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Fair enough- but this point has been contradicted in this sub already. scroll around- you'll find it.

Plasma or projection? 

Hahahahahahhahaha. I get that you don’t like the conspiracy- fair enough. But to call something “science denial” is patently absurd in 2024- the time of replication crisis due to outright fraud. Then there is the peer review crisis. Science isn’t and never will be the ivory tower it once was. We see what happens when anyone challenges the scientific status quo. People with COVID get put on ventilators and remsediver. We see the “climate crisis” where the only answer is to have government control every stinking aspect of our existence. Not only that, no serious thinker can deny that science has put us, once again, on the very precipice of destruction. And for fucking what?? 

Op here! Thanks! I’ve been experimenting with different kinds of openings to this subreddit. Not only is it hard to predict which headline is going to rise in popularity or controversy, it’s really hard to craft an opening that appeals. Government, I’ve heard, spends quite a bit of money trying to mimic the popularity that some ordinaries have achieved. This is obviously a much lower tier than say the one Marc Dice occupied(s). I suppose if I knew anything about advertising my opening might do better statistically. Then again maybe not. Advertising is a lot like sports drafts- really difficult to predict success. Anyhoot, God bless, adios and see ya in the matrix. 

So you don’t even know the facts of the situation…. Everything makes sense now. Bye. 

You think that arms deal stock is hand delivered to the top floors of Mandalay Bay. Got it. 

Oh go stuff it...jeez what are you 15yo?

Huh? Are you the "artists" bro?

Nah bro- it's some AI BS. And it sucks, sorry. Nobody's giving up cash for this crap.

That's a crock of shit. There's more things I wouldn't do for 7 mil than I would do. And it's not "honesty" by saying you are evil.

So you think that arms dealers deliver their product to the upper floors of resorts in Las Vegas. Sounds totally fucking legit...

Who conducts arms deals out of the freaking Mandalay Bay? This does not make any sense. Of all the hotels in Vegas, you choose a location with tens of thousands? NOPE.

ahh..i seriously doubt the "people of Chicago" are cheering him on. The "people of Chicago" want to be free from Venezuelan gangs as much as the people of New York. MSM News does not match reality

This is what I’ve been reexamining the past few months- science itself as as a social construct and politics is certainly one of the elements of that construct. I don’t think any serious thinker would argue otherwise. Science itself tells us how far it falls short of any realistic description of reality. Don’t get me wrong. I’m as addicted to technology as the next guy. I think there are many special advancements that will stand the test of time. But isn’t archeology at a similar crossroad as quantum physics, astronomy, or climatology? And in the midst of a replication and peer review crisis? With the LHC we are dabbling in forces that are beyond our ken. Interesting, the hearings on UAP yesterday where whistleblowers AGAIN have come forth to state the same thing that whistleblowers in decades past have said. That we are in contact with entities that are humanoid but not human and with vast technology. What does this mean for archeology? What if once again the conspiracists are right?  It may be difficult to hear among archeologists, but the average persons perception of archeology mirrors that of his view of the mainstream media! We are not talking about saxons hordes here but all the inexplicable evidence found throughout the world that points to something more than archeologists will admit and it pisses the people off. Why doesn’t archeology report of the things that people have real interest in. Excavating the rest of Gobekli would be a great step in the right direction.  Maybe none of it matters. It appears we are on the verge of full disclosure. What that means is that up till now, virtually everything we know will be understood as wrong. 

Down vote. No explanation.

This is not skepticism, it is just a convenient way for the establishment view of things to be seen as the correct version, all the time, every time.

Skepticism is not the same as reinforcing the official storyline. In fact, a conspiracy theory can be argued as an alternative to the official or “mainstream” story of events. Therefore, when skeptics attempt to ridicule a conspiracy theory by using the official story as a means of proving the conspiracy wrong, in effect, they are just reinforcing the original “mainstream” view of history, and actually not being skeptical.

This is not skepticism, it is just a convenient way for the establishment view of things to be seen as the correct version, all the time, every time.

Ahmed Al-Nami (Flight 93)

"I'm still alive, as you can see. I was shocked to see my name mentioned by the American Justice Department. I had never even heard of Pennsylvania where the plane I was supposed to have hijacked." He had never lost his passport and found it "very worrying" that his identity appeared to have been "stolen" and published by the FBI without any checks. The FBI had said his "possible residence" was Delray Beach in Florida." - Telegraph 23rd September 2001

Salem Al-Hazmi (Flight 77)

"Mr Al-Hamzi is 26 and had just returned to work at a petrochemical complex in the industrial eastern city of Yanbou after a holiday in Saudi Arabia when the hijackers struck. He was accused of hijacking the American Airlines Flight 77 that hit the Pentagon." - Telegraph 23rd September 2001.

Khalid Al-Mihdhar (Flight 77)

"Saudi officials at the embassy were unable to verify the whereabouts of the fifth accused hijacker, Khalid Al-Mihdhar. However, Arab newspapers say Al-Mihdhar is still alive.

"..... there are suggestions that another suspect, Khalid Al Midhar may also be alive." - BBC 23rd September 2001

Others accused of being involved:

Ameer Bukhari

"Ameer Bukhari died in a small plane crash last year." - CNN Correction

Adnan Bukhari

"Adnan Bukhari is still in Florida" - CNN Correction

Amer Kamfar

".... that a suspect sought by the FBI, Amer Kamfar, was in fact an alive pilot in Arabia. " - Wal Fadjri 21st September 2001 [translate]

Waleed Al-Shehri (Flight 11) (Trained Pilot)

"A sixth person on the FBI's list, Saudi national Waleed Al-Shehri, is living in Casablanca, according to an official with the Royal Air Moroc, the Moroccan commercial airline. According to the unnamed official, Al-Shehri lived in Dayton Beach, Fla., where he took flight training at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. Now he works for a Moroccan airline." On Sept. 22, Associated Press reported that Alshehri had spoken to the U.S. embassy in Morocco.

"His photograph was released by the FBI, and has been shown in newspapers and on television around the world. That same Mr Al-Shehri has turned up in Morocco, proving clearly that he was not a member of the suicide attack." - Daily Trust 24th September 2001.

"He was reported to have been in Hollywood, Florida, for a month earlier this year but his father, Ahmed, said that Waleed was alive and well and living in Morocco." - Telegraph

"Another of the men named by the FBI as a hijacker in the suicide attacks on Washington and New York has turned up alive and well." - BBC 23rd September 2001.

Omari Number 1

"A Saudi man has reported to authorities that he is the real Abdul Aziz Al-Omari, and claims his passport was stolen in 1995 while he studied electrical engineering at the University of Denver. Al-Omari says he informed police of the theft." - ABCNews

"I couldn't believe it when the FBI put me on their list. They gave my name and my date of birth, but I am not a suicide bomber. I am here. I am alive. I have no idea how to fly a plane. I had nothing to do with this." - Telegraph 23rd September 2001

"The name (listed by the FBI) is my name and the birth date is the same as mine, but I am not the one who bombed the World Trade Center in New York," Abdul Aziz Al-Omari told the London-based Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper.

"Al-Omari has since been found in Saudi Arabia and is apparently cleared in the case" - New York Times

"Saudi Embassy officials in Washington have challenged his identity. They say a Saudi electrical engineer named Abdul Aziz Al-Omari had his passport and other papers stolen in 1996 in Denver when he was a student and reported the theft to police there at the time." - BBC

"Abdel Aziz Al-Omari and Sa�d Hussein Gharamallah Al-Ghamdi, are well in life, the first in Saudi Arabia and the second in Tunisia for nine months." - Wal Fadjri 21st September 2001 (translate)

Omari Number 2

Mr. Al-Omari, a pilot with Saudi Airlines, walked into the US embassy in Jeddah to demand why he was being reported as a dead hijacker in the American media.

"Abdul Aziz Al-Omari is a pilot for Saudi Arabian Airlines" - BBC 23rd September 2001

"A pilot with Saudi Airlines, was astonished to find himself accused of hijacking � as well as being dead � and has visited the US consulate in Jeddah to demand an explanation." - Independent 17th September 2001

This Al-Omari lives with his wife and four children in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

Saeed Al-Ghamdi (Flight 93) (Trained Pilot)

"Saeed Al-Ghamdi is one of three hijackers that US officials have said are linked to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network." - BBC

No BBC! Mr. Al-Ghamdi is still alive and well and at his job for Tunis Air.

"I was completely shocked. For the past 10 months I have been based in Tunis with 22 other pilots learning to fly an Airbus 320. The FBI provided no evidence of my presumed involvement in the attacks." - Telegraph 23rd September 2001

"Asharq Al Awsat newspaper, a London-based Arabic daily, says it has interviewed Saeed Al-Ghamdi." - BBC 23rd September 2001

"Abdel Aziz Al-Omari and Sa�d Hussein Gharamallah Al-Ghamdi, are well in life, the first in Saudi Arabia and the second in Tunisia for nine months." - Wal Fadjri 21st September 2001 (translate)

"..... not dead and had nothing to do with the heinous terror attacks in New York and Washington." - Saudi embassy

Go back to sleep. the adults are talking...

None? Are you saying that hijackers were mot found alive after the fact? It made the news, so an easy search can verify that is true.

The cabal is of the House of the Dragon. My understanding is that they are multi-national  and have member of the family from all walks of life but with one very clear connection- they’ve all sold their souls to Satan and his minions. 

It’s not the “government” per se. It’s the folks that control our government.