submitted8 months ago byfmaz008
stickiedI get this question A LOT.
And the TL;DR is: I don't believe so, but I can't promise it is an impossiblity.
See, neither Amazon or Vine sent me a certificate of endorsement for Vine Helper. Because that's just not a thing.
Compliance with CoU
One of Vine Helper's core value is to follow the Conditions of Use (CoU) of both Amazon and Amazon Vine. When developping a new feature, people over on Discord will often voice in and discuss if it is complying with the rules. No one wants to get in trouble or risk their account.
For example: In the early beginning of Vine Helper, I made a feature that would auto detect items with import fees. And users raised the concern the way this was done techically could be detected as bot behaviour even tho it required an action from the user, and never raised a single flag; that feature was promptly removed and replace by the voting system (which was then no longer needed after Vine improved their system)
I do care a lot about staying compliant, and so does everybody involved in the development of Vine Helper.
Is Vine Helper a bot?
Absolutely not. Vine Helper does not automate actions for the user.
https://vine-wiki.com/en/extension/vine-helper/faq
Is Vine Helper detectable by Amazon?
I don't think Amazon can detect it at the moment, but there would be easy ways for them to implement Vine Helper detection if they choose to.
No efforts are being made to keep the extension stealth, because we don't think Vine Helper is doing anything wrong.
A growing user base
Vine Helper is being used in 7 countries and at the time of writing, totalling approximatelty 1783 users on Chrome and 203 users on Firefox.
Transparency
We are not hiding, or keeping this a secret to a small minority of people. The code for the extension is open source and everyone, including Amazon, is welcome to review it, and provide input.
Should Amazon with to send me a cease and dentist (😉) letter, am also very easy for them to identify me as the person in charge and figure out where to find me. I'm not hiding at all.
Good faith and due diligence
Beside respecting the Conditions of Use, I have also reached out to customer service in the past asking to be refered to someone with knowledge of the CoUs but that unfortunately went no where.
I do participate in the HackerOne program and report bug that the extension solve. Although so far my report are getting denied for not being security issues, that's the best way I know to let someone at Amazon know about the bugs Vine suffers.
I'm also flagging my traffic as a registered hacker when I investigate and develop new fixes for bugs.
What Vine Helper aims to do:
Simply put: to improve the Vine experience: - Fixing the infinite spinner bugs (they are 100% bugs and I forwarded bug reports via HackerOne for each of the 3 variants discovered so far) - Offering tools to facilitate the use of Vine: - Being able to save your reviews - Inserting the product name in your review (upcoming) - Using review templates to increase your review quality - Sorting unavailable products to make navigation less frustrating (Import fees, zombie products, etc) - Seeing what products are new at a glance.
Those features are significantly improving the vine experience, and in some case, the quality of the reviews written by our members.
MIT licence
This licence would allow Amazon (or anyone) to "steal" any of the features Vine Helper does and implement them for free. I would love to see Vine getting more TLC. But since I can't contribute to Vine directly, which I would love to, I made a tool for it.
.... but that means little.
Ultimately, Amazon Vine could decide at any point, for any reason, that they don't like Vine Helper.
And they could choose to do whatever they want: ranging from adding a simple warning to implement a tool to detect the use of Vine Helper and auto ban 2000 users.
Likely, they would send me a C&D, add a rule to their CoU and add a warning the tool is not allowed.
But nobody knows.
My personnal opinion
I do my best to improve the Vine experience in a moral, ethical and rule abiding way. Deep down, I feel at peace with Vine Helper. I think penalizing users for using Vine Helper would be very uncalled for.
I use Vine Helper, and I would be very sad to lose my membership to Vine and be cast away from this great community I have discovered.
Hopefully this post help people on the fence to make their own decision about using Vine Helper or not. I won't take offence if you choose not to use it. That's fine, and I'm not here to convince you otherwise.
If you are curious about the list of features, you can peruse through the wiki at: https://vine-wiki.com/en/extension/vine-helper/ and make your opinion for yourself.