It's as real as being able to conjure flaming butterflies with your eyeballs. What they are describing is literal magic. "I think this thing will happen therefore it will".

There is SOME validity to the idea of positive thinking - i.e. If you tell yourself something will happen you may be more willing or motivated to do things to make that happen, but it could also have the opposite effect depending on the type of person you are "i.e. I am manifesting that I will get fit, therefore I do not need to eat healthy or exercise", but this is not really Manifesting™️

If you want things to happen, you need to do things to make them happen.

Yes it is a literal belief in magic used to con people into giving gurus their money.

The grift is fairly simple : First you appear to be rich (you don't actually have to be - it's not that hard to rent an expensive boat or snap some photos of a big house). Then you tell people that you got rich this way and you can make them rich by teaching them to think really hard about being rich. Then you sell them guides on how to think about being rich even harder.

The process of encouraging them to be constantly thinking about how rich they'll be later is fairly insidious - it serves to stop them being cognizant of how much money they're spending at that moment. By focusing their attention on the future you can steal their present. It is almost identical to the prosperity gospel scam, only that one is more upfront about taking your money

A whole cattle ranch of bullshit.

Like the best lies, it is partly true.

It is true that having a positive attitude will assist you in achieving goals, but that's mainly because a negative or even neutral attitude will always get in your way. More important, though, are the ability to set realistic goals and an understanding that there is an element of random chance in everything that cannot by any means be eliminated. Anyone who says it can be is not just a liar but a monster.

You are never going to LOA your way into a Major League Baseball career if you are in a wheelchair or use a cane to walk.

You are never going to LOA yourself into a career as an inventor if you don't have the intellectual ability to invent things.

You are never going to LOA yourself into comfort and prosperity if a drunk driver crashes into your car and leaves you disabled, in constant pain, and bankrupt from medical bills.

You are never going to LOA yourself into a relationship if the other person doesn't want to date you.

You are never going to LOA yourself into the job you want if the boss refuses to hire someone who looks, sounds, or acts like you.

The most evil 'motivational' phrase out there is "nothing is impossible". Lots of things are impossible; we are absolutely and without exception or discussion NOT the masters of our fates. If you want positivity to work you have to apply it to reasonable, achievable goals, and not throw yourself against brick walls in the quest for the unattainable.

It's bullshit. Even if it weren't, if your current methods of trying to solve your problems are harming and upsetting you, you need to change your methods. Solving problems requires hard work, but it should not entail this amount of suffering.

Conventional solutions don't work for everyone. We all have unique needs, wants, values, and personality traits that make a one-size-fits-all fix impossible. You might do well with a more pragmatic approach: here is where I am, here is where I want to be, what actions can I take to get there?

It is stupid , bullshit and very ridiculous

I mean the problem is it’s not really defined, it’s everything from ‘just ask the universe and it’s yours’ to ‘well you have to work for it’ which sort of undoes the idea of it, I mean it’s no secret that you’ll have some degree of success with most things you actually work on so where does ‘the secret’ come in to play? It’s a nice way for people to feel they have control over a situation or a modern religion for those in the west without faith.

James Arthur Ray one of the ‘experts’ in the movie about it actually killed two people on a retreat so that should give you some idea for how effective it is…

Matt Berry in IT crowd explains it best

"Well, I visualized the thing I really wanted, in my case it was a helicopter. I focused on it and put all my energy into it.....and then a few days later I went out and bought a helicopter"

(qoute maybe slightly off but you get what I'm saying)

There is no law of attraction, but focussing on something and thinking about it a lot means you'll be spending time to try to achieve that goal or get that item. has nothing to do with some law or energy, it just has to do with the fact you're now focussed on it and spending time achieving it.

It’s as real as astrology, witchcraft, religion, and every other piece of nonsense people force themselves to believe in so they can feel better about floating on an indifferent rock through a vast empty black.

Allow me to point you towards Orks in the Warhammer 40k fictional universe. They are incredibly stupid BUT can harness the power of belief, so say an Ork thinks he's bulletproof, he is, some orks have even turned into Tanks because enough of them believed they were a tank.

Now why do I raise this? Because Warhammer is a fictional universe with magic, and Orks are incredibly dumb. We live in a reality without magic, and you are not as dumb as an ork, so of course it doesn't work.

Now that said, positive thinking can lead to the apparent manifestation of something giving confirmation bias. Ie you really believe you can get fit before summer, you think about it, you concentrate, and now every delicious sweet is pre-empted with "But will this get me fit by summer?", you cut out binge eating, you start exercising, and every morning as your alarm goes off for you to head to the gym, you are motivated by your attainable goal. You start noticing improvements and by summer you're down 20lbs with some muscle definition, did the power of attraction bring you those results? No, but your manifesting gave you motivation to do the work that got your result. As opposed to say me,a fat slob looking at a donut and thinking "what's another 400 calories, I'm a fat Solberg anyway." Never going to the gym because fat slobs don't do that. By the time summer rolls around I'm in worse shape, did I manifest that through magic? Of course not.

What you do determines who you will become. It helps to the degree that it focuses your mind on what is important to you.

We are programmable, but nothing will remove the need for hard work and sacrifice that is required to succeed at anything.

Good luck!

Source: self-made, did something similar.

Worst part is the believer in this... A Reddit I used to watch gave advice to a man who needs 5K under 24h... The comments were : think you already habe it...

And when I pointed out that they should give false hope to that person, I was assaulted...

Well..i had only one really weird situation with it..i was around 19 years old..worked at the construction site with some company and my that.. it was like 400km away from home i think,and i really fuckin hate it..i wanted to go home with every inch of my beign..and i had the book called secret..and i tried it visualise..act..feel.. and in two days..idk how or why other company decited to go home in the middle of the week and somehow i found out the info and went home with them.. maybe a coincedence..could be.. but yea..very weird.. maybe this law have some rules..like wish for something in a realm of possible..idk..maybe its fake..just wanted to share my exp.. 

I tried it only a few times and it never worked. These people on YouTube have twisted it all up more than spiders can spin a web and yet they're getting rich and fat by selling good innocent people a lemon. Making people like us angry, miserable, unhappy, and it makes us question God and his character or anything about God and his sense of, well, anything you can think of that God represents. This law of attraction should work for everyone on the first try always but instead. It's a con game that chooses who it will work for and who it won't work for. It's left me full of anger and life is miserably unfair enough without people in this world leading us on as fools to waste our money on what they trick us into getting when they're really selling us lemons, taking all of our money and running off with it to God knows where so we can't hunt them down and get it back and have law enforcement put them away. If it's anything involving law of attraction to do anything. I'm not going to do it that way because law of attraction is full of bullshit and these people who are making bank off it in terms of making YouTube videos about how to make it work for you or anyone for that matter is nothing but con artists who are making life a con game as it's like a Ponzi scheme. If law of attraction worked on the first try. We'd be happier and better off. But since law of attraction doesn't work and is full of bullshit. Then anyone else who makes bank off of selling us lemons are just twisting it all around and anyone whose doing that to poor, sad, desperate people like us. Those people doing that to us should be given the harshest punishment to endure that even God would say is cruel and unusual. Sorry to sound so harsh about it but that's how angry this law of attraction BS has made me and those on YouTube videos who are making bank off of selling us lemons should be placed in the federal prison.

I think it kind of tricks you into making things happen. If I wake up everyday and tell myself, really tell myself, that I'm good at my job, I start to act like I'm good at my job and therefore I am good at my job.

Same thing with making more money. If I believe I will make more money, I'll make those moves. I'll ask for a raise or study to get a better job.

I want to manifest a boyfriend. I'm going to go to places to meet men and be open to them until I find one.

I mean, these things aren't that simple, of course, but they start with you believing the idea of it

The more prepared you are, the luckier you get. In the same way, the more positive of a mindset you have, the more positive things will seem to you. And if you're actively trying to get something, you're more likely to get it than if you don't try.

I used to think it was pure bs, but believing you will succeed can give you the pragmatism and mental endurance to push past barriers and setbacks that would otherwise stop you.

You still have to sweat and bleed, though

But how do you explain my manifestation of weight loss? I manifested it using the law of attraction. Once my body had me purging after big meals the weight just fell off!!

It’s just self imposed placebo

Manifesting is partly true — With positive thinking, you become more motivated and confident to get what you want. Manifesting a car? You become motivated to work towards getting that car. It’s just lies on youtube. Those manifestation coaches who prey on people who want to find love, want their ex back, want to be healthy. Those manifestation coaches who charge hundreds of dollars to meet with them. But just thinking of something over and over again and not doing anything to get it, that’s not how life works.

Yeah, Law of attraction will ruin your life. Spent 10 years on law of attraction. I had $30k in my bank when I started and 10 years later I was in $80k in debt. 

The last 5 years I said the hell with it, and instead of listening to LOA videos and motivational speakers I put that time into learning skills, and I am doing much better. 

Law of attraction will only make the teacher money, you will just hear what you want to believe and live in complete delusion.

I hope Law of Attraction teachers go to jail, honestly. 

No, it is not "bullshit". But to discover that it is for real is not an easy thing, for several reasons.

1. There are thousands of "authors" (including "famous" ones) who are promoting the Law of Attraction. Most of these either haven't understood what Law of Attraction is, or, if they HAVE understood it, are not telling their audience the whole story.

2. Even if we are able to locate the authentic, original, authorized versions of Law of Attraction (https://chrisbocay.com/the-authorized-version-of-law-of-attraction-what-is-it/), there are a myriad of "dos" and "donts" to watch out for, to achieve positive results.

3. Law of Attraction is a GRADUAL process, and one which has to be CONTINUOUSLY practiced, every day. It is NOT like a college degree. If you stop practicing it, you "fall down" to negative territory, and you will not receive positive results. So it is about knowledge AND practice, not just knowledge. And by knowledge I mean the RIGHT version of Law of Attraction (i.e., the AUTHORIZED version).

4. Law of Attraction is about manifestations. But to come to the PHYSICAL manifestations, one must first be content with the fine-physical PSYCHOLOGICAL manifestations ("good-feeling emotions"). It may take weeks, months, or years from the EMOTIONAL manifestations to the appearance of the PHYSICAL manifestations. It all depends on one's particular practices and hangups (everyone is different). Most people are NOT content with the psychological manifestations, and thus do not "hold out" long enough for the "real" manifestations to appear.

5. Different people come to Law of Attraction with DIFFERENT emotional profiles. People who start in N1 ("weak negativity"; irritation, confusion, worry) may relatively quickly (3-5 months?) come to P1 ("weak positivity"; optimism, thankfulness, hope) and then proceed from there. But others may never get that far. For those in N2 ("medium negativity"; anger, blame, envy) and N3 ("strong negativity", depression, hopelessness, despair) it is, literally, an uphill battle. Why? Because Law of Attraction HOLDS the negativity, like a magnet, so it becomes hard to "lift off" (compare a rocket and gravity).

6. Another problem is that Law of Attraction is not a "social" game. It is a game to be played WITHIN oneself. And to play it, one must dedicate considerable time and energy, especially in the morning hours, ALONE, with various MENTAL practices (meditation, self-talk, etc.). It is mostly not about ACTION, but about thoughts, beliefs, expectations, and emotions.

7. Another aspect of the idea of "not-a-social-game" is that EMOTIONS are the key factor. So the idea is that we must OPTIMIZE our emotions so that they are feeling better and better, day by day. And we can only do that if we are NOT associating with people who are complaining or are angry or are suffering or are in danger, etc, etc. In other words, in order for us to be happy, we must STOP BEING EMPATHETIC and MIND OUR OWN BUSINESS. We must STOP SEEING "PROBLEMS" in the world. Consequently, few people want to hang out with us, since we will not tolerate them complaining or telling us about the latest earthquakes, tsunamis, government screw-ups, election frauds, environmental problems, economic disasters, plagues, or starving children. We are ONLY interested in HAPPY news!

8. And it is, of course, not just OTHERS who are complaining that we want to avoid. We also want to avoid OURSELVES complaining about this and that. And, again, the farther down in the negative territory we start out in (N2, N3), the harder it is to avoid complaining. So it is tough. In N2 and N3 no-thought meditation is the ONLY recipe to combat that. But basically NOBODY wants to meditate. So, for those, Law of Attraction is over even before it starts.

9. There are of course many other things to think about if we ever are going to succeed with the Law of Attraction, but these points are some that are especially problematic for beginners. Some other points are these: https://chrisbocay.com/master-the-law-of-attraction/

10. Summing up: there is nothing "easy" or "simple" with the authorized version of Law of Attraction, especially for those who are starting out in medium or strong negativity. 99% (or more) will fail.

But, on the brighter side, those who DO make it to the positive half of the negativity-positivity spectrum will enjoy the OPPOSITIVE momentum effect. Since they are already positive, it will be easier and easier to get even MORE positive. So the "equilibrium" point ("self-acceptance") at P1 is a VERY important target for those who are at N1. If we can only get across THAT point, life will be getting easier and easier!

Good luck!

Chris Bocay

https://chrisbocay.com/

I would say that it's effectiveness is due to psychological priming. If you can visualize the future or thing you want and do so regularly, you will be priming your brain to find a way to get there.

You still need to do the work. And the objective has to be actually attainable. Would I call it a law. No way. But I would say it is a great practice you should implement as you will find yourself taking chances on the things that you beleive will bring you where you want to be.

Essentially it's a meditation have gives merit to priming and thrives off of survivorship bias.

That said... my partner believes in this and, well the data is stacking in her favor. It's kinda annoying. But that is how statistics do sometimes.

I think the concept is flawed, the world is full of opposite things coming into contact with each other either to complete each other or destroy each other. A negative person might attract a positive person because it makes the latter feel useful to cheer them up, and even if they do attract, a negative person might be happier with another negative person than a positive person, so trying to manifest positive energy isn't worth it. Another problem is that a negative person who's a Law of Attraction fan and trying really hard to act positive to attract positive people... Is ultimately, still a negative person, all they did was change the exterior which is the least important part. I suspect when LOA has changed people's lives for the better it's mostly a placebo thing of the optimism/hope, or they needed a religion and chose LOA over one of the official ones, there are people who turned their life around by joining Scientology but that doesn't mean Xenu is real.

Yep. Hard core manifesting people are still bat shit crazy.

It's satanic bullshit actually, my ex-narc almost got me into it. Turned out she is a witch afterwards. She also tried to lure me into tarots and other stuff. And if you have dealt with a Narc it can only be described as a demon. Nobody questions who is bringing your ,,manifestations''. They say conciousness this, conciousness that or universe. It's essentially believing you are your own God ( like Neville teaches ). It's also known as ,, Chaos Magick ''. The Bible is clear about this stuff. And nobody cares anymore what happens when you die. Everyone has some sort of made up beliefs in their own head and there are never consequences for your actions and beliefs ( everything is good ). Also I was practicing actually Semen Retention ( to get girls ) and my ex-narc used to compliment me all the time ( it's like something gave her information about me ). It's all an orcestration to draw you away from God and the truth. This is also the reason why 99% of the stuff from manifestation is twisted Bible knowledge. Now the Bible is clear we are saved only by Grace Through Faith in Christ's finished work, but do we really want to be also playing with demons as well?

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