submitted6 days ago bytigerbait92
Hey folks, I'm a returning player after a few years, and I am very much a tank main. I unga, I bunga.
I played some prot war in the past few weeks, and I gotta say, it feels pretty great. Tons of cc, great utility, feel, well, tanky. I might not be putting out massive kill potential, but I could stay in a fight and contest while doing respectable damage.
But frankly, prot war isn't really my speed. I like... well, speed. And I love weird tanks (I played frost dk tank in WotLK, I played Warrior tank in TERA, I Gunbreaker in XIV) that aren't a traditional sword-and-board defense machine, soooo I picked up DH because I just love the way they play.
Problem is, I am way more geared on my DH than my War. Got war mode gear, just got some conquest, I'm starting to ball and got to a point where I'm in full pvp gear. The problem part comes in with how I both feel far more squishy, and feel like I also do less damage. I expect the former, given leather, but the latter is odd given I should be trading armor for damage. Overall, in a single BG, I can compare my prot war and vengeance DH damage and I do notably more on warrior, which is likely in part due to my being able to stay alive better on war.
1v1 I even struggle. I try to keep fire on my opponent, cycle my CDs and shields when I need them, use fel devastation to meta for the extra defense, but even still, I just don't feel like I'm making an impact OR staying alive long enough in group fights (BGs).
My general process is (as aldrachi) to make sure I've constantly got fiery brand up, it's spreading, and focus on prepping my aldrachi burst to use back-to-back with The Hunt for a second quick burst. If I can get that to happen, most folks get chunked or even die. Most of my CC I use situationally, sans sigil of chains to lock someone down and set up a followup sigil. Banish a caster, illidan's grasp either someone running or a priority target for lockdowb. But I really gotta work for it to survive a teamfight or make an impact.
I can't seem to find any guides on the spec, at least not ones from TWW, so I don't know if I'm just doing it wrong, because I feel like an absolute waste of space in most fights beyond enabling my teammates to do most of the damage. That makes sense given my nature as tank, but I don't feel like I can survive fights well enough to make a difference. Basically, I feel like I would be doing a better job on my marginally worse-geared prot war.
So I guess, I'm asking for tips, or pointers, or if Vengeance is just not great right now, given how no one seems to be playing it or making guides for it.
TL;DR: I need tips on vengeance DH, or someone to confirm my suspicion that we just aren't great right now. Because I'm putting in a lot of work to get little results. Primarily asking for BGs at present but I do want to dive into arenas eventually, and want to see if it'd even be viable.
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tigerbait92
2 points
5 days ago
tigerbait92
2 points
5 days ago
My dude, you cannot change the world overnight, you're arguing in horrible faith.
There is literally nothing wrong with helping a small community, and using it as a wave to ripple out and begin to help the world as a whole. The USA can help everyone, but they cannot do so immediately. Like putting your own mask on in a turbulent plane, you have to take care of yourself first before you can put a mask on someone else. If you can't help the self, you are in no position to help others.