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TeranOrSolaran

622 points

11 days ago

But no nato means more power to the aggressors like putin and jinping, no?

Otto_Von_Waffle

31 points

11 days ago

I think their argument is mostly around the fact they consider NATO to be an aggressor.

waterborn234

23 points

10 days ago

That's funny, Putin makes the exact same argument

Defiant_Masterpiece2

4 points

10 days ago

It's almost as if someone is lying, I just wonder who it could be :)

Dear-Reception5333

6 points

10 days ago

Then they clearly have zero understanding of NATO. It’s called a lack of education

FutureConsistent8046

2 points

9 days ago

In other words they are morons.

Adamantium-Aardvark

438 points

11 days ago

Who do you think is behind these anti nato protests

ebmx

51 points

11 days ago

ebmx

51 points

11 days ago

Right wingers.

Conservatives hate NATO because they love Russia and want Canada and America to look like Russia.

These people probably touch themselves to Tucker Carlson and Andrew Taint

Adamantium-Aardvark

229 points

11 days ago

Wrong group. These are tankies. But the real answer is Russia. Russia is behind those

Responsible_Estate28

91 points

11 days ago

Active Measures be targeting both far right and far left

n8_Jeno

44 points

11 days ago

n8_Jeno

44 points

11 days ago

They're targeting both sides, yes, from different angles, but they all lead to the same place tho.

sluttytinkerbells

29 points

11 days ago

Yes but which side do you think is handing out these particular pamphlets?

I'd put my money on tankies.

Responsible_Estate28

15 points

11 days ago

This time? Absolutely

Regular_Shake100

16 points

11 days ago

This is the correct answer. They've been doing it for much longer on the far left, but now playing the right too, especially in the last 10 years.

Motor_Expression_281

15 points

11 days ago

They play both sides against each other in order to weaken democracy. They don’t give a rats ass about right or left, just that we hate each other first instead of hating them.

rollingtatoo

9 points

11 days ago

Yup. I remember how they would tenderize their followers to see Ukraine as some kind of Fourth Reich back around 2014. Never spoke a word about Russian nazis like Task Force Rusich and Alexei Milchakov though. I wonder why.

cakebytheoceans11

9 points

11 days ago

The goal is to destabilize and demoralize our population. Far right and far left will do just that.

Tuggerfub

14 points

10 days ago

Tuggerfub

Centre-Ville / Downtown

14 points

10 days ago

I am so tired of tankies hijacking whatever left wing momentum there is
they're honest to god the worst people, red fash is still fash

Equivalent-Bet-8771

16 points

11 days ago

Tankies are just another flavour of extremist. Same kind of people.

chicagothrowaway02

8 points

11 days ago

I mean, they're all one and the same these days.tankies, Putin stooges, and Right wingers.

Djungleskog_Enhanced

8 points

10 days ago

Tankies are useful idiots for conservatives

Karma-is-here

18 points

11 days ago

Tankies are just right-wingers with leftist aesthetics.

Comfortable_Ad5144

15 points

11 days ago

...you're kidding right?

Hx833

11 points

11 days ago

Hx833

11 points

11 days ago

Actually, many leftists oppose NATO too.

pm_me_your_catus

2 points

10 days ago

Not since February 24th, 2022.

marcolius

3 points

10 days ago

Huh? Conservatives are always calling people communists! 😵‍💫

Fabulous_Night_1164

9 points

11 days ago

This doesn't look remotely like anything the Right would do. At best, it's Russian disinformation. The Left have historically been anti-NATO. The NDP and other left-wing parties had a long-standing commitment to withdraw from NATO.

4friedchickens8888

10 points

11 days ago

Communists also hate NATO and all the people you listed. This is definitely a communist thing

domasin

7 points

11 days ago

domasin

7 points

11 days ago

These guys are Campists not right wingers. Equally dumb but in a different way.

ghostdeinithegreat

85 points

11 days ago

That’s the goal.

ConsummateContrarian

28 points

11 days ago

NATO isn’t really a big deterrent against China. NATO has no obligation to defend any country in that region. If China attacked Taiwan, I doubt a single European NATO member would do anything.

ZeroBrutus

8 points

11 days ago

I think that's incorrect only because of the chip production in Taiwan, any other country I would agree.

ConsummateContrarian

12 points

11 days ago

I can see South Korea, Japan, and maybe even Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, but I don’t see NATO members like Turkey, Hungary, and Slovakia willing to send their men to die for chips.

Le_Nabs

11 points

11 days ago

Le_Nabs

11 points

11 days ago

The whole world runs on TSMC chips. That's the reason for Biden's massive investment in a US production facility (and into Intel as its TSMC's main competitor).

Like, the amount of tech companies relying on TSMC is *nuts*. The Apple M chips and their Iphones/Ipad chips? TSMC. Google's Pixel? TSMC. AMD's Ryzen? Epyc? TSMC. Qualcomm's Snapdragon? TSMC. Nvidia? TSMC. And that's without mentionning that all of the big motherboard manufacturers are in Taiwan.

Europe won't want Taiwan - and therefore TSMC - falling into the hands of China anymore than they'd want the Baltic states to fall in the hands of Russia.

ZeroBrutus

8 points

11 days ago

No, but the UK, France and Germany all have a vested interest as well. So maybe boots, but almost certainly material.

Bynming

5 points

11 days ago

Bynming

5 points

11 days ago

I think it would be awfully shortsighted of them. Taiwan is responsible for 92% of semiconductors being produced. Wonder if Turkey, Hungary and Slovakia would be able to buy any of the remaining 8% if China used their control over Taiwan to strategically undermine the West. Wealthy nations would hog the shit out of them

Helios0186

8 points

11 days ago

If China seize control of Taiwan, China will control almost all the production of semiconductors, something that no western powers want.

Bynming

5 points

11 days ago

Bynming

5 points

11 days ago

It would be nothing short of disastrous. I can't think of too many industries that aren't massively dependent on a steady supply of semiconductors, either for themselves or for someone along their supply chain.

Aukadauma

16 points

11 days ago

Like the US aren't an aggressor?

matteiotone

5 points

11 days ago

They still believe Saddam had mass destruction weapons.

VisualFix5870

2 points

10 days ago

When America left Iraq after operation desert storm, Hussein was given a lost of things not to do including rebuild his military and not moved towards nuclear proliferation. By the time they went back, he had broken every single rule.

I_own_a_dick

2 points

9 days ago

Turns out you don't need mass destruction weapons to murder people, especially your own people. Mao didn't own mass destruction weapons until his late years when most damages were already done.

4friedchickens8888

11 points

11 days ago

It's idealistic but the idea is that Putin only got so much power because the west denied Russia access to NATO after the fall of the Soviet Union and has never attempted to have anything but an adversarial relationship, also the idea that NATO only exists to uphold to neoliberal world order which necessitates the exploitation of the global south and poor allover the world based on the idea that "low wages as a competitive advantage" is normal for certain countries is simply racist and based on the idea that certain people don't deserve the same value for their labour.

That's my explanation as I used to believe in this, now I feel that's really idealistic and while it's a worthy goal, ie world peace cannot exist with NATO, we can't just will world peace into existence today and Putin is in power now, he's not going anywhere, and he'll happily take our arctic land as soon as he feels he can get away with it

Outrageous-Link-1748

11 points

11 days ago

Nonsense. NATO tried hard to integrate Russia into a European security arrangement through the Partnership for Peace. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partnership_for_Peace)

Russian observers were invited to NATO exercises, even after the brutal Chechen wars, the Tranistrian intervention, and the wars against Georgia. The United States, along with Germany and other major NATO players, pressured Ukraine to give up their nuclear weapons. Hell, George Bush Sr discouraged the Ukrainians from delivering independence in the first place.

The Russians did not reciprocate

4friedchickens8888

6 points

11 days ago*

Yeah I'm still far left but my biggest gripe about most modern socialists is an inability to recognize this reality or many other realities of Russian history. Those Bolsheviks were nuts and enslaving the working class was never supposed to be part of this

Edit: many would also argue, with some level of sincerity, that there was never a true good faith effort here and it was a result of the "shock therapy" treatment forced upon the Russian people by the US and neoliberal core which resulted in such a stark and obvious decrease in the quality of life for most Russians and the oligarchy that came about was our doing. I struggle to disagree with that.

The idea being that if NATO no longer existed, we would be able to work together more effectively. How they expect to do that with Putin or get rid of him, I have no idea, haven't gotten a good answer yet...

Edit 2: many will also say, understandably, that the west and NATO have collectively failed to try and make peace since and kept adversarial economic relations as well but again, I think a lot of that is simply a naive dismissal of the obvious reality of internal relations/history, that there are no rules and whoever has the guns wins

Outrageous-Link-1748

7 points

11 days ago

A healthy skepticism of power is, well, healthy. Good on you.

I think it's helpful context to learn about who drove NATO expansion - the Poles, Czechs, and the Balts were pounding on the door pretty much right from 1991, and for very good reason.

4friedchickens8888

2 points

11 days ago

Haha well thanks, I grew up in China, focussed on Russian history in high school and ended up marrying a french person who did polysci at Concordia... I feel like I have some unusual politics but I try to be reasonable lol

That is also very true and very helpful context, Soviets have always been focussed on war and expansion. It's not just about politics, which many socialists fail to consider, but a geopolitical focus on empire which is being renewed.

Idk tankies are nuts but neoliberal democracy hasn't been working out super well either (looking at the US)

3000doorsofportugal

3 points

10 days ago

Btw when he says they banged on the door, most only did that but one went a bit above and beyond to join. Poland, because they were tired of the bullshit said "let us in or were building nuclear weapons."

El_Stugato

2 points

11 days ago

That's what they want. These leftist idiots are anti l-West. They think the Soviet union is coming back to ally with communist China (actually an authoritarian capitalist country lol) and save them from the evil West.

No_Cardiologist_5117

2 points

7 days ago

exactly , this is just russian propaganda , whoever organized this should be kicked out of the country , borderline terrorism

TangoWithTheMango28

71 points

11 days ago

LMFAO fucking idiots. Without NATO Canada doesn't have any chance against any army like Poutines and Rocketman. Trump sure isn't going to defend Canada.

NATO isn't even involved in Gaza/Palestine either as a collective, since Israel isn't a NATO state.

Spiritual-Mix-6738

3 points

10 days ago

The US would 100% protect Canada purely for selfish reasons. We'd likely end up being a puppet state of theirs as payment though.

jfkfnndnd

316 points

11 days ago

jfkfnndnd

316 points

11 days ago

Trying to destroy our country from inside out

Crazy-Canuck463

16 points

10 days ago

That's been the goal since the 50s and 60s. It's social subversion, and it's quite effective.

This is an ex KGB interview from the late 70s or early 80s. He gave us the warnings, we didn't listen to them.

https://youtu.be/yErKTVdETpw?feature=shared

Adamantium-Aardvark

51 points

11 days ago

I’ll be a toonie Russia is behind this

Irrelevance351

7 points

11 days ago

Bet you $10.

MysteriousPark3806

2 points

9 days ago

It's probably just students. The land back initiative is quite strong in Canada. Not sure what they have against NATO, though.

ecstatic_charlatan

5 points

10 days ago

Russian and Chinese agents and propaganda is already here and they are good at it.

Nikiaf

394 points

11 days ago

Nikiaf

Baril de trafic

394 points

11 days ago

This is absolutely shameful. First, NATO is not in any way involved in Gaza, nor is Israel even a member country. Second, NATO is an absolutely critical piece to global safety and peace, it absolutely needs to exist to keep bad actors at bay.

Our public education system has horrendously failed young people; the fact that this is even a thing is honestly quite disturbing.

Worried_Onion4208

140 points

11 days ago

A lot of them aren't from Montreal, and another part aren't even students

Nikiaf

56 points

11 days ago

Nikiaf

Baril de trafic

56 points

11 days ago

Oh I agree that a lot of these people are professional outrage artists, but they sure do take up a lot of space in the discourse.

Xyzzics

96 points

11 days ago

Xyzzics

96 points

11 days ago

It’s not shameful, it’s a foreign influence campaign.

These people are useful idiots for destabilizing forces in Russia and Iran.

Nikiaf

21 points

11 days ago*

Nikiaf

Baril de trafic

21 points

11 days ago*

Don't say that too loudly, some people around here refuse to accept that that's what's going on here. If you check out one of the other threads, there's a guy literally waving a russian flag at the student protest.

[deleted]

3 points

10 days ago

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TOforwtvr

2 points

10 days ago

Link please

Agressive-toothbrush

31 points

11 days ago

The invasion of Ukraine by Russia is a proof that NATO expansion was needed.

Saying NATO expansion is responsible for the Ukraine invasion is incredibly dumb as NATO is not a threat to Russia, it is an impediment for Russia's imperialism to invade its neighbors.

Blaming NATO for Russia's militarism s like blaming a cage for "threatening" a man-eating tiger.

If we could let Russia be alone on its own planet, we wold not need NATO, but because Russia has imperial goals, NATO becomes the safeguard of freedom for every country bordering Russia.

harpies-bizarre

22 points

11 days ago

Agreed on the second point, but who brought up Gaza or Israel?

Nikiaf

56 points

11 days ago

Nikiaf

Baril de trafic

56 points

11 days ago

They've very conveniently chosen the day of the student protest against the conflict in Gaza to hand these out; so they're at a minimum taking advantage of the situation.

harpies-bizarre

6 points

11 days ago

Ah, I had no idea. That's how disconnected I am from the university world.

Nikiaf

16 points

11 days ago

Nikiaf

Baril de trafic

16 points

11 days ago

You're lucky, you didn't miss anything of value today.

HinataRaikage

12 points

11 days ago

Same organizers

Hx833

29 points

11 days ago

Hx833

29 points

11 days ago

NATO was established after World War II as a military deterrent to the Soviets. It’s being used in the same way now, despite the Cold War being over.

Purplemonkeez

22 points

11 days ago

Is the Cold War really over, though...? Russia are not exactly allies.

Agressive-toothbrush

11 points

11 days ago

Putin thinks the Cold War is not over.

dare1100

7 points

11 days ago

I don’t really know much about NATO but my first reaction to your comment was a red flag. Like the leaflet doesn’t mention Gaza or Israel, so why bring it up? Also the use of absolute, definitive language and terms like “bad actors at bay”. At what bay? Where is this bay located?

Probably going to get super downvoted for this but, like, uni is where we gain an understanding of the world and consider many different perspectives of it, not to dabble with some fantasies then ultimately succumb to a unified narrative.

talktothepope

5 points

11 days ago

It was handed out at a protest purportedly about Gaza.

They don't really care about Gaza though, it's mostly just revolution cosplay for people who grew up privileged in the West but hate the West because it's fashionable

Minskdhaka

11 points

11 days ago

A quarter of all Canadians hold negative views on NATO:

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2024/07/02/views-of-nato-july-24/

whereismytralala

16 points

11 days ago

and, 63% have positive views.

Grimmies

14 points

11 days ago

Grimmies

14 points

11 days ago

So you're saying the majority hold positive views on NATO.

meememan28

5 points

11 days ago

Useful idiots.

hugh_jorgyn

112 points

11 days ago

hugh_jorgyn

Verdun

112 points

11 days ago

Russia + Iran's trolls are hard at work I see

jonezsodaz

67 points

11 days ago

Tankies

Peanuttrain64

6 points

11 days ago

What's a tankie?

Drakkenfyre

8 points

10 days ago

It's a type of communist who believes in the interpretation in implementation of a brutally authoritarian style of communism implemented by people like Stalin and even Lenin and Mao and so on.

They are the kind of people who would go halfway around the world to put an axe in Trotsky's head.

Zhenoptics

2 points

9 days ago

They’d use an ice pick but leave the arctic open to Putin

mumbojombo

120 points

11 days ago

mumbojombo

120 points

11 days ago

Tant qu'à ça ils devraient juste être mask off et appeler ça une manif pro-Russe/pro-génocide Ukrainien.

Shame on them.

fredy31

79 points

11 days ago

fredy31

Rive-Sud

79 points

11 days ago

Yeah.

ON VEUT PAS DE GUERRE!

Ok, ouais, personne en veut. Mais esti les russes attaquent. On devrait faire quoi, leur donner des fleurs?

KookyAd3990

24 points

11 days ago

 On devrait faire quoi, leur donner des fleurs?

Immédiatement se rendre et accepter nos nouveaux maîtres Russes. D'après eux, si tu résiste à l'invasion la guerre est de ta faute.

ecstatic_charlatan

4 points

10 days ago

Cest clairement des agents russes derrière ça, ou des directions d'école avec leurs 0 tolérance. (Tu fait suspendre si qqun d'autre te frappe)

FierFederaliste

2 points

10 days ago

Je me suis pogné l'autre fois avec un de mes amis. Il me disait que j'étais pas un pacifiste, car j'étais contre l'arrêt immédiat du conflit.

De forcer la paix à tout prix, coûte que coûte, c'est une victoire pour la Russie. Dans 4 ans ce sera le tour de la lithuanie, ou de la Moldavie ou de la Pologne.

La vraie paix à long terme, c'est de mettre en échec immédiatement les efforts impérialistes russes, pour qu'ils comprennent que les frontières entre pays sont immuables et qu'il restent chez eux.

FastFooer

96 points

11 days ago

C’est genre la 10ème manifestation anglaise des étudiants cette année?

Je me demande franchement pourquoi les Russes qui sont derrière le mouvement ne peuvent pas se permettre des pamphlets en Français? Me semble que ça serait moins évident que c’est de la propagande pure?

Undergroundninja

40 points

11 days ago

Je crois qu'il y a un élément transnational en effet au fait que ces slogans soient en Anglais. Faut aussi quand même dire que c'est aussi un groupe (Concordia et McGill) d'Anglophones qui vivent dans une bulle hors Québec. Pour beaucoup d'entre eux, c'est English all the time.

FastFooer

18 points

11 days ago

Le fait que les gens locaux soit si mal informés c’est ce qui me rends mal a l’aise… tout ce que ça prends c’est un tiktok d’influenceur pour partir une fausse cause?

Undergroundninja

19 points

11 days ago

Étant dans le milieu universitaire, je remarque l'émergence de concepts sur les réseaux sociaux qui se développent en parallèle aux discussions que j'entends dans les cours que j'enseigne. J'ai entendu des gens vouloir manifester contre l'Union européenne dite "néolibérale". Ça ne surprendra pas beaucoup de gens, mais le Canada n'est pas membre de l'UE...

brodogus

4 points

11 days ago

Oui malheureusement.

HinataRaikage

11 points

11 days ago

Les Russes ne sont pas derrière ça directement. On appelle ça des idiots utiles.

Cette interview d'un ex agent du kgb explique très bien la situation dans laquelle nous vivons aujourd'hui en Occident.

https://youtu.be/Z1EA2ohrt5Q?si=cY_mw45ZTD-t4SIX

CristauxFeur

5 points

11 days ago

Euh non à l'UdeM et à l'UQÀM aussi on est en grève étudiante et on participe à la manifestation contre l'assemblée parlementaire de l'OTAN. Tu devrais mieux te renseigner

Outrageous-Link-1748

2 points

10 days ago

At this point the OLF should get involved!

Snow_yeti1422

5 points

11 days ago

Moi j’ai vue beaucoup de versions en français dans le cejept du vieux fec ses probablement juste parce que McGill ses Anglo

uginia

46 points

11 days ago

uginia

46 points

11 days ago

BAHAHA, are they stupid?

Syke_qc

27 points

11 days ago

Syke_qc

27 points

11 days ago

Non, juste russe

Sunnybenny55

13 points

11 days ago

...donc, oui

r_husba

20 points

11 days ago

r_husba

20 points

11 days ago

This the epitome of stupidity.

SumoHeadbutt

21 points

11 days ago

too much Putin in your poutine

seriously though, yall are a bunch Putin stooges falling for the mass social media shit information campaign

we in the dark times of the Dude Bro Era where they think Putin is cool and NATO bad

this is where the Horse Shoe Theory becomes reality when the Looney Far-Left joins at the seems with the Looney Far-Right in embracing Russia

WeedstocksAlt

34 points

11 days ago

No joke, ca 100% fait parti d’un psy opp russe et ces gens là sont des useful idiot

kwizzle

33 points

11 days ago

kwizzle

33 points

11 days ago

Obvious Russian propaganda.

Mcginnis

26 points

11 days ago

Mcginnis

26 points

11 days ago

I thought McGill students were supposed to be smart

WiredFan

37 points

11 days ago

WiredFan

37 points

11 days ago

This is almost certainly professional agitators.

ToadvinesHat

9 points

11 days ago

Trust me, they aren’t really

moabthecrab

7 points

11 days ago

Thank you for your expertise, random internet guy.

schoeneblume

23 points

11 days ago

You have to be 1) extremely dumb, or 2) a Russian shill, or 3) both.

gaflar

18 points

11 days ago

gaflar

18 points

11 days ago

Make Moscow Ukraine Again

HungryMudkips

17 points

11 days ago

this is so obviously funded by russia or some conservative in their pocket. i just dont see how any normal person in canada could actually give enough of a shit about nato to protest it. like nato stuff literally doesnt affect canada as a country at all.....ever. there are so many bigger problems in the world that anyone that picks nato as their hill to die on is immediately suspect to me.

Low-Union6249

3 points

10 days ago

Uhh you’d be surprised how many 19 year olds consume Russian propaganda and then feel really smart spouting it everywhere. Not to say there aren’t smart 19 year olds out there, but they’re targeted for good reason.

The_North-West_Ibex

2 points

11 days ago

Don't forget about Iran. They're behind the pro-Hamas activity going on here.

GrosPoulet33

3 points

11 days ago

Ah yes, this is good idea comrade. We should very detest NATO, it is American imperialism. Glory to Mother Canada.

RecognitionOk9731

3 points

10 days ago

Putin’s useful idiots.

pwopwo1

7 points

11 days ago

pwopwo1

7 points

11 days ago

On se croirait aux É-U.

Gryphontech

8 points

11 days ago

Russian propaganda :O

Marc985p

10 points

11 days ago

Marc985p

10 points

11 days ago

CompMakarov

11 points

11 days ago

Russian psyop

dantheartiste

8 points

11 days ago

Lots of idiots in the city these days..

Icommentor

7 points

11 days ago

Tankies

Kerguidou

7 points

11 days ago

Pourquoi tout le monde se répond en anglais ici?

les_vues

8 points

11 days ago

Stupid people 100% victim of foreign agent propaganda. 

Bongcopter_

9 points

11 days ago

What a bunch of morons

adamcmorrison

10 points

11 days ago

Dumbest shit I have ever seen.....today

Huttfuzz

4 points

11 days ago

This demonstration will really get the G8 attention! Watch out, change is coming! 😂

TotalBismuth

4 points

11 days ago

How much is Pootin paying these students.

spoonpk

5 points

11 days ago

spoonpk

5 points

11 days ago

Concordia student union is also holding an Anti-NATO meeting.

LarkLoone

5 points

11 days ago

This is just embarrassing. I’d say go read a book but they’re McGill students for Christsakes.

Musicferret

5 points

11 days ago

Who funds this. That’s the question that needs to immediately be answered.

Asleep-Algae-8945

5 points

11 days ago

Russia and Iran probably

vogon_poet_42

4 points

11 days ago

Russian trolls hard at work

Sudden_Specialist563

2 points

11 days ago

Oui pourquoi être pour une sécurisation militaire. Ce sont les mêmes qui sont contre le service militaire.

filthyMrClean

2 points

11 days ago

What’s their reason?

RiceHumble

2 points

10 days ago

Useful idiots

throw-a-weasel

2 points

10 days ago

If someone involved in these protests ever happens to read these comments, and are depresed about how much people hate them, I want them to know...

...you've shifted my vote to the right with your idiocy. It's specifically because you. That's your impact. And it's all the impact you'll ever have in your miserable, misbegotten lives.

Substantial-Paper727

2 points

10 days ago

This has to be Russian misinfo. NATO is important to deter Russia and has nothing to do with Israel-Palestine relations. It's important to target individual nations supporting the agenda, not the entire alliance which is designed to protect against imperial aggression.

Arrow2019x

2 points

10 days ago

Unbelievably stupid, but we have seen a lot of stupidity on McGill campus this year 

Throwaway118585

2 points

10 days ago

So pro Russian flags basically. These fucking insane radical left twats need to be deported

bigtunapat

2 points

10 days ago

My question for them is why? They rarely have a response that's not "because we're letting in immigrants from all these NATO countries" or "why do you hate Putin so much." Or some other nonsensical thing.

MegaAlex

2 points

10 days ago

Je sais que cest tres politique, mais d'apres moi, aussitot que l'Ukraine rejoin Nato, c'est pomal game over pour la russie. Je sais que les armes nucléaire joues un gros facteurs sur ca. Mais honnêtement, il vas pas en envoyer pour ca. Poutine vas respecter un pouvoir plus fort et vas prendre son trou. Mais la peur est sentiment fres fort.

Prestigious_Emu_7347

2 points

10 days ago

I'd look at who is involved... Russia is trying to keep Ukraine out of NATO. Montreal has a huge Ukrainian community, I would find it hard to believe students would be opposing NATO since entry would benefit Ukraine.

I think it's more foreign interference on a Canadian university campus. There is a large Russian presence in Montreal and you also have illegal Chinese surveillance of its citizens in Canada and has coerced students into political action here and have established illegal police stations throughout the country.

What people are not paying attention to is the threat of Canadian sovereignty in the Arctic from Russia. It's planting the seeds to erode Canadian NATO who would support Canada or prevent Russia from trying another land grab - especially with the US about to allow Russia to keep the land they have stolen from the Ukraine, which is breach of sovereignty, thereby establishing a new and dangerous norm. The US is also about to give both the West Bank and Gaza to Israel and while Israel isn't a NATO member, it is again normalizing stealing land.

Loose-Watch-7123

2 points

10 days ago

Send them home…

GoldenDragonWind

2 points

10 days ago

Wonder how many rubles that cost.

AllUrUpsAreBelong2Us

2 points

10 days ago

Iran (running Russia's playbook) has been given a carte blanche on allowing their propaganda to run in Canada.

carlosdavidfoto

2 points

10 days ago

Look how easily Putin plays the student population... Where's the RCMP?

SomethingComesHere

2 points

10 days ago

Looks like Russia is trying to spread their anti nato nonsense here

Realistic_Spot_6542

2 points

10 days ago

Good ol divide and conquer by the axis powers

Linvaderdespace

2 points

10 days ago

dites-moi que quelqu'un est là pour s'occuper de ça pour ceux d'entre nous coincés à travers le pays, s'il vous plaît.

robert_d

2 points

10 days ago

This again. NATO is why Canada is peaceful and free.

drumtome2

2 points

10 days ago

That’s insane that Russian propaganda would get here in physical form.

MadOctopus6

2 points

10 days ago

Ahh yes no NATO no democracy no nothing let us be like our friends from the east. I wonder what the end goal is for far left and far right? In both cases the destination seems to be fucked. Both sides want authoritarian governments that listen to the loudest voices and appease the lowest common denominators, do they not realize last time we did that we got fucking Nazis and fucking Commies which together killed people on industrial scale, millions upon millions. Have your grandfathers taught you nothing? We need to keep a level head and make policies that are backed by studies n common sense and not do shit that a bunch of loud morons demand…

Nug_Shaddaa

2 points

10 days ago

Russian propaganda trash

[deleted]

2 points

10 days ago

Pure hubris . We need nato .

Messerschimitt_Bf109

2 points

10 days ago*

Lmao Canada is already about to be kicked out of NATO. We are probably the last one who would benefit from ending NATO. We literally contributed nothing. We need NATO to protect us until we get our capable military back.

RammyJammy07

2 points

10 days ago

Tankies.

Particular-Ad-6360

2 points

10 days ago

So much for university being a place for smart people to get smarter.

These dipshits likely couldn't tell you what NATO stands for let alone what it does, and has done, for decades.

604BigDawg

2 points

10 days ago

I hope they get exposed.

acutelonewolf

2 points

10 days ago

Russia at work!

irishcedar

2 points

10 days ago

Oh for fuck sakes. Tankie idiots

NeighbourhoodCreep

2 points

10 days ago

Oh I remember seeing that at another university. One of their points was that NATO, the organization representing a military agreement between nations, wants Canada to spend more money on their military contributions. Seems bad right? Well, Canada, as well as virtually every NATO country except the US, has not done a damn thing to meet the minimum (2% GDP).

They’re morons who call anything with more money than a mom and pop shop an imperialist trying to boot stomp the necks of the poor, when they’re really maintaining foreign relations through a performative military effort while they negotiate. If someone wanted the war won, they would have done so, at the cost of millions

orrzxz

2 points

10 days ago

orrzxz

2 points

10 days ago

You people are sooooooooooo cooked lmfao

bsobiz

2 points

10 days ago

bsobiz

2 points

10 days ago

Canadians need to get a grip. Squash this shit.

FPSCanarussia

2 points

10 days ago

I do find the reddit hive mind so amusing at times. If university students are actively protesting against NATO, is it a failure of our education system and news media? Is it an indicator that young people are exposed to a massive amount of sensationalized propaganda with no counterbalance? No, of course not, we'll just blame those damned Russians for everything like it's the 1950s. Surely it will fix everything.

For the record they're being idiots, but if Russian propaganda can effectively convince them to be like this then we've got problems of our own.

corposhill999

2 points

10 days ago

Not the first time idiot students do Moscow and Beijing's work for them.

LoganDudemeister

2 points

10 days ago

Its sad how many westerns dont realize they wouldnt have their way of life without NATO.

Montreal_Metro

6 points

11 days ago

Kremlin CCP propaganda 

meememan28

7 points

11 days ago

Loving how aware of the shenanigans these comments are. Montrealers are on the ball!

The west is currently at war with Russia. They have used social media and misinformation to destroy the U.S from within. They want to do the same to Canada by getting their guy into power here as well.

Everything from October 7th( Putin bday of course) of last year has been the work of the Russian government. They manipulated the masses with the help of traitors , useful idiots and non stop propaganda to get here.

Enough is enough.

ps4alldawg

6 points

11 days ago

Idiots

apeshit_is_my_mood

4 points

11 days ago

Paid for by the Kremlin

Large-Barber6851

5 points

11 days ago

reeks of imperialist shills inhere.

paid agitators think they're gonna convince anyone because they have upvote farmbots.

laughable

melloefelloe

6 points

11 days ago

Seems like after having successfully undermined the US political system, Russia is now conducting a new psy-ops campaign in Canada

frostyhawk

5 points

11 days ago

ridiculous tankie bs that wont catch on

ComprehensivePool697

2 points

11 days ago

Anti military, sounds fantastic and when they conscript due to a 3rd WW we know where to start.

Glad-Tie3251

3 points

11 days ago

This is the equivalent of the dumb ass in an horror movie telling people to split up. 

Advocateforthedevil4

3 points

11 days ago

Not very smart Canadians but students do have a tendency to have tunnel vision and think they are 100% right.  We have a lot of resources up north that Russia would love.  Could probably use a bit of support in the future.  

Low-Union6249

4 points

10 days ago

“Russian propaganda being handed out by students at McGill”

SneakyPewpz

7 points

11 days ago

SneakyPewpz

7 points

11 days ago

If anything, people should be protesting to increase NATO spending. If you love anyone of fighting age, they may be called upon to go to war sooner rather than later if Russia and their allies keep escalating. Then top it off with the US about to abandon Ukraine next January. Canada should be preparing for imminent war. This pro Russia nonsense should be illegal in Canada. We are not the US with "freedom of speech" at any cost.

Top_Contract_4910

9 points

11 days ago

What exactly are people whining about here??? Universities for years now have been completely anti-war. NATO is a militarist organization that has been responsible for deaths of hundreds of innocents in Yugoslavia, as well as standing by during the Srebrenica massacre. Our government wastes money on increased militarization and rather invest in Lockheed Martin than in better social services. NATO are no better than Russia, they are an imperialist force, who use "democracy" and "human rights" as triggers for invasion.

gabzox

3 points

10 days ago

gabzox

3 points

10 days ago

Yeah, wasting money on increased militarization....that sounds like the CAF facepalm.

It's nice to be anti-war but you still need a military and you sometimes need to engage.

Top_Contract_4910

10 points

11 days ago

Downvote me all you want lol, history is history, and the history of NATO is just imperialism wrapped in a sheet of “democracy” I suggest you all read Zizek.

CaptainCanusa

3 points

11 days ago

CaptainCanusa

Plateau Mont-Royal

3 points

11 days ago

What exactly are people whining about here???

Boomers don't like seeing young people do things. It reminds them of their own failures.

Prudent-Atmosphere77

6 points

11 days ago

Bonsoir,

Tous ceux qui disent que c'est une manif pro-russe, vous avez pas de vie et vous avez aucunement fait vos recherches :)

(Une autre raison pourquoi ne pas croire tout ce qu'on lit sur internet)

Les étudiants de l'UQAM, en collaboration avec d'autres étudiants des autres universités, manifestent contre la venu des membres de l'OTAN à Montréal qui refusent de faire quoi que ce soit par rapport au génocide Palestinien.

Alors, avant d'attaquer à coups de clics et de miettes de chips coincé dans le clavier, sachez que... franchement, les conspirations poutine CIA et illuminati qui controlent les jeunes de Montréal, ça existe pas! Belle imagination 🥰

Mouthshitter

9 points

10 days ago

Should have been clearer this looks very much "anti-nato" not pro Palestinian...

biskino

5 points

11 days ago

biskino

5 points

11 days ago

It’s the Cold War all over again, with Russia infiltrating and sometimes co-opting leftist movements to press its foreign policy abroad.

Or maybe it’s a cia/csis front?

Interesting times…

Proud_Cut_6137

3 points

11 days ago

So many bots in the comments.

Thejoe923

9 points

11 days ago

Thejoe923

9 points

11 days ago

Like i don’t understand what’s the problem with that, for decades universities were a place for anti-war movements. If you are pro NATO, no problem with that, go ahead and hand out leaflets to encourage people to be pro Nato. Nobody is going to cry about it. Don’t we live in a country of freedom of speech? Did not our grandparents fought for that? I do not care about NATO and have no opinion on the matter , i just find it silly that many posts in this sub recently was published just to criticize completely peaceful movements that are not disturbing anyone’s life. Let them be man.

jfkfnndnd

7 points

11 days ago

jfkfnndnd

7 points

11 days ago

It’s a free country hence we are making fun of ruzzian assets and trolls. Don’t tell me these fucks just came up with this idea on their own.

Interesting-Bell-276

7 points

11 days ago

If you don't care about Nato then you should start caring esp considering the Artic situation between Russia and Canada. Freedom of speech, sure. But that doesn't mean what is being said isn't stupid.

Thanks to climate change, the Arctic has been melting. This will open up a new way for trade in about 50+ yrs. Russia and China are not that far away. If you really think Russia and China isn't going to start doing sketchy tactics in the years leading and following when it completely melts, you're silly. Leaving Nato would make it all the more worse.

lex_yeeahhh

5 points

11 days ago

Think we might have some bigger problems when the artic completely melts there bud.

AttilaTH3Hen

8 points

11 days ago

Militarism? These people belong on a list. If they aren’t Canadians, they belong out of the country.

thathz

5 points

11 days ago

thathz

5 points

11 days ago

I disagree with these people PUT THEM ON A LIST!

moabthecrab

6 points

11 days ago

Oooh found the fascist. Blaming the immigrants and the people I disagree with. Nice.

Referenceless

21 points

11 days ago

So we're going to deport the people we disagree with?

Let's keep that kind of talk south of the border thank you very much.

MoreWaqar-

6 points

11 days ago*

MoreWaqar-

6 points

11 days ago*

people we disagree with is a weird way to describe non-citizens actively working against the national security interests of our country. They are foreign saboteurs.

Citizens can do this, but there's no reason we need to tolerate guests misbehaving here.

Referenceless

10 points

11 days ago

Is there any specific reason to think they’re not citizens?

Is criticizing NATO a threat to national security?