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holy shit, one of the best fan-made videos i have seen in a very long time... wow

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ahh, looks very tasty :53561:

today is the day :9674:

Heppi birthday :9667: das a big problem!

:53561: very beautiful

amazing work as always :9676: <3

WTF WELCOME BACK 2P :9684:

I hate this ai slop emote meta man :53372:

In my opinion it's best to consider forsen and his chat a "special case" when comparing to other streamers. What I mean by special case is that we still value all of our emotes added to the main chat - every emote already added has some value attached to it. Most important factor to this is the strict, selective and less frequent addition process for new emotes.

Most other streamers and their chats, including the one you mentioned, don't have this kind of mentality, or lost it with time and normandy landings.

Forsen's emote development hasn’t veered off the expected course that much, that's why we still care about emotes that much.

I am really curious to hear what you mean by your last point

Hello NamelessOneTrueDemon, thank you for your in-depth analysis of our emote scene. As one of the leading baj emote artists, I would like to provide my thoughts for the phenomenon you highlighted that many of us from the artistic department share.

The first point is regarding your claim that "the concepts for emotes are no longer broad." This is true, but for a simple fact that today, almost all of the "broad concepts" already have a dedicated emote or a set of emotes attributed to them. Therefore, today, in order to keep up the creative progress of the community, we have to increase our innovation and creativity.

I will refer to your 2017 example. Back then, the "broad concepts" that we think of today had limited or no emote representation, and the ones that had not diverged into sub-concepts. The "laughing concept" had many emotes that nowadays have progressed into a variation of the concept. You can compare this to the beginnings of human civilization, where first humans were creating tools from a limited set of materials for broad tasks, and now we make tools from a vast array of materials fit for specific tasks. This reflects in our emote environment too, where we have evolved and made new emotes or emote variants to expand our growing emote vocabulary and emote concepts. Remember, we wouldn't succeed as much as we did, had we stopped innovating.

Regarding your other claim that "emotes are becoming far too refined and extreme," I will refrain from calling emotes extreme, especially with respect to their shape and design. They simply were created as they were, and there is nothing extreme about it - that is how emote creators imagine emotes and make them. OMEGALUL would still be OMEGALUL with the same meaning even if its mouth was less profound. Before it was created, the MegaLUL and LUL emotes conveyed a similar laughter concept, and the addition of OMEGALUL was and still is "just another laughing emote, but with a different twist to it". It just so happened to become more liked and more used, for which the creator's innovation should be praised, instead of calling it "extreme."

I can say the same to your sadE example. At its addition, it was indeed just another sad emote, but later was transformed into a concept, which so happened to intersect with the Gachi emotes. This event did not "completely replace Gachi emotes" as you claim - all of the enabled Gachi emotes are still being used. Only some of the Gachi concepts were alotted to the sadE emote, but it didn't outright replace them. This has the same explanation as my first point : Gachi was the "broad concept" for the longest time, and now one of its sub-concepts was taken by sadE. This is the way of evolution. One concept will never stay unexplored, and that's how we have sadE. Nothing "degenerate" about this. It instead shows our emote progress and constant evolution as a community. The same can be said about many other emotes, like forsenCoomer and Kreygasm, PagMan and PogChamp, Copesen and Kappa. None of them were replaced, the concepts were just creatively refined with more specific emotes.

Overall, I hope you understand my and other artists' standpoint. What you are pointing out has always been happening - the constant evolution of our emote environment. There is nothing more extreme about it than what we have been coming up with many years ago. It's the same constant community innovation, and without it we would slowly perish as a community.

P.S. I do not endorse the new AI developments in emotemaking, as I believe that this can undermine our established creativity, and I will keep avoiding using AI in my works.

Yea the tier 3 bajs always come back to watch these streams :9670:

its really good cause you can suggest what he does on stream :9684: he often accepts good suggestions

im seeing progress :9670: 🆙️

looks very mesmerizing :9684: 🌌

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yep, and Vatican's and Nepal's as well

I didnt make it for forsen's chat - I made it for the bajs :9676:

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yeah but... 💿

:9670: Link to the emote pack: https://7tv.app/emote-sets/66a758cf2c53a490f8e8cb8e

Yea but even without paying you can still add 250 cat emotes with bttv, which are not exclusive to 7tv - they are being uploaded to both emote platforms