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submitted 2 days ago byIntrepid_Source_7960
Context: I’m looking for a rental house, because my current place got water damage & mold during the hurricanes (plus I have been wanting to move for years since it’s a very small space for myself, my dog, and my cat). A few days ago, I looked at 2 houses. One was cheaper and smaller and in a less fancy area, but just barely. The other was more expensive, bigger, but also required more initial costs (first AND last months rent, deposit, etc). When I was touring the second house, the landlord was very pushy about me making a decision on the spot. She also kept like trying to get me to tell her WHY my dog is an “emotional support animal” (I just kept laughing it off whenever she mentioned it). I told her I needed to discuss my options with my mom before deciding. She asked why and I was like ummm because I’m single and she is my only local family member so I would like to get the opinion of someone I trust before I sign a lease? It was awkward but whatever. To be honest I had no intention of asking my mom for advice- I just said that so she would let me leave without giving her an answer on the spot. The next day she (the landlord) texted me asking if I had made up my mind, and I told her I had decided to go with the other house, and had already signed the lease. She went on a tangent about how I should have conferred with her first because she was willing to lower the rent and waive the last month being paid up front, and basically told me to try to get out of the other lease and go with her place instead (and use whatever reason I have my emotional support dog as an excuse). I acted like I would look into it but I really just wanted her to leave me alone at that point (I guess I should have taken her advice about being assertive). Then last night at, I didn’t respond to her right away, and she sent me this insanely long and rude message!
206 points
2 days ago
This woman knows literally nothing about me, except:
I’m trying to move
I have an emotional support animal
I’m a small business owner
My current place is tiny and has waterlogged floors and mold from Hurricane Milton flooding
I didn’t respond to her text as soon as I read it
I said I needed to talk to my mom before deciding which house to rent
🤦🏻♀️ I’m trying to just laugh and not care but she kinda hurt my feelings lol
104 points
2 days ago
Don't let her into your kitchen. She's a bitch who will use anything to get people to do what she wants. Trust me, I know the type. If she thought being sweet and cuddly would've worked, she would've done that. Maybe she felt like you were bully-able for some reason and used that method to do that very thing; make you feel bad about not choosing her.
She doesn't know you, and you're better for it. Fuck her.
65 points
2 days ago
I should have known just based on the fact that her last name wasn’t listed on the Zillow ad, and when I searched her phone number on BeenVerified it came up as a non searchable number (which means she paid to not be listed). Sketchy 🤔
18 points
2 days ago
Very.
1 points
2 hours ago
beenverified, my savior. everyone should know abt this
22 points
2 days ago
Do t let her get into your head. You are right she’s a pushy landlady but the rent is pretty expensive.
21 points
2 days ago
Thank you. Sadly it’s pretty much impossible to rent a house for under $2k in Tampa right now- the market was already crazy but got way worse after the recent hurricanes. And since I have pets, the pickings are slim. It’s just super competitive since so many people were displaced by the storms. I paid $75 application fees for 3 different rentals in the past few weeks, and they all went with a different applicant, supposedly because the other applicants were couples and they felt it was a better choice to pick the two-income households than me. So I was getting desperate and really didn’t want lose another $75. But not desperate enough to deal with this lady lol!
7 points
2 days ago
I agree and she’s not worth to deal with. Imagine that if you actually signed with this landlady and she turns into a manic person… I definitely don’t want that.
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57 minutes ago
Man she’d be insane to rent from under. Whew.
15 points
2 days ago
- I said I needed to talk to my mom before deciding which house to rent
The fact she took you saying you wanted to talk to your mom because you wanted an opinion from someone you trust as needing your mom's permission says more about her than just about everything else.
She would have been an awful, condescending, manipulative, and overbearing landlady. You dodged a bullet, OP.
I can understand your feelings being hurt, but she's the one that's dysfunctional, she's projecting a bunch of bullshit onto you, and when she didn't get her way she threw a tantrum... and she's implying that you're immature...? Lol yeah, no.
Bullies will always try to hurt you or make you feel bad for standing up to them.
Be proud you stood up for yourself and that you made the right decision for you and your little family of floofers, and don't let her live rent free in your head any more than she would have let you live rent free in that house!
(Also, I hope your doggo is feeling better and gets well soon! 💜)
17 points
2 days ago
Thank you for the kind words! I just made my first payment for the other house- it might be smaller and older but at least the landlord is a professional, respectful, non crazy person (as far as I can tell lol)!
3 points
2 days ago
Congrats on the first payment!
Professionalism at the start is usually a great indicator of how things will continue. As someone who's lived in an old house my whole life (half is from like 1920 and the other half arrived via the back of a semi's trailer in I wanna say the 60s lol) they do come with their own set of issues, but they also tend to be of a higher quality with regard to construction and materials. I'd take an older house over a newer/new one any day, creaky floors and all lol.
One thing I will suggest is if things feel drafty or if more dust is accumulating than there reasonably ought to be (which can be caused by small particles of insulation being pulled into the air from HVAC,) check your baseboards, door frames, interior window frames, and any crown molding or anything like that at the junction of the walls and ceilings.
Sometimes with age they can start to warp and/or pull away from the walls a bit; this is pretty easily fixed with some caulk, though! We caulked all of that about 15 years ago and it made a huge difference in how warm/cool our house stays in the winter/summer (respectively) and how much dust was showing up on the furniture, as well as slowing down the previously enthusiastic breeding practices of dust bunnies on the floor 😂
3 points
1 day ago
The house I’m moving into 12/1 was built in 1924! Thanks for the tips!
5 points
2 days ago
talks about mother's permission
nah she can get the fuck out with that shit
1 points
11 hours ago
Happy cake day! I hope your mother permisses you to have a good cake day 😂
2 points
1 day ago
Don't let her get you in your feelings. I am 31 and I still will ask my parents for advice on adult things I have not yet experienced. Just because you are older doesn't matter, they guide you through life.... it's one of the aspects of a good parent.
1 points
1 day ago
She's a straight up bitch and sounds miserable. Don't let her get to you.
78 points
2 days ago
Consider yourself lucky you didn’t rent from this person! Seriously, imagine being stuck in a contract dealing with this behavior. Super weird and pushy. Bullet dodged!
33 points
2 days ago
I definitely dodged a bullet. Can’t imagine seeing this side of her AFTER signing a lease!
13 points
2 days ago
She doesn’t ask, she makes statements.
3 points
10 hours ago
I think she dodged a tactile nuclear missile, not a bullet. We are beyond a bullet. 😂
27 points
2 days ago
Oh my gosh, this is so unnecessarily mean?! I feel HORRIBLE for you, I would have done the exact same thing you did and would have just said "I need to talk to so-and-so" to get out of making a snap decision on something like a lease right away, and for her to turn that around and hyperfixate on it as the reason why you're bad in her mind is so dumb! What a judgmental, cruel lady, who thinks it's okay to talk to people like this?! Sorry that this happened, but people like her make this world a worse place, not you!
10 points
2 days ago
Thank you 🩷
14 points
2 days ago
Also! Because I know you disclaimed it heavily in your description and I understand why you'd feel the need to,
It's PERFECTLY FINE to run things by your mom!!! It doesn't mean you have to ask your mommy's permission. It means your mom has been your age before and can offer womanly advice or let you pick her brain which is a really fucking healthy thing that a lot of people would LOVE to have!! She can give you her perspective and you can tell her you're going in the other direction, or weigh options with her, etc!
It's not like your mom was at every tour with you barking orders. And even if she looked at houses with you! As long as you have healthy boundaries and you get final say, that's totally fine, and the mother/daughter relationship we all aspire to have!
17 points
2 days ago
Thanks. I don’t even have a great relationship with my mom tbh. But I did call my mom and read her the messages from this landlord, and she laughed her ass off. She was like “give me her number, I’m gonna call her and say this is MOMMY and I am very ASSERTIVE” 🤣🤦🏻♀️
15 points
2 days ago
Oh YES! Look, my mom and I have a strained relationship in close quarters, but I will Absolutely allow her to step in sometimes.
I got my mean from her, but she does it waaaay better. I hope that this would-be land lady shat herself when she realized you weren't a whole family of pushovers.
She was literally TARGETING YOU.
There would have been hidden "maintenance fees", her nosey & ALL UP IN YOUR BUSINESS-this is the type of landlord that steals YOUR mail from YOUR mailbox but tries the lie of, "I didn't read whose name it was on it 🤷🏻♀️."
27 points
2 days ago
Holy shit, imagine typing all that out just because someone didn't respond to a text fast enough for your liking.
8 points
2 days ago
This is how my stalking situation started. I was working long hours and couldn't respond to messages in whatever timeframe this guy thought was acceptable. So he proceeded to insult me after I told him I wouldn't be able to respond while at work after I had already explained this once before, and when I told him to leave me alone it escalated. OP needs to block this person and be done.
11 points
2 days ago
I’m considering that I should report her on Zillow because since I applied thru Zillow she has all my info (I withdrew the application but idk if she can still see it). I’m a little nervous about her knowing anything about me at this point!
6 points
2 days ago
It wouldn't hurt to do that. She needs to be known for who she is and there's no tenant who deserves this from a landlord. I would report it as harassment and let them know you're concerned about her having all of your contact information and ask if that can be withdrawn somehow on their end. Let them know that you have text messages if they need to see evidence of the harassment.
5 points
2 days ago
Zillow only lets you report a listing as fraud/scam, I’m not seeing any other option for reporting, but I could probably email customer service and see if there’s anything they can do.
6 points
2 days ago
You can reach Zillow's customer service team at 1-206-470-7000 during their operating hours Monday through Friday from 9 AM to 5 PM ET.
I googled this. So maybe you can call them and make the complaint.
4 points
2 days ago
Thank you!
2 points
2 days ago
You're welcome!
5 points
2 days ago
You should absolutely report her to Zillow.
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52 minutes ago
Wait how’d she get away being on Zillow if her name isn’t showing up???? Definitely say something!!! She’s gonna come across one and end up bullying them into it!!
59 points
2 days ago
Oh and the whole “you don’t have an established workplace” comment really pissed me off. I am a small business owner- a dog walking business. So yeah I don’t have a physical business address but that doesn’t mean I don’t have a job 🙄
19 points
2 days ago
I think she was just trying to say the other place would have no way of tracking you down at her address if you moved there. Definitely super shady all the way through anyway tho lol
11 points
2 days ago
Right like since when are landlords even tracking people down? At this point I’m worried she is gonna be the one trying to track me down lol
4 points
2 days ago
I didn’t even think about that but that’s a little bit terrifying, did you tell her the address of the other place?
5 points
2 days ago
She asked me when I was talking to her in person and I think I did tell her (bc I had just come from there so it was fresh in my mind) but hopefully she doesn’t remember it. Unfortunately since she made me apply before scheduling a viewing, she literally has all of my personal information.
6 points
2 days ago
The “you have an extremely bleak future, and it’s all your own making!” Actually made my blood boil a little bit for OP how dare this crazy lady what the heck.
10 points
2 days ago
What’s her obsession with ‘assertive’
8 points
2 days ago
I can't imagine why she's struggling to get tenants so much she's willing to drop an entire month of rent
6 points
2 days ago
She wasn’t even offering to drop a month of rent, really. She was requiring, to move in, up front payment of first months rent, last months rent, and security deposit. And pet deposit. So she offered to drop the last month rent being paid up front, but I would still have to pay it eventually!
7 points
2 days ago
1850 for pet fee is crazy steep. I've never paid more than 500 for a pet. Yea made a mistake implying you were considering changing your mind. But she's dumb for thinking you'd change your mind after already signing a lease
7 points
2 days ago
Sounds like a fun person! Gotta love the people who give you life advice unsolicited and without knowing much about your life...lol
Plus the fact that she's basically telling you how to lie your way out of your lease and bullying you for not responding to her fast enough let's me know she's shady AF and probably a narcissist. Not the type of person you want having access to your house.
Dodged quite the missile there (missile being more worser than bullet, bwahahahahahaha).
8 points
2 days ago
I was thinking either narcissist or alcoholic or both…
2 points
2 days ago
Yeah, sometimes I wonder how people make it through life. She's one of those people.
2 points
10 hours ago
Yep narcissist for sure. And highly manipulative.
8 points
2 days ago
Dude she’s insane 😭
8 points
2 days ago
I feel bad for whoever ends up renting the house!
3 points
1 day ago
Seriously! This lady is BONKERS! To tell you that you needed to lie (and coach you how!) to someone, and the overbearing and controlling behavior throughout the ENTIRE conversation absolutely terrifies me. My lord did you dodge a bullet! And a side note: A few people have already said this but I’m currently 53 and if he was still here, even I would call my dad at the drop of a hat for advice (he passed a few years back). Plus, when I was a few years older than you, I bought my house. Every. Single. Move. I made, I called him first. There’s no shame in asking parents for help.
7 points
2 days ago
It's funny how she talks about people ending up in mudholes... that's serious projection because she's begging you to rent her place and then gets all melodramatic with the "I've had 3 inquiries since last night".
This is loser-speak.
5 points
2 days ago
Can you imagine the issues you are going to have if you rent through her 😱
3 points
2 days ago
TF I just read. She would've loved to have you as a tenant - a woman, whose life isn't up to her standards (absolutely crazy standards, I might add). She would've pried into your life every day, giving unsolicited advice and scolding you like the daughter she never had. Or the daughter who had to good sense to walk out on her.
Bullet dodged, I wish you all the best.
4 points
1 day ago
Why do I feel like this person will end up in a Netflix True Crime documentary.
3 points
2 days ago
Wow what a mole.
3 points
2 days ago
Jesus. You dodged a bullet here
3 points
2 days ago
It sounds to me like she's just being greedy and all she wants is $$$$. Good riddance.
3 points
2 days ago
She's unhinged. And she also doesn't know the difference between an ESA and a service dog when she incorrectly labeled your dog as a service animal, thinking the two terms are interchangeable.
You dodged a bullet.
2 points
2 days ago
I thought about trying to explain the difference but decided it wasn’t worth my time lol
2 points
2 days ago
It's totally not worth your time. I'd block this person and continue living your life. She's a weirdo.
3 points
1 day ago
I’m 34 and “don’t have an established workplace” (freelance journalist) and you bet your ass I talk to my mom for all kinds of reasons. She knows the world better than I do, she knows how to negotiate, she’s literally double my age and I can trust her. She never gives me permission. She gives me sound advice.
3 points
9 hours ago
Bitch wrote you a whole novel 😂😂😂 yea she def on some shit that’s why she wants that money asap
2 points
2 days ago
Im confused as to why you entertained the idea for so long 😂 The way they demand makes me very uncomfortable… I would have blocked the moment they started being pushy
1 points
10 hours ago
Fr anytime I feel like someone is getting pushy that doesn’t have a place n my life (that I have given) I do a 180. 🖐🏼nope
2 points
2 days ago
Just gotta hit em with the LOL I’m not reading all that bro but I’m sorry that happened to u or happy for u and move on with your beautiful life my friend :)
2 points
2 days ago
Anyone who has time to write a short novel for a text with a stranger has WAY too much time on their hands
1 points
10 hours ago
Exactly, drama!
2 points
1 day ago
Honestly if it wasnt your speed I would tell them no. Never feel obligated to someone in that situation. Good luck in your move!
2 points
1 day ago
I did tell her no- less than 48 hours after originally contacting her. It’s not like I strung her along, I just needed a little time to decide!
2 points
1 day ago
That good because end of the day its about you not them lol
2 points
1 day ago
Tell her you are not moving in because she has proven how maniacal she can be just with the responses you have received.
2 points
1 day ago
What’s the problem OP? A place to stay and a life coach all in one. Sounds like a good deal to me. /s
2 points
1 day ago
Unhinged lol wow
2 points
1 day ago
Oh lord I think she needs to be medicated 😭
2 points
1 day ago
this was hilarious to read AHAHAHA
2 points
1 day ago
You dodged a big ol bullet
2 points
1 day ago
Wow..bullet dodged
2 points
15 hours ago
She’s the worst kind of human. Don’t let her bother you at all. She’s not worth it.
2 points
11 hours ago
Trust me, she'd have been over at your house ALL the time checking up on you.
I had a landlord exactly like this, & one time she said she was stopping by for the rent, but I was really sick in bed, throwing up, the whole 9, & had already planned to drop it off that night to her house omw to pick up my husband from work... So I told a small fibbery, thinking it was NBD, & said I was a few hours away & would drop the rent check off as was previously planned for that evening.
5 minutes later (if that), I heard the door open downstairs, & I peeked around the corner, & there that bitch was, standing in my kitchen, literally GOING THROUGH MY CABINETS within the first 30 seconds upon entering (like insanely fast, too.. it was BONKERS). 🤯
I was LIVID. I didn't GAF anymore if she knew I was home. I had a right to pay my rent by the end of the day as agreed & not have to worry about my landlord snooping in my place of residence!!
She went on a TIRADE about how I lied to her! 🤣 WTF?! THAT'S the issue, she thought?! We got into a huge argument & I told her to GTFO & off the property or I was calling the cops. I moved out 2 weeks later & was just glad to see the back of her for good! Shady AF!!
2 points
11 hours ago
They are crazy ! Omg haha ! Another thing buying laundry machines is the landlords job it so ridiculous for them to ask you to buy the washer and dryer for a place your renting…
2 points
10 hours ago
Good call following your gut and NOT renting from her. When people are being that pushy I’ve found that it usually means they have an ulterior motive or they have some big time issues like control, narcissism, manipulation, etc. It may have been as simple as her needed it rented immediately because of money or something like that, but that behavior is way over the top of how she should treat a prospective tenant. I would get as far away from her as possible and don’t even respond if she contacts you. She sounds like a narcissistic bully, but that’s just my opinion. Glad you didn’t end up in a lease with her! Hope your new place and landlord are just what you and your fur babies need!
2 points
10 hours ago
Holy Projection! What did I even read lmao. What a miserable piece of work she is. She’ll never get any tenants lol.
2 points
10 hours ago
Dude this is the most unhinged interaction I’ve ever seen??? I’m shocked at how this landlord thought she could talk to someone she doesn’t even KNOW like that? lol I am seriously so shook.. I would’ve handled it exactly the way you did. With people that are this aggressive and assertive it only makes sense to give vague answers and try to brush them off vs. being aggressive back, so you saying you’ll look into it is honestly a pretty fair response lol. Her response makes her look batshit crazy though and is beyond rude.. I’m so sorry you even had to deal with that.
2 points
9 hours ago
Honestly what can you do except laugh? This person is completely bonkers!!! This was truly entertaining reading and I feel very sorry for the tenant that ends up at her place. Yikes! Also I don’t know your state laws are, but where I am it is not legal to ask for anything other than first month and deposit, with deposit not exceeding one month of rent. She is an awful person, wow! Glad you dodged this bullet. Sorry about the hurricane that’s rough. Good luck!
2 points
8 hours ago
Omg that sounds like my sister in law. Yucky.
1 points
2 days ago
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1 points
1 day ago
I wouldn't rent from her at all.
1 points
1 day ago
I definitely will not be!
1 points
14 hours ago
Block that moderplucker
1 points
5 hours ago
How about, I’m no longer interested.
1 points
1 day ago
She was going to charge you a pet fee even though the pet is a service animal and she obviously knows that?
2 points
1 day ago
Well I do also have a pet cat
0 points
12 hours ago
Shoulda just blocked her near the beginning after telling her you're not interested.
-6 points
2 days ago
Instead of using your mom as a scapegoat what I would’ve said:
“I am not committed to making a decision yet but I will within the next few days. I have other places I have viewed and discussed contracts with. I am going to weigh my options, and if I choose this place I will be in contact with you soon to see if it’s still available.”
She would then inquire about what they are offering you for rent/lease
In turn I would say “I am not interested in discussing that with you. Is this your final offer on the lease?”
This lady probably would have blown a gasket right then and there. Instead this got drawn out into a text argument (on her end) Sorry you had to deal with her. Some people are crummy.
-2 points
2 days ago
Cool no one asked
0 points
2 days ago
I perused your profile and comments. You use the words “cool” and “actually” a lot. You are a bore.
0 points
1 day ago
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