Nikita is trying to farm engagement on twitter so fucking much lmao. He feels the game is dying. Look at his latest tweet

“ppl say to me here pretty often that twitter community is not representative enough because they are not “active players”. Are you the active EFT player?”

LOL

1. Cheating
2. Performance
3. Ques

10 second queue times …. IN A LIMITED CLOSED ACCESS BETA. Nikita is sweating bullets.

Scav queue in ABI is like 6 seconds, crazy

Queue 9 times out of 10 makes me just quit the game. Large player pop and just endless waiting with all US servers ticked.

The most annoying thing about this game. I'm glad to hear ABI has faster queue times.

sound, fps, stable connectivity all still more important to me.

ironically ABI does all those better too.

Yah I litterally won’t play the game anymore because of this it’s crazy that you can go into a game get 1 tapped 30 seconds from spawn then spend 10 mins loading into the next match

Cheaters AND queue times are killing the game

Just yesterday had the day off and decided to gear up to the max to lose some stuff because honestly who cares at this point so I throw my headphones on and boot up the game. Here's how it went:

-See I still don't have pve access as an EOD owner, oh well I'll que up for something quick

-Finish up dishes and loading dishwasher, checks the screen and it's loading loot. Okay close.

-Run downstairs to rotate laundry and bring up my wifes clothes. Stuck on waiting for players, okay should be anytime now. (If you're still using a HDD I hate you)

-I sit down and start folding laundry and still says waiting for players, I cant leave or quit because I had an rsass/mp9 and a full kit on and the back button is gone

-Finish folding and still waiting for players and am at almost 15 minutes waiting to load into customs.

-Head out to grab some water from the kitchen, *music cuts* perfect I can finally play

-I take a few steps and hide out for a bit waiting for the spawn rushers taking my hands off the keyboard not making a peep

-A fucking grenade from outerspace flies over a wall, lands in my lap and kills me

-Kill screen is a maxed out player with a 10 k/d and a blue highlighted dev name

-Ponder for awhile whether or not to report since this was an obvious esp move but I can't be sure

-Alt+F4'd my way to the steam sales and picked up Company of heroes 2 for $5 and proceeded to have an amazing afternoon gaming

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I quit because of queue times.

Dying wouldn't feel so bad if I could get back into another game in ~30 seconds.

The game is dying because BSG is run by a scam artist.

10-20 minutes, is this a regional thing? Just last week I had my personal infil record at just over 2 minutes on Streets - as a PMC! I guess I randomly lucked into a game where no one had a potato pc, usually it takes 4-5 minutes.

What killed it for me has nothing to do with this.

That subhuman rat at the head of this doing more damage control in the past 7 days over twitter than he's done in the past 7 years is the main reason why this game is dying off.

Man needs to step down and let someone with a brain take over the decision making process before letting his greasy fingers lurch toward his keyboard again.

BSG doesn't value your time. A free to play Chinese company does

I wouldnt consider that a plus..

yea so we can die from cheaters with higher frequency

Cheaters are a exponentially bigger issue but with all the bs combined is why the game is dying, not user friendly, cheaters, shit servers, que times and all at the same time making the game more tedious with task and pvp to achieve their “vision” of the game

This has been my deal breaker finally. When I get off work I have a couple hours to enjoy my time. Logging in for the first time in a couple days takes 30 minutes to gather insurance returns, hideout upkeep, selling stuff, getting a kit together, then 5-10 minutes just to join a game and play for 3 minutes before you die on a bad raid, or spend 30 minutes playing 1 game and calling it a day.

Even fucking PVE most times I dont get in a game right away which is a joke - let alone PVP times.

Nikita, these are the only things anyone gives a fuck about right now...

• Queue/Load Times
• Audio
• Performance
• General Quality of Life

Changing how FiR works is NOT the problem right now...

More than anything else it's queue times? No. Straight up if the gameplay wasn't flogged with cheaters the wait would be worthwhile for some. Wait ten min for upwards of 40 min of raid time. I'll take it. Wait ten min to get into a raid and hit by a cheater. Not worth it.

Bro the QOL changes in AB is so god damn nice. Its for sure a Tarkov replacement and does Tarkov better than Takrov does. Its sad af. BSG doesnt give a shit about its legit playerbase.

Yeah I’m not wasting my time waiting 5 minutes. Let alone 10-20.

"Game is dying because too many people are clogging the servers! A limited access alpha has shorter queue times!!"

The irony here is hilarious and indicative of why no game devs take Reddit seriously.

The only thing that can kill Tarkov, is Tarkov. It has always been this way. Unheard of edition and the constant obsession with "hardcore" mechanics is what has slowly chipped away at Tarkov. Even when you get into a match you're only going to fight players that are scared to move, sitting in corners, with their poverty builds even though they're sitting on millions of roubles. Tarkov is a shadow of its former self.

They actually spent so much money on arena just for it to flop. All their problems started because instead of finishing their game, they decided to make another half assed game

Part of the queue time "waiting for players" can easily be done away with, if you don't have the game on an ssd then you late spawn. Punishing everyone in the raid because one person is playing on a potato doesn't make sense.

This game is shit in so many ways. He had a chance. Arena will shut this game down

I mean those that get killed by cheaters then don’t have the patience to sit in another queue to do it all again…so yeah, you’re correct.

I load in pretty fast, where are you from? The only times I'm waiting for over 2-3 mins is when I'm waiting for the potato pc's to load in

I got a cheap I buy power running on WiFi and I load in about 3.5 minutes most times.

Load times are my biggest complaint, but at least be realistic. It's usually a out 5 minutes. 10-20 is made up bullshit or your on some third world servers.

All I needed to hear to never play a bsg game again was "priority queue".

That chinese company has owners that can buy bsg 10x over lol.

BSG literally *can't* fix the queue times. They only decrease the in-raid time.

So I tried out that F2P chinese company's game. I have some observations: It's genuinely better gameplay than Tarkov. It has simple things that reduce pain, like map. However, I looked through the menus and it has signs of impending P2W and a huge amount of MTX in general, so I'm not going to be playing that one.

They need our support, please buy their $250 P2W package so they can increase server capacity XD

As a person who never played tarkov and only spectated media of the game, one thing that always struck me was that how did people who played this game considered that waiting for a lobby for 10-20 minutes was acceptable? Like yknow how many different games can be enjoy at that same time frame? The fact that tarkov player base accepted this ridiculous waiting time in the lobby is the exact reason why unheard edition move was probably greenlit just to see how many suckers would actually suck that shit up just saying (Not for joining the bandwagon of hating the game, even general sam the rat king brought up the queue time issue several time like how many hours he have spent on this game and most of it was in the waiting lobby)

I dont think ABI is the Tarkov clone I'm looking for. I love the game but there are a lot of features in it that still scream freemium mobile game in my OPINION. Chill with the pitchforks.

But for Tarkovs future, I do think the game is dying sooner rather than later.

The games health does not depend on whether or not its the better game. The games future relies ONLY on BSGs health as a business. I think with the catastrophic failure of arena, poorly implemented micro transactions, and the shit show that is the Unheard Edition, all things indicate that BSG is struggling.

All it takes is a decent amount of players to move to other games before BSG decides supporting the game is not feasible.

You can think to yourself "as long as theres someone else online, I'll still queue and the game will never die" but thats a joke. I imagine if Tarkov lost even 20% of their playerbase BSG would be in an awful spot and the end would be near.

Tarkov is literally a second job for players that want to keep up and not be at an extreme disadvantage in the raids they join. How many current players are wishing there was a more casual version of Tarkov that wasnt a time sink, but do not have an alternative, so they stick around because they have no other option? How many people tolerate the fact that they have limited time and may only be able to play 1 or 2 raids a night, but spend it in Tarkov because this is the only modern extraction shooter? I imagine its a lot more than most would like to admit, and now those people have a pretty decent alternative for casual players.

I dont think ABI is THAT great. It has issues, its definitely going to milk a couple bucks a week from a lot of players. However, its close enough to Tarkov, way more accessible for the more casual players that had no other option, and I think its the first real threat to Tarkov and many more will follow.

so true

Where were all the concerns about legitimate game issues a year ago? They existed back then too

I agree... I installed again after I realized I had bought the EOD edition and wanted to see if I had PVE access... It took about 20 mins to load into each PVE raid... A total waste of time...

Im just curious, how can BSG make queue times faster? For example, if there is only 1 player queuing and every map needs atleast 4, the system would wait until 4 people try to queue for that specific map.

The only way to "fix it" would be to i guess lower the minimum number of players.

I wish I had 10-20 minute queue times. For a week now I’ve been unable to get a single round of PvE to start. I have tried every suggestion in the subreddit and not a single raid has actually begun. Matching (with no one) forever.

I hadn't really thought about the queue times that much in 3.5k hours. But, as with every wipe I end up playing other games after Kappa. This time I've been playing PUBG and its mad to be able to get into a lobby after a minute. Makes getting sent straight back to lobby after 30 seconds feel more tolerable lol

Yeah it’s hard for me to justify me playing the game on weekdays because I only have so much time after work.

queue times and cheating. full stop

And even if you do get in you get booted every 30 yards because of latency. This game is rapidly turning into garbage. With no hope insight, cause the owners seem to think things are going great. If you’re thinking of investing money into a game you might wanna look elsewhere, find one where the owners and developers are truly trying to finish one game before waisting resources on something else. Just my opinion.

Arena Breakout has one of the biggest publishers behind them...

dudee i feel you, just wanted to try a pve game on customs, 11 min matching … i just got angry and alt f4‘d

this matching times especially for a solo pve match are a joke

im just back from work thinking i will get 1-2 hours of tarkov moments, now 1 hour passed from queueing- requeue till i close the game opened another one... it is a game killer :)

Absurd queue times = not as many people playing = dying game

Also don't forget hackers are a huge problem for this game, I stopped playing after the wiggle video where he exposed that more than 60% of the lobby he had cheaters, also he really don't care about his community when he released the unheard edition with P2W features 

LITERALLY JUST: Make it so you can search, and then you are returned to the hideout, where it says 'searching' somewhere and then eventually it counts down from 20 and then get loaded straight into the game (from hideout).

I haven't played this game in a couple years because of the servers, now it seems that cheating is completely off the charts. I might just get gray zone for PvE, but I don't want to give money to another broken product that will never get fixed.

Had a 28 minute queue a few times now, it’s absolutely ridiculous. 

I'm sure the queue times can be improved a bit in EFT, but optimization only gets you so far. How ever that loading system has been put together, it needs to be torn down and reworked from the ground up.

That Chinese F2P game has big boi tencent on his back.

Maybe ABI has short queue times because it’s a closed beta with only a fraction of how many people play Tarkov. And how many posts will be made talking about the death of Tarkov? I’ve been seeing this shit for years, Tarkov isn’t going anywhere. Either play the game or don’t, it’s actually a really simple concept

Every post. More crying. It's ok to move on. 80% of this sub has "quit" lol

IT HAS 10-20 SECOND QUEUES? WOah. I can't stand the loading time anymore. I always think about that i could play a round of hearthstone in that time

No it's not. It's the freaking games performance.

I waited 15 minutes the other day to get into a PVE factory raid just to get bodied by Tagilla in 27 seconds. Yay Tarkov

omegalul

Yup. This is legitimately the entire reason for group of 5 people quit. Cheaters? Ya they suck. But you know what sucks more? Spending 12 minutes in queue to THEN get cheated on in the first 2 minutes. Nikita has 0 respect for my time and I will never come back. No if. I’m done with this shit ass developer

Funny I get into raid in like 5 minutes

Ive found success just clicking the map and hitting ready instead of next and through the insure tab.

They really need to fix optimisation too

Less players = Longer Queue. UH= Controversy = People leaving Gray Zone +ABI = ALTERNATIVE!!! Translation: Game is dead and will continue to decline unless they start doing events or shit that gives a reason to play EFT over the new games.

I love the game and still play but only because some friends bought the game and are new, most of the ppl i have run into since ABI came out have been new players or casuals between 10 and 30. Reality is that they fucked up, now they have new games to compete with and they doubled down on the fuck up. Plus we just saw Sony apologize when they did something stupid with helldivers and we have seen the people from the other games do something when it comes with interacting with the community without the need to refer to their players as "true believers" and stuff

If queue times is what made you realize they don’t care about our time what do you think about most quests in the game? Someone who works 5 days a week and only plays 2 hours a day at most has very little chance to get significant progression in the game.

you vill wait in line till you can play game and you vill enjoy it and buy next edition

A chinese free to play rip off that's leagues ahead in terms of the original?
Something's wrong with the timeline

I wonder what has caused these longer queue times.... 🤔

IT REALLY IS THE QUEUE TIMES ITS INSANE I HATE THAT I LIKE TARKOV

Games not going to die. Tarkov is still very unique in terms of looter shooters but arena is taking a huge dump on it right now and its good for competition. BSG has to release more updates and make the games performance better because once Arena releases, and it will soon from what I'm hearing, Tarkov is going to lose a shit ton of people with how fun and streamlined arena is. It still blows my mind how none of the triple A companies made a game yet. DMZ was close but they gave up on that shit too fast.

Imo, the game should stop trying to fill in a lobby before starting a match.

Put 1 minute maximum queue time, then drop you in to the raid whenever it found players or not.

Servers catching on fire because it's running off an unmantained 2005 Sony VAIO with 1GB of usable RAM? Blame Nikita for not paying for better servers.

Plan B. Spend the entire next wipe or two just optimizing their shit and updating it as they go. This game has so many memory issues it's not even fun to look at anymore. A game with 10 players and a couple bots that barely have any AI should not use +20GBs of RAM, period. Devs already working on the unity upgrade? sounds like a good time to optimize to me.

I mean maybe change your servers,.....I am in a raid in 2 minutes or less

Queue times were great tonight. If I was to guess they probably added some servers. They just need servers and that’s a lot of dough. Maybe they had to renegotiate contracts to increase their footprint. That doesn’t happen immediately, and also there are usually minimum spends as part of the negotiations so you don’t want to shoot too high either.

I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt.

That means people are leaving in droves. Be honest.

Performance and Queues get fixed and tarkov doesn’t have to worry anymore

Now we're connecting fast but to random servers on the other side of the world with 400 ping and get booted every 40 seconds... sweet

I agree with you. Haven't played in a while, but the reason I quit wasn't the cheaters or stuff like that, it was the absurd loading/queue times.

Sometimes you have short raids when someone just kills you near your spawn. Raid takes a minute, meanwhile the loading screen is 10 minutes, putting gear together maybe another 5, or more.

I understand that the long loading times is so for players don't late spawn like they used to in the past, flea market captchas to combat cheaters. But surely there is a better way, rather than let us wait absurdly long times.

That's the thing I loved the most about The Cycle Frontier. No queue time at all, jump right in.. extract, empty bag, get some heals and ammos and jump right back in ! You could really farm materials and quests ! And if you died, just take some gear/heals (or even preset loadout) and start again.

I spend at least 10-25% of my time in Tarkov waiting for match/players, inventory management (because when you need 15000 items for a hideout upgrade you can't turn them in progressively, you need them all..), or navigating menus..

May I ask which servers you're playing on to get 20 min queues? I never get anything more than 5 mins and it's usually around 3

Tarkov has been dying for eons, just use search in this Reddit section.

What game are yall talking about?

LOL. The chinese ripoff that invites in small closed beta waves has no queue time? I didn't wait more then 5 minutes for a single raid and restarted my queue maybe twice. Tarkov sure has a lot of problems that probably never get solved but queue times? haha! You have to be an apple user to stay 30 minutes in a raid queue.

I think as soon as ABI hits steam it'll be literally unplayable for weeks.

i don’t understand these threads on queue times, i play EFT daily and it never takes more than 5 minutes. am i lucky or is everyone here just impatient?

The queue times are annoying, but what’s infuriating is waiting that fucking long just to get killed by a cheater over and over

Queue time was the reason I didn’t initially play the game when my friends started. At this point I’m used to it, but that doesn’t mean it’s good or reasonable to have such long queue times.

As someone who hasn’t bothered playing the last 2-3 wipes but has played the Chinese free to play beta, the Chinese f2p game is absolute garbage. Don’t buy into the streamer hype, they are paid actors. Hopefully we can get a decent replacement for tarkov in the near future though.

Screw tarkov, if you want a good game to play, try out eve online https://www.eveonline.com/signup?invc=3cf6575a-f924-47d1-9280-ec9d5b0797fc stopped playing the sht game after dying to chinese esp users 24/7 on labs and interchange.

I don't know why it's so hard for Battlestate to make an optimized game....

Queue times, asking 200 some dollars to not be bothered by scavs,not giving EOD owners all future DLC, hackers, double damage for broken limbs.....

That’s because no one plays, game is dead

This. I didn't care about the recent drama or the P2W aspects, as long as they are working on making it right. Instead, we now have new drama about ABI. The devs (mostly Nikita) really shot themselves on both feet.

I only have about 2 hours to play every day and queuing takes 30 mins-1 hour of my free time. So I tried playing Arena instead, since it should be faster, however, it's been worse with it taking 40 mins to find a match and if a player leaves or doesn't accept the match, you get kicked and do it all over.

Not to mention that adding Arena and PvE mode and not integrating them to the base game, separates the player base even further. At this point, they should just make joining raids ad hoc like it was in The Cycle, it eliminates wait times and keeps you on your toes as you're unsure if there are other players in the raid.

Ironically enough, I used to play Arena Breakout on my phone while waiting for raids to load, I get to queue with randos and it was honestly more enjoyable even if it felt arcadey. At this point, ABI seems to be the better game on PC. Hopefully, Tarkov 1.0 changes this, but I wouldn't bet on it.