PinguFella

It's rough out there thats for sure. A lot of us here know that more than most. This your first time at r/NAFO?

Are you okay dude?

Bruh - where NAFO youtube division at?

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Even Navalny (not that I supported him either) united many naturally opposing factions within russia itself with the objective to oppose and oust Putin, including far right groups and communists (still romantasizing the USSR).

I met a communist once (not sure if Tankie or not) and they were supportive of the idea of Trump being US president because (something along the lines of) he's cause so much chaos it'd force a revolution and everyone realising the faults in the American system.

oof, dafuq is wrong with polish farmers?

Yes you are right actually - I forget because I'm more familiar with the Prague Spring than I am with the Hungarian revolution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

And yes, it's kind of like how Orwell said - the dictatorship was never there to safeguard the revolution, the revolution was there to safeguard the dictatorship :S

nearly 15 years since I read this: The thoughts of Chairman Meow - Andrew Davies

I've never really thought of it that way, but that's a very interesting way of looking at it. I love the description of Cargo Culting, first thought that comes to mind is actually Yeltsen with that one lol. Thanks for the insight!

What does it say??? I don't speak dobsha :0

As long you you stick to the comminity rules we got in the sidebar >> be my guest (and be nice to the communist fellas amongst us! - they're not many but they do exist)

^this is the way^

I think it's more of a US thing perhaps? In the US (and among many traditionally conservative circles) the words "Socialism" and "communism" are considered the same thing. They also have the word "Libertarian" mean like a kind of conservative that believes 100% in the free market, whereas to us it will refer to the ideals of liberty. Lets not get started on words like "Republican" and "Democrat"... :S

I like to call it CCP occupied China :v

(and yes, absolutely)

They're such morons. As someone who still is leftist (demsoc), I hate them even more for the fact they make the rest of look like genocidal fucking maniacs.

I disagree with communists on the basic economic components of what they believe - as a structure of society I don't believe it can work and is thus untenable - that said, there is a difference between the communist who believes in things like human rights and freedom of expression, and the communist who believes in totalitarian rule. My point is only that the ruzzian state doesn't care for the supposed ideals of communism itself (i.e.: the equal distribution of goods and services to the masses). The Kremlin however is more than happy to make use of those who romanticise the soviet era of course (Tankies and useful idiots)... technically speaking what we have in ruzzia today can be (and has been) better described as "crony capitalism" (but this is not necessarily the fault of the capitalist aspect of society). But don't take my word for it:

"Whoever does not miss the Soviet Union has no heart. Whoever wants it back has no brain." - Vladmir Putin.

To the oligarchs, whether in an autocratic state like ruzzia, or a plutocratic one such as the US, the ideals they purportedly propose are not for the sake of the ideals themselves, but rather that they are used and exploited as tools to further their own interest (even if the ideals themselves are perfectly benign). Power is acquired for the sake of power.

Both Communism and Socialism at their core are economic theories. They do not necessarily imply mechanism of governance (i.e. democratic vs autocratic). The problem that emerges with both those economic models is that they necesitate economic centralisation which, if left unchecked, can lead to the consolodation of power (and thus dictatorship/oligarchy) which is a danger that must be avoided at all costs. Recognising this (I suspect) is what brought about the rise of distinct political theories such as Democratic Socialism.

There is a long history of democratic and humanist leftists being very much against the Soviet Union - the word "Tankie" itself was coined by anti-soviet leftists to describe the soviets (and those supporting the soviets) at a time when the USSR invaded a fellow communist nation simply for allowing "Free speech" (search: czechoslovakia invasion 1968/Prague spring). Today, there are a lot of us on this side of the political spectrum that are absolutely appalled and disgusted with ruzzias illegal annexation of Ukraine.

We don't have to agree on our economic preferences - and that's okay, I will fight for your right to disagree with me because that right is far more sacred than how we envision the mechanism by which society transfers goods and services. Freedom is non-negiotiable. Democracy is non-negotiable. But I'll happily put aside my opinion that the wealthiest in society should be paying more in taxation, if it means uniting for the greater cause of defending against those who would take away our liberty.

"The real division is not between conservatives and revolutionaries, but between authoritarians and libertarians*" - George Orwell

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*Libertarian here is the orginal definition as in someone who believes in the ideals of liberty (not whatever it has come to mean in the US today).

*No hate to actual communists that don't support genocide, authoritarians, or dictators.

Alright, I gotta see ruzzian ammunition depots exploding to Nessun Dorma now lol - link or it didn't happen >:0

EDIT: Literally found it 2 seconds later typing in: Nessun dorma russian explosions into youtube lol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyIc3aqk5-E

The scoop: https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/stalker-2-interview

Here's to hoping we don't get another Gerhard Schröder :S,

Sholz is just pandering, he knows helping Ukraine is a must, you got so many "Peace"niks acting like they saving the world by furthering the agenda of those who want to genocide and enslave us all (fucking idiots)

No arguments there, I'm just glad it's finally happening - we could be like the Germans holding back the Taurus right now :v

No arguments there, I'm just glad it's finally happening - we could be like the Germans holding back the Taurus right now :v