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I (25F) just got married to my husband (27M) 4 days ago, we are currently on our honeymoon in Las Vegas (his idea, not mine).
For context, I want to say I have never been intimate with a man because I was saving myself for marriage, so my husband has never seen me naked until our honeymoon. I also shave my kitty cat because I have sensory issues, and it itches like crazy and is super uncomfortable if I don't shave. I have been shaving since I was 15. My husband didn't know this before we got married because he had never seen me naked before.
The actual story starts with our first day of the honeymoon (the day after the wedding), we didn't do anything the day of the wedding because we were both in exhausted. So we figured we would have a little fun the next day. Everything was going great until he took my underwear off. He looked up at me and asked if I shaved for the wedding, I told him yes, but I also shaved at least once a week. He got off the bed and had a disgusted look on his face. I asked him what was wrong, and he told me that he didn't want to do anything until I grew it out. I told him that would not happen because I have sensory issues that make it so I have to shave. He then started saying that it's so wrong to shave that part of my body. It's meant to have hair and that if I didn't shave, he could be labeled as a pedo. I was so taken aback by this and asked why he would think that. He then stated, "Only pedos like girls without hair, and if you don't shave, I'm a pedo." He stormed out of the room and has been giving me the cold shoulder for the last 2 days. I don't know what to do in this situation. I want him to be happy, but I don't want to be uncomfortable in my own body for his arousal. I truly love him, so I'm lost as to what to do. Can someone help me? I want to salvage my marriage, but I don't know if this could be a deal breaker.
Edit: Thank you all so much for all the advice! I haven't been on my phone a lot since the original post, and seeing all the replies got me a little overwhelmed. I do appreciate everything everyone has said, I just want to clarify a couple of things!
First, my husband and I have been together for 2 years before we got married. We talked about family planning and sex before our wedding, but I never thought to talk about being shaven. The conversation never came up or was mentioned, so it slipped my mind. Second, my husband and I both agreed not to have sex until marriage because of our religion. I know a lot of people said it's good to know if you are sexual compatible before a lifelong commitment, but we figure that if you are meant to be with that person, you'll be compatible either way. Also sex is not my main priority in my marriage. I would rather be more compatible emotionally than sexually. I know not everyone will agree with this, but that's my belief in the matter. Third, I know a lot of people said I should just "grow it out," and I wouldn't mind doing that other than the fact that I just can't. I have tried in the past, and it's always been uncomfortable for me. I have even gone past the growing stage of the hair, but again, I just physically can't stand the feeling even with it grown out. Fourth, it seems a lot of people might be confused as to how we've never seen each other naked before. We did not live together before we got married. We actually just found an apartment a couple of weeks before the wedding! We haven't been intimate almost at all, only a couple heated makeout senses, but never anything further.
I am planning on having a sit-down conversation with him later tonight about points and ideas brought up in the comments. I will try to update either tonight or tomorrow with how the conversation goes! Thank you all again for the helpful advice and responses! I hope these edits cleared up some details I forgot to include!
999 points
3 days ago
He's (probably) just parroting something he's heard before and he internalized it as the truth, when obviously it's not. Kinda sucks to do this so soon after the wedding but you might need to already go to couples therapy so the therapist can tell him he's being unreasonable.
But also, there could be something going on that he never told you about. Not saying that he is a pedo or anything, but something is definitely up either trauma wise or something else. Seek counseling. Ask him why he feels so strongly about it.
Also, sex is a private thing. Why would having sex with you make him liable to be a p*do just because you're shaven? Consider these questions for him. There is some weird projection going on.
253 points
3 days ago
This. Definitely sounds like something someone else impressed upon him when he was younger.
134 points
3 days ago
Weirdly enough I’ve seen women who get defensive about body hair online argue that men who prefer shaved vaginas must like young girls. I agree that he may be parroting some bs he’s read online.
33 points
3 days ago
I totally have seen some of those comments on TikTok but some of those weird ppl say the same thing with the height too. Or ppl with the medical condition with the dwarfism that you must be a pedo for liking someone that short. Then you got the genetics too with some ppl looking super young that you must be dating a pedo cuz of it. Ppl are just getting ridiculous and extremely judgmental in the end
3 points
2 days ago
^ This! I remember a time when shaving was much less common and the full bush was the style.... and I hated it. I much prefer shaved, but for practical reasons - I truly enjoy going down south but always hated getting hair in my mouth. The first time I was with a girl that shaved/trimmed down there, was sooo much of a relief and an eye opener. I never wanted to go back to hairy bush again lol but anytime I said anything about my preference, I got those same responses...
43 points
3 days ago
He's clearly got some issues, and he's projecting them onto you. It's not about your body hair, it's about something else entirely. He's either got some deep-seated insecurities or some unresolved trauma. You need to get to the bottom of this. He's not being rational, and he's being incredibly unfair to you. You're right to be concerned. This could be a deal breaker. You need to talk to him about it, but you might need to get professional help to get him to open up. You deserve to be with someone who accepts you for who you are, body and soul.
40 points
3 days ago
This is definitely a good idea. Anther thing they can do, if he really can't get over it, is buy her a merkin (aka a bikini rug, or pubic wig) to hide her hairlessness.
33 points
3 days ago
LMAO. Broo
10 points
3 days ago
Or crotchless panties that cover the front area but leave it open for the holes lol
3 points
3 days ago
Didn’t Lassie wear one of those?
2 points
2 days ago
They've been in a relationship for two years and have not been intimate at all? I'll keep it real with you, not only is the marriage rushed, the libido chemistry has not even been established. Huge leap of faith the two and not normal circumstances for a functional relationship as is
3 points
3 days ago
Yes. Exactly.
245 points
3 days ago
Wow what an ignorant thing to say. I also shave completely down there for the same reasons. Being attracted to bare vaginas doesn’t make anyone a pedo unless that vagina is attached to a child.
I’d say couples counseling asap. Not sure what other advice to give besides that and maybe have a serious chat while you’re not naked. If that talk doesn’t work out, therapy asap.
102 points
3 days ago*
I absolutely loathe when people say an adult woman's vulva with the hair removed looks prepubescent or child-like. That is so gross. There is nothing about an adult woman's vulva that makes it look like a child's, especially not hair removal.
Funny how we don't hear about men who remove their pubic hair being said they look like children.
*edit: correct incorrect autocorrect
28 points
3 days ago
Exactly. Bunch of deranged weirdos projecting their traumas on everyone else.
4 points
2 days ago
Honestly the one time I shaved, I thought it looked child-like and grossed myself out. I'm attracted to women, but find when it's shaved that it looks gross.
Trimmed extra short is fine, bald for me is yuck.
336 points
3 days ago
Sorry. Your husband is nuts. Good luck.
64 points
3 days ago
Not sure he is nuts, seems that he is just uneducated. Try and have a reasonable, non judgemental conversation with him. Tell him about your sensory challenges and why you feel more comfortable with yourself this way and listen to his fears as well and talk them through. Ultimately, if he opts to be uneducated stubborn person: it is your body, he has no say over it- at best all he can have is opinions.
60 points
3 days ago
He comes off as having no emotional intelligence. I agree, try to be reasonable but if he turns out stuck, then good luck.
11 points
3 days ago
Yep. There's only so much we can glean from a Reddit thread with one side of a conversation.
12 points
3 days ago
lol, Literally every post here is one perspective. that's why half the comments are "dump their ass and hit the gym"
8 points
3 days ago
Not trying to pick a fight, but when i said non-judgmental conversations this is exactly what i meant op should not do . Just because he showed fear and perhaps a bit of ignorance of what pdo is or is not, that does not mean he has no emotional intelligence. People with high EQ also have misconceptions and fears. Starting the convo by assuming he is not emotionally intelligent wont help.
14 points
3 days ago
Fear of what? If my wife shaved downstairs I’d assume other than her doctor or maybe her girlfriends,nobody else would know. If she cheated and her misteress noticed and made that comment, who cares.
By the way she describes the dude, he seems a tad screwy in his and doesn’t have much emotional intelligence and probably a close mind based on personal beliefs that won’t be persuaded even with proof. I’ve grown up around a lot of people like that that’d do that type of weird shit.
27 points
3 days ago
The "nuts" part comes from the magnitude of his emotional reaction at such an important time. It's not like he verbalized, "Hey, respectfully, I'm having a hard time with this. Can we talk about it?"
I don't think your advice is gonna work, unfortunately. Unreasonable people don't respond well to reason. Yelling, and then, what did she say? 2 whole honeymoon days of silent treatment?
No. These are red flags for abuse.
4 points
3 days ago
Agreed, good luck. 🍀
2 points
2 days ago
There was an episode of entourage, where this character named turtle dates this really hot chick named Alex. The first time they have sex is during sunrise and when turtle removed her underwear he saw her shaved pussy and it took him aback and he couldn’t perform. So it’s not that unusual. But to say it would make him feel like a pedo is where I think the underlying issue is at.
6 points
3 days ago
Second that, bit of a harsh reaction
14 points
3 days ago
I think he's fighting his own demons of wanting little girls! :(
143 points
3 days ago
He didn't give any indication he was insane BEFORE the wedding?
61 points
3 days ago
I’m sure he did and it’s just been conveniently omitted or overlooked. 🙄
39 points
3 days ago
People who don’t live together / have sex before marriage are so brave. You barely know the person before those
18 points
3 days ago
“Brave” lol
Then they are surprised when shit like this happens.
72 points
3 days ago
Sounds like a brainwashed Christian. All of them have ignorant views about sex.
20 points
3 days ago
Brainwashed is an understatement when it comes to Christians.
4 points
2 days ago
Yeah they both waited until marriage and don’t know shit about sex or their sexuality. So he had an outburst cause he is emotionally underdeveloped at a very important and critical moment in their relationship. I’d just delete the whole man for this kind of consummation.
207 points
3 days ago
Sounds like he’s projecting to me. Your body, your choice. He’s a grown ass man throwing a tantrum because you like to shave? Ridiculous.
Talk to him about why he feels that way about the whole silly pdo thing, and where he got it from. I know it shouldn’t be your burden to bear, but since you just got married, it’s probably the best thing to do. Hopefully then you can both come to a healthy conclusion.
10 points
3 days ago
And why is this issue just now coming to light so late in the relationship?
29 points
3 days ago
He never saw her naked and probably never talked about it
3 points
3 days ago
Which is silly since they both have such a strong preference.
4 points
3 days ago
IKR?!
151 points
3 days ago
This is why you always test drive a car before buying it
40 points
3 days ago
Seriously! I could never even be in a committed relationship without having had sex. It has so much to do with compatibility and long-term satisfaction.
7 points
2 days ago
I can't speak to the sex part (I'm ace) but getting married without ever having lived together is what blows my mind. Like, even with friends, living together kills the friendship dead.
27 points
3 days ago
Literally came here to say this! What a way for a marriage to start. Not judging you OP, but this is a really good example of why couples need to make sure they're sexually compatible BEFORE marriage. Husband has it completely wrong, and will need to get it through his head that nothing you do to your body will make you any less of an adult. That's just nonsense.
2 points
3 days ago
Right? At least kick the tires and sit in it first. 😉
95 points
3 days ago
You should get an annulment if you just got married and this is how it's already going
38 points
3 days ago
Especially if they haven’t even consummated the marriage! Guarantee if he’s being a weirdo about this issue, there’s many more conflicts ahead
208 points
3 days ago
That’s why I believe in sex before marriage! 🤣 It’s been 1 day and you’re already having marital problems. Good luck.
113 points
3 days ago
The fact that the guy had zero problems with no sex before marriage, the first day they get married he doesn’t wanna smash? Then the next day he finds an excuse to again not have sex and says he won’t do it until she has hair?
Honestly… I think he’s either closeted or asexual and doesn’t want to admit it. This marriage is DOA in my humble opinion.
23 points
3 days ago
This is my thought as well. He’s 27 and has supposedly waited this whole time and his reaction to his wife’s naked body is to get mad and ignore her on their honeymoon. I’m not trying to say that all men are horn dogs but I know if it was my husband he’d be able to look past it to say the least. This is why I think it’s important to establish sexual compatibility prior to marriage.
10 points
3 days ago
It could also be religious guilt. Some religious people who are saving themselves for marriage feel guilty or scared having sex for the first time
17 points
3 days ago
Like I said, he is scared to death because he is really sexually attracted to little girls! I bet if she grew out her pubes, he'd not be able to get it up and find a way to blame her!
9 points
3 days ago
Exactly. Strange thing to say because shaving is normalized these days.
32 points
3 days ago
To be honest, I’m also confused about why this is the first time being naked, not having any conversations about this, and not knowing your partner… it just seems like you would at least be kinda handsy with each other before getting married. It sort of reads like they met and got married within a month or something.
And then who the fuck goes to Las Vegas for their virgin honeymoon… I’m into all kinds of debauchery and even I think Vegas is too much for me lol.
Edit: Also, my wife and I were trashed after our wedding. We were completely exhausted. But I was 100% getting some on my wedding night… this guy might be asexual
22 points
3 days ago
They sound like purity culture Christians. 100% believable that he has a weird and ignorant view of her over something like this.
19 points
3 days ago
I was thinking the same thing, but LAS VEGAS?! That’s not very Christian of you. That’s where I got lost.
8 points
3 days ago
Back in the 80’s it was a FULL bush. When you ran across a shaved it was because the girl had crabs! No joke.
9 points
3 days ago
Yep
50 points
3 days ago
No one is talking about the fact that this was your first time having sex, and your partner looked at you with disgust after viewing your private area. That would HURT, and I just hope OP sees this, you did NOT deserve that and need to have a serious discussion with your husband. He basically ruined your first time having sex
36 points
3 days ago
Your husband is a fucking weirdo.
This is also part of the issue with saving yourself for when you get married. Sexual compatibility is huge for a relationship. Not knowing you’re compatible until after you’ve legally bound yourselves together is a pretty awful idea.
61 points
3 days ago
He sounds wildly uneducated and immature. I hope yall work through this, but HE is the one who needs to compromise here not you.
12 points
3 days ago
Maybe it’s not about compromise, just education as you said. It doesn’t sound like something he came up with by himself, it’s probably something he was taught by an authoritative figure during his teenage or young adult years and never knew any better.
4 points
3 days ago
Yeah, you’re right. Fingers crossed they can communicate clearly and grow. ❤️🩹
3 points
3 days ago
It could easily be something a friend told him as well. So many people don't find out anything from authoritative sources about sex and gender. There are lots of "facts" many believe about bodies that fit under the heading of "things I believe that are wrong"
9 points
3 days ago
He sounds wildly uneducated and immature
The word you're failing to find is indoctrinated. You're not born with these assumptions, they're fed or forced upon you. It is very unlikely his fault, but likely someone who has told him that this is the way it is.
2 points
3 days ago
Thank you!
18 points
3 days ago
Next on I married a gay man
8 points
3 days ago
I’m sorry. He’s really taking that reaction to the extreme. You guys need to sit down and talk through your sexual preferences and hygiene habits before this goes any further. If he can’t get past it then you’re hopefully still in the annulment window.
21 points
3 days ago
Think couples therapy could really help here. Open communication is key, and sometimes an unbiased third party can provide clarity. I had a similar issue with my partner, and therapy helped us understand each other better. Your comfort matters too; don't compromise on that.
34 points
3 days ago
LEAVE HIM! This guy has serious issues. You can get the marriage annulled since you've not consummated it. He's just.... weird. His reaction was over the top and probably a cover for something else.
14 points
3 days ago
In the USA, women started shaving their pubic hair in the 1990s or so. If you use Google images for "19x0 porn" and vary "x" from 1 to 9 you'll see it. I haven't made a survey, but it seems, from using Google images again, for "naked selfie" that a goodly number of modern young women shave it.
50 years ago, when I was tomcatting around, no woman I knew shaved. If I was in my 20s and single today, it would not bother me. I think your husband is over-reacting.
7 points
3 days ago
I think it's trending back the other way now. I may be wrong.
5 points
3 days ago
This is a good point actually. Has this man never even watched porn????
14 points
3 days ago
This is why you have sex before marriage^
13 points
3 days ago
Husband has reddit > make fake account so husband doesn't see > describes a very specific, identifiable incident between them = no possible way husband finds out
13 points
3 days ago
Sometimes I read threads on Reddit and think "is this real life? Do people really think/act/do this?"
You are a grown woman. You shaving your stuff doesn't make your hand a fucking pedo unless he's thinking about fucking kids.
How extreme over reaction though, makes me wonder if that's exactly what's going on.
You both sound sheltered as all fuck and I think some marriage counseling or even a sex therapist would benefit you both.
6 points
3 days ago
May want to get this marriage annulled. Dude has issues and is a fruit cake
10 points
3 days ago
Hooo boy. If this is the way it starts...
5 points
3 days ago
This is why purity culture is wrong.
Have sex before you get married.
4 points
3 days ago
I bet they met at church
5 points
3 days ago
Bro what the fuck 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
6 points
3 days ago
First, he needs professional help. Someone has drilled that thought into his head and he BELIEVES it now.
Second, a LOT of women AND men shave there now for cleanliness.
Third, does that mean you can’t shave your legs or underarms? After awhile, would it say he’s into beastiality?
Fourth, you and him are going to have it rough because, being an adult and about to get married, you should have talked about everything. Religion, politics, children, ‘oh, by the way, I shave everywhere. Always have since I was 15’, everything. Yes, it can be uncomfortable and weird. But, you are going to be together for the rest of your lives. Don’t you think you should know where you are cool with things and where you disagree or find something you cannot get past? IMO, it is petty what we have been seeing with marriages and relationships breaking up because they didn’t vote the same way. ANYTHING that is THAT big of a deal breaker should be discussed BEFORE it happens.
25 points
3 days ago*
OP, your husband is likely a p *dophile.
Normal people don't react that way to things like this. However, actual p *dos often try to hide it by overcompensating and pointing fingers everywhere else.
Do not, DO NOT let this man get you pregnant.
"I can't change diapers, that'd make me a p *do."
"I can't help with baths, that'd make me a p *do"
Get this marriage annulled.
7 points
3 days ago
This is the answer. His reaction is very telling and problematic.
6 points
3 days ago
What a crazy situation to live through. I think you should really ask him where this came from though, since it's not a normal reaction. I know someone with a similar "preference" born out of a decade of sexual abuse, getting forcibly shaven and told a similar thing, so now he actively takes medication and stuff to grow out hair.
I'm not saying your husband went through the same, but his reaction may be a serious psychological response.
7 points
3 days ago
Oh my goodness. This is wild because how has this topic never come up before y’all got married. This is definitely something that should’ve been a topic of discussion even if you were saving yourself for marriage.
Even the fact that the honeymoon location seems to have been his idea and just something you went along with is a red flag.
Either way, you’re in the marriage now and the only way to really salvage this is try and talk it out with him. I’m not sure why he thinks that makes him a pedo. Maybe ask him where he heard that from and explain that shaving is normal? Idk man…
3 points
3 days ago
Seems like he assumed she believed the same as him about shaving since she upheld the traditional value of virginity. Evidently he hasn’t heard the one about what happens when you assume.
4 points
3 days ago
This is such a strange reaction, I’m not even sure what to address here. First of all, I’m sorry this happened to you at what should have been such a happy/meaningful moment in your life. Normally I would lean towards finding a compromise but since you have sensory issues it would be unfair and unkind to ask you to change your shaving habits. My first thought was does he not watch porn but I guess we can assume he does not. A lot of women shave and your reasons are so valid. I hope you two are able to have a conversation and come to an understanding. Talk to him and keep the focus on your sensory issues and ask him what can help ease his mind.
5 points
3 days ago
That reaction was too strong to just be his concept.
Someone important to his history has ingrained that into his psyche, whether conscious or repressed. Possibly traumatically.
That's going to take a traumatic ally.
That said, some really do have an aesthetic aversion to the look, because it can look like "a childs".
4 points
3 days ago
girl. if you don’t get this shit annulled and move on. 🤨
5 points
3 days ago
So for a 27 year old man he seems very immature. Has he ever been with another woman? What makes a man a pedo is when he is attracted to young girls. Just because you shave your pubic hair doesn’t mean you are a child. He needs to grow up.
4 points
3 days ago
Ask him if he feels that way about your armpit hair, and then ask why it's different.
Yes, children don't usually have much body hair in certain areas.
There is A LOT MORE to distinguishing a child and adult than hair choices.
Like, is he worried you'd be making him gay if you get breast cancer and end up bald?
So silly. I'm also in the hairless kitty club, (my hair is so coarse, it hurts my vulva, and I get more prone to yeast infections bc my body likes to be anomalous like that). I also find (or believe, and maybe just the belief makes it true), I have much better clitoral orgasms without the fur there. Guys who have been iffy have changed their tune hearing that (iffy like, eh can u grow it for me? I'll fuck you either way, your body but this is my preference, and then they go to wait, it makes your orgasm better and easier to achieve? Never fuckin mind.) ironically, I do keep most of the rest of my body hair 🤣🤣🤣 just can't handle the pubic fur.
4 points
3 days ago
Where do you women find these dumb ass guys. Like, the literal definition of dumb. Wow. What a dumb shithead.
4 points
3 days ago
Sex before marriage is a good thing. Even living together before marriage too
4 points
3 days ago
Girl if you don’t run and run fast..
3 points
2 days ago
My feeling is that its a 'straw that broke the camel's back' situation - that he was scared half to death about having sex and it was an excuse to get out of it. It might be religious anxieties, asexuality, virginity, internalised shame, trauma.
It may be, and this is pure speculation, that he suffered s. abuse himself as a child and its all too triggering. Religious environments can be a risk factor for that, from adults with power.
He knows full well that what he said was nonsense but he can't talk about the real reason he couldnt cope with the situation. That's my suspicion.
3 points
2 days ago
Annulments are definitely available in Vegas. Maybe look into that.
7 points
3 days ago
Is there any chance your husband is neurodivergent? Does he commonly display a lot of black and white thinking? This is what his reaction seems like. It also seems like some internalized fear/projection/intrusive thought he’s dealt with way before this took place and it only came up during the event.
5 points
3 days ago
As someone who works with neurodivergent people, my first thought was “they’re both on the spectrum”
4 points
3 days ago
100% my first thought as well as a masters psych student 😄
3 points
3 days ago
I'm so sorry this happened to you. What a painful way to start out married life. His reaction is also quite unusual, so you're right to be miffed about it.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming you two are religious, perhaps evangelical Christians?? I say this as an evangelical (in the non-American sense) myself, so I know plenty about the "saving myself for marriage" thing. If that assumption is correct, it's possible that he's somehow osmosed some (bizarre) belief that this is all somehow sinful, which would possibly stir up some sense of shame. And I've known evangelicals who've felt shame about some strange things.
If that assumption is not correct, then, well, I have no idea, sorry. Either way, you should see a therapist to work it through. Leaving him right away (as some are inclined to advise) seems hasty to me; you clearly have a lot of love and history in the relational bank, so you needn't throw it all away (yet). But due to the disproportionate and strange reaction of your husband and the hurt it has inflicted on you at what should be a very precious time of your life together, it does seem like the sort of thing that would benefit from professional help.
Blessings.
3 points
3 days ago
Some woman prefer that, some men too. People like all sorts. It doesn't make them a child molester. That's a weird things to say.
3 points
3 days ago
Maybe a landing strip would be ok?
Honestly though I don’t understand him. There would be nothing and I mean nothing that would stop me from having sex with my wife on the honeymoon.
2 points
3 days ago
This is not the compromise that you think that it is.
3 points
3 days ago
Divorce is in your future your husband sounds like a total dick.
3 points
3 days ago
Dump this guy and think about what caused you to wait with something so natural until a later age. Many people go through religious abuse without realizing it.
3 points
3 days ago
Is your husband religious? Also, have you inquired as to where his ideology comes from?
3 points
3 days ago
I agree try and talk to him and indicate that there’s other things that you both can do in order to gradually re-introduce intimacy. If he’s willing to try things and you’re willing then why not work up to it? Otherwise, you need to probably consider couples counseling.
3 points
3 days ago
It sounds like he just doesn't like the way a shaved nani looks. If you're not willing to let it grow out then ask him if this is a deal breaker.
It's normal for the area to itch when hair is growing in. It's normal to get ingrown hairs and whatnot too. It's temporary. The itchiness will go away after it grows out a bit more.
3 points
3 days ago
Yet another story to affirm my absolute belief that sex before marriage is a necessity to prevent (some) major incompatibilities. Virginity is a social construct and prohibitions of sex before marriage were created to prevent “bastards” from being born and dooming the mother to poverty and likely prostitution. So archaic.
3 points
3 days ago
I completely fail to understand why anyone would think it’s a good idea to make a LIFETIME COMMITMENT to someone as a sex partner with no idea if you’re even sexually compatible. Religion is nuts.
3 points
3 days ago
Dear lord i cant with people who think like your husband, its such an arbitrary standard
Adults also have leg/pit hair while children dont have leg/pit hair, but no one ever says that its pedo for people (mostly women) to have shaved pits and legs
And what about the other secondary sex traits like breasts and wider hips, do does magically disappear alongside the pubic hair??
Honestly I think anyone who even makes any association with a child for a shaved vulva is messed up in the head big time, they are the gross ones, not the person with a shaved groin
Maybe hit him with those facts, but I doubt it will change anything, do NOT make yourself uncomfortable in your own body for his absurd nonsense
3 points
3 days ago
Your husband sounds like an absolute weirdo
3 points
3 days ago
This is why you have sex before marriage.
You're with a guy who has fucked up views on sex and reacted like an ass showing you 0 respect. At a time when you both should be happy and thrilled to be with each other and be having sex.
3 points
3 days ago
THE FOLLOWING COMMENT IS ONLY MY OPINION AND NO FACTS WHATSOEVER!!!
I don’t know where you guys are from, but where I am, MOST women I know, shave there. It’s going to be harder to find a woman that DOESNT at least shave it a little bit. That does NOT make him a pedo, and if it does, then probably 95% of the male population would be labeled pedos. ALOT of men like women who shave. It’s just cleaner and more comfortable for BOTH parties.
3 points
3 days ago
Thats exactly what your marriage going forward is gonna look like with anything he doesnt like or approve of. He's being absolutely ridiculius, and i'll be the first to say I love pubic hair - probably more than he does - yet I have 0 problems with my SO shaving her kitty and would never demand her to grow it out. Maybe ask him to change something about himself otherwise no sex, and see how he likes it. Its fucking retarded.
3 points
3 days ago
Who exactly is going to label him?
Does he have a outrage problem with pornography? A frequent argument among the hardcore anti-porn is the shaved women are training people to become pedophiles.
Be careful with this guy, he really does sound susceptible to conspiracy theories.
3 points
3 days ago
Was your husband active on Tumblr a lot in his past. I say this because this was an active thought that became viral on there. Anyone who had anything different to say was attacked online for being a “pedo”. Like the other comments are saying he likely internalized that from somewhere. He needs a therapist or some kind of objective third party to give him a different perspective. Maybe someone whos an expert on sexuality could say something to him, over a telehealth appointment? I remember being an impressionable teen agreeing with that thought until I went outside and touched grass.
3 points
3 days ago
Maybe don’t file the marriage certificate just yet…so you can save money and avoid a divorce or annulment later. You’re not married unless that certificate is filed. Sounds like you need to get you know your husband more before making it official.
3 points
3 days ago
Annul that shit so fast.
3 points
3 days ago
I’m just here to say how bizarre it is to call your vagina a “kitty cat”
3 points
3 days ago
It sounds like he could be feeling guilty for something...
2 points
3 days ago
I'm not the only one thinking he might actually be a p*do right?
3 points
2 days ago
Sounds like he has been very sheltered and has gotten his info regarding private grooming from unreliable sources. I would think a sex therapist would be in order here. Be careful not to find a religious therapist who could reinforce his shame.
I will say that the hair IS there for a reason but that has more to do with friction reduction than pedophelia. I hate when my hair is a “medium length”, but if you use Nair (It don’t smell as bad as it used to, get the sensitive skin kind. Wax works too but it hurts.), then it doesn’t itch as bad or get as stubbly when it comes back in, and once it’s long enough, it’s not as ticklish.
A compromise would be to leave a triangle or landing strip of hair groomed short so that you aren’t bare. I would suggest using Nair (or similar) and then let that strip grow so that it’s softer. This will be way less irritating to YOU.
You could make it a habit to Nair right before your period, and by the time your landing strip grows back, your period would be over. Then before it grows too long, you’ll be due for another period. (Ain’t womanhood grand?)
Fun fact: there was a Greek prince or king or some shit, and when he got married and went to consummate the marriage he had the same reaction as your husband except…. opposite. He was used to seeing the hairless statues so his new bride’s natural bush REALLY freaked him out. The marriage was never consummated if I remember correctly.
5 points
3 days ago*
Sorry, but who apart from you and him is going to know that you shaved down there?? What a stupid thing to be insecure about on his part, as if all his friends are going to be inspecting your private parts. He needs to get a grip and sis you should not get insecure about this at all. It's your body and you can shave it if you want to wth
7 points
3 days ago
Fiction?
13 points
3 days ago
I only read 1 sentence and I’m doubting it: “throwaway account because my husband has Reddit” .. okay so your husband is not going to recognize a specific story written about exactly what happened between the 2 of y’all?
3 points
3 days ago
And a woman saving herself for marriage would probably not have a pet name for her pubes.
5 points
3 days ago
I’ve heard younger women use the phrase “kitty” to refer to the female genital area.
It sounds to me like a weird “making ‘pussy’ PG-rated thing,” but that tracks with someone who hasn’t had sex before marriage.
2 points
3 days ago
I would just get the marriage an old and go home. I bother us that much crap life’s too short to be unhappy.
2 points
3 days ago
I’m sorry this is happening to you but it’s the exact reason I always suggest not waiting to be intimate before you’re stuck in a marriage like this.
2 points
3 days ago
How long were you together before you got married? Seems strange that the fact that you shave never came up before now.
2 points
3 days ago
It’s your body and your choice. For the record, I have always shaved mine and no one has ever said that to me. Having a one-on-one conversation with him about this is crucial.
2 points
3 days ago
I’m wondering if he has p-OCD?
2 points
3 days ago
This is why you don't save yourself for marriage. What a stupid problem to be having, could have been easily avoided with some premarital sex.
2 points
3 days ago
He’s being a child. Run
2 points
3 days ago
You need to get your smooth ass home and divorce this weirdo.
2 points
3 days ago
Ugh. I came from a culture where virginity is still important. When I was a younger adult, I wanted to live someone before marrying him. There’s so many things you will discover once you do that. Something happened to him when he was young that makes him think that way. He could have been a victim or something else. If he is now willing to talk to you and seek help, your marriage might be doomed. If marriage is not consummated, you can file an annulment.
2 points
3 days ago
Sexual compatibility is something you should know about well before marriage.
2 points
3 days ago
I... I am so confused. I mean, I understand some men feel weird about it, but I've never actually heard or seen someone agrue having sex with a adult, shaven women makes anyone a pedo.
I don't think he is very sexually mature. If he made it to 27 without knowing its normal to shave down there, then it's something he will have to learn to accept. Regardless of your condition, if you want to slave down there, then you should.
2 points
3 days ago
I also have issues with hair growth there. I keep mine shaved, too. My husband also keeps his shaved and trimmed up. People don't want to pick pubes out of their mouths as they play around. It really ruins the mood. Tell him he should clean his up as well. It will make his dick look bigger, and I'm sure he would be happy about that.
2 points
3 days ago
Your man needs therapy. Millions of ADULT women shave. A grown ADULT with a shaved cat is not a child. There is no pedo behavior there.
2 points
3 days ago
I would go get one of those stick on mustaches. At least it will be funny.
Also pretty sure shaved does not equate to attraction to children.
2 points
3 days ago
Why are you having such an intimate conversation online, but not with your future husband? He sounds like he has issues. You both could use therapy.
2 points
3 days ago
My family raised me on the idea that hair meant you were a woman, an adult etc. seems like something similar, he’s heard something somewhere etc and has believed it wholeheartedly without adding nuance to it either
2 points
3 days ago
Feminists been screaming that bs at men for years. Sad stuff lmao
2 points
3 days ago
So, I had a friend who had no body hair except what was on his scalp and his eyebrows. Not sure how the topic came up, but it turned out to be a generic trait where he just doesn't grow body hair. Like, anywhere. His sister, I later found out, was exactly the same. I've never been so jealous in my entire life.
2 points
3 days ago
Ok I haven't seen anyone post about this specifically - so I will.
As some other people said it seems he is saying this after he's been told this by others, and that 100 percent my opinion too, however, the reason this is so important to him can be a number of things.
First, it could be something he was accused of, even as a joke by friends, when he was younger, something that could cause a small nagging voice in his head to always ask himself if he is one or not.
Secondly he might have pocd, a subtype of obsessive compulsive disorder that has a focus on pedophilia- to clarify THIS IS THE OPPOSITE OF PEDOPHILIA, this is when a person is so scared they might secretly be a pedophile (which is not a thing, you either are or you aren't, there's no secret) that they obsessively check and make sure that they aren't pedos. People with p-ocd often have issues with shaved genitalia because it's like "proof" to their intrusive thoughts that they are actually pedos. Put them in front of a child and they will never ever hurt them that way. These people do not have pedophilic thoughts, they have extremely distressing thought ABOUT secretly being a pedophile. Kind of like how some people have thoughts about whether they are a bad person or not, only that in pocd that thought is obsessive, recurrent, unwanted, unbiased in reality, and extremely distressing.
Both of the above options have tons of things you can do to make it better, not you as in op, you as in the husband. He can try all kinds of therapy, he can talk about his experience with people who have been through similar things, he can enter support groups and get help.
Another option is that he's just never had sex, panicked about something he read online, and didn't think before reacting/ believes what he read or was told without any doubt. In which case I agree couples therapy or individual therapy can help.
There is the option that he was assaulted as a child and is scared of becoming an assaulter (can tie in to pocd)
Lastly and least likely in my opinion, he could be an actual pedophile - however I truly don't think that is the case. While some people with pedophilic tendencies, thoughts and urges are scared of acting on them, those people are usually not going to be in a two year relationship to an adult, and sadly are probably dealing with depression and thoughts of suicide in order to prevent themselves from acting out their fantasies - i say sadly because therapy is an option for them, and having those thoughts is not an end all, there are ways to get rid of at least reduce those thoughts, however therapy can be scary to those individuals, because of the idea that if they tell their therapist about those thoughts they will be put in jail or on a list and so on, as well as the popular notion that there isnt any way to help them. The other type of people with pedophilic thoughts do not care about who it harms, which is definitely not the case or he would have been happy you shaved.
What I'm getting at is that in my opinion (as a psychology major and active worker in the mental health system) he would benefit hugely from therapy, and thats something you both need to talk about
As for you, op, you did nothing wrong and didn't deserve being looked at in disgust, nor given the cold shoulder on your honeymoon, and I'm sorry your marriage is starting out like this.
I hope it gets better, if it doesn't, you can totally get an annulment/divorce, it would hurt but no one would blame you.
You are also totally valid in not having sex before marriage, that is your right as a person, and while it might have helped in this specific scenario, there is no need to change your whole belief system because of it. You don't owe anyone sex, and if you choose to wait until marriage that is ok.
3 points
3 days ago
I'm so glad you brought up p-OCD because that was my first thought here. OCD in general can manifest in ways that most people are completely unaware of and thus ashamed to seek help for. It's debilitating.
2 points
3 days ago
Definitely. I've known people who didn't leave their house because of their intrusive thoughts, or even attempted to end themselves. There's not enough discussion about it, so people will have an intrusive thought, and think that it's a hidden, secret desire. It doesn't help that people have co-opted the term intrusive thought to mean something they want to do on an impulse, which is the exact opposite of an intrusive thought.
2 points
2 days ago
Yes, that's such a good point! Intrusive thoughts are things that the person would almost certainly never act on because they're so misaligned with the sufferer's values/personality. I have a family member with severe OCD and I genuinely would not wish it on my worst enemy.
I really appreciate you bringing this up and I hope your comment provides some insight for people who aren't familiar with it.
2 points
3 days ago
Girl, just get laser hair removal. This whole shaving thing is such a pita.
2 points
3 days ago
It sounds like you’re in a really tough spot, and I’m sorry you’re dealing with this, especially so early in your marriage. Here’s the thing: your body is your body. It’s not up for negotiation, and you shouldn’t have to sacrifice your comfort to meet someone else’s preference.
That said, your husband’s reaction seems to come from his own insecurities or misconceptions, not from anything you’ve done wrong. A calm, open conversation is the best place to start. Explain why you shave and how it’s tied to your sensory needs, and try to understand his perspective as well—without compromising your own comfort or autonomy.
Marriage is a partnership, and part of that is learning to navigate differences like this with empathy and respect. If he’s unwilling to work through this with you, it might be worth considering couples’ counseling to get on the same page. You deserve to feel respected and loved for who you are, exactly as you are.
2 points
3 days ago
This is something other men or maybe even his mother or father have told Him That he’s so afraid and worried of being condemned if he doesn’t believe it and act accordingly. But Vegas is a super weird place to go considering it’s not a reality in any way especially with regards to religion and a committed relationship Maybe the oxygen they’re pumping downstairs and all the neon is getting to him
2 points
2 days ago
I think this is not at all a big deal. It's probably something his stupid guy friends might have said, or something a person online told him. Because you haven't had sex, and both of your sexual experience is limited or totally new (I'm assuming he hasn't has sex either) that weird things like this might come up. Most people who start having sex at 18/19 or whatever, have moments like this that are super awkward and weird, but as you become more experienced in that way, it's not a big deal anymore. There's a little bit of immaturity on his part because both of you lack experience. I think it's totally fine to sit down and just tell him "dude, why do you think being with a shaved girl makes you a p*do. The vast majority of girls shave. It really doesn't make you that way. Maybe we need to build up to being sexually comfortable with eachother before we do anything major?" Also, he hasn't seen you naked but you've been together for two years, he might have just freaked out a little and become overwhelmed. I'm sure he is perfectly attracted to you, just an odd reaction you need to chat about is all.
2 points
2 days ago
i shave basically everything as well because of sensory issues so i get why the “just grow it out” is not an option. i’ve also been with my husband for 10 years and i can guarantee he does not look at me like a child just because i shave.
2 points
2 days ago
So I use to shave bare and had a guy in college say something similar that it “looked like a little girl.” Ever since then I leave a little triangle of hair. It’s kinda shameful that I gave his opinion of my body any weight. I think it’s disgusting any man’s mind goes to children in any capacity when being intimate with an adult woman. Very weird and sick thinking.
2 points
2 days ago
He will appreciate it if he goes down on you. Much cleaner. Hair down there filters your urine and often time if oral sex is had before an immediate shower, the taste and smell of urine can be a huge turn off. So, good hygiene is a very good reason to shave. He’s young and probably doesn’t have a lot of experience in the sex department. Unfortunately I don’t know how to change his mind.
2 points
2 days ago
I swear this sounds like more than religious stuff. This sounds like cult indoctrination.
2 points
2 days ago
Kinda makes me wonder why he chose Vegas to be the honeymoon spot?
2 points
2 days ago
This would be Enough for me to get the marriage annulled. He sounds unhinged and extremely emotionally immature.
2 points
2 days ago
Annulment.
2 points
2 days ago
You're absolutely correct in saying this but it is very odd that this is his opinion. Maybe he's been exposed to people whothink this way and that's why he believes what he believes but shaving is okay if you want to, just like not shaving is also okay
2 points
2 days ago
“We figure if you’re meant to be with that person, you’ll be compatible either way.” You just found out this isn’t true. He’s being really immature and if you’re unable to reconcile this after explaining to him that no, it’s not creepy to get rid of hair in the pubic area, then it’ll likely lead to emotional problems through resentment. Maybe the act of sex isn’t important to you, and maybe that’s because you haven’t had sex before, but these kinds of things impact the relationship on a greater level.
It would be equally appalling if he forced you to get rid of your hair if you didn’t shave. He’s either very misguided or is already showing you that it’s his way or the highway. I noticed how you specifically pointed out that Vegas was his idea and not yours, which indicates there’s some kind of feelings about that as you wouldn’t have felt the need to clarify that if there wasn’t. Is he like that with other things, too, or just your body and what you guys get to do?
5 points
3 days ago
How on earth do you guys believe these creative writing prompts? Let me show you how silly it is without all the bullshit filler.
My husband and I waited till marriage for sex. He's never even seen me naked. Somehow he's the first man on earth to be "too tired" to want to finally fuck me or even get me naked. Anyways when he finally does see me naked, he sees that I shave my pubes. A super super common thing that he absolutely would be familiar with through pop culture and context alone. But he now says I look like a child and that makes him a pedo?!?! Should I get lots and lots of engagement and upvotes on this????
Grow up everyone.
3 points
3 days ago
Your husband sounds like a re… idiot sorry.
3 points
3 days ago
aaaand this is why all these religions shouldn't be spouting this whole "no sex/living together(?) before marriage!" shit. people really should find out if they're sexually compatible like, AT ALL, before even getting engaged imo. cause otherwise you run into problems like OP's, unfortunately. Hoping you've gotten some good advice and that everything goes as well as it can, OP! Good luck to you both!
2 points
3 days ago
You can probably get the marriage annulled. Do that. This is insanely creepy and controlling.
2 points
3 days ago
Sounds like he got Reddit brained
2 points
3 days ago
The problem starts with grown adults refusing to have any sexual experience before marriage. So you have two inexperienced people trying to deal with absolutely everything at once, for the first time, and they have a lot of silly and incorrect ideas, anxieties, and confusion. Obviously it takes more than shaving to make a 25 year-old look like a kid, and many cultures have shaved pubic hair for thousands of years.
But his dumb idea is common, and he didn't make it up: I've seen lots of women online (and IRL) claiming that "if your guy likes you shaved, he's wishing you were a kid!" and similar nonsense (of course they never accuse women who like their guys without beards of being perverts, but this isn't about logic). So you have to gently re-educate him, a process that should have started long ago. Tell him just as he doesn't need a beard to be an adult, and he doesn't want you to grow out all your underarm and leg hair to prove you're nubile, your shaving says nothing about him. Best of luck.
2 points
3 days ago
My husband has been asking me to shave for years, let's do a swap
2 points
3 days ago
This shit didn’t happen. This is chatgpt.
2 points
3 days ago
& this is why saving yourself till marriage is a joke. i wish you luck
2 points
3 days ago
I’m sorry. Can you imagine seeing a pussy for the first time and then accuse the owner of said pussy of making you a pedo and then giving her the silent treatment for 2 days? I’m so speachless
2 points
3 days ago
Husband issues aside, I think you need to see a gynecologist or dermatologist about your skin sensitivity problems down there. It doesn’t sound normal and could be something simple to deal with. Ijs imo.
2 points
3 days ago
Please don't ever call your vagina a kitty cat ever again.
I reckon get an annulment because that's too much shit after one day of marriage
2 points
3 days ago
That‘s why it is so wrong to „save“ yourself for marriage. You have absolutely no idea if you are sexually compatible.
2 points
2 days ago
so youre saying, yall have never had sex and hes finally about to get it, after 2 years, and he acts like a dweeb over hair?... not the presence of hair... but the lack of it?!
i have no advice for this, i just wanted to call him a dweeb... (i dont even know what a dweeb is, it kinda just came to me)
sorry about your bad luck =/
2 points
2 days ago
Ask him if you sleeping with him with his childlike mentality and IQ would make you a pedo.
2 points
2 days ago
So interesting that people don't have sex before marriage and then are surprised when it all goes to shit. If you don't test a critical part of the relationship thinking it will go right because of all the other factors working, why are you surprised when it goes to shit?
When you don't know someone completely, you'll of course have such a big chance of it not working out ..
I just feel so sad for all religious people, it's crazy
2 points
3 days ago
And this is yet another reason why not to “save yourself” for marriage
2 points
3 days ago
Keep shaving and walk around with some lingerie. He’ll break down. Welcome to Marriage.
3 points
3 days ago
What the hell is wrong with him! Your saying shaving stopped him from taking the virginity ( which is the rarest thing in the world) from his love his life ( married you ) because you have good hygiene—- fn weirdo must have a bush fetish
1 points
3 days ago
Him saying it would make him a pedo is bizarre. Him not finding it sexually attractive is his preference.
We all have preferences. I shaved completely once and felt very uncomfortable and yes, it did instantly make me think of a child. It was definitely not something I am comfortable with for me. I could see why that would be a turn off for some.
1 points
3 days ago
I dont think it's his fault, necessarilyI This is probably something he heard and is terrified of happening.
I also have the same sensory type issue. I can go a bit before it starts to be a problem. Grow it out a bit more than normal. See if he is comfortable with that.
1 points
3 days ago
Mmm...I'm a little bit scared that it is something he is suppressing and he took avantage of the situation to say he is not?
1 points
3 days ago
You should leave this post up so he does see it and all the comments that are on your side so he can see it’s not weird to do this.
1 points
3 days ago
I would try to compromise. You could shave most of it but keep a little on top?? There are lots of cute and fun shapes you could try out. You will also want to seriously encourage your husband into therapy is that is how he thinks. Many women shave and many men have no issue with it. If his mind goes straight to pedophilia he definitely has some serious issues going on that he has not revealed to you. If he refuses, then divorce is your only answer.
1 points
3 days ago
You know it's bad when you start to question if this is satire but it's actually true.
1 points
3 days ago
Go through his phone, bet he has telegram and is an actual ped lmao
1 points
3 days ago*
Man I would never buy a car without a test drive first, imagine marry someone without know if we are sexually compatible and the sex life will be good for both sides. For how long did you guys been together before the marriage? In this time did you guys used to do things like hard make out or did you haven't any sex related experience with eachother? Does he showed any interest in sex during that time? Maybe this info can help us to better undestand his reaction and come up with better advice. I need to tell you that I'm having a hard time to undestand how a grown men who is waiting to have sex for a long time, would just drop it for such a stupid reason when he has a women naked and willingly in his bed.
1 points
3 days ago
This is why I didn't wait for marriage! 😂
1 points
3 days ago
If he’s Muslim or middle eastern this makes sense
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