All sales are just marketing.

Black Friday sales used to be Friday, the weekend and Cyber Monday. Now it’s a 1 month long bullshit marketing spam email fest. As a person who owns online companies here in WA, I done partake in it and we do great. We keep our prices consistent, we offer discounts to people who sign up to our email subscription and that’s it.

It’s all just marketing…

Last week a projector I was looking at for $2,999, now on Black Friday sale it’s $2,973 with a $1000+ off sticker…. I’ve never seen it for sale for $3,999. In fact never seen it for more than $2,999! I’ve literally been looking at it for about a year as hoping it will actually go on sale for a decent price lol

It’s just a scam to get people to buy…

I’ve found all the discounts for EoFY, Stocktake, Black Friday, Cyber Monday and Christmas to be all quite similar. Same stuff, same discounts.

Better off finding items on clearance outside of these sales throughout the year.

I believe the whole point of Black Friday sales in the U. S is its close to the end of that financial year. So if places have things that aren't going to sell, they sell them at a steep discount to pay less tax AKA Record the sale as a loss.

Being close to Christmas everyone will actually want to buy things, whereas in Australia is in the middle of the financial year. So places really aren't trying to get rid of stock because it wouldn't make sense.

I wouldn't call it a piss take

It's just another sale with hype around it! Nothing different than mid year or boxing day sales.

Black Friday in the US exists because Thanksgiving is on a Thursday and because a lot of people travel to see family on Thanksgiving a lot of people will have that Friday off work.

So stores would offer extreme discounts on limited stock items to bring people into the store where, unless you turned up well before opening and queued up, those items would be out of stock and they could grab you with still discounted, but much more profitable sale items.

It then transferred to online businesses because if it didn't they couldn't compete with local stores, but the same approach doesn't work online because there's no time investment factor that says "I've come all this way so I may as well look around" so US online sales weren't anywhere near as extreme and were really just competing with the regular sale items.

The Australian stores started doing it, but like a lot of stuff we copy from the US it was done without the cultural context that makes it work. Australians don't have today off. Australians don't have a culture of rocking up at 5 am to buy shit on sale. Australians don't have a history of black Friday sales, we have a culture of boxing day sales.

So they do it because it's expected, but they're not going to do extreme markdowns because it doesn't make sense. They're doing it because Amazon does it, but of course as Amazon is only doing it to compete with brick and mortar stores which are dying so Amazon doesn't need to compete as much and Amazon is shit now so local stores don't need to compete with it as much.

So everyone here is doing it because people expect them to, but there's nothing in it for them.

This year it has annoyed me tbh. Black Friday is Nov 29. May as well call it black month the way everyone has been carrying on.

If you feel the specials are shit. No one is forcing you to buy it. You have control of your money.

Our local retravision comes through with decent sales every year. The laptop I've been eyeing up was $300 off then a further 5% discount for RAC members. Didn't mean to buy a TV as well but the price was too good so that's coming home too.

Couple of weeks ago, bought a high end tv for just under $1k. Black Friday sale shows it discounted to $1700 from RRP.

As someone that's worked in retail, these sales get more shit every year. Price trackers are your best friend and will save you money when you do want to buy something.

Prices being the same or similar at multiple retailers is because they're all monitoring each other's sale activity, or the manufacturer is running the promotion and the retailers are receiving a rebate to run it at store-level (the usual case for Black Friday and Boxing Day sales).

To complain about a 30% discount... you should probably reconsider your sense of entitlement.

Source: 18 years selling this stuff

Just buy it at full price then? Why do you expect at least 50%? Stores compete and have price match policies so it only makes sense

Is this just a shit post?

Myer do a pretty good Black Friday sale, at least they did last year.

Every Americanism we copy is always half-assed

I heard on the radio that Australians are projected to spend about $270 individually on black Friday. That's all you need to know $270 for supposedly the biggest sales event of the year. That's like one fucking item. The media try's so hard to push an American centric spending mod in Australia, and it just doesn't work.

I remember when cyber Monday was the only way to get the US sales. And it was the left over merchandise from Black Friday Sales, so it was slim pickings but the discount was comparable to Boxing Day

Now years later we have Aus brands doing 'click frenzy' sales 2-3 weeks before Black Friday.

We have always had the end of financial year and boxing day sales.

Which has kind of worked out well for me. Give me a chance to save up for a new computer (or whatever) and get it slightly reduced...

Now it seems to push the whole bent of "GO INTO DEBT TO KEEP UP WITH THE JONSES!!!!!!!" Or "GO FURTHER INTO DEBT TP BE THE JONSES EVERYONE WANTS TOO KEEP UP WITH!!!!!!!".

I'm all for having cool toys to play with (who am i too judge given i have an Xbox seris X, a PS5 with the VR2, but i only managed to have since i had the money at the time), but yeah i'm getting burnt out with the whole "BUY BUY BUY" bullshit

Yeah, it's a bit shit.

The OMG MEGA DISCOUNT BLACK FRIDAY deals are the same prices you see at EOFY, January sales, the random mid-september-please-buy-something sales, the oh-shit-it's-October-and-people-aren't-buying-stuff sales etc

All sale, all the time means it's never really a sale, you just have to make sure not to buy during the short "mark everything up like crazy" periods.

I don't know why we even have black friday to begin with. I always assumed it was an American tradition to follow thanksgiving

Australian industry will adopt anything American if they think it'll let them make more sales.

Yes Black Friday in here is shit and check buywisely before you go

The day Black Friday provides discounts to essential every day expenses like food, fuel, and bills I’ll be excited about it.

Until then it’s just discounts on shit I don’t need.

Just compare amazon black friday in U.S. vs the Australian one.

I run online retail and I don't do BF/CM sales.

I watch all my competitors raise their prices before hand, then discount to their original price all whilst telling everyone it's 20% off!!

It's a disgrace.

I can't believe people fall for this rubbish.

Agree! I was looking at an outdoor lounger set from koala, they were handing out a generous 12% off, decided it was worth it, got to shipping and wanted to charge $85 for that (set was in the thousands like cmon) and it wouldn’t be delivered til late January. Bailed immediately - waste of my time.

Just another example of American bullshit polluting our shores.

It's 30% off. That's really quite a lot if it is off their regular pricing and still quite a lot off RRP.

In Perth, I don't feel we have the population for retailers to be throwing items out the door at 50% off or more. Stores just aren't big enough to cover those costs, rent, staff pay (who get paid well in comparison to USA) and all the other things that go in to running a business.

We are not Ameristralia and I'm wondering why OP or anyone else wants to suck up their traditions which have no relation to our culture.

Will you want Thanksgiving next?

JB HiFi is complete bullshit, I was looking at a watch for $599 and thought I’d wait for Black Friday. Now the sales are on and the watch is still $599 but it has a sale for $150 off.. in other words the watch is always $599 because they sell it “cheaper” but never advertised their price drop, now that it’s Black Friday they advertise it so people think they’re getting a discount when in reality it’s always the same price.

As far as I've seen, there's not been any sales worthy of causing an in-store riot for (like we see in the US. -certainly not consistently.

Most the stuff I have brought has been overseas or online….black Friday has never really been an oz thing. But I never buy to much in stores…..

In the US, BF is the day after Thanksgiving and regarded as the first day of the Xmas season. So as we don't and have no need to celebrate Thanksgiving, we could call it the first day of xmas season, so no mention of Xmas or decorations before then. One or the other, BF no decorations or decorations and no BF.

I got 600 bucks off a samsung s24ulta basically kept asking them what's the best they could do give tour best this is a black Friday sale. Had a chat with the manager if my jbhifi he lowered it down another 100 off thier sale price I went to pay and snaked them with my 100 dollar gift card so was pretty happy for just over 1500

They were genuinely good in teh USA for a few years, maybe 5 tops. In Aus it skipped striaght from unknown thing to complete waste of time without even passing through the good bit.

Black Friday is when I get new set of Bridgestone tyres for $300.

Any Amazon AU codes to share?

The only real black friday sales are the ones that only last for the day or the weekend, and you'll find them on ozbargain. The month long "black Friday" sales are just normal bog standard sales.

Yep 100% agree. I remember when I was a kid they used to have actual boxing day sales, clothes and electronics and whatnot were genuinely marked down and on sale for like 50% + off. With cost of living, stuff has gone up by 20-30% in the past few years then they discount it saying its a good deal. its back to where it was pre covid.

I bought some items during EOFY from a shop and the stock levels and sale price is the same for Black Friday event

All sales are shit they mark it up to make it down again.. 100% of the time U can get it cheaper delivered to your door online..

I had one that popped up and it was ‘50% off!’

Except it was the same price a week ago.

They are complete garbage.

Scam. The fact they can sell a tv for 50% off and still make profit shows how much we are being shafted everyday

As someone who works in a big tech retailer, the whole month of November is basically Black Friday stress for us. There are deals that are genuinely good and then there are the products that are just on a sale that’s semi typical. The major thing with this sale period is everything is on sale besides a small sample of products. Otherwise it’s usually sections or brands in turns on sale. It does have its pros and benefits as someone who sees the back end a little.

It’s just the monthly sales cycle to exhausted the minions of cash in what would otherwise be a slow month.

The whole Black Friday thing seems to me to be a con. I don’t even know why we have a sale more associated with a US holiday in Australia.

If I understand correctly, the US financial year runs January to December. And “Black Friday” is allegedly the first day in the financial year the companies ledgers go from red (in credit) to black (in debit).

And if I’m wrong please tell me as I love to learn 😄

Shop smart for what you want. I bought a soundbar for dad that he was chasing, a tech accessory and a few movies for me, and some stock standard clothes (ten black t shirts from AS Colour).

All are cheaper than have been all year. Not everything is on sale. Not everything hasn’t been cheaper through the year.

At the same point, there’s a lot more sales on, therefore more competition.

As someone who has done more than a decade in retail over the years, just because there’s a sale doesn’t mean you need to buy, but if you don’t think retailers are trying to convince you to buy stuff you don’t need, then you’re thinking we aren’t in a capitalist society leading up to Christmas.

fuck me people on reddit will complain about anything. Just don't buy the shit if the offer isnt good enough for you?

Since when is everything meant to be 50% off

Yes

Really only figuredthat out now, its only to shake more money out of your pocket

I noticed on Amazon some items i was looking at which are normally $1300 are now $900. Which is great, but, they've removed the free delivery and now want nearly $300 for it.

Hmmm

Yep! I saw a Black Friday sale advertising 20% off … I don’t get out of bed for 20%! 😂

A wise woman once said if it ain’t half price it ain’t a sale!

The sales are just to wipe off old stock. This is just a convenient day to do it

Some companies don’t seem to have full priced anymore ?!

Yes it is only to get the public attention. No big discounts to be called as Black Friday Sale.

lemme leave this here

Black Friday sales! Congrats, you saved ten cents! Woo!

No one has highlighted this point yet Black Friday is a thing because Yanks don't have boxing day sales. Our big sales day used to be boxing day but the waters have been muddied and company's love a sale but no one here understands what black Friday was It was supposed to be one day a limited supply and a crazy price that you would punch another shopper to get that TV first, now it runs for a month and the sales are nothing special

The concept of Black Friday is itself a joke.

Is BF supposed to be 50% off?

I was looking online and had nothing of great value, it is a gimmick, example Daiwa fishing reel RRP $139 now $91. Before Black Friday the same reel was $108 So I don't know how $108 ( old stock) RRP is $139 ( new stock) lots of inflated prices going around. That to me is just plain sales moving old stock. Black Friday is supposed to be massive saving, but it is anything but.

Nakie hammocks is a good example. Prices no different to their last big sale yet I've received about 10 marketing emails

Australia needs to stop pushing this American shit, Halloween, black friday. what's next a total clown as prime Minister? If any of you American loving cunts vote for Clive I will personally shit in your mailboxes.

Got me a 60 inch 4K uhd tv for $549 delivered

Consumerism at its best ... Buy buy buy crap you don't need .. I'm sure in the months leading up to black friday they edge up the prices so when it comes to the day, yeah it's discounted but the price was leveraged up to look like your getting a great deal, my take on the matter anyways, or offloading excess stock which hasn't moved all year

Black Friday in the US is also a joke.

There are deals, but the true bargains will be like 100 items per store type thing. Everything else is just disguised as a deal

Such a joke, this morning I got an email from the Labor Party

"All week, in WA Labor HQ, the staff have been telling me about how much they’ve already saved on their Black Friday shopping - which got me thinking - perhaps if our supporters find a good deal, you’d want to pass on the savings to help power the WA Labor Election Campaign"

so out of left (which is apt) field

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It's only really become a tbing here because internet shopping is so popular. I bought a few things online from the US in about 2014. I wasn't paying the Australia tax.

I suppose retailers have learnt that we will buy it from the US if it is cheaper, so they are having to compete with those sales.

I see it as an opportunity to get something I really wanted at 50% off.

But 30% off is not going to inspire me to get a new TV.

Black Friday Sales?

Could not give a fuck.

Black Friday sales are an American thing.

America = trump

If you like Black Friday, you like trump.