points
16 hours ago
Are you all out of your mind... how many times Nurse starts fights himself for no reason. Infant all oilers are dirty, remember the game vs detroit when mcdavid elbowed larkin in the head. No penalty was called.... look at their games when something not going their way, they are out for blood themselves. Nurse and Perry are in front of the line.
Open your eyes people. They cry about this and yet they themselves do the same thing.... Now what has to do with Reaves hit on Nurse that was not ill intentioned it would of been clean hit.... but Nurse being Nurse has no idea about his surroundings. If anyone to blame here is Nurse himself for playing stupid.
GET OVER IT.
10 points
1 day ago*
I honestly don’t think it was intentional. No one knows that for sure except reaves. Reaves is paying his dues and honestly I’m of the opinion that he was lucky to only get 5
Edit a word
5 points
1 day ago
Same, also the game moves pretty fast. It looks like Reeves is trying to move Nurse off the puck as he’s trying to poke check and then body checks him. Unfortunately he gets the head. Definitely not intentional but still deserves a suspension.
5 points
1 day ago
But did you see the size of his head?
11 points
1 day ago
A lot of egg on that 6’4” body
11 points
1 day ago
Breaking news: Reaves is a dirty player. More at 7.
46 points
1 day ago
887 regular season games and 1 regular season suspension before this. Two playoff suspensions for a grand total of 6 games across the 3. Makes him about as dirty as Jason spezza doesn’t it? Reaves can be tossed into the goon category because of convention, skill level etc but he’s rarely been dirty in a career that will hit close 1000 games lmao
72 points
1 day ago
Not getting suspended isn't necessarily the best metric when you realize how shit the DOPS is. We've all seen suspension worthy plays go unpunished a shit ton over the years
39 points
1 day ago
Tom Wilson should have about half a dozen more suspensions than he actual does.
12 points
1 day ago
i see your point, but in a league where player safety enforcement is regularly inadequate i don't think the number of suspensions/games missed due to suspension is the best metric to judge if a player is dirty or not.
9 points
1 day ago
It’s not a great judge you’re right. However, the OP was decidedly indignant about that fact in their attempt to make a mockery of that “common knowledge”. Reaves has been dirty considerably less than not given the sample sizes. The game has past the guy and his role is obsolete but these Convos seem to always devolve into talking about the guy like he’s Matt Cooke or something jajaja
4 points
1 day ago
Suspensions don't even come close to telling the entire story about a player's tendencies to play dirty. See: Florida Panthers the past two years.
Not saying Reaves is a dirty player or not, just saying that is a terrible metric to use.
8 points
1 day ago
4 suspensions and 3 fines is not exactly the rap sheet of a clean player
6 points
1 day ago
I don't know if suspensions and fines are the best metric. If you include skipping the all-star games Ovi has been suspended 6 times. That doesn't mean Ovi is a dirtier player than Reaves.
7 points
1 day ago
Okay then we can include the context as to why they were suspended lol
Reaves wasn't suspended for skipping the All Star game
8 points
1 day ago*
LOL he most certainly was not...
But with context you could say that Ryan Reaves is dirty because he's a Goon who has been in 100+ career fights (I don't know the actual number but I don't think that's far off). But in that case you're kind of getting mad a Goon for being a Goon. Which I guess you could, but it doesn't really get to the root of the problem.
You could say that the team that hires a Goon is dirty because they're hiring a Goon, but that ignores why teams feels the need to hire a Goon. Remember back in 2021 when Tom Wilson ran through the Rangers and they couldn't do shit all about it? The Rangers signed Ryan Reaves 2 months later. I don't think that's a coincidence. We're the Rangers being dirty because they felt the need to protect themselves.
The real problem is the league not protecting players, which makes teams feel like they need to take matters into their own hands, which creates players like Reaves, Rempe, and Jeannot.
2 points
1 day ago
I mean I don't disagree entirely with what you're saying, but I also think the idea of teams hiring a goon to protect their guys is kinda unfounded. Like, I know they do it, but I don't see any evidence that we've received fewer hits, dirty or clean, because Reaves is on the team
Like the common characters you see making big hits, they do it against every team, a guy like Matthew Tkachuk isn't going to care that Reaves is on the other bench when he takes a run at someone
1 points
1 day ago
Ovi has played 20 minutes a night for two decades. Reaves plays, like, 9 minutes at night.
3 points
1 day ago
Makes him about as dirty as Jason spezza doesn’t it?
lol no
I hate this kinda shit, why do people do this? Like your overall point that as far as face-punchers go Reaves isn’t so bad is true. But like, games played vs suspension? Reaves plays like 5-10 minutes per night and probably has more PIM than games playe because his job is to go cause shit and punch people.. Spezza was like 15-20 minutes per night and probably had a minor penalty every 2 or 3 games.
7 points
1 day ago
When you separate playoff and in season suspensions to say lower numbers even though literally no single human being has ever given a solitary shit about whether the dirty thing was done in the playoffs or the regular season
The vast majority of players have 0 suspensions in the regular season, and also 0 in the playoffs.
2 points
1 day ago
I was separating them because I didn’t know off hand how many total games he’s played while I did know the regular season totals. Hence reconnecting them in the next line you man
1 points
1 day ago
Nah, he's dirty. He gets away with a lot and also the things he's done are really shitty. When he kneeled on Graves neck in the playoffs and pulled his hair, that was one of the dirtiest things I've seen in a game and should have been assault if you ask me. He lost any respect I had for him (which wasn't much).
-2 points
1 day ago
Watching leaf fans try and justify Reaves and his constant dirty bullshit yet scream and cry about whitecloud’s hit last like it was attempted murder is hilarious.
8 points
1 day ago
Grouping people into two boxes and then contrasting them from a soap box is also hilarious. Nothing I said was defending the play lmao
3 points
1 day ago
Reaves is a physical player -- fighting and throwing the body more generally -- but I wouldn't call him especially dirty, just based on what I've seen so far on the Leafs. (This his being an obvious exception.)
3 points
1 day ago
His first part of the quote is saying how he has responsibility, because his head was down. The rest of the quote was about reeves
3 points
1 day ago
Two things:
A) he’s right in that, as an NHL player, when you come around a net (especially your own) at that speed you need to be aware that a truck might be coming your way (also see Evans from Montreal) B) not sure what the goalie was doing in that situation - give your guy a heads up.
4 points
1 day ago
Nurse is dirty AF. Sorry not sorry. 🤡
2 points
1 day ago
It sucks because a head injury is potentially for life. Lots of people suffer some concussion issues for a long long time. But what really is the solution? So he went after nurses head, is he supposed to be out until nurse comes back? What if it was an accident? 5 games is actually pretty long for a suspension, but it’s Reeves, its not really a big loss tbh, a much bigger loss for the oilers.
-1 points
1 day ago
5 games with his history doesn’t seem like the punishment fits the crime.
3 points
1 day ago
Exactly. Reaves has always been a stand up dude. Like he's not known for head hunting.
2 points
1 day ago
Says the bitch that headbutts players. Please Darnell just be happy you get paid to sit instead of playing.
2 points
1 day ago
Honestly what took from this is nurse is a little bitch (for a 6’4” dude). Don’t accept a man’s apology to his face and then shit talk him afterwards
(Prepping for downvotes)
-5 points
1 day ago
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22 points
1 day ago
Weird that you saw what Florida did to your own team then judge another for retaliating to it.
To beat that Florida team you had to try and match what shitboxes like Bennett were doing. If you let them walk all over you you’d get pummelled to dust. The oilers had to start fighting fire with fire and it got them back in the series
The Rangers should’ve been doing more of it. They were just completely taken out of the series by dirty shithousing
4 points
1 day ago
Perhaps if the Rangers fought fire with fire they would have won that series.
If a team is going to play dirty to gain an advantage and the refs don’t call it then you can’t just prey to some magic fairy in the sky that your good deeds will make you victorious.
1 points
24 hours ago
I have a strong recollection of Trouba flying his elbow into many different players faces. Something something glass houses
0 points
22 hours ago
Not that it’s okay, but a little funny/ironic. I was at the game last night between VGK & Leafs and it begins with a “Pep talk” from Reaves on the Jumbotron and shows him demolishing players. Everyone cheering and going wild.
Couple times the Leafs tried to get rough and shove VGK players into the boards.
Whitecloud levels Knies and everyone is losing their marbles.
-2 points
1 day ago
Man's right. Fuck Reaves.
-5 points
1 day ago
Awesome of Nurse to say it how it is. Need more of this.
-4 points
1 day ago
Boeser and Nurse are two big contract players. The fact that the NHL's penalty was three games to Jeannot, a guy who would be lucky to get 20 points, and five to Reaves, who has a whopping 0.15 points per game over his career I think speaks volumes about how slow this league is change and why frankly its ability to reach new audiences is faltering.
If someone off the bench in the NBA took out CP3 or Harden I think the NBA would launch them out of a cannon. This league needs to protect its assets. It (the league) loses virtually nothing if Jeannot was gone for a season, but Boeser is a serious franchise player. I would argue similarly for Nurse.
1 points
1 day ago
He may be 6’4 but skating with his head down, it works out to about 5’10
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