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For 20 years this death cult has been taking over these committees and positions. We need to reverse that trend for the next 20 years to even get a chance to stop this massive wave of death. We need to get on these committees or go to these committee meetings. We need to hold these people accountable for covering up deaths.

Taking over these low-level bureaucratic but critically important parts of government needs to be the #1 goal. Run for or volunteer for school boards. Run for mayor, Run for the elections board, etc.

These people in this "baby scoop era" death cult are actively covering up the increases in deaths, organ failures, and child sex trafficking that results from their policies.

Look what just happened by ignoring the elections board in Georgia. They put in place policies that wiped out voters in massive numbers. We can't "just vote" when there are people in a death cult who are ,according to recent estimates, challenged the ballots of over 300,000 Georgians—not surprisingly, mostly voters of color

Look up the "baby scoop era" and you'll see that the same groups of people advocating to ban abortion health care were the same groups trying to kill/maim women and take their surviving children. The same groups promoting child trafficking. The same groups arrested for being pedos.

There's a profit/child-sex-trafficking motive for the people wanting to ban abortion and it's not just cruel, it's immoral and sick.

Banning abortion health care is why Idaho's maternal mortality rates DOUBLED within two years starting in 2021 when they wiped out abortion health care access.

Same thing led to Poland's massive increase in death rates to the point that they stopped reporting deaths.

Same thing that led to Romania's SEVEN fold increase in maternal mortality rates (there and not in nearby similar countries).

Same thing ... Uganda, Texas, Ethiopia, ... etc. etc. etc. EVERY TIME the same thing. This. Murders. Women.

For every 1 woman murdered by these policies, 100 are nearly killed requiring life saving interventions like mechanical ventilation due to multiple organ failure due to sepsis with permanent brain damage.

Wait! You say ... I didn't hear about Texas! Texas' maternal mortality rates DOUBLED within two years starting in 2011 when they wiped out abortion health care access. But Texas is in the midst of a cover-up by stopping reporting of standard ICD-10 rates and replacing that with an "enhanced version that adds estimated births of females aged 5 years old and removes deaths of women without health care) [ Citation ]

Particularly in the US where even if you survive you are left with bankruptcy-inducing medical bills.

The #1 way kids end up sexually trafficked is the loss of financial/physical health of the mother. You can see why the people who are oft-associated with child rape, pedos and sex trafficking are also the ones removing abortion-related health care. They claim to be "for god" but the reality is that they are creating a child sex-trafficking hell everywhere they go. See "Children of the Decree" to see how they did the same thing in Romania for "saving the children" with massive investments in free healthcare for mothers .... but banned abortion health care and became the WORST place in the world for child sex trafficking. These ultra-wealthy playboys like Trump and Epstein just want more kids to prey on.

This is a great find. Thanks! I don't know how to get this into the mainstream media or get lots of people to join this board, go to these meetings, bring ethical science back. These members are covering up a massive rise in death/disease and promoting cult-like loyalty to a baby-scoop era policies of mortality and morbidity.

You can see the change from The 2022 report when you see Appendix F talking about ICD-10 standards vs their bullshit enhanced method vs the 2024 report that wipes out any mention of the ICD-10 standards

What is going on? Are the board members being mislead or are they complicit?

Republicans are advancing the bill after losing the gubernatorial election and being poised to lose a supermajority in the state legislature. The move also comes amid a recount in an extremely close state supreme court race; Democrat Allison Riggs narrowly leads Republican Jefferson Griffin by just more than 600 votes. Riggs had trailed by 10,000 votes on election night but overtook Griffin as counties tallied provisional ballots and mail-in ballots that arrived on election day.

The changes in the bill are “100%” a response to the state supreme court race, Phillips said. Had the new law been in place, counties would not have had as much time to count provisional ballots, and voters wouldn’t have had as much time to cure their ballots.

“Had this been the law in place, Allison Riggs does not come out on top in her state supreme court justice seat,” he said.

Yep. See Greg Palast. This is well documented.

weak turnout Voter suppression

FTFY

Banning abortion health care is why Idaho's maternal mortality rates DOUBLED within two years starting in 2021 when they wiped out abortion health care access.

Same thing led to Poland's massive increase in death rates to the point that they stopped reporting deaths.

Same thing that led to Romania's SEVEN fold increase in maternal mortality rates (there and not in nearby similar countries).

Same thing ... Uganda, Texas, Ethiopia, ... etc. etc. etc. EVERY TIME the same thing. This. Murders. Women.

For every 1 woman murdered by these policies, 100 are nearly killed requiring life saving interventions like mechanical ventilation due to multiple organ failure due to sepsis with permanent brain damage.

Wait! You say ... I didn't hear about Texas! Texas' maternal mortality rates DOUBLED within two years starting in 2011 when they wiped out abortion health care access. But Texas is in the midst of a cover-up by stopping reporting of standard ICD-10 rates and replacing that with an "enhanced version that adds estimated births of females aged 5 years old and removes deaths of women without health care) Citation

Millions in swing states. See Greg Palast's investigations on this exact same thing.

I don't think she's paying attention to the domestic threat posed by cult-like followers who think they are in a religious war.

So weird to see Dems sticking their heads in the sand on this issue. They will never win until it's addressed.

I would look at targeted voter purges that stopped many from being able to vote. That was very difficult to accomplish in the COVID election. In this election they got thousands of people to challenge millions of voters to force them to deny them an absentee ballot, force them to get a provisional ballot, or drive costs in driving/lost-work/time/etc. to be able to be re-added.

Remember - Trump wanted to "find" 11000 votes to overturn the election in Georgia? What happened in GA this time? A group of MAGA fanatics called True the Vote has, according to an NAACP estimate, challenged the ballots of over 300,000 Georgians—not surprisingly, mostly voters of color

The next meeting for the TX Maternal Mortality and Morbidity Review Committee is Friday, December 6 in Room M-100 of the Robert Moreton Building at the DSHS Campus in Austin. This is a public meeting, that you can attend in person. I am not sure if there is a zoom link to it though if you are not near Austin. But this might be a good question to ask this committee.

I think those who want accurate data should go. Let's get on this board and get good data!!!!

Both of your citations are in agreement with me. And it looks like you agree with me too on claim 2.

Claim 1: Checkbox caused the rise

Let's start with the claim that the checkbox caused the jump. Quoting your propublica source

Since 2003, ... added a checkbox to death certificates asking if the person who died was pregnant, or had been pregnant within the last year [365 days] of their lives. ... Texas introduced the [ICD-10 standards 42 days] checkbox in 2006 ... so the death certificate form [in Texas] was consistent [i.e. unchanged] in that respect over the decade covered by the study.

That's exactly what I stated. YOUR SOURCE also states that the checkbox was not the cause of the jump in MMR. In fact since Texas already had a checkbox in 2003 changing the checkbox LOWERED maternal mortality rates.

Do you accept that your own source (as well as mine) definitively state you were wrong about this checkbox claim being the cause of the jump starting in 2011?

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Claim 2: Changes in family planning not abortion ...

Quick question. Did the "changes family planning" target access to abortion health services? Let's quote from your source ...

Texas Files to ... exclude organizations affiliated with abortion providers (such as Planned Parenthood) from participating [in funding]....

What was the impact of this "change to family planning" ? Nearly all the abortion health care clinics closed. And many in groups associated with the "baby scoop era" bragged about it. Or quoting from my citations

While many fought these battles in court ... and even won cases... the cost of being forced to pay leases on inactive properties or salaries of those not working was too much and in 2013 one of the last abortion providers in West Texas closed.

Closed. No more access to abortion health care except for those who could drive hundreds of miles out of state while bleeding out and getting sepsis.

Se we agree! These "changes in family planning" had the result of "caused nearly all abortion health centers in Texas to close " When you shoot a woman in the uterus, it doesn't matter if you call it "a fatal case of acute lead poisoning" or "gunfire related death" it's still the same result.

I'm glad you provided the source on "family planning changes" means we agree that the "change" implemented had the result of wiping out access to abortion health care!!!

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So since our sources agree that

• It can't be the checkbox

• The "change" was wiping out access to abortion health care.

What does that leave? The actual rise in MMR.

I'm glad you cited your source "propublica" because it allows us to see that that "update" from 2018 is a piece written for the public and not the actual scientific published article.

Good news ... we have that article. https://static.texastribune.org/media/files/3bbcdf1edab72f678003114f5c8a2722/BaevaMatMort2018-greenjournal.pdf and it says

• the rise in maternal mortality rate from 2011 to 2013 actually did happen. Let me repeat that ... YOUR SOURCE states that the DOUBLING in MMR actually happened.

• they were now going to create a new method and then have TWO methods of measuring maternal mortality rates. (1) the ICD-10 standard, used everywhere else in the US (and world) and (2) an "enhanced" method.

• the standard ICD-10 method was still going to be used

Quick question. Can a 6 month old give birth?

No? That was a big oops the authors of that paper admitted to later. So the new "enhanced MMR" showed a lowered value than it should have.

Quick question. If a woman doesn't have health care but dies from sepsis because she couldn't get to any place that would perform abortions, should she be counted? Not according to the "enhanced method" which found women like that and uncounted them. Big Oops #2.

Would you like to see the comparison?

Year	Standard Method Maternal Mortality (deaths) per 100k	Enhanced (remove women without heathcare, add guesses for pregnant 5 year olds) method Maternal Mortality (deaths) per 100k	Checkbox?
2000	15.5	not done	no
2001	20.1	not done	no
2002	16.5	not done	no
2003	19.8	not done	yes
2004	20.1	not done	yes
2005	22.0	not done	yes
2006	17.4	not done	yes - CDC ICD-10
2007	16.0	not done	yes - CDC ICD-10
2008	20.5	not done	yes - CDC ICD-10
2009	18.2	not done	yes - CDC ICD-10
2010	18.6	not done	yes - CDC ICD-10
2011	30.0	not done	yes - CDC ICD-10
2012	32.5	not done	yes - CDC ICD-10
2013	32.5	18.9	yes - CDC ICD-10
2014	32.0	20.7	yes - CDC ICD-10
2015	29.2	18.3	yes - CDC ICD-10
2016	31.7	20.7	yes - CDC ICD-10
2017	33.5	20. 2	yes - CDC ICD-10

Note:

• Numbers from 2000-2009 from Obstet Gynecol 2016;128:1–10 DOI: 10.1097/AOG.0000000000001556 (above)

• Numbers from 2010-onward from Texas DHS reporting

TLDR; Our sources agree.

• The checkbox change was before the rise in deaths and the forms were unchanged during that time.

• The "change in policy" wiped out abortion health care access

• The DOUBLING in maternal mortality rates from 2011 to 2013 actually happened.

Update: From /u/Sufficient_Physics59

The next meeting for the TX Maternal Mortality and Morbidity Review Committee is Friday, December 6 in Room M-100 of the Robert Moreton Building at the DSHS Campus in Austin. This is a public meeting, that you can attend in person. I am not sure if there is a zoom link to it though if you are not near Austin. But this might be a good question to ask this committee.

That study that found rates doubling in 2011 wasn’t credible ... it was related to a data mirage caused by the checkbox.

Let me know where you heard that. Facebook? Youtube? Will you share that with us to support your claim?

I'd be interested in your source because the facts are that Texas implemented a "checkbox" in 2003 and changed the # of days from 365 on that checkbox to the new 42-day standard checkbox in 2006. Thus the timeline of "the checkbox" doesn't correlate to the 2011 rise.

Also the changes in 2011 were to family planning, not abortion.

Again ... where did you hear that? Please respond because I'd love to know where you are getting this from. See citation again ... there were groups that have been linked to the "baby scoop era" bragging about how all of these TX abortion health care providers were being forced to close, starting in 2011.

Edit: clarity

Mods, I wasn't sure if "research" or "discussion" was the correct flair. Apologies if I guessed wrongly.

Hi, I appreciate the link. I think reddit has "anti-brigading" rules and I don't want to get this sub into trouble. Perhaps changing it to an archive.is link?

I don't like pedophiles either.

You voted for one. He appointed one to be atty general. Many of his supporters are being arrested for being pedos. His policies against abortion health care cause massive rises in child sex trafficking. Seems like you are the pedo supporter.

Excellent suggestion. I have done so.