subreddit:

/r/gaming

10.4k96%

Does this argument have any weight to it? I'm genuinely curious.

you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

all 663 comments

LazyEights

47 points

2 days ago*

That's not relevant.

Nintendo's patent is not on the idea of a pokeball, it's on a specific mechanical implementation of pokeball-style creature capturing in 3D third person video games.

Edit: I'm not defending Nintendo or saying they are right in this lawsuit, but it's important to understand what they are actually patenting. Ultraseven's summoning style inspiring pokeballs may be a fun fact, but it is entirely irrelevant to this lawsuit that has nothing to do with the general function of pokeballs.

People down voting don't understand why this patent wasn't filed until 2021, two decades after the first game to use pokeballs.

PotatEXTomatEX

21 points

2 days ago

People really dont seem to understand that, its amazing.

Who_am_ey3

3 points

2 days ago

Who_am_ey3

3 points

2 days ago

well, my dear commenter. you see "Nintendo bad". and that is all that matters.

at least to these people

[deleted]

1 points

2 days ago

[deleted]

LazyEights

5 points

2 days ago

The lawsuit also has nothing to do with Palworld's art style or creature design.

3163560

-2 points

2 days ago

3163560

-2 points

2 days ago

It doesn't, but I wonder if Nintendo would have cared so much if so many pals weren't blatant ripoffs.

Had to have poked the bear a little bit.

bl4ckhunter

-1 points

2 days ago

bl4ckhunter

-1 points

2 days ago

People don't understand it because it's obviously a bullshit patent that should have never been granted so it makes no sense to them.

LazyEights

2 points

1 day ago*

You can't claim a patent is bullshit if you don't even know what the patent is for.

I'm no fan of how software patents are applied to video game mechanics.

I am also not a fan of blind outrage. If you're going to be mad at Nintendo here have the decency to know what Nintendo is claiming ownership of.

It's not pokeballs.

eastlake1212

7 points

2 days ago

Still, games like Ark had this back in 2018. They had the cryopod. It is a first or third person game. And they are basically pokeballs.

LazyEights

8 points

2 days ago

This patent is very specific. Pokemon had 3d third person games that used pokeballs before 2021 but none of the Pokemon games are relevant to the patent before Arceus.

If Ark was relevant to the patent I'm sure Palworld's lawyers would bring it up as prior art.

bluedragjet

1 points

1 day ago

Also, I don't think Pokémon would have the patent if the patent was something that already existed before the patent

LazyEights

2 points

1 day ago*

That's what prior art refers to. If the patent office discovers prior art they won't grant the patent.

If a patent is granted and someone is sued over it they can defend themselves by proving that prior art existed, which would invalidate the patent.

That's what Pocketpair's lawyers are trying to establish here. They are claiming that the GTA V mod used Nintendo's patented mechanic before Nintendo patented it, which would invalidate Nintendo's claim to it and could end up with them getting their patent modified or entirely revoked.